Halo 3 Won't Be Successful

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#801 yo_foo
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[QUOTE="JediMasterSheed"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="coolviper2003"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="121213212132123"]You never had credibility. /owned



That doesn't make sense. Yo_foo's opinion is considered valuable otherwise this thread would of not been so large.

And you can't call someone elses opinion incorrect.



and you can't say your opinion is fact..which is all this guy has been doing ..saying halo3 is going to fail to meet expectations because HE hated halo2 and HE thinks bungie arent going to change anything about halo's gameplay.

but a lot of people hated Halo 2. Halo2sucks.com is an example of this. :'(

People hated Halo 1 too. Just because a handful of people thinks the game sucks, doesn't mean it's a disappointment for all gamers. I don't understand your logic when you say Halo 3 will disappoint, you have no fact and no basis to say that. Yeah, Halo 2 was so much of a disspointment that thousands are playing on Xbox Live as we speak.

Yes but for hardcore fans who enjoyed the tactical elements of the original Halo they were quite disappointed with the dumbed down tactical elements Halo 2. :'( :'(



im a harcore halo fan and i enjoyed both games very well.....dont really get where your going with this lack of tactical elements bit..

Halo 1 was more of a tactical shooter than Halo 2. Halo 2 was dumbed down quite a bit for n00bs to the game. For a general appeal. :'(

halo2 wasn't dumbed down to me..just more fast- paced. i still felt like i had to make tactical choices just to get by a simple game of odd ball or CTF

i feel like h2 was more dm oriented, compared to halo1 which seemed more team oriented.

yeah. Halo was more tactical team gaming. I hear ya! :'(
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#803 Tri-valley
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]What do you define as success?

I can guareentee you the game will not only score high but sell well. Xbox is Halo like Nintendo is Miyamoto.
yo_foo
success is how well the game comes off. And it will disappoint gamers and fans alike. :'(


Nope. It will thrill and entertain gamers and fans alike. But you were close. :')
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#804 coolviper2003
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]What do you define as success?

I can guareentee you the game will not only score high but sell well. Xbox is Halo like Nintendo is Miyamoto.
yo_foo
success is how well the game comes off. And it will disappoint gamers and fans alike. :'(

Again, you assume that it will disappoint gamers, you don't speak for gamers. Unless you know what the markets wants or have a time machine. Please stop, your fanboyism is really starting to show itself with comments like that. Why do you still feel the need to defend your topic when you present us with only YOUR opinion and fanboy comments? Not only that but you completely ignored my other post.

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#805 yo_foo
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[QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="JediMasterSheed"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="JediMasterSheed"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="JediMasterSheed"][QUOTE="yo_foo"]Halo: Combat Evolved. Or rather - Combat DeEvolved. JediMasterSheed
oh roffles. w/ cleverness like that, u should cure AIDS. :roll: resistence isnt better than either halo from a gameplay standpoint. rocky sux. u dont sell near 7 million copies off and not consider it a hit.

once again sales doesn't equal gameplay success. :'(

while its tru h2 didnt play as well as h1 from a mechanical standpoint (hitboxes, autoaim, etc.), its still beats the outta the 'cant decide what it wants to be other than a mess' rfom.

RFOM was original in its right that it combined all the great parts of FPS into a nice little package. And FPS are hard to do on consoles. Bungie got it absolutely right with Halo 1 and because of the higher expectations of games on the Playstation, RFOM fell short in expectation. :'(

no, it the bad parts and mashed them together, or atleast the parts that dont belong together. u can carry more than 3 guns at once, guns are arcadey since they use a static reticle, yet u move like a slow bag of bricks. thats not winning combo.

did you have a read of the review? Obviously not because it clearly states that all the best parts of FPS were used. It all comes under expectations anyhow. :'(

i didn base my opinion off the reviews, i played the game (the mp portion asnyways). my opinions are strictly my own.

exactly. I have played a little bit of it when i was overseas a few weeks ago and i thought it was well reviewed by Gamespot and I understand why it got a lower score than it deserved. :'(
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#806 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]What do you define as success?

