Has the PC handed the GRAPHICS batton to the playstation 3

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#201 donalbane
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

The RSX is a stripped down Geforce 7800 gpu, And the only thing the cell can do is help take some the load off the gpu which lets the RSX able to do alittle more. Instead of a gimped 7800 it acts like a normal 7800. :PBrainkiller05

Cool story bro, doesn't stop the PS3 from making phenomenal looking games. However you cut the cake, PS3 exclusives look better than the majority of PC games coming out.

That just isn't true, why would you lie?

Probably doesn't have a decent gaming PC, and therefore, no basis of comparison.

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#202 killab2oo5
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] Cool story bro, doesn't stop the PS3 from making phenomenal looking games. However you cut the cake, PS3 exclusives look better than the majority of PC games coming out.donalbane

That just isn't true, why would you lie?

Probably doesn't have a decent gaming PC, and therefore, no basis of comparison.

He's right though. Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 are easily in the top tier graphically, and look better than majority of games out there.
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#203 kolkov01
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[QUOTE="donalbane"]

[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"] That just isn't true, why would you lie? killab2oo5

Probably doesn't have a decent gaming PC, and therefore, no basis of comparison.

He's right though. Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 are easily in the top tier graphically, and look better than majority of games out there.

Except that only 2 PS3 exclusives, which would make them the exception, not the rule and even then they don't surpass games like crysis or Empire Total war
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#204 Silverbond
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....Honestly, threads like these should be locked.

The PS3 can't touch the PC in graphics. End of story.

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#205 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="donalbane"]

[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"] That just isn't true, why would you lie? killab2oo5

Probably doesn't have a decent gaming PC, and therefore, no basis of comparison.

He's right though. Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 are easily in the top tier graphically, and look better than majority of games out there.

i think your statement is missing 1 key word there to make it a fact:

"Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 are easily in the top tier graphically, and look better than majority of CONSOLE games out there"

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i think your statement is missing 1 key word there to make it a fact:

"Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 are easily in the top tier graphically, and look better than majority of CONSOLE games out there"

ogvampire

Except that only 2 PS3 exclusives, which would make them the exception, not the rule

and even then they don't surpass games like crysis or Empire Total warkolkov01

See above where Adrien_Cloud said "However you cut the cake, PS3 exclusives look better than the majority of PC games coming out.". This is true. Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 do indeed look better than the vast majority of console and PC games both released and upcoming. Overall, technically and aesthetically, the general conensus is that KZ2 and Uncharted 2 are in the top tier for "this gen". If you don't wanna take my word for it then go read up on reviews.

Also, PC graphics aren't eons ahead of console graphics anymore. Consoles have been holding their own this gen, especially considering the aged technology devs have to work with.

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#207 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]

i think your statement is missing 1 key word there to make it a fact:

"Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 are easily in the top tier graphically, and look better than majority of CONSOLE games out there"

killab2oo5

Except that only 2 PS3 exclusives, which would make them the exception, not the rule

and even then they don't surpass games like crysis or Empire Total warkolkov01

See above where Adrien_Cloud said "However you cut the cake, PS3 exclusives look better than the majority of PC games coming out.". This is true. Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 do indeed look better than the vast majority of console and PC games both released and upcoming. Overall, technically and aesthetically, the general conensus is that KZ2 and Uncharted 2 are in the top tier for "this gen". If you don't wanna take my word for it then go read up on reviews.

Also, PC graphics aren't eons ahead of console graphics anymore. Consoles have been holding their own this gen, especially considering the aged technology devs have to work with.

lets not talk about UC2 and KZ2 having superior 'technical graphics'... that shows how little you know

the PC is and will always be technically superior... it can reach resolutions far higher than what current HDTVs can even dream of...

"PC graphics aren't eons ahead of console graphics anymore"

actually, the more time goes by the more superior pc hardware becomes while 'current-gen' console hardware stays the same, of course...

are you sure you know at least a little of what youre talking about?

