Has the PC handed the GRAPHICS batton to the playstation 3

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#101 lime_93
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no man PCs can be constantly upgraded a ps3 stays as is
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#102 ZoomZoom2490
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[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

what ps3 has done to PC is that you dont need a 400 dollar gpu to make impressive graphics, pc devs really dont try to get the most out of a gpu.

my $150 gpu maxes out crysis at 1680x1050

my 'old' $75 gpu played it on high at 1080p and maxed out every other game at that res.

so ps3 is still behind

any gpu can max out crysis in the settings menu, i know.
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#103 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]PC fps games look better than the rest of console fps games, but as far as other genres go i don't think PC really does anything consoles can't do. GT5, God of War III, The last guardian ,MGS4 andvFFXIII look as good(if not A LOT better) as any racer, hack n slash, puzzle/adventure, stealth,rpg game on PC._Pedro_

How about Strategy games?There is still yet to be a game technically superior to CoH on the 360 while even the PS3 may struggle to deliver it's achievement. Unfortunately not many people understand just how advanced games like CoH, SupCom, WiC and E:TW are.

I second that. I find large scale strategy games like empires total war, Dow 2, Wic, Supreme commander and even sins of a solar empire ( soase with the right mods ) far more technically impressive than any console game. Having hundreds and even thousands of units on screen at a large and detailed map is impressive
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#104 washd123
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any gpu can max out crysis in the settings menu, i know.ZoomZoom2490

on my $150 hd4890

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yFVRN2sKIo

on my $75 hd4830

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#105 Fizzman
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why havent you been banned yet?

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#106 AvIdGaMeR444
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lol at cows. PS3 graphics being a bit better than 360 lately DOES NOT mean the graphics are better than PC.

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#107 lundy86_4
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Do they all run at lower resolutions than any new release PC games? Yes.

Therefore, TC is spouting a load of rubbish.

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#108 Adrian_Cloud
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[QUOTE="_Pedro_"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]PC fps games look better than the rest of console fps games, but as far as other genres go i don't think PC really does anything consoles can't do. GT5, God of War III, The last guardian ,MGS4 andvFFXIII look as good(if not A LOT better) as any racer, hack n slash, puzzle/adventure, stealth,rpg game on PC.adamosmaki

How about Strategy games?There is still yet to be a game technically superior to CoH on the 360 while even the PS3 may struggle to deliver it's achievement. Unfortunately not many people understand just how advanced games like CoH, SupCom, WiC and E:TW are.

I second that. I find large scale strategy games like empires total war, Dow 2, Wic, Supreme commander and even sins of a solar empire ( soase with the right mods ) far more technically impressive than any console game. Having hundreds and even thousands of units on screen at a large and detailed map is impressive

Units with simplistic A.I and with poor animations. Thats not impressive at all, the LOD is very low in those type of games. However PC RTS are alot better than console ones.
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#109 _Pedro_
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] Units with simplistic A.I and with poor animations. Thats not impressive at all, the LOD is very low in those type of games. However PC RTS are alot better than console ones.

simplistic A.I. and poor animations? Don't tell me.... you've never played the majority of the games we've named?
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#110 Mazoch
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[QUOTE="adamosmaki"][QUOTE="_Pedro_"]

How about Strategy games?There is still yet to be a game technically superior to CoH on the 360 while even the PS3 may struggle to deliver it's achievement. Unfortunately not many people understand just how advanced games like CoH, SupCom, WiC and E:TW are.

Adrian_Cloud

I second that. I find large scale strategy games like empires total war, Dow 2, Wic, Supreme commander and even sins of a solar empire ( soase with the right mods ) far more technically impressive than any console game. Having hundreds and even thousands of units on screen at a large and detailed map is impressive

Units with simplistic A.I and with poor animations. Thats not impressive at all, the LOD is very low in those type of games. However PC RTS are alot better than console ones.

Hehe.. you really don't know a lot about top tier strategy games do you?

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#111 Jfisch93
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Hell no, but the gap has become smaller.

I dont think consoles will ever be on equal grounds with the PC.

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#112 washd123
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Hell no, but the gap has become smaller.

I dont think consoles will ever be on equal grounds with the PC.

Jfisch93

the gap is still huge. crysis is a pc exclusive and has the best graphics.

uncharted 2 has the best graphics on the consoles and comes no where near having crysis level tech

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#113 Jfisch93
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[QUOTE="Jfisch93"]

Hell no, but the gap has become smaller.

I dont think consoles will ever be on equal grounds with the PC.

washd123

the gap is still huge. crysis is a pc exclusive and has the best graphics.

uncharted 2 has the best graphics on the consoles and comes no where near having crysis level tech

Crysis isnt the only game with good graphics on the pc.