I can guareentee you the game will not only score high but sell well. Xbox is Halo like Nintendo is Miyamoto.
yo_foo
success is how well the game comes off. And it will disappoint gamers and fans alike. :'(



So say it gets a 9.5 here. Gets a cumalitve 9X% on Gamerankings. Would you take that as a success. Hypothetically speaking?
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#807 Tri-valley
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[QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]What do you define as success?

I can guareentee you the game will not only score high but sell well. Xbox is Halo like Nintendo is Miyamoto.
Blackbond
success is how well the game comes off. And it will disappoint gamers and fans alike. :'(



So say it gets a 9.5 here. Gets a cumalitve 9X% on Gamerankings. Would you take that as a success. Hypothetically speaking?


Nah, he wouldn't. It would clash with his beliefs. And when a clash happens, reality has to back down. :')
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#808 Davis092
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]What do you define as success?

I can guareentee you the game will not only score high but sell well. Xbox is Halo like Nintendo is Miyamoto.
Tri-valley
success is how well the game comes off. And it will disappoint gamers and fans alike. :'(



So say it gets a 9.5 here. Gets a cumalitve 9X% on Gamerankings. Would you take that as a success. Hypothetically speaking?


Nah, he wouldn't. It would clash with his beliefs. And when a clash happens, reality has to back down. :')

zNo, Gamers would know the truth :O!
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#809 noblekeltic
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Halo: Combat Evolved. Or rather - Combat DeEvolved. That should be the slogan that Microsoft should run with for the latest in its One Hit Wonder trilogy - Halo 3.

Now don't get me wrong. Halo was a good game, although a little over rated, and fulfilled itself as the only official X-Box game worth buying the console for (although it came out on PC! Bad move). It developed tactical shooting and developed a good fanbase for those interested in that kind of thing. It had satisfactory multiplayer content which was good solid fun but also applied the use of tactics like in the missions.

Then enter Halo 2. To increase Halo fanbase, they decided to dumb the game down for those who don't have the time for tactics and made the game just a full on shooter with limited tactics and cruddy weapons. Yes Halo 1s weapons were far superior.

And now Halo 3 which promises to be a rehash of Halo 2s style of gameplay to keep these gamers who don't like to think that much and just shoot (the types of gamers who thought Doom 3 and Prey were Gods Gift to Gaming) and still keep in pretty well the same style as Tribes only without the jetpacks. Plus the same repetitive nature of the game will drastically annoy fans of the original and soon enough people will just ignore Halo and remember it for what the series really is - A One Hit Wonder, much in the same vain as the Baha Men's "Who Let the Dogs Out" and the original Rocky film.

Resistance is the Halo killer for this generation of gaming. No doubt about it.

:'(


yo_foo


You put that together rather nicely, I agree with your statement and then some. Halo 2... the game where you are standing 10 feet away from someone and you hit Z and get dragged by some invisible force to a kill with a sword. Halo 3 will probably get good sales, but probably not better than Halo 2 sales.
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#810 The_Ish
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[QUOTE="yo_foo"]Spartan070 - In response to your post about me being owned: Tribes came out before Halo. Therefore Halo copied off Tribes. :'(



Ice Cream came before Peanut Butter. Therefore Peanut Butter copied off of Ice Cream.


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#811 The_Ish
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[QUOTE="the-very-best"]Btw yo_foo, what did you mean by "successful" exactly?

Successful in sales? In score? In meeting expectations set by gamers?
yo_foo
Successful in meeting expectations set by gamers and gameplay. :'(



Gameplay cannot set expectations.
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#812 The_Ish
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]Well to be honest, I think it probably won't be able to match expectations set by gamers because Halo 2 was just that good. I think Halo 3 will be a great game but I don't see it surpassing the greatness of Halo 2.

I also think it will sell less than Halo 2, and I think it will score less too.

Despite all that it's one of my most anticipated games for this year.
yo_foo
to me Halo 2 was very disappointing. It will score less than Halo 2 and will be unsuccessful in matching gmaers expectations :'(



halo3 can be dissapointing to you and great for tons of other fans of series who enjoyed halo1 and halo2.

