HEAVY RAIN: The best graphics ever!!!

The real world isn't that shiny.Real eyeballs aren't so white. Heavy Rain is more realistic.

hakanakumono

Oh boy...

they are close but look at the detail on the eyebrows for crysis. and even the eye ball looks better. if heavy rain is so good why isnt the eyeball properly reflective and shiney. the hair also has a realistic gloss/shine in the crysis pic

blues35301

Yes, the textures are better on Crysis. That's about it. Take a good look at the model, she looks like a hard-carved wax model.

Maybe it's the power of suggestion, but the Heavy Rain character model looks to have a more complex muscle feature than Half Life 2, let alone Crysis.

And sorry, but dude people's eyes don't shine as brightly as they do in the Crysis pic unless they're very watery. I should know, I stare at myself in the mirror for hours on end.

Second, girls don't dress like you. Thus, they don't put on layers of gel on their head to make themselves look like sun reflectors.

I don't know why people are still comparing that girl from Crysis. She was the worst offender in the game that looked like some sort of walking, talking Barbie doll. It's interesting that no game released thus far has truly surpassed Half Life 2 in animation, especially facial animation.

I think Heavy Rain might be a favourite to usurp the throne.

FrozenLiquid

I agree with everyting you said but the halflife part I haven't played that game.

[QUOTE="blues35301"][QUOTE="Kez1984"] [QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

That looks better than both of them.

hakanakumono

You guy's crack me up. Right click to see the full sized image. The texture's look patchy. Poetically on the coloured lady.

[QUOTE="Cedmln"][QUOTE="blues35301"][QUOTE="Cedmln"][QUOTE="footfoe2"][QUOTE="Cedmln"][QUOTE="blues35301"]

blues35301

No. I'm the one who posted the messege asking for osmeone to show me a close up screenshot of a female character in crysis and it clearly doesn't look as good as the character in Heavy Rain. Thats why i said "I win".

way to spin. if you didnt read my reply to you if there are reasons you think it looks worse than the heavy rain close up i explained why. its the best close up you can get in the game cuz the only thing you can use is the binocs. and imo it still looks better and more lifelike than the heavy rain pics that were taken by devs and probably doctored like all pre-release game screenshots. but the fact is that crysis pic was taken on a pc moments ago during gameplay

Uh no. You can clearly see that she doesn't have nearly as many polygons and the textures on her face aren't nearly as good and her eyes look way blurry compared the Heavy Rain's character.

I win. End of story. Has nothing to do with what you were doing with those stupid goggles in the game.

you're just ignorant.

Indeed. If you put the images hue/contrast/brightness to something kinda equal'ish (not exact of couse), it becomes even more apparent. And this is even with those scan-lines cutting through her face.

Other than the eye's, the textures look wishy washy.

they are close but look at the detail on the eyebrows for crysis. and even the eye ball looks better. if heavy rain is so good why isnt the eyeball properly reflective and shiney. the hair also has a realistic gloss/shine in the crysis pic

The real world isn't that shiny.Real eyeballs aren't so white. Heavy Rain is more realistic.

yea actually they are. eyeballs are at least and white as well if youre in good lighting. the heavy rain pic looks like a really really detailed painting. its soft. the crysis pic looks like a photo. its sharper

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Iceman2911

heavy rain looks more real than crysis and I am not just talking about the graphics.

you have never played indigo prophency to even unstand heavy rain and I don't think you even played crysis on high settings.

alright since you want to be a fanboy name me a 360 exclusive that looks better than heavy rain or killzone2.

I don't know why people are still comparing that girl from Crysis. She was the worst offender in the game that looked like some sort of walking, talking Barbie doll. It's interesting that no game released thus far has truly surpassed Half Life 2 in animation, especially facial animation.

I think Heavy Rain might be a favourite to usurp the throne.

FrozenLiquid

That isn't the main female charecter.

Ed: chop yout qoutes down people, you will get mod'd.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

The real world isn't that shiny.Real eyeballs aren't so white. Heavy Rain is more realistic.

Kez1984

Oh boy...

This is true. Your eyes are shiny, to an extent. But not to the extent that is displayed in that screenshot. They are also not perfect white.

I used to believe that Crysis was graphically superior, but I guess I should have looked at the screenshots of Crysis more carefully rather than just believing hype.

[QUOTE="Iceman2911"]

heavy rain still looks better.

Kez1984

Yea, yea you can keep saying that till the cows come home wont change facts.

what facts you showed off two pics and heavy rain looked better than both you don't have to be a cow to see that.

