Has the PC handed the GRAPHICS batton to the playstation 3

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#1 dog_dirt
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Everyone would agree that the PC dominated graphics a few years ago. console didn't come anywhere near the graphics of the PC.

But now I think MOST would agree that the playstation 3 IS where the graphical innovation are taking place NOW. and as dev learn to harness the power of the CELL more and more the bar will be raised further and further.

Games like Uncharted 1 and 2, Ratchet and Clank, Infamous, Wipeout HD and Demon's Souls all go to show the potential on offer from the playstation 3, the cell and from devs that are willing to put the time and effort in to learn who to use it.

what are YOUR thoughts on the subject.

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#2 The_RedLion
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Crysis looks better than anything consoles. So no.
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#3 stygiansanity
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PC still has the best looking games.
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#4 heysharpshooter
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that you didn't think that much when you made this thread.

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#5 AnnoyedDragon
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Great, another one of these.

I think if Cows want to avoid being associated with this mentality they should criticise this guy as well...

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I was looking for a good laugh this morning and got one. Thanks.
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#7 MyopicCanadian
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Uncharted 2 is the only one out of those games that I think looks really good, but I know it could also be done on PC.. so it's not a big deal. I'd like to see something like Shattered Horizon on PS3..

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#8 PAL360
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Err no. Ppl need to stop overhyping cell and realise that PS3 and 360 are just at the same tecnical level. Except Uncharted2, the games you posted dont even look close to Gears2. And some PC games expecially Crysis destroy everything on 360 and PS3.

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#9 kolkov01
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But now I think MOST would agree that the playstation 3 IS where the graphical innovation are taking place NOW.dog_dirt
I think most would agree you are wrong
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#10 Legendaryscmt
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Play Crysis on a decent rig and you'll see consoles still have a long way to go.

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#11 kraken2109
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PS3 games are getting better and it has lots of good games coming, but the graphics will never match PC.

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#12 Kan0nF0dder
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*sigh* No. Cows not happy with lemming scalps over graphics they go after Hermits too. The PS3 will never match the PC when it comes to graphics. NEVER, give it up.

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#13 Cait__Sith
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No...Just no...Seriously stop making these stupid threads already. We get likefive every day claiming PS3 has the best graphics, etc. So just stop the fanboyism and don't click that "new thread" button.

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#14 Lantern-Cusp
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Jesus, PC fanboys are the worst....... I think he makes a good point. No console game may be better in graphics then Crysis yet, but they are getting close and thats where all the innovation is.

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#15 Nagidar
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Jesus, PC fanboys are the worst....... I think he makes a good point. No console game may be better in graphics then Crysis yet, but they are getting close and thats where all the innovation is.

Lantern-Cusp

Nothing has come close to Crysis' size and scope, let alone graphics...

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#16 Ryan_Som
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Great, another one of these.

I think if Cows want to avoid being associated with this mentality they should criticise this guy as well...

AnnoyedDragon

Yeah...I love my PS3 as much as the next guy, but if you're NOT excluding the PC (as is commonly done) and pitting ANY console head-to-head against a PC?

Sorry, but the PC wins every time.

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#17 Cait__Sith
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Jesus, PC fanboys are the worst....... I think he makes a good point. No console game may be better in graphics then Crysis yet, but they are getting close and thats where all the innovation is.

Lantern-Cusp
Funny thing is they arn't getting close.
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#18 heysharpshooter
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[QUOTE="Lantern-Cusp"]

Jesus, PC fanboys are the worst....... I think he makes a good point. No console game may be better in graphics then Crysis yet, but they are getting close and thats where all the innovation is.

Nagidar

Nothing has come close to Crysis' size and scope, let alone graphics...

And yet so many console games are better than Crysis. Yes, it is graphics king, but also a buggy mess with horribly broken AI and a stupid story.

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But now I think MOST would agree that the playstation 3 IS where the graphical innovation are taking place NOW. and as dev learn to harness the power of the CELL more and more the bar will be raised further and further.

dog_dirt

do you even know what a processor does? it makes calculations and processes code, thats it. yes, those calculations determine what happens in-game, but the processor does very little to effect graphics.