Originality sells. A lack of does not. :'(



*cough*Dynasty Warriors*cough*Ace Combat*cough*Coca-Cola*cough*


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#813 CPM_basic
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HAHahahahahaha I bet more people signed up for the Beta than people bought ps3s fanboy!!!!
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#815 kkuanloung
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[QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]Btw yo_foo, what did you mean by "successful" exactly?

Successful in sales? In score? In meeting expectations set by gamers?
The_Ish
Successful in meeting expectations set by gamers and gameplay. :'(



Gameplay cannot set expectations.

ouch... tat should haf put a dent on his head...
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#816 yo_foo
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[QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]Btw yo_foo, what did you mean by "successful" exactly?

Successful in sales? In score? In meeting expectations set by gamers?
kkuanloung
Successful in meeting expectations set by gamers and gameplay. :'(



Gameplay cannot set expectations.

ouch... tat should haf put a dent on his head...

nope actually... :'(
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#817 djzootie
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Halo: Combat Evolved. Or rather - Combat DeEvolved. That should be the slogan that Microsoft should run with for the latest in its One Hit Wonder trilogy - Halo 3.

Now don't get me wrong. Halo was a good game, although a little over rated, and fulfilled itself as the only official X-Box game worth buying the console for (although it came out on PC! Bad move). It developed tactical shooting and developed a good fanbase for those interested in that kind of thing. It had satisfactory multiplayer content which was good solid fun but also applied the use of tactics like in the missions.

Then enter Halo 2. To increase Halo fanbase, they decided to dumb the game down for those who don't have the time for tactics and made the game just a full on shooter with limited tactics and cruddy weapons. Yes Halo 1s weapons were far superior.

And now Halo 3 which promises to be a rehash of Halo 2s style of gameplay to keep these gamers who don't like to think that much and just shoot (the types of gamers who thought Doom 3 and Prey were Gods Gift to Gaming) and still keep in pretty well the same style as Tribes only without the jetpacks. Plus the same repetitive nature of the game will drastically annoy fans of the original and soon enough people will just ignore Halo and remember it for what the series really is - A One Hit Wonder, much in the same vain as the Baha Men's "Who Let the Dogs Out" and the original Rocky film.

Resistance is the Halo killer for this generation of gaming. No doubt about it.

:'(


yo_foo
The original Rocky film wasn't a one hit wonder... Rocky IV Had the highest profit.
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#818 super_mario_128
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COMBAT DEVOLVED.........Oohhhh you are so witty!!!! How long did it take you to come up with that?

This is probably one of the simgle most dumb topics ever posted on this site.....

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You havent been here long I see :| I only read yo_foos threads for a laugh, now it's just turned childish
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#819 blacktorn
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blah blah HALO 3 will be the most important game relaesed this gen
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#820 Vax45
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I don't think H3 is going to flop, the franchise is still kind of fresh. H4 or 5 will be the ones to flop.
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#821 snackdaddy
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Sadly, Halo could suck as bad as your reasoning and it would still sale incredibly well.  There are simply just far too many people in the world that like that game.  I personally didn't like Halo 2 that much, but it's just plain silly to assume that game won't sell...

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I don't think H3 is going to flop, the franchise is still kind of fresh. H4 or 5 will be the ones to flop.Vax45

    Halo 3 is it. It is the end of a planned trilogy. All others games (if any) will only be based in the Halo universe, not in the same storyline.
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#823 Vax45
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[QUOTE="Vax45"]I don't think H3 is going to flop, the franchise is still kind of fresh. H4 or 5 will be the ones to flop.SpruceCaboose

Halo 3 is it. It is the end of a planned trilogy. All others games (if any) will only be based in the Halo universe, not in the same storyline.

O rly Thanks for correcting me. I don't think H3 is going to flop.
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#824 Rob2223
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DeEVOLVED isnt a word.....:|
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#825 tazzydnc
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TC you are a complete moron. Even if halo 3 is just like halo2 with better graphics it'll sell like crazy.
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Halo: Combat Evolved.  Or rather - Combat DeEvolved.  That should be the slogan that Microsoft should run with for the latest in its One Hit Wonder trilogy - Halo 3.

