Halo Reach: Flop Incoming?

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#201 WTA2k5
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[QUOTE="WTA2k5"]

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

Gears 3 isn't this year. Fable I wasn't expecting to be special.

argetlam00

Fable III certainly is, and besides what would that have to do with it? The awards are given out based on what was seen at E3 and Gears of War 3 (the one title that's not slated for this year) was at E3.

Gears has lots of room to improve. Halo on the other hand does not. I would have expected it to shine this E3.

By that logic so does Dead Space 2, which also come out next year.
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#202 xscrapzx
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[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="WTA2k5"]

Fable III certainly is, and besides what would that have to do with it? The awards are given out based on what was seen at E3 and Gears of War 3 (the one title that's not slated for this year) was at E3.

He is just grasping for straws at the moment, let him believe that it will flop so he can feel right.

I dont want it to flop, nor do I believe it actually will. I'm simply putting forth the possibility as a result of its rather lackluster E3 performance close to release date to incite conversation. Sorry that causes heartbreak for you.

I dont see how it was lackluster. If you watched E3 it got a great reception when the demo ended. Just because it wasn't awarded something doesn't mean jack. I mean so that goes for every other game that was shown at E3, I mean really you could do that for every single one.
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#203 bryn8150
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dream on.

its HALO.

Try again T.C

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#204 Santesyu
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can't see this game getting anywhere in the 7s or 8s... its gonna make atleast a 9 just because its halo.. I bet its gonna get reviewed by someone who actually enjoyed it aswell...

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#205 RoOodriGowW
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Nah I don't think so.It's halo after all.

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#206 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Yeah sure they can. Just note that I think your opinion of ODST is deluded and frankly a joke that I can't seem to grasp at all. Especially when arguments like "firefight=60 dollars=9.0 start coming out. But like I said, lets get back on topic.

argetlam00

So let me iron this out here. You don't see how it's possible for it to achieve AAA, yet many sites gave it that honor. So, technically, it is possible. Why would it? That's a question of: did you read the reviews? Since, you know, that's what the reviews outline, and the score reflects the language within the review itself (Or atleast it's supposed too). You retort to that saying these reviewers were paid off by Microsoft -- that's THAT the only reasonable explanation. And you're saying my opinion, my views are a "joke"?

Did I just enter the Twilight Zone? You can't, in any reasonable shape or form, showcase or prove your initial assertion. It's frankly impossible, and not to mention inherently silly to even bring that up! I mean, surely, the reasons for it achieving AAA are explained IN THE REVIEW itself, and that the only possible explanation for the score is outlined IN THE REVIEW itself.

But a las, the trend is clear -- up till the release of the next Halo game, the flop machine starts up. Happened with Halo 3, and Halo 3: ODST. And it's happening with Reach. While it's not gauranteed the next Bungie game will be AAA -- much like any other game -- it is guaranteed that I'll be seeing a lot tears come September.

:twisted: :P

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#207 Tactis
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Dude Halo 3 ODST got a 9.0, let's get real.
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#208 Riverwolf007
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maybe, they cant all get good scores, at some point they won't be able to improve it enough to make critics happy and if it's not this time you can bet that eventually it will happen and it will get a horrible score like maybe an 8.5 or *GASP* an 8.

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#209 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="WTA2k5"]

Fable III certainly is, and besides what would that have to do with it? The awards are given out based on what was seen at E3 and Gears of War 3 (the one title that's not slated for this year) was at E3.

argetlam00

He is just grasping for straws at the moment, let him believe that it will flop so he can feel right.

I dont want it to flop, nor do I believe it actually will. I'm simply putting forth the possibility as a result of its rather lackluster E3 performance close to release date to incite conversation. Sorry that causes heartbreak for you.

lackluster? It ws nominated. It just didn't win. I wouldn't call that lackluster. It clearly had a good enough showing that its on gamespots radar.
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#210 donalbane
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This is the last Halo by Bungie, there is no way it will flop. I am not the biggest Halo fan either, but it looks to be the best one yet to me. I am talking about campaign-wise especially. I know I am in the minority on this one, but the campaign is the main reason I have interest in it.