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lets not talk about UC2 and KZ2 having superior 'technical graphics'... that shows how little you know

the PC is and will always be technically superior... it can reach resolutions far higher than what current HDTVs can even dream of...

"PC graphics aren't eons ahead of console graphics anymore"

actually, the more time goes by the more superior pc hardware becomes while 'current-gen' console hardware stays the same, of course...

are you sure you know at least a little of what youre talking about?

ogvampire

How does not talking about UC2 and KZ2 show how little I know, and are you saying UC2 and KZ2 aren't impressive from a technical standpoint? If that's the case then you would be wrong.

For the rest of your post the technical aspects of visuals only go so far, and graphics aren't all about them. Impressive visuals this day in time usually come from a balnced mix of technical side and aesthetics. If it were all about the technical side the 99-Nights ,during it's time of release, would've took the graphics king crown because it had far more enemies on screen than any other game.

Hate it or love it, PC graphics do not blow away console graphics. Technically, a few select titles may be a good bit ahead, but nothing on PC blows away console graphics. Why this is so widely believed...I don't know. KZ2 and UC2 are in the top tier for consoles and PC.

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#209 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

lets not talk about UC2 and KZ2 having superior 'technical graphics'... that shows how little you know

the PC is and will always be technically superior... it can reach resolutions far higher than what current HDTVs can even dream of...

"PC graphics aren't eons ahead of console graphics anymore"

actually, the more time goes by the more superior pc hardware becomes while 'current-gen' console hardware stays the same, of course...

are you sure you know at least a little of what youre talking about?

killab2oo5

How does not talking about UC2 and KZ2 show how little I know, and are you saying UC2 and KZ2 aren't impressive from a technical standpoint? If that's the case then you would be wrong.

For the rest of your post the technical aspects of visuals only go so far, and graphics aren't all about them. Impressive visuals this day in time usually come from a balnced mix of technical side and aesthetics. If it were all about the technical side the 99-Nights ,during it's time of release, would've took the graphics king crown because it had far more enemies on screen than any other game.

Hate it or love it, PC graphics do not blow away console graphics. Technically, a few select titles may be a good bit ahead, but nothing on PC blows away console graphics. Why this is so widely believed...I don't know. KZ2 and UC2 are in the top tier for consoles and PC.

no, im talking 'technical graphics' as in resolution, AA, etc.... something that consoles are LACKING (except for 360, i think it does 2xAA). its a fact, doesnt matter what you say

"but nothing on PC blows away console graphics"

wow... just wow.... 'nuff said right there :|

im tired of trying to make a blind person see reality. good day

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#210 Unforgiven2870
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

i think your statement is missing 1 key word there to make it a fact:

"Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 are easily in the top tier graphically, and look better than majority of CONSOLE games out there"

killab2oo5

Except that only 2 PS3 exclusives, which would make them the exception, not the rule

and even then they don't surpass games like crysis or Empire Total warkolkov01

See above where Adrien_Cloud said "However you cut the cake, PS3 exclusives look better than the majority of PC games coming out.". This is true. Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 do indeed look better than the vast majority of console and PC games both released and upcoming. Overall, technically and aesthetically, the general conensus is that KZ2 and Uncharted 2 are in the top tier for "this gen". If you don't wanna take my word for it then go read up on reviews.

Also, PC graphics aren't eons ahead of console graphics anymore. Consoles have been holding their own this gen, especially considering the aged technology devs have to work with.

Graphics are easily up there with many of the PC games coming out.

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#211 Unforgiven2870
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

i think your statement is missing 1 key word there to make it a fact:

"Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 are easily in the top tier graphically, and look better than majority of CONSOLE games out there"

killab2oo5

Except that only 2 PS3 exclusives, which would make them the exception, not the rule

and even then they don't surpass games like crysis or Empire Total warkolkov01

See above where Adrien_Cloud said "However you cut the cake, PS3 exclusives look better than the majority of PC games coming out.". This is true. Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 do indeed look better than the vast majority of console and PC games both released and upcoming. Overall, technically and aesthetically, the general conensus is that KZ2 and Uncharted 2 are in the top tier for "this gen". If you don't wanna take my word for it then go read up on reviews.