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#114 tagyhag
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The only stupider thing than people claiming "game" has better graphics than Crysis, is people claiming Graphics is all graphics no gameplay. THAT's when you know they haven't played the game.
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#115 imprezawrx500
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Everyone would agree that the PC dominated graphics a few years ago. console didn't come anywhere near the graphics of the PC.

But now I think MOST would agree that the playstation 3 IS where the graphical innovation are taking place NOW. and as dev learn to harness the power of the CELL more and more the bar will be raised further and further.

Games like Uncharted 1 and 2, Ratchet and Clank, Infamous, Wipeout HD and Demon's Souls all go to show the potential on offer from the playstation 3, the cell and from devs that are willing to put the time and effort in to learn who to use it.

what are YOUR thoughts on the subject.

dog_dirt
yet not a single game you listed can match crysis or the pc version of fc2, gta4, and pretty much any multiplat game on pc. pc always wins graphics why can't you just accept that?
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#116 imprezawrx500
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Jesus, PC fanboys are the worst....... I think he makes a good point. No console game may be better in graphics then Crysis yet, but they are getting close and thats where all the innovation is.

Lantern-Cusp
there is no innovation is running sub hd resolutions so you can make it almost as good as 2007 pc games in true hd running on 2007 hardware.
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#117 Lantern-Cusp
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[QUOTE="Lantern-Cusp"]

Jesus, PC fanboys are the worst....... I think he makes a good point. No console game may be better in graphics then Crysis yet, but they are getting close and thats where all the innovation is.

Kan0nF0dder

Ya see the thing is...they aren't getting close. Play Crysis, that's the first stage of accpetance.



yeah.....I have played Crysis maxed out on my friends PC rig...... looks good....... not that much better then Uncharted 2.......

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#118 skrat_01
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Jesus, PC fanboys are the worst....... I think he makes a good point. No console game may be better in graphics then Crysis yet, but they are getting close and thats where all the innovation is.

Lantern-Cusp
Really, I see console fanboys making these threads on almost a daily basis, graphically contesting. And where is the innovation? What innovation? To replicate the detail, complexity and scale of Crysis on current console hardware? Really?
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#119 Lantern-Cusp
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[QUOTE="Cait__Sith"][QUOTE="garland51"]

No, PS3 fanboys are.

garland51

Yeah, and I always thought 360 fanboys where some of the worst, but it seems PS3 fanboys are starting to show their true colors.

Indeed they are, such as sales. First, they didn't care about sales, but now that the PS3 has reached $300 along with the slim, they act like that they're invincible. How hypocritical.



How in the world did your delusional minds grasp any sort of fanboy comment from what i said? your so freaking defensive about nothing, its like i questioned your god or something. I didn't even mention the Ps3, I just expressed that I feel there is more innovation being directed towards console games as of recent. If without me mentioning any games whatsoever, you happen to conclude i am speaking of certain Ps3 titles, then there must be something on your minds..

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#120 DeadEndPanda
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i lol'd stop it please

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#121 ArisShadows
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Whether it be Crysis, or just a better looking multiplat, the answer is no. PC graphics > PS3 graphics.
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#122 Spanks113
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The gap is getting wider dude. Why make such a dumb thread
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#123 Kandlegoat
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The only stupider thing than people claiming "game" has better graphics than Crysis, is people claiming Graphics is all graphics no gameplay. THAT's when you know they haven't played the game.tagyhag

Yeah..Graphics could have Ps1 textures and still have amazing gameplay.

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#125 Kandlegoat
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Do the people who make these threads sniff gasoline all day long? Games are first made on the P.C. so no console game can ever have better graphics then a P.C.

roulettethedog

I dont make threads like these,but I sniff gasoline all day long anyways.

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#126 Rec-neps
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Well on my current monitor I can bump the resolutions up to 1980x1200 not to mention I can turn up the aa on any of my games. If you were to even try that on the ps3, lets assume you could, the ps3 wouldn't even be able to play nearly any of its games. Uncharted would be a slideshow. Why is this? Its because as soon as the consoles came out your hardware became dated and old and unlike a PC you cannot add any new hardware as it becomes available. So how would you expect a console to beat a gaming PC in terms of graphics?

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#127 xxgunslingerxx
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[QUOTE="dog_dirt"][QUOTE="lazzordude"]

do you even know what a processor does? it makes calculations and processes code, thats it. yes, those calculations determine what happens in-game, but the processor does very little to effect graphics.

lazzordude

what do you think a GPU is

something that has absolutely nothing to do with "the CELL"

you just showed you dont know what a gpu is congrats

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#128 xxgunslingerxx
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[QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"][QUOTE="Lantern-Cusp"]

Jesus, PC fanboys are the worst....... I think he makes a good point. No console game may be better in graphics then Crysis yet, but they are getting close and thats where all the innovation is.

