Halo Reach: Flop Incoming?

If Halo 2 managed to get a 9.4 and Halo 3 managed to get a 9.5, then there is no way it is getting under a 9.0.

It won't get AAAAE, what halo fans say. But it will be solid and I will enjoy it greatly.

[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

Since when has a Halo game flopped?

Giancar

I forgot about halo wars:P

Depending on the reviewer i think it has a decent chance of flopping.

It would also make fora hilarious week of system wars watching Lems damage control, and Cows rub it in.

Personally, I think it's looks like utter crap. but we shall see. Sadly I'll have to buy it either way, lest i be labeled "not cool"

Gamespot will probably have to be seriously Biased to give this game anything lower than a 9.

We kinda know how the game plays from the Beta (Even that's improved!)

It has the largest feature set of any console shoGoter, and has more features than some PC shooters (the ones which cannot be modded, that is).

We know that Bungie is making more of a "charater driven story", and we know that they helped ND in the making of Uncharted 2. If Bungie helped ND, they must have got something back, right? And I think that's how to make more cinematic experiences.

Overall, Awesome gameplay, Incredible Features, and a Cinematic campaign.

Can't wait until September 14th.

By flop incoming, I meant critically on gamespot. I mean, Gamespot choose a pro-Sony multiplat (Dead Space 2) over Halo Reach as best Xbox 360 title in E3 Awards...Thats kinda sad and I think its a sign that gamespot isn't impressed by the game.

argetlam00

nothing new from sonyspot.

Gamespot will probably have to be seriously Biased to give this game anything lower than a 9.

We kinda know how the game plays from the Beta (Even that's improved!)

It has the largest feature set of any console shoGoter, and has more features than some PC shooters (the ones which cannot be modded, that is).

We know that Bungie is making more of a "charater driven story", and we know that they helped ND in the making of Uncharted 2. If Bungie helped ND, they must have got something back, right? And I think that's how to make more cinematic experiences.

Overall, Awesome gameplay, Incredible Features, and a Cinematic campaign.

Can't wait until September 14th.

siddhu33

By flop incoming, I meant critically on gamespot. I mean, Gamespot choose a pro-Sony multiplat (Dead Space 2) over Halo Reach as best Xbox 360 title in E3 Awards...Thats kinda sad and I think its a sign that gamespot isn't impressed by the game.

argetlam00

i woudnt put Halo:Reach and flop in the same sentence :) hehe

Honestly from the information & impressions taken from the Beta, Reach looks like it will be another solid title in the Halo series... it surely looks like another AAA title..

[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

Gamespot will probably have to be seriously Biased to give this game anything lower than a 9.

We kinda know how the game plays from the Beta (Even that's improved!)

It has the largest feature set of any console shoGoter, and has more features than some PC shooters (the ones which cannot be modded, that is).

We know that Bungie is making more of a "charater driven story", and we know that they helped ND in the making of Uncharted 2. If Bungie helped ND, they must have got something back, right? And I think that's how to make more cinematic experiences.

Overall, Awesome gameplay, Incredible Features, and a Cinematic campaign.

Can't wait until September 14th.

jg4xchamp

Well, You already said it. It plays better than Halo 3. and Halo 3:ODST (whichwas released in2009)Bungie have been really working on making these features work really well, using the beta, and other tests and tools... Of course, there is a personal preference in the Gamespot reviewer, but I have faith, that unless Bungie really cock-up, then Reach will "Reach" the higher levels of the scoring system.

Im hyping Reach to be the best halo made so far. Please not im not really a fan of the series, it just looks like they are taking everything that was awesome about the first 4 and put them all togetherIantheone

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="siddhu33"]

Gamespot will probably have to be seriously Biased to give this game anything lower than a 9.

We kinda know how the game plays from the Beta (Even that's improved!)

It has the largest feature set of any console shoGoter, and has more features than some PC shooters (the ones which cannot be modded, that is).

We know that Bungie is making more of a "charater driven story", and we know that they helped ND in the making of Uncharted 2. If Bungie helped ND, they must have got something back, right? And I think that's how to make more cinematic experiences.

Overall, Awesome gameplay, Incredible Features, and a Cinematic campaign.

Can't wait until September 14th.

siddhu33

Well, You already said it. It plays better than Halo 3. and Halo 3:ODST (whichwas released in2009)Bungie have been really working on making these features work really well, using the beta, and other tests and tools... Of course, there is a personal preference in the Gamespot reviewer, but I have faith, that unless Bungie really cock-up, then Reach will "Reach" the higher levels of the scoring system.

[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] wait what would make them bias to say it's not worthy of the 9.0? Because of feature set? and the fact that it plays better than Halo 3? That's fine and all but to be honest Halo 3 was 2007. This is 2010. It wouldn't make gamespot bias if they aren't impressed by Halo Reaach enough for a 9.0. All those features don't mean anything if the game itself doesn't take advantage of em by actually playing at an excellent level. jg4xchamp

Well, You already said it. It plays better than Halo 3. and Halo 3:ODST (whichwas released in2009)Bungie have been really working on making these features work really well, using the beta, and other tests and tools... Of course, there is a personal preference in the Gamespot reviewer, but I have faith, that unless Bungie really cock-up, then Reach will "Reach" the higher levels of the scoring system.

Hey, that's just how I feel.

Yeah, Halo could flop, like I said, if Bungie cocked-up, or if the reviewer just doesn't like the game.

:question:

I fail to see the relation between Dead Space being more impressive in the E3 and the possibility of Reach flopping.

IronBass

I cant see it flopping! It´s the last Bungie´s Halo game so they are trying to make it `perfect`.