[QUOTE="blues35301"]

they are close but look at the detail on the eyebrows for crysis. and even the eye ball looks better. if heavy rain is so good why isnt the eyeball properly reflective and shiney. the hair also has a realistic gloss/shine in the crysis pic

FrozenLiquid

Yes, the textures are better on Crysis. That's about it. Take a good look at the model, she looks like a hard-carved wax model.

Maybe it's the power of suggestion, but the Heavy Rain character model looks to have a more complex muscle feature than Half Life 2, let alone Crysis.

And sorry, but dude people's eyes don't shine as brightly as they do in the Crysis pic unless they're very watery. I should know, I stare at myself in the mirror for hours on end.

Second, girls don't dress like you. Thus, they don't put on layers of gel on their head to make themselves look like sun reflectors.

what? its not hair gel shiney. it just looks like real hair. havent you seen like pantene pro v commercials with the hair falling all over lol. it looks exactly like that

what?! are you insane. plenty of games surpassed hl2 on facial animations and crysis is one of htem have you even played the game? watch how she talks and moves during cut scenes well basically all the characters. even mass effect has better facial animations than hl2. gta4 as well

blues35301

Yeah I played the game. I played it on release, gave it my FPS GOTY 2007 and haven't touched it since.

No, Crysis's animation is prety bloody stiff, especially in the face. Most devs seem to just concentrate on moving the muscles surrounding the mouth, when it fact all the muscles in the face react when you move your lips. Crysis is part of that majority.

Mass Effect had potential, but decided to model all their characters on Keanu Reeves.

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Kez, I will watch the gameplay trailers now.

[QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

The real world isn't that shiny.Real eyeballs aren't so white. Heavy Rain is more realistic.

hakanakumono

Oh boy...

This is true. Your eyes are shiny, to an extent. But not to the extent that is displayed in that screenshot. They are also not perfect white.

I used to believe that Crysis was graphically superior, but I guess I should have looked at the screenshots of Crysis more carefully rather than just believing hype.

youre falling into hype just towards heavy rain. waht are cows just waiting for a console game to come out to top crysis and when anything looks great they just beat it to death in a topic and ignore all crysis pictures posted and claim "x game" still looks better? this has happened numerous times with many games in the past. heres the turn out. crysis > all at least til the end of this gen.

This is true. Your eyes are shiny, to an extent. But not to the extent that is displayed in that screenshot. They are also not perfect white.

hakanakumono

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="blues35301"]

they are close but look at the detail on the eyebrows for crysis. and even the eye ball looks better. if heavy rain is so good why isnt the eyeball properly reflective and shiney. the hair also has a realistic gloss/shine in the crysis pic

blues35301

Yes, the textures are better on Crysis. That's about it. Take a good look at the model, she looks like a hard-carved wax model.

Maybe it's the power of suggestion, but the Heavy Rain character model looks to have a more complex muscle feature than Half Life 2, let alone Crysis.

And sorry, but dude people's eyes don't shine as brightly as they do in the Crysis pic unless they're very watery. I should know, I stare at myself in the mirror for hours on end.

Second, girls don't dress like you. Thus, they don't put on layers of gel on their head to make themselves look like sun reflectors.

what? its not hair gel shiney. it just looks like real hair. havent you seen like pantene pro v commercials with the hair falling all over lol. it looks exactly like that

I've yet to see anyone's hair look like that in real life.

what? its not hair gel shiney. it just looks like real hair. havent you seen like pantene pro v commercials with the hair falling all over lol. it looks exactly like that

blues35301

Yeah, I do those hair commercials.

It's called post-production. Put it through Photoshop et al and they turn out ultra-shiny. The actual models don't have hair as shiny as that on raw footage, and that's even when they have a three point light set up.

Then again, just look at your sister or mother and look at their hair to see the real thing.

Ed: chop yout qoutes down people, you will get mod'd.

Kez1984

I knew I was seeing double in the game. Haven't played it in ages.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

The real world isn't that shiny.Real eyeballs aren't so white. Heavy Rain is more realistic.

blues35301

Oh boy...

This is true. Your eyes are shiny, to an extent. But not to the extent that is displayed in that screenshot. They are also not perfect white.

I used to believe that Crysis was graphically superior, but I guess I should have looked at the screenshots of Crysis more carefully rather than just believing hype.

youre falling into hype just towards heavy rain. waht are cows just waiting for a console game to come out to top crysis and when anything looks great they just beat it to death in a topic and ignore all crysis pictures posted and claim "x game" still looks better? this has happened numerous times with many games in the past. heres the turn out. crysis > all at least til the end of this gen.