Now don't get me wrong.  Halo was a good game, although a little over rated, and fulfilled itself as the only official X-Box game worth buying the console for (although it came out on PC!  Bad move).  It developed tactical shooting and developed a good fanbase for those interested in that kind of thing.  It had satisfactory multiplayer content which was good solid fun but also applied the use of tactics like in the missions.

Then enter Halo 2.  To increase Halo fanbase, they decided to dumb the game down for those who don't have the time for tactics and made the game just a full on shooter with limited tactics and cruddy weapons.  Yes Halo 1s weapons were far superior.

And now Halo 3 which promises to be a rehash of Halo 2s style of gameplay to keep these gamers who don't like to think that much and just shoot (the types of gamers who thought Doom 3 and Prey were Gods Gift to Gaming) and still keep in pretty well the same style as Tribes only without the jetpacks.  Plus the same repetitive nature of the game will drastically annoy fans of the original and soon enough people will just ignore Halo and remember it for what the series really is - A One Hit Wonder, much in the same vain as the Baha Men's "Who Let the Dogs Out" and the original Rocky film. 

Resistance is the Halo killer for this generation of gaming.  No doubt about it.

:'(


 yo_foo

translated:  "the ps3 has nothing to compare with halo3 so i'll create a b.s. topic"...;)

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#827 the1stmoonfly
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ROFLMAO, ye, good one.

I bet nobody buys it at all, seriously come on, you dont have to like it, but saying that is just denial.

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#828 JohnWinger
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Halo 3 will sell more than 2 Million consoles once its released.

I guarantee it.

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on the first day alone.
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#830 Fusible
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You can't be serious on the Resistance part are you, now that is laughable. I'm sure the majority of people who read that really started to laugh at you. Resistance was good but not a Halo killer. There's far better games on 360 in that genre compared to Resistance. They've been in development for almost three years, thats why they said Halo will be out when it's ready. Meaning they have to make the mother of all mother's. And your whole rant just didn't make sense at all.:roll:
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#831 illwillpress88
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even if every reveiw said it sucked it would still be a monster selller
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#832 iNtRePiD8p
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Halo 3 could be an empty box and it would still be a million plus seller.
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#833 dracolich666
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Halo 3 will sell more than 2 Million consoles once its released.

I guarantee it.

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gears sold 3 in 10 weeks, it will sell prob 4-5 in 10 weeks. Halo 3 will be awsome!
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#834 HarryCrackage
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Halo 3 has about as much chance of being unsuccessful as I do of winning the Nobel Peace Prize.

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#835 zsc4
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Halo 3 could be an empty box and it would still be a million plus seller.iNtRePiD8p
Yeah and thats the honest truth...
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#836 Tiefster
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Halo 3 will sell but the game itself will be meh.  Remember this also, Halo 2 sold 6.5 million copies, which means not every 360 gamer will buy Halo 3.
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Halo 3 will sell but the game itself will be meh. Remember this also, Halo 2 sold 6.5 million copies, which means not every 360 gamer will buy Halo 3.Tiefster
Thanks for reaching into the future and telling us the outcome.
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#838 mark_c_128
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halo 3 will sell amazingly well, better than any PS3 game i think
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#839 Timmy123456789
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Yes Halo 3 the game itself will not be successful here's why. The combat and sound effects are the same for all Halo games and it gets old. People are only buying it because it has the name like when you buy a computer its Alienware. Halo is over rated and people don't buy it to support sequels good games sound only be made once or twice not 3 times excluding FF series, since role play games it doesn't matter. UT3 is better then Halo and was announced for Xbox 360 last week and of course was planned long ago for PC and PS3. Halo 3 vechiles are the same like Halo 2 and Halo ones. Also Gears of War is over rated, Microsoft bribes gamespot to over rate Xbox 360's First person shooters and other companies. Anyway I think Halo multiplayer is good for the first couple of days then it gets lame play other games like Resistance, Call of Duty, Unreal tornament they hold their grounds more so then halo. Beware of Xbox 360's over rated First Person shooters made by microsoft.
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#840 chief_snitch
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How did this get to 42 pages? someone tell me please? Sorry if I've revived this monster but the discussion isn't exactly over yet! Yo_foo - when we talk about success we talk about how well it sells. When we talk about gameplay we don't say success we say an achievement. Yo_Foo are yo trying to say that Halo 3 wont achieve the great gameplay of the previous titles or cult status or it wont achieve success in sales figures? This thread can't die because the discussion is only half finished!
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#841 Spartan070
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200+ replies easily. D0wnfall1
:lol:, yeah...
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#842 yo_foo
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[QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]Btw yo_foo, what did you mean by "successful" exactly?