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#20 Nagidar
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[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="Lantern-Cusp"]

Jesus, PC fanboys are the worst....... I think he makes a good point. No console game may be better in graphics then Crysis yet, but they are getting close and thats where all the innovation is.

heysharpshooter

Nothing has come close to Crysis' size and scope, let alone graphics...

And yet so many console games are better than Crysis. Yes, it is graphics king, but also a buggy mess with horribly broken AI and a stupid story.

I haven't had any problems with bugs or the A.I., at all, the amount of things going on in its massive open world maps is just too much for the PS3 or 360 to handle.

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#21 sam_nintendo
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I normally don't agree with using it, but I think now is one of those times when the Crysis flood is necessary.

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#22 Cait__Sith
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[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="Lantern-Cusp"]

Jesus, PC fanboys are the worst....... I think he makes a good point. No console game may be better in graphics then Crysis yet, but they are getting close and thats where all the innovation is.

heysharpshooter

Nothing has come close to Crysis' size and scope, let alone graphics...

And yet so many console games are better than Crysis. Yes, it is graphics king, but also a buggy mess with horribly broken AI and a stupid story.

I think you are playing a different game.

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#23 Kan0nF0dder
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Jesus, PC fanboys are the worst....... I think he makes a good point. No console game may be better in graphics then Crysis yet, but they are getting close and thats where all the innovation is.

Lantern-Cusp
Ya see the thing is...they aren't getting close. Play Crysis, that's the first stage of accpetance.
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#25 dog_dirt
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[QUOTE="dog_dirt"]

But now I think MOST would agree that the playstation 3 IS where the graphical innovation are taking place NOW. and as dev learn to harness the power of the CELL more and more the bar will be raised further and further.

lazzordude

do you even know what a processor does? it makes calculations and processes code, thats it. yes, those calculations determine what happens in-game, but the processor does very little to effect graphics.

what do you think a GPU is
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#26 fenwickhotmail
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Jesus, PC fanboys are the worst....... I think he makes a good point. No console game may be better in graphics then Crysis yet, but they are getting close and thats where all the innovation is.

Lantern-Cusp
It's getting closer, even though the PC graphics are always getting better due to upgrading being possible. Explain your logic
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#27 heysharpshooter
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[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

Nothing has come close to Crysis' size and scope, let alone graphics...

Cait__Sith

And yet so many console games are better than Crysis. Yes, it is graphics king, but also a buggy mess with horribly broken AI and a stupid story.

I think you are playing a different game.

LINK. watch the review.

Happens on my friends brothers computer(the only 1 I know that can play the game on high settings) all the time. He found it a waste of his money, and he is as PC elite as they come.

Thats some great AI. Seriously.

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#29 lazzordude
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[QUOTE="lazzordude"]

[QUOTE="dog_dirt"]

But now I think MOST would agree that the playstation 3 IS where the graphical innovation are taking place NOW. and as dev learn to harness the power of the CELL more and more the bar will be raised further and further.

dog_dirt

do you even know what a processor does? it makes calculations and processes code, thats it. yes, those calculations determine what happens in-game, but the processor does very little to effect graphics.

what do you think a GPU is

something that has absolutely nothing to do with "the CELL"
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#30 Nagidar
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[QUOTE="Cait__Sith"]

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

And yet so many console games are better than Crysis. Yes, it is graphics king, but also a buggy mess with horribly broken AI and a stupid story.

heysharpshooter

I think you are playing a different game.

LINK. watch the review.

Happens on my friends brothers computer(the only 1 I know that can play the game on high settings) all the time. He found it a waste of his money, and he is as PC elite as they come.

Thats some great AI. Seriously.

You picked a video, from TWO years ago, around the time the game was released and TWO years later still say the things you do? You do know most of the stuff that is wrong with games at release, are patched, right?

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#31 heysharpshooter
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[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="Cait__Sith"] I think you are playing a different game.

Nagidar

LINK. watch the review.

Happens on my friends brothers computer(the only 1 I know that can play the game on high settings) all the time. He found it a waste of his money, and he is as PC elite as they come.

Thats some great AI. Seriously.

You picked a video, from TWO years ago, around the time the game was released and TWO years later still say the things you do? You do know most of the stuff that is wrong with games at release, are patched, right?

Maybe the bugs, but thats some serious patching to fix AI like that.

And isn't it nice that console games often have all the stuff worked out BEFORE the release, so constantly downloading patches all the time isn't needed, except in a few rare cases like with Borderlands on the PS3.

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#32 lazzordude
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[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

LINK. watch the review.

Happens on my friends brothers computer(the only 1 I know that can play the game on high settings) all the time. He found it a waste of his money, and he is as PC elite as they come.

Thats some great AI. Seriously.

heysharpshooter

You picked a video, from TWO years ago, around the time the game was released and TWO years later still say the things you do? You do know most of the stuff that is wrong with games at release, are patched, right?

Maybe the bugs, but thats some serious patching to fix AI like that.

And isn't it nice that console games often have all the stuff worked out BEFORE the release, so constantly downloading patches all the time isn't needed, except in a few rare cases like with Borderlands on the PS3.

lol, all games have bugs at release. only a handful of devs will actually take the time to fix them however.
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#33 1080pOnly
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Cool, so I can play all of my Playstation gamesat 1920x1080 (1080p)with 8XQAA and 16XAF? Who would have known that all of those multiplats I bought on PC rather than my PS3 would all have looked better on my PS3 even though they don't.

It is a mad world we live in but thanks for opening my eyes TC :roll:.

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#34 Nagidar
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[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

LINK. watch the review.

Happens on my friends brothers computer(the only 1 I know that can play the game on high settings) all the time. He found it a waste of his money, and he is as PC elite as they come.

Thats some great AI. Seriously.

heysharpshooter

You picked a video, from TWO years ago, around the time the game was released and TWO years later still say the things you do? You do know most of the stuff that is wrong with games at release, are patched, right?

Maybe the bugs, but thats some serious patching to fix AI like that.

And isn't it nice that console games often have all the stuff worked out BEFORE the release, so constantly downloading patches all the time isn't needed, except in a few rare cases like with Borderlands on the PS3.

Yes, console games have perfect A.I.: Link

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#35 Cait__Sith
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[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

LINK. watch the review.

Happens on my friends brothers computer(the only 1 I know that can play the game on high settings) all the time. He found it a waste of his money, and he is as PC elite as they come.

Thats some great AI. Seriously.

You picked a video, from TWO years ago, around the time the game was released and TWO years later still say the things you do? You do know most of the stuff that is wrong with games at release, are patched, right?

Maybe the bugs, but thats some serious patching to fix AI like that.

And isn't it nice that console games often have all the stuff worked out BEFORE the release, so constantly downloading patches all the time isn't needed, except in a few rare cases like with Borderlands on the PS3.

As an owner of Crysis and Crysis Warhead I can tell you the AI is not that stupid. And you linked an X-play review...*facepalm* and all this is coming from someone with a MW2 banner in their sig.
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Cool, so I can play all of my Playstation gamesat 1920x1080 (1080p)with 8XQAA and 16XAF? Who would have known that all of those multiplats I bought on PC rather than my PS3 would all have looked better on my PS3 even though they don't.

It is a mad world we live in but thanks for opening my eyes TC :roll:.

1080pOnly

Exactly. It is sad that many PS3 fanboys think they are playing their games at 1080P native resolution just because they are using their 1080P televisions. Then again, the back of the game boxes state 1080P as marketing jargon so they just assume. The vast majority of PS3/360 games run at 720P or below with little to no anti-aliasing and are upscaled, whereas as you stated, the PC can run these multiplatform titles at 1080P and above with full anti-aliasing and other goodies.

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Um, only if you smear your PC monitor with Vasoline and tone down the settings a bunch.
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#38 1080pOnly
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As an owner of Crysis and Crysis Warhead I can tell you the AI is not that stupid. And you linked an X-play review...*facepalm* and all this is coming from someone with a MW2 banner in their sig.

What's even funnier is the PS3 is the worst platform for MW2 in terms of graphics, numbers of players and options :P.

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Eh nnnno. Are you kidding?

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Cool, so I can play all of my Playstation gamesat 1920x1080 (1080p)with 8XQAA and 16XAF? Who would have known that all of those multiplats I bought on PC rather than my PS3 would all have looked better on my PS3 even though they don't.

It is a mad world we live in but thanks for opening my eyes TC :roll:.

1080pOnly
nobody owns PC's that powerfull anymore. this is why a nearly 3 year old game is still the bench mark.
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#41 Crazyguy105
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What is this, the 100th topic like this?

No, PC stills owns all the consoles when it comes to graphics.

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#42 Flanker15
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No it the PC still has the batton BUT it has been sitting on its ass twidling it since 2007.

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The only way the PC has handed the graphics batton to the PS3 is by bludgeoning it to death with it,

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#44 MonsieurX
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Congrats on having games that's getting close to a 2007 game!
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[QUOTE="1080pOnly"]

Cool, so I can play all of my Playstation gamesat 1920x1080 (1080p)with 8XQAA and 16XAF? Who would have known that all of those multiplats I bought on PC rather than my PS3 would all have looked better on my PS3 even though they don't.

It is a mad world we live in but thanks for opening my eyes TC :roll:.

dog_dirt
nobody owns PC's that powerfull anymore. this is why a nearly 3 year old game is still the bench mark.

Wait, so now you are arguing that PCs get less powerful as time goes on? How does that make any sense at all?
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#46 1080pOnly
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[QUOTE="1080pOnly"]

Cool, so I can play all of my Playstation gamesat 1920x1080 (1080p)with 8XQAA and 16XAF? Who would have known that all of those multiplats I bought on PC rather than my PS3 would all have looked better on my PS3 even though they don't.

It is a mad world we live in but thanks for opening my eyes TC :roll:.

ninjakamster1

Exactly. It is sad that many PS3 fanboys think they are playing their games at 1080P native resolution just because they are using their 1080P televisions. Then again, the back of the game boxes state 1080P as marketing jargon so they just assume. The vast majority of PS3/360 games run at 720P or below with little to no anti-aliasing and are upscaled, whereas as you stated, the PC can run these multiplatform titles at 1080P and above with full anti-aliasing and other goodies.

Indeed, and the difference that makes to the visuals alone without the higher resolution textures,per-pixel lighting and particle effects, hardware accelerated physics, full scene ambient occlusion, mods and more.

Clearly though the PS3 is better 'cause it doesn't need to use all those things and still look da super awesomeness on mah 28" Sony CRT.

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No.
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No matter how much money you spend no matter how much time you spend no matter how optimization you do no matter if you can squeeze every bit of power out of a gimped down 7800gtx that ps3 uses and an in-order 2004 designed Cpu you can never match graphics even on a pc equipped with anything from an 8800 series gpu or better ( 8800gt a rather popular card even nowdays is 2-2,5x times faster than a non gimped 7800gtx let alone the RSX ) Most games on PS3 run at 720p at most with a lot including MW2 at sub par HD resolutions without AA and yet cant manage 60fps\ On the other hand an average gaming pc with something like a 9800gt or 4850 can play games like Dragon age, mirrors edge, race driver grid, MW2 at 1080p with a bit of AA and usually well above 30fps So no and as times passes differences between pc games and console games graphics wise will get bigger only
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="dog_dirt"][QUOTE="1080pOnly"]

Cool, so I can play all of my Playstation gamesat 1920x1080 (1080p)with 8XQAA and 16XAF? Who would have known that all of those multiplats I bought on PC rather than my PS3 would all have looked better on my PS3 even though they don't.

It is a mad world we live in but thanks for opening my eyes TC :roll:.

nobody owns PC's that powerfull anymore. this is why a nearly 3 year old game is still the bench mark.

Wait, so now you are arguing that PCs get less powerful as time goes on? How does that make any sense at all?

Yeah, because my 5870 is just as powerful as my 2 year old 8800GT...
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#50 1080pOnly
Member since 2009 • 2216 Posts

[QUOTE="dog_dirt"][QUOTE="1080pOnly"]

Cool, so I can play all of my Playstation gamesat 1920x1080 (1080p)with 8XQAA and 16XAF? Who would have known that all of those multiplats I bought on PC rather than my PS3 would all have looked better on my PS3 even though they don't.

It is a mad world we live in but thanks for opening my eyes TC :roll:.

SpruceCaboose

nobody owns PC's that powerfull anymore. this is why a nearly 3 year old game is still the bench mark.

Wait, so now you are arguing that PCs get less powerful as time goes on? How does that make any sense at all?

You're confusing 'arguing' with 'flapping wildly at the ownage and scribbling nonsense'.

When you view things from that perspective all becomes clear.