I'm not falling into heavy rain hype. I might not even get the game, because what I've heard ... its compromised of quick time events ... and I HATED that portion of RE4.

I'm sorry, but with all of the screenshots posted, Heavy Rain has looked visually superior to Crysis.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

This is true. Your eyes are shiny, to an extent. But not to the extent that is displayed in that screenshot. They are also not perfect white.

Kez1984

Yes, when different light sources of different types and strenghs hit something it's always the same. This is science.:?

The only way I can think of the character realistically being shiny the way she is, is with an ultra bright light source pointed directly towards her face.

The lighting hits the Heavy Rain character's face more realistically.

Wow, this must suck for PC gamers. Console games are starting to visually look better than PC games.

Some of them, at least.

[QUOTE="blues35301"]

what? its not hair gel shiney. it just looks like real hair. havent you seen like pantene pro v commercials with the hair falling all over lol. it looks exactly like that

FrozenLiquid

Yeah, I do those hair commercials.

It's called post-production. Put it through Photoshop et al and they turn out ultra-shiny. The actual models don't have hair as shiny as that on raw footage, and that's even when they have a three point light set up.

Then again, just look at your sister or mother and look at their hair to see the real thing.

Ed: chop yout qoutes down people, you will get mod'd.

Kez1984

I knew I was seeing double in the game. Haven't played it in ages.

i dont believe you for some reason. and for 2 not to sound racist or anything but she is asian. asians have really dark hair that has a little shine to it in certain light. i notice this on one of my best friends just about every day her hair is like really shiney. it does happen in the real world is all im saying

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

This is true. Your eyes are shiny, to an extent. But not to the extent that is displayed in that screenshot. They are also not perfect white.

Kez1984

Yes, when different light sources of different types and strenghs hit something it's always the same. This is science.:?

But it doesn't get that shiny, especially in a naturalistic jungle setting. Unless she's got a speck in her eye, or she's on the verge of getting emotional (none of which look the case), it shouldn't be like that.

Then again all entertainment mediums exaggerate features.

Wow, this must suck for PC gamers. Console games are starting to visually look better than PC games.

Some of them, at least.

hakanakumono

i really dont think so. this is just ignorance. put into this context and its sig worthy although in a sig it would then be out of context with this topic.

The lighting hits the Heavy Rain character's face more realistically.

hakanakumono

By that you mean, she has more of a direct light and the prior's is diffuse? Or is it just like how eye's are shiny? lol

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="blues35301"]

what? its not hair gel shiney. it just looks like real hair. havent you seen like pantene pro v commercials with the hair falling all over lol. it looks exactly like that

blues35301

Yeah, I do those hair commercials.

It's called post-production. Put it through Photoshop et al and they turn out ultra-shiny. The actual models don't have hair as shiny as that on raw footage, and that's even when they have a three point light set up.

Then again, just look at your sister or mother and look at their hair to see the real thing.

Ed: chop yout qoutes down people, you will get mod'd.

Kez1984

I knew I was seeing double in the game. Haven't played it in ages.

i dont believe you for some reason. and for 2 not to sound racist or anything but she is asian. asians have really dark hair that has a little shine to it in certain light. i notice this on one of my best friends just about every day her hair is like really shiney. it does happen in the real world is all im saying

I didn't notice anything wrong with her hair, myself, but her eyes are shiny like that of an anime character. It's not realistic.

And yeah, I've noticed that asians can have very shiny hair myself.

But it doesn't get that shiny,

FrozenLiquid

According to your buddy there, they are too shiny.

you have never played indigo prophency to even unstand heavy rain and I don't think you even played crysis on high settings.

alright since you want to be a fanboy name me a 360 exclusive that looks better than heavy rain or killzone2.

because exclusives can show off the power of consoles instead of multiplats and killzone 2 and heavy rain are the best looking exclusives on consoles so far.

[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="Iceman2911"][

Iceman2911

you have never played indigo prophency to even unstand heavy rain and I don't think you even played crysis on high settings.

alright since you want to be a fanboy name me a 360 exclusive that looks better than heavy rain or killzone2.

because exclusives can show off the power of consoles instead of multiplats and killzone 2 and heavy rain are the best looking exclusives on consoles so far.

i dont believe you for some reason. and for 2 not to sound racist or anything but she is asian. asians have really dark hair that has a little shine to it in certain light. i notice this on one of my best friends just about every day her hair is like really shiney. it does happen in the real world is all im saying

blues35301

Yeah, coz we're on a video games forum. What's a director doing on a video games forum, I wonder? Don't believe me mate, coz as I tell every other forum hater out there, I really don't care. I'm doing my thing, and so is the Sun, whether you believe in our existence or not.