Successful in sales? In score? In meeting expectations set by gamers?
The_Ish
Successful in meeting expectations set by gamers and gameplay. :'(



Gameplay cannot set expectations.

what are you on about? That's not what I said... I said the EXPECTATIONS SET BY GAMERS for the gameplay. :'(
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#843 Spartan070
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TC =

 

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#844 yo_foo
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blah blah HALO 3 will be the most important game relaesed this genblacktorn
oh because it LOOKS good? Please. They said its the same gameplay used last gen. How is that new? :'(
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#845 beerm_basic
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ok ive caved in and posted on this thread i dont know what its about as i dont read yo_foos posts but why have you people let this grow to over 800+ posts just ignore him he has a very poor view on everything.  Hes a legend for the wrong reasons and should be outright banned
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#846 Oil_Tanker
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Yes Halo 3 the game itself will not be successful here's why. The combat and sound effects are the same for all Halo games and it gets old. People are only buying it because it has the name like when you buy a computer its Alienware. Halo is over rated and people don't buy it to support sequels good games sound only be made once or twice not 3 times excluding FF series, since role play games it doesn't matter. UT3 is better then Halo and was announced for Xbox 360 last week and of course was planned long ago for PC and PS3. Halo 3 vechiles are the same like Halo 2 and Halo ones. Also Gears of War is over rated, Microsoft bribes gamespot to over rate Xbox 360's First person shooters and other companies. Anyway I think Halo multiplayer is good for the first couple of days then it gets lame play other games like Resistance, Call of Duty, Unreal tornament they hold their grounds more so then halo. Beware of Xbox 360's over rated First Person shooters made by microsoft.Timmy123456789


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#847 yo_foo
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I don't think H3 is going to flop, the franchise is still kind of fresh. H4 or 5 will be the ones to flop.Vax45
there wont be a Halo 4 or 5 I don't think. They'll disappoint too many gamers with this one. :'(
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#848 klabut
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This thread is still alive? Why would anyone bump this yo_foo has already been owned enough.
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#849 killtactics
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[QUOTE="blacktorn"]blah blah HALO 3 will be the most important game relaesed this genyo_foo
oh because it LOOKS good? Please. They said its the same gameplay used last gen. How is that new? :'(

Bungie said that?? link..
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#850 rhaigun
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[QUOTE="Timmy123456789"]Yes Halo 3 the game itself will not be successful here's why. The combat and sound effects are the same for all Halo games and it gets old. People are only buying it because it has the name like when you buy a computer its Alienware. Halo is over rated and people don't buy it to support sequels good games sound only be made once or twice not 3 times excluding FF series, since role play games it doesn't matter. UT3 is better then Halo and was announced for Xbox 360 last week and of course was planned long ago for PC and PS3. Halo 3 vechiles are the same like Halo 2 and Halo ones. Also Gears of War is over rated, Microsoft bribes gamespot to over rate Xbox 360's First person shooters and other companies. Anyway I think Halo multiplayer is good for the first couple of days then it gets lame play other games like Resistance, Call of Duty, Unreal tornament they hold their grounds more so then halo. Beware of Xbox 360's over rated First Person shooters made by microsoft.Oil_Tanker


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Teh conspiracy!