@SecretPolice: I dunno, I just think its not something in everyone's wheelhouse, especially if its just a straight sim. I think its safe to say any game were you are driving in a race would be considered racing rather than sports (thats probs for the fifa mlb nfl nhl crowd)
This is the only thing I could find on it. Its US sales (which probably is a boost to racing) in 2015 and shows racing with a little over 4% market share. I mean Strategy is considered niche right? I just dont think racing is as present as it was back in the old days
@SecretPolice said:
@aigis:
Eh, I'd need to know more about the graph and the criteria and where it came from to come up with those results. Seems off to me I mean Racing could and is considered a sport as well. :P
Source:
Genre breakdown of video game sales in the United States in 2015 (Statista)
May not be everyone bees knees but unlike Forza Motorsports, Horizon is very much pick up & play for even the most casual and have a blast. Just ask around and or look at some comments of those saying they're not racing fans but lovin FH3. Also, racing is a sport, no two ways about it.
For something most people do in real life and can easily relate to and pick up the VG controls easily, turn right, left, gas & brake, drive a auto, the genre is popular with core and casual alike.
Yes, because Halo 5 has only sold 5M copies, the Fortune 25, $63B, software giant is finished and should close it's doors immediately to make way for the $17B electronics company to take over the world. In other news, the iPhone 7 sales are demonstrably slower than the 6S, so Apple will stop doing business as well.
@SecretPolice: Not debating if racing is a sport, but there are two genres, racing and sports. Nor am I saying its not easy to pick up and play, I just dont think its very sought after anymore. If you are casual, you are probably playing the cods and battlefields
@StrongBlackVine: you're doing it again talking about genres you don't know about. Racing is a well established genre with a base that spends money. There's plenty of people that only play racing games and there's a reason there's a market for $800 racing wheels.
@quadknight Well if you look at it from the perspective of playing meta more than games sure. You routinely say things like, 'I don't play low scoring games', but you have NMS on your playing now list. A game with a low score and high sales, but known to be a bad game, so we can big lebowski your opinion for the most part as fanboy logic.
No both Halo and Gears delivered for me. Played Gears nonstop this weekend, from a value perspective the game has been worth the price of admission for this weekend alone. Communities seems thriving and well. A few websites here and there giving 7-8 instead of 8-9 will not change a single thing in the grand scheme of things, its the players and the community reception that matters the most, and how the game plays.
@kvally: I would be very surprised if Uncharted 4 has not already surpassed Halo 5. If it hasn't it definitely will be the end of the holiday season since it is bundled heavily now.
Think about this. Halo 5 was at 5 million sales at the beginning of 2016 so two months after release. Uncharted 4 sold 2.5 million the first week. Regardless Xbox is still a Halo, Gears, Forza box and any new IP Microsoft tries flops. That is really nothing to be proud of. I don't think Microsoft is Nintendo where the same IPs can carry them indefinitely. The scores keep getting lower and so do the sales. Not low enough to be concerned, but Gears and Halo are long past their primes.
@MonsieurX: The PS4 games are rated higher and the majority thinks they are better. Bloodborne and Uncharted 4 are classics. Halo 5 isn't and Forza is a racing game...
@MonsieurX: The PS4 games are rated higher and the majority thinks they are better. Bloodborne and Uncharted 4 are classics. Halo 5 isn't and Forza is a racing game...
He said imo
Congrats! And what does it change that Forza is a racing game?The PS4 doesn't have any so it can't count?
@MonsieurX: It counts. It's just lower caliber genre IMO. I have never bought a racing game nth though. Just doesn't appeal to me the same way so many on here don't like JRPGs.
@MonsieurX: It counts. It's just lower caliber genre IMO. I have never bought a racing game nth though. Just doesn't appeal to me the same way so many on here don't like JRPGs.
@StrongBlackVine: you should take a stroll through the Forza forums and the Forza Reddit and see how many people like racing games. i don't really understand why you are always talking about them since you have admitted to never even buying or playing them so your opinion on the genre is kinda moot.
Racing is an established genre with a big fanbase. Not as big as fps no, but it's big. And yes Forza does sell Xboxes. I know plenty of people that bought Xboxes just to play Forza.
Yes. If all of Sony's so called "killer aps" flopped, it will be deemed as the end of an era.
The idiots in collective outrage at this thread are the same idiots who were screaming that PS4 had no games and we should wait for MS's "bombs". Yeah, they were bombs alright. Massive flops
MS needs to re-think their HaloGearsForza formula. Its not 2008 anymore
The O.G Xbox was so much more exciting with games like Ninja Gaiden, DOA etc as exclusives. Lems, if you cant even ADMIT that things arent going so great, that's your problem. You encourage MS to continue to shaft you
Sony was FORCED to get better by listening to gamers. Is Microsoft supposed to listen to it's delusional base ?
So many morons in this thread. MS keeping releasing Gears and Halo great games that people like. Playstation gamers have no games, reason why they talk so much and comment about games they never played.