And no, it doesn't get that shiny. Dude I work with photography on a daily basis, I think I know what I'm talking about.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

The lighting hits the Heavy Rain character's face more realistically.

Kez1984

By that you mean, she has more of a direct light and the prior's is diffuse? Or is it just like how eye's are shiny? lol

I mean that the light hits the face in Crysis like her face is perfectly flat. Now, its true that some asians have flatter faces, but it also highlights how her face is modeled in such a way that it doesn't look real (No cheek bones!?)

I also mean the eyes. They shouldn't be that shiny.

lol what i find funny about this threas that first cows were saying KZ2> Crysis..since that doesnt work anymore HR>Crysis..lets see when that doesnt work what they will use lol.MojondeVACA

I don't know any cow who said kz2 looked better than crysis.

I mean that the light hits the face in Crysis like her face is perfectly flat. Now, its true that some asians have flatter faces, but it also highlights how her face is modeled in such a way that it doesn't look real (No cheek bones!?)

I also mean the eyes. They shouldn't be that shiny.

hakanakumono

Oh boy.

Stop.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

I mean that the light hits the face in Crysis like her face is perfectly flat. Now, its true that some asians have flatter faces, but it also highlights how her face is modeled in such a way that it doesn't look real (No cheek bones!?)

I also mean the eyes. They shouldn't be that shiny.

Kez1984

Oh boy.

Stop.

Pretending to be smarter by not coming up with an actual response doesn't work.

(It doesn't help that you're arguing with a photographer as well).

[QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

I mean that the light hits the face in Crysis like her face is perfectly flat. Now, its true that some asians have flatter faces, but it also highlights how her face is modeled in such a way that it doesn't look real (No cheek bones!?)

I also mean the eyes. They shouldn't be that shiny.

hakanakumono

Oh boy.

Stop.

Pretending to be smarter by not coming up with an actual response doesn't work.

When your using racial stereotyping to explain how light works, I really don't "need" to pretend.

Pick up an art by a guy called Hogarth called "dynamic light and shade".

You will find light tend to operate beyond shiny, flat and Asain people.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

I mean that the light hits the face in Crysis like her face is perfectly flat. Now, its true that some asians have flatter faces, but it also highlights how her face is modeled in such a way that it doesn't look real (No cheek bones!?)

I also mean the eyes. They shouldn't be that shiny.

Kez1984

Oh boy.

Stop.

Pretending to be smarter by not coming up with an actual response doesn't work.

When your using racial stereotyping to explain how light works, I really don't "need" to pretend.

Pick up an art by a guy called Hogarth called "dynamic light and shade".

You will find light tend to operate beyond shiny, flat and Asain people.

not only that but it was nitpicky as hell. wow the character was modeled with subtle cheekbones so the light hits it differently creating different shadows. is that a graphical flaw? no its grasping for straws.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

I mean that the light hits the face in Crysis like her face is perfectly flat. Now, its true that some asians have flatter faces, but it also highlights how her face is modeled in such a way that it doesn't look real (No cheek bones!?)

I also mean the eyes. They shouldn't be that shiny.

Kez1984

Oh boy.

Stop.

Pretending to be smarter by not coming up with an actual response doesn't work.

When your using racial stereotyping to explain how light works, I really don't "need" to pretend.

Pick up an art by a guy called Hogarth called "dynamic light and shade".

You will find light tend to operate beyond shiny, flat and Asain people.

I'm not using racial stereotyping.

I also wasn't using it to explain how light works. Read my post. I said that light doesn't hit your face full on like that, despite the stereotype that asian faces are perfectly flat.

Different races do have different bone strucutres though. You do know that right?

Edit: I didn't remember it quite right. I just looked at it again and the light doesn't hit her face full on. However, she does seem to lack cheek bones.

I also wasn't using it to explain how light works. Read my post. I said that light doesn't hit your face full on like that, despite the stereotype that asian faces are perfectly flat.

hakanakumono

Am I actually going to have to sit here and type out a post to you explaining the basics of light? Please don't make me do this.

Stop.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

I also wasn't using it to explain how light works. Read my post. I said that light doesn't hit your face full on like that, despite the stereotype that asian faces are perfectly flat.

Kez1984

Am I actually going to have to sit here and type out a post to you explaining the basics of light? Please don't make me do this.

Stop.

The light hits her face right, but it reveals her lack of cheek bones.

It doesn't hit her eyes right.

[QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

I also wasn't using it to explain how light works. Read my post. I said that light doesn't hit your face full on like that, despite the stereotype that asian faces are perfectly flat.

hakanakumono

Am I actually going to have to sit here and type out a post to you explaining the basics of light? Please don't make me do this.

Stop.

The light hits her face right, but it reveals her lack of cheek bones.

It doesn't hit her eyes right.

Do you know from where the source of light is coming from?

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

I also wasn't using it to explain how light works. Read my post. I said that light doesn't hit your face full on like that, despite the stereotype that asian faces are perfectly flat.

wklzip

Am I actually going to have to sit here and type out a post to you explaining the basics of light? Please don't make me do this.

Stop.

The light hits her face right, but it reveals her lack of cheek bones.

It doesn't hit her eyes right.

Do you know from where the source of light is coming from?

Oh Christ, you will make his head explode.

While we are at it, is that a reflected light source? Like how the sun's light hit's the moon and reflect's back to the earth at a much less intensity? Is there one light source? Is there two? Is there three? Or is it shiny eye's flat faced Asain people?

[QUOTE="wklzip"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

I also wasn't using it to explain how light works. Read my post. I said that light doesn't hit your face full on like that, despite the stereotype that asian faces are perfectly flat.

Kez1984

Am I actually going to have to sit here and type out a post to you explaining the basics of light? Please don't make me do this.

Stop.

The light hits her face right, but it reveals her lack of cheek bones.

It doesn't hit her eyes right.

Do you know from where the source of light is coming from?

Oh Christ, you will make his head explode.

While we are at it, is that a reflected light source? Like how the sun's light hit's the moon and reflect's back to the earth at a much less intensity? Is there one light source? Is there two? Is there three? Na, it's shiny eye's flat faced Asain people.

I understand that there may be multiple light sources. Thats why there are multiply shiny lights in her eye. But it should hit her eyes like that. Its too magnified. Like the photographer said, her eyes would have to be very watery for her eyes to be that reflective (The white of the eye is also reflecting a lot of light, which it should not be doing unless she is about to cry).

I understand that there may be multiple light sources. Thats why there are multiply shiny lights in her eye. But it should hit her eyes like that. Its too magnified. Like the photographer said, her eyes would have to be very watery for her eyes to be that reflective.

hakanakumono

Light travels in a straight direction, it could simply be, it's not reaching a part of her pupil wich slightly extends out the eye like alittle bump, it's not a smooth circle. You can also see the light's highlight wich is another indication. It could also be, the light hitting one side of her eye is acting as a reflective light. As in, light, hitting a suface, creates another light on that surface. Stop.

This is the last reply you are getting. Please. Stop. Just stop.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

I understand that there may be multiple light sources. Thats why there are multiply shiny lights in her eye. But it should hit her eyes like that. Its too magnified. Like the photographer said, her eyes would have to be very watery for her eyes to be that reflective.

Kez1984

Light travels in a straight direction, it could simply be, it's not reaching a part of her pupil wich slightly extends out the eye like alittle bump, it's not a smooth circle. You can also see the light's highlight wich is another indication. It could also be, the light hitting one side of her eye is acting as a reflective light. As in, light, hitting a suface, creates another light on that surface. Stop.

This is the last reply you are getting. Please. Stop. Just stop.

Yes, I'm aware of the shape of the eye. The eye is still not that reflective.

I'm not saying that her eyes should not be relfective. You're misunderstanding.

Her eyes should simply not reflect that amoutn of light. It's too bright.

You can choose to respond or not to respond if you want to. But you've been misunderstanding. Its not that light isn't capable of hitting her eyes, nor is it that eyes don't reflect light. They simply do not reflect light like that. It's exaggerated.

Wow that looks so beautiful and stunning. This is my most anticipated game. Not only is it something really different but it looks amazing as well.

Wow that looks so beautiful and stunning. This is my most anticipated game. Not only is it something really different but it looks amazing as well.

tubbyc

play indigo prophecy

Ahem.

GamePro suck anyway.

Wait, do the binoculars magnify light? I'm beggining to get the impression that the binoculars are messing up the lighting.

Maybe thats why she's overly shiny.

Wait, do the binoculars magnify light? I'm beggining to get the impression that the binoculars are messing up the lighting.

Maybe thats why she's overly shiny.

hakanakumono

idk but i did forget to mention that when you use them in game it does make everything more grainy, blurry and seems to make aliasing more prominent. all things that could lead to a downgraded picture there. thers like a static filter over the binocs also when you use them

Heavy Rain and Killzone own.

Heavy Rain and Killzone own.

killzowned24

Here's stalking using a modifyed game engine from 2001.

(If your own firefox right click "veiw image")

Not bad eh? Like a sexy granny.