Lantern-Cusp

Ya see the thing is...they aren't getting close. Play Crysis, that's the first stage of accpetance.



yeah.....I have played Crysis maxed out on my friends PC rig...... looks good....... not that much better then Uncharted 2.......

same
look at my rig
i run crysis on the max settings uncharted 2 looks better (some of you dont understand the difference between looks better and what is technically better)
crysis only wins due to the scope factor and everything is sorta destrucble but imo badcompany does a better job of destrucablity

hoesntly of all you people how claim crysis looks better then uncharted 2 how many of you actually have both?

edit: at no point am i claiming the ps3 is more powerful then pc
im just saying the character models, object models and backgrounds in uncharted 2 are better then the ones in crysis

it doesnt matter how high the AA is or how high the reslution your running
a quake 1 model running at 100000000 by 100000000 with 1000000 times AA will still not look good

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#129 Kandlegoat
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[QUOTE="Lantern-Cusp"]

[QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"] Ya see the thing is...they aren't getting close. Play Crysis, that's the first stage of accpetance.xxgunslingerxx



yeah.....I have played Crysis maxed out on my friends PC rig...... looks good....... not that much better then Uncharted 2.......

same
look at my rig
i run crysis on the max settings uncharted 2 looks better (some of you dont understand the difference between looks better and what is technically better)
crysis only wins due to the scope factor and everything is sorta destrucble but imo badcompany does a better job of destrucablity

hoesntly of all you people how claim crysis looks better then uncharted 2 how many of you actually have both?

exactly art > Technology...which is why I feel something like Okami looks better than both of them.

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#130 BloodSeeker1337
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PC has the best looking Games. Newer video cards will be release hence better graphics. If Crysis has been max by 60 FPS then any console game would not match the visuals of Crysis. IMO
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#131 hypoty
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As an owner of both Uncharted 2 and Crysis I feel that I can give an objective opinion. Crysis looks much better. I've recently reinstalled it along with a nice CCC mod and I'm again at awe when I see the game in motion. Uncharted 2 looks nice, but I feel it's more comparable to other console games. Crysis is in another league, graphically.

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#132 Metalscarz
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Crysis looks better than anything consoles. So no.The_RedLion

And yet another thread proven a failure at response #1.

Why do PS3 fans insist that the (almost) 5 year old tech inside a PS3 can contend with modern GPU's. Mind blowing to me.

Just the fact that it's 5 years old should be enough of a clue to realize it's going to get bested by new stuff, regardless of optimization.

Would you expect or try to rationalize the PS3 to have better visuals then the PS4 when that releases?

Stating the PS3 holds it's own against even a GTX 280 is laughable. And thats over a year old now, so.......:roll:

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#133 washd123
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exactly art > Technology...which is why I feel something like Okami looks better than both of them.

Kandlegoat

only problem with that is there no objective standard by which to judge art therefore nobody can say crysis looks better than uncharted 2 or other way around nor can they judge to what degree it looks better.

you cant really debate it because its everyones opinion if i wanted to say vampire rain looks better than uncharted 2 i could and id be right.

you cant blur the lines either and say what the other guy did about how crysis doesnt look so much better than go into technical reasons for it.

you can say what has the best graphics since the term graphics refers to the tech. but right now its crysis so theres really no debate needed for it, the topic is closed for now, the only game that comes relativally close is ARMAII.

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#134 Nagidar
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[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]

exactly art > Technology...which is why I feel something like Okami looks better than both of them.

washd123

only problem with that is there no objective standard by which to judge art therefore nobody can say crysis looks better than uncharted 2 or other way around nor can they judge to what degree it looks better.

you cant really debate it because its everyones opinion if i wanted to say vampire rain looks better than uncharted 2 i could and id be right.

you cant blur the lines either and say what the other guy did about how crysis doesnt look so much better than go into technical reasons for it.

you can say what has the best graphics since the term graphics refers to the tech. but right now its crysis so theres really no debate needed for it, the topic is closed for now, the only game that comes relativally close is ARMAII.

No, Artistic can be objective, Technical cannot.

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#135 washd123
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No, Artistic can be objective, Technical cannot.

Nagidar

sarcasm?

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#136 BiggGaming
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PC still has the best looking games. stygiansanity
Game.

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#137 washd123
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Game.

BiggGaming

ignoring the term looks, the pc still has the 3 games with the best graphics

crysis/warhead

STALKER/STALKER CS

ARMA2

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#138 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="BiggGaming"]

Game.

washd123

ignoring the term looks, the pc still has the 3 games with the best graphics

crysis/warhead

STALKER/STALKER CS

ARMA2

Actually i can add empires total war and World in conflict in there as well considering their size and amount of units on screen
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#139 _Impmacaque_
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Anytime a cow uses the phrase "the CELL" it makes me internally lol. Don't know why it is, but it just seems to be a distinctly fanboyish phrase uttered by those who have no idea what "the CELL" actually is/does/is capable of.