Gameplay looks great as allways, graphics are great this time arround and it will have a massive amount of content.

I think it´s an AAA guaranteed

By flop incoming, I meant critically on gamespot. I mean, Gamespot choose a pro-Sony multiplat (Dead Space 2) over Halo Reach as best Xbox 360 title in E3 Awards...Thats kinda sad and I think its a sign that gamespot isn't impressed by the game.

argetlam00

Anyway, I don't see Halo Reach flopping, seeing as Halo 3 managed a 9.5 (lolwut?), and ODST was 9.0, Reach can be nothing less than 9.0.

[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

Since when has a Halo game flopped?

Giancar

Im a Halo fant and i have to agree with that! ODST is simply not AAA quality!!!

Halo Reach is the Modern Warfare 2 of this Year.

LegatoSkyheart

:question:

I fail to see the relation between Dead Space being more impressive in the E3 and the possibility of Reach flopping.

IronBass

Its being hyped AAA so i doubt it. Although it has no chance at AAAA. It has more chance of scoring 1.0 than a 10.

OSDT got AAA you dont have to worry about Reach flopping, but dont expect Gamespot to give something that's not deserving unwarrented praise when it's time to give out awards. Bungie obviously isn't doing anything with Reach that warrents creditials of other games that are being released now. What's in the Dead space sequel isobviously more ambitous and or impressive than what their seeing in the Halo Reach sequel so they gave Dead space the award, noting more.

Halo Reach might be the better game in the end maybe not, but GS isn't responsible for patting fanboys on the back and giving out awards to games that they choose to hype as the best thing ever.

I'm sure Reach will at least be 9.0. Giving OSDT AAA and not giving Reach AAA would be luz whothy considering Reach isclearly the better game between those two titles--dosen't mean it's better than everything else comming out on the system.

Its being hyped AAA so i doubt it. Although it has no chance at AAAA. It has more chance of scoring 1.0 than a 10.

Oonga

nah E3 is all about "best of show" regardless of category

what "best of show" means is making the biggest impression at E3, which Dead Space 2 did really well

Reach wasn't the only game we already knew about that didn't make that big of a splash - Metroid: Other M, Gears of War 3, Crysis 2 for example

i don't think any of those games would receive a low critic rating just because their E3 showing didn't top the likes of Kirby's Epic Yarn or Gran Turismo 5 or Rage

I haven't seen anything impressive of Reach either tbh, I'm sure it'll be a fun Halo game, but who honestly is still wowed by Halo gameplay? It's soo slow :?

Hmm, Halo Wars did get mugged by GS so ya just may have something here. If GS mugs Reach.. Cowspot confirmed. :P

[QUOTE="Oonga"]

Its being hyped AAA so i doubt it. Although it has no chance at AAAA. It has more chance of scoring 1.0 than a 10.

vashkey

I should have said it has 0% chance at both a 1.0 and 10.

an 8.5 would be hillarious buit as some said with ODST scoring 9.0 its impossible for Reach to score any less.

[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

Since when has a Halo game flopped?

PAL360

Im a Halo fant and i have to agree with that! ODST is simply not AAA quality!!!

IF ODST got a 9 here, and was universally regarded as a high A low AA game, Reach will get AAA too off name alone just like ODST.

This would be great actually. I hope the game scores a 7 at this site and then the MCD can call it a "flop" while it goes on to sell 10 million copies.

This would be great actually. I hope the game scores a 7 at this site and then the MCD can call it a "flop" while it goes on to sell 10 million copies.

rp108

Nothing against Reach but when has sales ever been an indication of quality?

Halo Reach is the Modern Warfare 2 of this Year.

[QUOTE="walkingdream"][QUOTE="Birdy09"]Why dont you think logically about this for a second. Halo 3, Halo 3.5, Halo 4(Reach) ... its more Halo, so why should it get the spotlight? for being a graphically updated games with some new features that arnt exactly new?Birdy09

The Halo Reach Beta was completely different to Halo 3... It has evolved quite a bit. The core gameplay is the same, but why fix something that not only isn't broken, but is almost perfect in terms of console shooters. It has plenty of new features that haven't been present in a past Halo game. And you call it a shooter, as if that is meant to be a derogatory term. The reason most shooters are looked down upon is because the market is overpopulated with average, typical titles. Halo is at the precipice of console shooters however. It stands out.

Edit: And perhaps Halo Reach didn't win because we have seen & played the beta. We know much of what to expect. If all the details had been kept secret for E3 instead of released throughout the year, it would have been amazing. Instead of being concerned for gaming website award through scripted trailers & demos, they released the beta to the public & let us see first hand just how damn good it is.

[QUOTE="rp108"]

This would be great actually. I hope the game scores a 7 at this site and then the MCD can call it a "flop" while it goes on to sell 10 million copies.

Oonga

Nothing against Reach but when has sales ever been an indication of quality?

When are sales not an indication of quality? Are gamers OPINIONS an indication of quality? Sales whether people around here like them or not are indeed an indication of quality. This goes for any industry. Is the gaming industry excluded from this?

Edit:

By the way, this irrational thought process of sales not indicating quality and "flops" have been created by "cows" on these forums as a defense mechanism. To say sales doesn't indicate quality and calling a game that scored an 8.5 and sold a million copies a flop is just stupid, plain and simple.

If it gets 8.5'd it'd be pretty funny, but I don't see it getting anything below a 9.

Why dont you think logically about this for a second. Halo 3, Halo 3.5, Halo 4(Reach) ... its more Halo, so why should it get the spotlight? for being a graphically updated games with some new features that arnt exactly new?Birdy09

Also what? Reach isn't Halo 3.75 now? :lol: