Halo Reach vs KZ2 comparison

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[QUOTE="2mrw"] lol, SM is evil, how could say hide the bad textures from us???? did you see the trailer btw??? i am just asking not proving anything.toast_burner

The kid is dilerious if he can spot and crappy textures in GOW 3. I saw a screen cap of when Kratos was punching downward.. the blur and the statue on the right made it look CGI.

That was a bad cap, GOW 3 looks great.. I am just point out flaws, instead of mindlessly bashing. Halo:reach will be a technical marvel. Though, even I don't know why halo:reach is in this arguement, Alan wake would make a much better case.

Killzone 2 scored the same as an "expansion".

It didn't score as high as Halo 3.

And like Halo 3, Reach will once again gain 9.5 status.

But hey, if a lesser product is what you're about, then go right ahead.

Killzone 2 is good, but still a lesser and less desirable product.

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

So true

Don't forget to add more motion blurs to hide the embarrassing textures :lol:

MC3887

Really isn't even the BFBC;2 sp footage looks as good. People have to remember than reach is only is Alpha, can only get better from here.

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[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

The kid is dilerious if he can spot and crappy textures in GOW 3. I saw a screen cap of when Kratos was punching downward.. the blur and the statue on the right made it look CGI.

That was a bad cap, GOW 3 looks great.. I am just point out flaws, instead of mindlessly bashing. Halo:reach will be a technical marvel. Though, even I don't know why halo:reach is in this arguement, Alan wake would make a much better case.

Killzone 2 scored the same as an "expansion".

It didn't score as high as Halo 3.

And like Halo 3, Reach will once again gain 9.5 status.

But hey, if a lesser product is what you're about, then go right ahead.

Killzone 2 is good, but still a lesser and less desirable product.

BioShockOwnz

I love watching lembots setting themselves up for ownage, hype it up boys give us ammo :P

They compared KZ2 to pre alpha screenies from November....alpha allready looks way better. Take a look at this pre alpha gameplay shot.

and compare with latest alpha build (note tht those 2 are from video so they arent as sharp as game in real)

Textures are much sharper now....look how much more detailed is the gun. And theres still longer way to full release so i guess Bungie will make it look even better ;)

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]Thats not a bad thing :P

That was a bad cap, GOW 3 looks great.. I am just point out flaws, instead of mindlessly bashing. Halo:reach will be a technical marvel. Though, even I don't know why halo:reach is in this arguement, Alan wake would make a much better case.

Killzone 2 scored the same as an "expansion".

It didn't score as high as Halo 3.

And like Halo 3, Reach will once again gain 9.5 status.

But hey, if a lesser product is what you're about, then go right ahead.

Killzone 2 is good, but still a lesser and less desirable product.

The way i look it. If i was pro cow i would want to wait for Reach to be released before comparing to "my year and a half old game". Cause even if Reach does blow my old game away, my old game competes and thats great till KZ3 releases which it will. Lets wait and see till Reach releases for a showdown8) If i was pro lemming. I hope Reach does look better graphicalywhen released so i can bask in my glory. Is that what will happen? Or will Cows reign supreme? Or maybe the lemmings will rule SW with amazing looking Reach pics and gifs. We shall see this winter.

Guys lets talk on the real here. Halo Reach is a remarkable step-up from Halo 3, but come on guys. Let's take off the googles for a bit and talk honest. Halo Reach does not look as good as Killzone 2. Bring up as many excuses/reasons as you want (i.e. AI, Scale, Colors, etc...) but the fact still remains that Killzone 2 looks superior to Halo Reach. And people need to stop using scale as an excuse. For instance, Shadow of the Colossus was massive in scale and one of the most ambitious PS2 games, yet it still had some of the best graphics on the system, and stellar textures at the time. Also, no one can claim that God of War 3 lacks in scale, as we have seen from the large titans which are actually the battlegrounds and which move through combat, and the battle with man enemies at one time. Scale, both in size and numbers, is pretty epic in GoW3, and yet it seems to have pushed the bar for console graphics (from what we've seen so far). All I'm saying is, sometimes your favorite game isn't the best looking one out there. No need to find excuses and reasons to defend it, because it doesn't need defending! As long as it looks better than an Xbox game, it has passed the minimum graphical requirements of a next gen game. All that matters is the fun factor. II_Seraphim_II

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[QUOTE="2mrw"][QUOTE="MC3887"]

That was a bad cap, GOW 3 looks great.. I am just point out flaws, instead of mindlessly bashing. Halo:reach will be a technical marvel. Though, even I don't know why halo:reach is in this arguement, Alan wake would make a much better case.

II_Seraphim_II

so sexy, if they made a female hades, i will make sure that sleeping with her is the first and the last thing i will do, lol.

[QUOTE="MC3887"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]Thats not a bad thing :P

2mrw

That was a bad cap, GOW 3 looks great.. I am just point out flaws, instead of mindlessly bashing. Halo:reach will be a technical marvel. Though, even I don't know why halo:reach is in this arguement, Alan wake would make a much better case.

Wow, looks really nice, Hades look so awesome..... The titans are also pretty well textured, but still I see the bad ground textures, but you have to cut back somewhere, and you don't see them often the way they handle the camera. But it did not blow me away(Hades does, the skin texture is so awesome on him.), I do not know whether it could be sub-conscious bias or what. To me even I have to admit Reach is not at KZ2 level but close. But currently I think AW looks better than KZ2 and reach.. and about UC2 level. Reach is only Alpha so we shall see. Reach has bad environmently textures so far, that to me, is all they need to improve..

[QUOTE="2mrw"][QUOTE="MC3887"]

That was a bad cap, GOW 3 looks great.. I am just point out flaws, instead of mindlessly bashing. Halo:reach will be a technical marvel. Though, even I don't know why halo:reach is in this arguement, Alan wake would make a much better case.

II_Seraphim_II

I never should have put that GOW3 screen cap up :P

[QUOTE="2mrw"][QUOTE="MC3887"]

That was a bad cap, GOW 3 looks great.. I am just point out flaws, instead of mindlessly bashing. Halo:reach will be a technical marvel. Though, even I don't know why halo:reach is in this arguement, Alan wake would make a much better case.

Wow, looks really nice, Hades look so awesome..... The titans are also pretty well textured, but still I see the bad ground textures, but you have to cut back somewhere, and you don't see them often the way they handle the camera. But it did not blow me away(Hades does, the skin texture is so awesome on him.), I do not know whether it could be sub-conscious bias or what. To me even I have to admit Reach is not at KZ2 level but close. But currently I think AW looks better than KZ2 and reach.. and about UC2 level. Reach is only Alpha so we shall see. Reach has bad environmently textures so far, that to me, is all they need to improve..

They compared KZ2 to pre alpha screenies from November....alpha allready looks way better. Take a look at this pre alpha gameplay shot.

and compare with latest alpha build (note tht those 2 are from video so they arent as sharp as game in real)

Textures are much sharper now....look how much more detailed is the gun. And theres still longer way to full release so i guess Bungie will make it look even better ;)

Magik85

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="2mrw"] u need to see the trailer MC3887, Hades in action is another marvel for you, it's awesome. http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-chaos-god-of-war/61815 , give it a try.xOMGITSJASONx

I never should have put that GOW3 screen cap up :P

[QUOTE="MC3887"]

[QUOTE="2mrw"] u need to see the trailer MC3887, Hades in action is another marvel for you, it's awesome. http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-chaos-god-of-war/61815 , give it a try.2mrw

Wow, looks really nice, Hades look so awesome..... The titans are also pretty well textured, but still I see the bad ground textures, but you have to cut back somewhere, and you don't see them often the way they handle the camera. But it did not blow me away(Hades does, the skin texture is so awesome on him.), I do not know whether it could be sub-conscious bias or what. To me even I have to admit Reach is not at KZ2 level but close. But currently I think AW looks better than KZ2 and reach.. and about UC2 level. Reach is only Alpha so we shall see. Reach has bad environmently textures so far, that to me, is all they need to improve..

I injected a little about how I act on real life into my opinion this time, with SW overstating your opinion, bias becomes slightly worse. I see the consoles as nearly the same, seriously out side of a few games they are the same, graphically out side of slight multiplat/exclsuive differences they are the same and both can be explained away. Cow: X360 is easier to dev for, that's why the graphics are better!. Lems: The PS3 has more 1st party dev and work together more so graphics evolve faster!. Which excuse holds more truth? I don't know.

[QUOTE="Magik85"]

They compared KZ2 to pre alpha screenies from November....alpha allready looks way better. Take a look at this pre alpha gameplay shot.

and compare with latest alpha build (note tht those 2 are from video so they arent as sharp as game in real)

Textures are much sharper now....look how much more detailed is the gun. And theres still longer way to full release so i guess Bungie will make it look even better ;)

toast_burner

If you look closely they improved the AR from that point. That pic to the vidoc.

After reading this thread I feel that I'm one of the only sane people on these boards.tehsystemwarior

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

there isn't anything special about this pic. the others look good because of the lighting and blur effects. but this pic doesn't look that good and keeps getting used for some reason

MC3887

If you look closely they improved the AR from that point. That pic to the vidoc.

Lol but Reach is still going to be the better game...so it doesnt matter.

I love it how nobody takes this into mind, Killzone has done a damn good job to say everyone was mocking the original on the Playstation 2. Xbox fanboys felt safe knowing Killzone would never amount to their precious Halo, then suddenly when Killzone 2 gets released with it's (let's be honest people) bloody good graphics, it seems like Halo fanboys are shaking and their boots and hoping to death that Halo Reach will top it, and even if it doesn't, they'll all be so biased see it! This whole topic is pathetic, instead of actually judging the gameplay it's all about the damn graphics. Woopty-Doo, Killzone 2 manages to top the graphics of Halo 3, I'm sure Guerrilla are terribly sorry and will send all those Halo fanboys a 'Get well soon' card.meconate

Um, most halo fans don't care that much about graphics, people just want to gloat. If it wasn't for SW, I would not give a rat's ass. Honestly Halo reach could look like Halo 2 and I would be fine.

[QUOTE="MC3887"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

there isn't anything special about this pic. the others look good because of the lighting and blur effects. but this pic doesn't look that good and keeps getting used for some reason

toast_burner

If you look closely they improved the AR from that point. That pic to the vidoc.

Assault rifle

I love it how nobody takes this into mind, Killzone has done a damn good job to say everyone was mocking the original on the Playstation 2. Xbox fanboys felt safe knowing Killzone would never amount to their precious Halo, then suddenly when Killzone 2 gets released with it's (let's be honest people) bloody good graphics, it seems like Halo fanboys are shaking and their boots and hoping to death that Halo Reach will top it, and even if it doesn't, they'll all be so biased see it! This whole topic is pathetic, instead of actually judging the gameplay it's all about the damn graphics. Woopty-Doo, Killzone 2 manages to top the graphics of Halo 3, I'm sure Guerrilla are terribly sorry and will send all those Halo fanboys a 'Get well soon' card.meconate

Great post. Killzone is one less game game behind Halo for blowing up big on the ps3. The groundwork kZ2 has laid out should make KZ3 a huge success commercially. I don't care about sales.. But i do believe KZ3 will be bigger and more badass than KZ2. Anybody that watched the ending of KZ2 knows 3 will be huge. Halo CE was a freak of nature at the time of release. Bungie did it right the first time GG did not. GG did do the second game right and the third will be huge for the Cows, Sony, PS3.

[QUOTE="meconate"]I love it how nobody takes this into mind, Killzone has done a damn good job to say everyone was mocking the original on the Playstation 2. Xbox fanboys felt safe knowing Killzone would never amount to their precious Halo, then suddenly when Killzone 2 gets released with it's (let's be honest people) bloody good graphics, it seems like Halo fanboys are shaking and their boots and hoping to death that Halo Reach will top it, and even if it doesn't, they'll all be so biased see it! This whole topic is pathetic, instead of actually judging the gameplay it's all about the damn graphics. Woopty-Doo, Killzone 2 manages to top the graphics of Halo 3, I'm sure Guerrilla are terribly sorry and will send all those Halo fanboys a 'Get well soon' card.MC3887

Um, most halo fans don't care that much about graphics, people just want to gloat. If it wasn't for SW, I would not give a rat's ass. Honestly Halo reach could look like Halo 2 and I would be fine.

No offense but your a typical Halo fanboy. Its cool i'm the biggest MGS fanboy so its all good. :)

That was done using the old screens taken in November, and Halo Reach actually doesn't look so bad in comparison. I bet it will be on par, or nearly on par by release. Plus 360 gets Crysis 2, which from the demos looks better than anything on consoles yet. rolo107

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[QUOTE="MC3887"]

If you look closely they improved the AR from that point. That pic to the vidoc.

MC3887

Assault rifle

Lol but Reach is still going to be the better game...so it doesnt matter.

destro123

going to be better by alot too

[QUOTE="rolo107"]That was done using the old screens taken in November, and Halo Reach actually doesn't look so bad in comparison. I bet it will be on par, or nearly on par by release. Plus 360 gets Crysis 2, which from the demos looks better than anything on consoles yet. gamewhat

Have you seen the BFBC2 SP footage, on par with anything the PS3 has produced..easily. Not even accounting for scale and destructability.

People are also ignoring these @toast.

MC3887

This one is great

This one not so much.

overall its going to look great

[QUOTE="rolo107"]That was done using the old screens taken in November, and Halo Reach actually doesn't look so bad in comparison. I bet it will be on par, or nearly on par by release. Plus 360 gets Crysis 2, which from the demos looks better than anything on consoles yet. gamewhat

Its obvious Killzone 2 looks better. Its on a more powerful machine. Whats the point of this comparison?

lol awesome thread i see the lems are mad i think halo reach will look good i dont know if itll match k2 or uncharted2 but it will be pretty good

cmon cows dont ruin it for them

Its obvious Killzone 2 looks better. Its on a more powerful machine. Whats the point of this comparison?

RadecSupreme

Untill the PS3 can truly beat the X360 consitantly in Multiplats and more than a decent margin in exclusives, it isn't more powerful. I mean look at alan wake, Halo reach, BFBC 2, Metro 2033...

lol awesome thread i see the lems are mad i think halo reach will look good i dont know if itll match k2 or uncharted2 but it will be pretty good

cmon cows dont ruin it for them

coltgames

Cows seem more mad than lems.

Its obvious Killzone 2 looks better. Its on a more powerful machine. Whats the point of this comparison?

RadecSupreme

[QUOTE="coltgames"]

lol awesome thread i see the lems are mad i think halo reach will look good i dont know if itll match k2 or uncharted2 but it will be pretty good

cmon cows dont ruin it for them

MC3887

Cows seem more mad than lems.

[QUOTE="gamewhat"]

[QUOTE="rolo107"]That was done using the old screens taken in November, and Halo Reach actually doesn't look so bad in comparison. I bet it will be on par, or nearly on par by release. Plus 360 gets Crysis 2, which from the demos looks better than anything on consoles yet. mitu123