So many morons in this thread. MS keeping releasing Gears and Halo great games that people like. Playstation gamers have no games, reason why they talk so much and comment about games they never played.
@FLOPPAGE_50: A series that has averaged AAA will be forgotten? OK buddy
It's already forgotten.
No one talks about it anymore, streams for it are low/non existant.
all my friends who bought a PS4, virtually no one plays it.
Franchise is stale, and will be fogotten.
Last of Us is miles better in quality.
Do you really believe what you're saying? I mean if you didn't like it, that's fine. But you really think people have already forgotten about it? Really?
@sailor232: I think it's probably that you are playing against people much better than u and not that you suck. Some tips tho:
If you really are that bad, get decent with the Assault Rifle first before focusing on pistol. Aim towards the body with it until their shields are down and then aim towards the head.
Whenever you come across a plasma rifle, brute plasma, smg, pick them up and try to sneak up on people with them, theyre super strong up close.
Switch to bumper jumper layout to keep your aim more precise when you jump
The combo to traverse the most amount of distance is: while running press boost button then slide immediately and then jump. The distance is nuts.
Use your boost to try and confuse enemies into missing when they shoot at you. For example when youre in a straight up duel, jump to the side and when youre mid air, boost in the opposite direction, that will cause most to miss at least 1 shot on you.
Other than that, keep practicing. Halo 5 is one of the console shooters that takes more skill.
@Snowywonders: Cheers for the tips, I guess it doesn't help that my ping is constantly over 230, I live in New Zealand so playing even against Australians the ping is huge.
None of those are bad scores, although the 6.5 user score on meta is very disheartening for Halo 5. I've played it and it's a decent shoot em up but it lacks the greatness of Halo 1 and 2 and the advancement in scale and options of 3.
GOW 4 is pretty much identical on meta, in both critics and users. I haven't played it yet but I guess its fair to say neither is great. Good certainly.
The O.G Xbox was so much more exciting with games like Ninja Gaiden, DOA etc as exclusives. Lems, if you cant even ADMIT that things arent going so great, that's your problem. You encourage MS to continue to shaft you
Sony was FORCED to get better by listening to gamers. Is Microsoft supposed to listen to it's delusional base ?
I am sure the lems will admit that things aren't going so great if cows admit that the PSbore isn't going so great nor are the flop games. As long as you don't encourage Sony to shaft you over and over.
@Snowywonders: Cheers for the tips, I guess it doesn't help that my ping is constantly over 230, I live in New Zealand so playing even against Australians the ping is huge.
Ping over 230? I'd rather quit video games, and just go outside to play with a stick.
@cainetao11: The fact is it went from a AAA franchise to a AA franchise. Let that sink in.
You do realize that these stupid "AAA" and "AA" franchise monikers only exist on this stupid ass forum right? That has no bearing on reality as it actually stands or the outside world at large...
Why would anybody care, let alone allow something as dumb as that "sink in"...
"Oh no guys, this fucking random dead forum says!"
Damn the cows are salty these days. The best thing they have to do is come here on GS and cry about Xbox games.... Because that's all they can do.
It's not like they're playing games on they're PS4 or anything. Everyone has already completed UC4, and there is nothing else to do beyond that.
We all know they're not playing NMS, like they all hoped they were.
Nope... There all here. Crying about Xbox games, while Lems are playing FH3, and Gears. I would say that the future looks bright for them, but it doesn't.
@dynamitecop: Its a franchise that has scored lower not only on Gamespot but gaming sights as a whole. And yes gamers do care about that. It doesn't mean they are not good franchises but they no longer carry the critical claim they use to and its a good chance they may not sell as well as they use too. The point is MS meeds to gamble on some new IPS.
Halo and Gears are both low 80s franchises now. Don't know how long a niche racing series can prop up Xbox first party. They need a NEW hit IP badly. Even Nintendo had one recently with Splatoon. Halo, Gears, Forza is a thing whether people deny or not. Yes they do release new IP s, but when is that last time a new game by Xbox did well enough to get a sequel. I guessed Ori, but I'm really talking AAA retail games here.
I think that is why Phil is so salty about Recore. He is desperate for new hit.
Its not just a MS problem, all companies are struggling to produce a worthwhile new IP this gen. We haven't seen anything close to Uncharted, Gears, Mass Effect, Bioshock. You could technically count Bloodborne but it is still a Souls game through and through. Quantum Break and Recore failed but so did The Order, Driveclub and No Man's Sky. Santa Monica had a new big budget IP in development that they had to cancel because it was a complete mess and have basically proven themselves incapable of making anything other than God of War.
The one big luxury Sony has is Naughty Dog. The rest of their first party really hasn't been that good at all in recent years.
At least SONY is trying , everyone else aint. And every single generation something new AAA pops up on Playstation let alone all other AAs ... Besides PS4 already has one , Bloodborne that is , while more potentially AAA exclusive games coming.
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