Also, PC graphics aren't eons ahead of console graphics anymore. Consoles have been holding their own this gen, especially considering the aged technology devs have to work with.

Graphics are easily up there with many of the PC games coming out.

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#212 killab2oo5
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no, im talking 'technical graphics' as in resolution, AA, etc.... something that consoles are LACKING (except for 360, i think it does 2xAA). its a fact, doesnt matter what you say

"but nothing on PC blows away console graphics"

wow... just wow.... 'nuff said right there :|

im tired of trying to make a blind person see reality. good day

ogvampire

:roll: The irony in your post is ASTOUNDING! The technical graphics are everything that isn't aesthetic. That would be AA, resolution, physics, number of enemies on screen, scale...etc. You go on about how I don't know what I'm talking about, but it seems to be the other way around.

My statement about "nothing on PC blowing away console graphics" still holds true.

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I think the problem here is some people have forgotten that there is a difference between hardware capability and utilization. Which would be quite ironic coming from a Cow, seeing how they spent a good amount of time trying to explain that to Lemmings in the PS3 early years.

I suppose the argument only counts when it is in your favour.

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#214 RichardStallman
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I now understand why these threads don't get locked; moderators are too busy laughing their asses off every day that passes.
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#215 mitu123
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I now understand why these threads don't get locked; moderators are too busy laughing their asses off every day that passes.RichardStallman
I think Sony brainwashed the cows with teh Cell being powerful and all.:P

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#216 thirdykal
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Wow.. just about 11 pages telling OP that he's wrong. Classic.
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#217 htekemerald
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I agree uncharted 2 destroys crysis when it comes to rendering 2d backgrounds.

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#218 GunSmith1_basic
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i think pc gamers have to stop bringing up crysis. That game is old news. Who plays that anymore? Before you jump down my throat for saying that, I'll admit that I can see the argument. "oh but if the ps3 can't compete with an OLD game then that's all the more pathetic", and that is true, but ps3 has been pushing itself so much since then while pc has not. Yes, yes, I get it, pc doesn't have to since it has already won, but I still say the the ps3 is producing creating more amazing and diverse visual experiences. MGS4, Demons Souls, GT5, UC2 and a few others in particular. Go ahead and stare at your beautifully rendered trees for the 25th straight month
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#219 AnnoyedDragon
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i think pc gamers have to stop bringing up crysis.GunSmith1_basic

I think there is something important you need to recognise, who created this thread? A PC or a console gamer?

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i think pc gamers have to stop bringing up crysis. That game is old news. Who plays that anymore? Before you jump down my throat for saying that, I'll admit that I can see the argument. "oh but if the ps3 can't compete with an OLD game then that's all the more pathetic", and that is true, but ps3 has been pushing itself so much since then while pc has not. Yes, yes, I get it, pc doesn't have to since it has already won, but I still say the the ps3 is producing creating more amazing and diverse visual experiences. MGS4, Demons Souls, GT5, UC2 and a few others in particular. Go ahead and stare at your beautifully rendered trees for the 25th straight monthGunSmith1_basic

Who plays killzone 2 anymore?

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#221 GunSmith1_basic
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[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]i think pc gamers have to stop bringing up crysis. That game is old news. Who plays that anymore? Before you jump down my throat for saying that, I'll admit that I can see the argument. "oh but if the ps3 can't compete with an OLD game then that's all the more pathetic", and that is true, but ps3 has been pushing itself so much since then while pc has not. Yes, yes, I get it, pc doesn't have to since it has already won, but I still say the the ps3 is producing creating more amazing and diverse visual experiences. MGS4, Demons Souls, GT5, UC2 and a few others in particular. Go ahead and stare at your beautifully rendered trees for the 25th straight monthYankees718

Who plays killzone 2 anymore?

lol you are playing right into my point. I listed games that were made since then, games that are coming out now, and games that are coming out in the near future. As in, there is a lot that has been happening on the ps3 and continues to happen. Pc is largely stuck on crysis and, I admit, superior multiplats. It's not about polygons though. It's about visual experiences
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#222 Yankees718
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[QUOTE="Yankees718"]

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]i think pc gamers have to stop bringing up crysis. That game is old news. Who plays that anymore? Before you jump down my throat for saying that, I'll admit that I can see the argument. "oh but if the ps3 can't compete with an OLD game then that's all the more pathetic", and that is true, but ps3 has been pushing itself so much since then while pc has not. Yes, yes, I get it, pc doesn't have to since it has already won, but I still say the the ps3 is producing creating more amazing and diverse visual experiences. MGS4, Demons Souls, GT5, UC2 and a few others in particular. Go ahead and stare at your beautifully rendered trees for the 25th straight monthGunSmith1_basic

Who plays killzone 2 anymore?

lol you are playing right into my point. I listed games that were made since then, games that are coming out now, and games that are coming out in the near future. As in, there is a lot that has been happening on the ps3 and continues to happen. Pc is largely stuck on crysis and, I admit, superior multiplats. It's not about polygons though. It's about visual experiences

Ummm....Killzone 2 came AFTER mgs4....

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#225 GunSmith1_basic
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[QUOTE="Yankees718"]

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"][QUOTE="Yankees718"]

Who plays killzone 2 anymore?

lol you are playing right into my point. I listed games that were made since then, games that are coming out now, and games that are coming out in the near future. As in, there is a lot that has been happening on the ps3 and continues to happen. Pc is largely stuck on crysis and, I admit, superior multiplats. It's not about polygons though. It's about visual experiences

Ummm....Killzone 2 came AFTER mgs4....

i'm lost here. your point?
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a console gamer, and specifically a ps3 gamer. He/she is probably biased but has an interesting pointGunSmith1_basic

My point is you are criticising PC gamers for something console gamers are largely responsible for.

Stick "Crysis Vs" in the SW search engine and who is responsible for the majority of those threads?

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[QUOTE="Yankees718"]

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]i think pc gamers have to stop bringing up crysis. That game is old news. Who plays that anymore? Before you jump down my throat for saying that, I'll admit that I can see the argument. "oh but if the ps3 can't compete with an OLD game then that's all the more pathetic", and that is true, but ps3 has been pushing itself so much since then while pc has not. Yes, yes, I get it, pc doesn't have to since it has already won, but I still say the the ps3 is producing creating more amazing and diverse visual experiences. MGS4, Demons Souls, GT5, UC2 and a few others in particular. Go ahead and stare at your beautifully rendered trees for the 25th straight monthGunSmith1_basic

Who plays killzone 2 anymore?

lol you are playing right into my point. I listed games that were made since then, games that are coming out now, and games that are coming out in the near future. As in, there is a lot that has been happening on the ps3 and continues to happen. Pc is largely stuck on crysis and, I admit, superior multiplats. It's not about polygons though. It's about visual experiences

STALKER Clear Sky, Empire Total War, Arma II aren't visual experiences?
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#228 GunSmith1_basic
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[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"][QUOTE="Yankees718"]

Who plays killzone 2 anymore?

AAllxxjjnn

lol you are playing right into my point. I listed games that were made since then, games that are coming out now, and games that are coming out in the near future. As in, there is a lot that has been happening on the ps3 and continues to happen. Pc is largely stuck on crysis and, I admit, superior multiplats. It's not about polygons though. It's about visual experiences

STALKER Clear Sky, Empire Total War, Arma II aren't visual experiences?

I must admit I have not played those games but I hope I can fairly say that those games are impressive but not referrenced often for a reason.

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#229 GunSmith1_basic
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[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]a console gamer, and specifically a ps3 gamer. He/she is probably biased but has an interesting pointAnnoyedDragon

My point is you are criticising PC gamers for something console gamers are largely responsible for.

Stick "Crysis Vs" in the SW search engine and who is responsible for the majority of those threads?

no I'm pretty certain that crysis is the singular game that pc gamers bring up all the time. On this forum and in real world. That's why it's attacked so often and compared to other things so often. A lot of that is deserved, but I think it's time is through. It's like when people criticize the wii and then a defender brings up Galaxy. I loved that game but it's finished now
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#230 kemar7856
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pc is capable of graphics far beyond concoles the problem is no devs so all pc gets a concole ports

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#231 tikki25x
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]a console gamer, and specifically a ps3 gamer. He/she is probably biased but has an interesting pointGunSmith1_basic

My point is you are criticising PC gamers for something console gamers are largely responsible for.

Stick "Crysis Vs" in the SW search engine and who is responsible for the majority of those threads?

no I'm pretty certain that crysis is the singular game that pc gamers bring up all the time. On this forum and in real world. That's why it's attacked so often and compared to other things so often. A lot of that is deserved, but I think it's time is through. It's like when people criticize the wii and then a defender brings up Galaxy. I loved that game but it's finished now

i think the reason its compared to other games so often is honestly because it looks so damn good. and ive rarely seen hermits start a thread about the game, its usually a console gamer saying X game has the best graphics ever or X game looks better than Crysis. under those circumstances how can you blame people for bringing the game into the argument? you gotta beat the champ to be the champ as they say in boxing.

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#232 eNT1TY
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Long thread and didnt feel like reading all posts but, the only time the PC has ever passed the 'graphics baton' to the PS3 was when PC needed to take a bathroom break and it didnt want to pee on its shiny baton so it let the PS3 hold it until it finished up its business and washed its hands. Immediately after wards it proceeded to storm out of the bathroom and snatch the baton right back to sanitize the vile stench left by PS3's greasy, vaseline smeared, noAAhaving, low rez textured fingers.
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#233 tylergamereview
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I prefer the graphics threads where everyone posts Crysis pics and I get to drool over them. This one isn't very fun.
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#234 AnnoyedDragon
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no I'm pretty certain that crysis is the singular game that pc gamers bring up all the time. GunSmith1_basic

Pretty much everyone on SW will vouch for me when I say PS3 users are the main source of these topics.

I've been here, and you have probably been here, long enough to know that console users are the number one group to bring Crysis into discussion. The vast majority of Crysis threads are created by console users attempting to claim X game owns Crysis; and the majority of those are done by Cows.

Crysis is a symbol of advanced hardware power that exceeds current generation technology, therefore by surpassing it you prove your system surpasses current generation capabilities. Cows, with their Cell hype, are the number one group who aim to prove their hardware superiority by trying to surpass PC.

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Long thread and didnt feel like reading all posts but, the only time the PC has ever passed the 'graphics baton' to the PS3 was when PC needed to take a bathroom break and it didnt want to pee on its shiny baton so it let the PS3 hold it until it finished up its business and washed its hands. Immediately after wards it proceeded to storm out of the bathroom and snatch the baton right back to sanitize the vile stench left by PS3's greasy, vaseline smeared, noAAhaving, low rez textured fingers.eNT1TY
:lol: , But now continuing on here. Arguing over artistic style or how a game plays is one thing, but people try to compare a game that can use 2x-4x the processing power of what any of consoles can do and can actually show it and that its using the 512mb video card and 3 gb of ram. Theres no way the consoles can compete, because the game/s can use more resources on Pc which allows more dertail, graphics, bigger maps/levels to be used and seen, while the consoles hold developers back in what they can do in terms of limited resources.