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I also enjoy the campaign more than the multiplayer. Can't wait... daddy's goin' stealthy!
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#211 scorch-62
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Im hyping Reach to be the best halo made so far. Please not im not really a fan of the series, it just looks like they are taking everything that was awesome about the first 4 and put them all togetherIantheone
After playing the Reach beta, I want to agree.
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#212 lawlessx
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Im sure cows would love to see a halo game made by bungie get lower than a 9;shame the odds of that happening aren't too good.
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#213 Pug-Nasty
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I don't think it'll flop score wise, but I think graphically people will be disappointed with it considering how much some people have been hyping the visuals.

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#214 Ravensmash
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I don't think it'll flop score wise, but I think graphically people will be disappointed with it considering how much some people have been hyping the visuals.

Pug-Nasty
Very few people have been seriously hyping the graphics, there is impressive stuff in Halo tech wise though - always has. The lighting in Halo 3 still looks fantastic three years on.
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#215 Deathtransit
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Dude Halo 3 ODST got a 9.0, let's get real.Tactis
'Nuff said!
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#216 folino857
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Reach will not flop because of the word HALO in its title...halo fans will buy any game with the word halo...including me

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#217 Arbiterisl33t69
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Reach will not flop because of the word HALO in its title...halo fans will buy any game with the word halo...including me

folino857
I'm not so sure about future Halo installments not made by Bungie, though..
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#218 HavocV3
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Reach will not flop because of the word HALO in its title...halo fans will buy any game with the word halo...including me

folino857

that rule didn't get Halo Wars a free pass:?

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#219 deactivated-59d151f079814
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.. The game seems to be taking the largest single leap in gameplay mechanics then really other Halo game.. Bungie seems to be working extremely hard on this, I doubt it will rate poorly..
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#221 Ninja-Hippo
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I did find the Dead Space 2 award strange, but i wasn't there. :P I doubt Halo Reach will flop. I imagine it's simply not on the best of E3 at Gamespot because it's Halo. We all know what to expect. Even if it's amazing, that's just par of the course for Halo. It's nothing to write home about that a Halo game is good.
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#222 Oonga
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Reach will not flop because of the word HALO in its title...halo fans will buy any game with the word halo...including me

folino857

I love when people say things like this to titles such as Halo, Mario and Zelda. Its like they believe they're crap games that will only score well based on brand.

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#223 kakashi6666
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r u mad no halo game will ever flop

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#224 oldkingallant
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Gamespot wouldn't dare. They refused to give Halo 3: ODST anything below AAA, I doubt with Reach, a full blown sequel that looks better than the past games in the series, that it'll flop.

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#225 Pug-Nasty
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[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

I don't think it'll flop score wise, but I think graphically people will be disappointed with it considering how much some people have been hyping the visuals.

Ravensmash

Very few people have been seriously hyping the graphics, there is impressive stuff in Halo tech wise though - always has. The lighting in Halo 3 still looks fantastic three years on.

Maybe they stopped after the beta or something, but they were hyping a lot before.

It seemed to be the second most hyped thing about the game, right behind the pistol.

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#226 urdead18
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r u mad no halo game will ever flop

kakashi6666

Hi there.

Also, full words next time please.

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#227 Twin-Blade
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I can't remember seeing so much damage control from cows (or any fanboy for that matter) towards any title months out from release like this before. Every Halo title produced by Bungie has been a deserving AAA title, ODST included. I'd go as far to say ODST is my favourite campaign of any of the Halo titles (though it may be because I've played the others to death). Firefight was a blast, especially if you have friends, & it was coupled with the entire Halo 3 multiplayer, map packs included.

ODST:

Gamespot: 9

IGN: 9

Game Informer: 9.25

I'd guess most the lesser known review sites bought into the 'lol expansion' rumours. ODST, without the multiplayer disk, is still larger than most games these days. Halo Reach looks to improve in every aspect. It will most likely score, & be deserving of, an AAA rating, based off of it's almost perfect gameplay, not off the name. The name is only regarded so highly because everything with it, developed by Bungie, is gold. As I said earlier, had Bungie kept all the details for E3 & not released the Beta yet, it would have blown the socks off everything there. Instead, Bungie gave us the beta, hyping us from our first hand experience with it, so we know it's good, instead of scripted demos & trailers to trick us into buying it.

To say Halo is trash is absolutely stupid. You don't like it (or are jealous because it isn't on your console), that doesn't mean it isn't an amazing game. I don't like Half Life 2 or MGS series near as much as others, but I know they are deserving of the praise they get.

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#228 rickatick
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Impossible, literally.
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#229 MrFamBoyLOL
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Killzone 3 has a more chances of Flopping then Halo series.