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#140 lazzordude
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[QUOTE="lazzordude"][QUOTE="dog_dirt"] what do you think a GPU isxxgunslingerxx

something that has absolutely nothing to do with "the CELL"

you just showed you dont know what a gpu is congrats

and how is that? i know exactly what a gpu is, such as my radeon 4890. i simply stated a processor doesn't directly affect the graphics, which is what dog_dirt claimed otherwise.
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#141 Nagidar
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[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

No, Artistic can be objective, Technical cannot.

washd123

sarcasm?

No, its the truth, Technical is not objective, Technical is the technology behind the graphics, Artistic is a matter of opinion, an Artstyle is not based on fact, or a technical factor.

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#142 washd123
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No, its the truth, Technical is not objective, Technical is the technology behind the graphics, Artistic is a matter of opinion, an Artstyle is not based on fact, or a technical factor.

Nagidar

thats subjective. objective means based on fact.

not influenced by personal feelings, interpretations, or prejudice; based on facts; unbiased: an objective opinion.


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#143 Nagidar
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[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

No, its the truth, Technical is not objective, Technical is the technology behind the graphics, Artistic is a matter of opinion, an Artstyle is not based on fact, or a technical factor.

washd123

thats subjective. objective means based on fact.

not influenced by personal feelings, interpretations, or prejudice; based on facts; unbiased: an objective opinion.


Crap, I read your post wrong, my bad.

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#144 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Nope. Only Sony fanboys believe that.
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#145 halo_wars86
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Everyone would agree that the PC dominated graphics a few years ago. console didn't come anywhere near the graphics of the PC.

But now I think MOST would agree that the playstation 3 IS where the graphical innovation are taking place NOW. and as dev learn to harness the power of the CELL more and more the bar will be raised further and further.

Games like Uncharted 1 and 2, Ratchet and Clank, Infamous, Wipeout HD and Demon's Souls all go to show the potential on offer from the playstation 3, the cell and from devs that are willing to put the time and effort in to learn who to use it.

what are YOUR thoughts on the subject.

dog_dirt

uncharted 1 graphics are no where near pc games graphics.

uncharted 2 i own the game the grpahics are good but overrated. dont expect the game to look like the bullshots every1 keeps posting on system wars. killzone 2 graphics are better than uncharted 2 graphics.

rachet and clank graphics are good but nothing serious.

infamous has not so good graphics you should not have mentioned it.

demon soul is truely an amzing game and im voting it for game of the year but its not a graphical game. graphics are above average in this game.

i dont watn to say crysis. but the games fear 2 and resident evil 5 on PC are better (graphically) than all the games u mentioned.

btw im not bashing the ps3 my psn is hjaber86 and ive played those games so i know. its just the simple multiplat games on pc are better graphically than exclusive graphical king console games. this is the truth.

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#146 destro123
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No, not at all.

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#147 Filthybastrd
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This must be a joke thread.

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#148 3sFan
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Uncharted 2 is the only one out of those games that I think looks really good, but I know it could also be done on PC.. so it's not a big deal. I'd like to see something like Shattered Horizon on PS3..

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Heavy Rain, Alan Wake ( I know not on PS3 but one of the better looking games), Gran Turismo 5. Dirt 2 and NFS: Shift fail to beat Gran Turismo 5 in graphics. And I have yet to see character models in a PC game as good as those found in Fight Night Round 4.

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#149 Nagidar
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[QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"]

Uncharted 2 is the only one out of those games that I think looks really good, but I know it could also be done on PC.. so it's not a big deal. I'd like to see something like Shattered Horizon on PS3..

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Heavy Rain, Alan Wake ( I know not on PS3 but one of the better looking games), Gran Turismo 5. Dirt 2 and NFS: Shift fail to beat Gran Turismo 5 in graphics. And I have yet to see character models in a PC game as good as those found in Fight Night Round 4.

You need to see Crysis on Ultra Settings then...

Besides, you're talking about a linear boxing game that doesn't have a whole lot going on, not like thats hard to do...

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#150 3sFan
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[QUOTE="3sFan"]

[QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"]

Uncharted 2 is the only one out of those games that I think looks really good, but I know it could also be done on PC.. so it's not a big deal. I'd like to see something like Shattered Horizon on PS3..

Nagidar

Heavy Rain, Alan Wake ( I know not on PS3 but one of the better looking games), Gran Turismo 5. Dirt 2 and NFS: Shift fail to beat Gran Turismo 5 in graphics. And I have yet to see character models in a PC game as good as those found in Fight Night Round 4.

You need to see Crysis on Ultra Settings then...

Besides, you're talking about a linear boxing game that doesn't have a whole lot going on, not like thats hard to do...

Thats being totally biased. Linear or not nothing matches it. And looking at racers nothing on PC comes close to capturing the automobile like Gran Turismo 5.