Holly crap, the Splinter Cell demo is awful

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#1 Jason_A
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This was my most anticipated game of the year and after playing the demo, I am now not even going to buy it.

I realize that it's just the demo but it revealled enough about the game that I feel I can decide that the game will suck:

-You can't control your pace with the analog stick other than either moving fast or moving slow - completly ruins the game!

-It's all about going from cover to cover - no real opportunity to move where you want in any smooth manner.

-They got rid of the ability to press a button to focus in our your aim and now there is just a dump zoom botton option.

-Graphics are even worse than past Spinter Cell games like Double Agent!

Anyone else hugely dissapointed like me?

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#2 Anjunaddict
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Anyone else hugely dissapointed like me?Jason_A
Yup :(
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#3 jethrovegas
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Yeah, it really, really, sucks. Such a long fall from the glory days of Chaos Theory.

Hell, Double Agent was much better; do you know how sad that is?

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I wouldn't say awful, but I found the control scheme totally unintuitive and it didn't teach you how to play it very well. I didn't even play through the demo all the way. I was kind of pressed for time so I don't know if it was just that, but I was expecting much tighter controls from the new and improved, actiony SC.
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#5 Arach666
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It wasn´t bad but not what I was expecting.

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#6 Hahadouken
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Yeah, it really, really, sucks. Such a long fall from the glory days of Chaos Theory.

Hell, Double Agent was much better; do you know how sad that is?

jethrovegas
Eh, I think SC and SCPT are the glory days of SC. Solo ops as Sam, pure stealth.
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This was my most anticipated game of the year and after playing the demo, I am now not even going to buy it.

I realize that it's just the demo but it revealled enough about the game that I feel I can decide that the game will suck:

-You can't control your pace with the analog stick other than either moving fast or moving slow - completly ruins the game!

-It's all about going from cover to cover - no real opportunity to move where you want in any smooth manner.

-They got rid of the ability to press a button to focus in our your aim and now there is just a dump zoom botton option.

-Graphics are even worse than past Spinter Cell games like Double Agent!

Anyone else hugely dissapointed like me?

Jason_A

Can anyone confirm any of this? It sounds to bad to be true.

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#8 xsubtownerx
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very disappointed. Fast paced action is not what Splinter Cell is about..
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#9 chikenfriedrice
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it's just a demo....it gave me a good feeling about the game I still am hyped for it...that was just a small taste idk what u were expecting

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#10 chikenfriedrice
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very disappointed. Fast paced action is not what Splinter Cell is about..xsubtownerx

the beauty is u don't have to play it fast paced...there are many ways to play thru that demo

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#11 Sollet
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I think Ubisoft has watched too many Bourne movies lately :P
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#12 doobie1975
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[QUOTE="Jason_A"]

This was my most anticipated game of the year and after playing the demo, I am now not even going to buy it.

I realize that it's just the demo but it revealled enough about the game that I feel I can decide that the game will suck:

-You can't control your pace with the analog stick other than either moving fast or moving slow - completly ruins the game!

-It's all about going from cover to cover - no real opportunity to move where you want in any smooth manner.

-They got rid of the ability to press a button to focus in our your aim and now there is just a dump zoom botton option.

-Graphics are even worse than past Spinter Cell games like Double Agent!

Anyone else hugely dissapointed like me?

CannedWorms

Can anyone confirm any of this? It sound to bad to be true.

these are the same people who would be calling it a rehash if it had not changed enough. there just never happy
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#13 jethrovegas
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[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Yeah, it really, really, sucks. Such a long fall from the glory days of Chaos Theory.

Hell, Double Agent was much better; do you know how sad that is?

Hahadouken

Eh, I think SC and SCPT are the glory days of SC. Solo ops as Sam, pure stealth.

Chaos Theory's level design pisses all over SC/PT, in my estimation.

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This flopping would be a bombshell on SW. Can't wait.. :D

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#15 Lto_thaG
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It didn't deliver,but it's a demo..There's a small chance I'll get it when it hits the bin.
Yay for not being able to rent games.

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#16 FIipMode
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This flopping would be a bombshell on SW. Can't wait.. :D

NielsNL
What's the hype for this anyway?
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#17 G-O-M-J
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I didnt like it at first but after a few more playthroughs i've changed my mind, its much more streamlined and you can approach situations in any way you want. Its not as good as i was anticipating but i think it will still be a great game.
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#18 Arach666
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It didn't deliver,but it's a demo..There's a small chance I'll get it when it hits the bin.
Yay for not being able to rent games.

Lto_thaG

Yeah,I can´t rent games here as well. We must be neighbours:D

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[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]very disappointed. Fast paced action is not what Splinter Cell is about..chikenfriedrice

the beauty is u don't have to play it fast paced...there are many ways to play thru that demo

With half-assed stealth mechanics...something SC should NOT have.
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#20 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

It didn't deliver,but it's a demo..There's a small chance I'll get it when it hits the bin.
Yay for not being able to rent games.

Arach666

Yeah,I can´t rent games here as well. We must be neighbours:D

Where you from?

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#21 jobo030
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yup im a bit bummed after the demo but i have faith that the whole game will be better

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#22 Hahadouken
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[QUOTE="Jason_A"]

This was my most anticipated game of the year and after playing the demo, I am now not even going to buy it.

I realize that it's just the demo but it revealled enough about the game that I feel I can decide that the game will suck:

-You can't control your pace with the analog stick other than either moving fast or moving slow - completly ruins the game!

-It's all about going from cover to cover - no real opportunity to move where you want in any smooth manner.

-They got rid of the ability to press a button to focus in our your aim and now there is just a dump zoom botton option.

-Graphics are even worse than past Spinter Cell games like Double Agent!

Anyone else hugely dissapointed like me?

CannedWorms

Can anyone confirm any of this? It sounds to bad to be true.

Besides his personal opinions like "ruins the game", yes, it's true. :( I found the controls to be totally unintuitive, but I didn't spend enough time with it to give it a fair shake. Unfortunate, this is one of the games I bought my 360 for after seeing it at last E3.
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#23 Supabul
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It's happening again, Capcom took everything awesome about Resident Evil and turned into a action game, Ubisoft is doing the same you had to plan and use you gadgets to survive in Splinter Cell, remember using sticky camera's to scope out an area because running and gunning wasn't going to work,now I can just shoot my way through the level its easy why bother with any of the cool s**t why bother hiding. Being in stealth is an option now in previous games it was necessary to be as quiet as could be.

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#24 killzowned24
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im surprised they were confident in releasing a demo. RIP sam
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#25 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

It didn't deliver,but it's a demo..There's a small chance I'll get it when it hits the bin.
Yay for not being able to rent games.

Lto_thaG

Yeah,I can´t rent games here as well. We must be neighbours:D

Where you from?

From Portugal.

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#26 Lto_thaG
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From Portugal.

Arach666


Quite the walk,from Belgium.I think this is the most stupid thing,you know,not being able to rent games.

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#27 Sollet
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

From Portugal.

Lto_thaG


Quite the walk,from Belgium.I think this is the most stupid thing,you know,not being able to rent games.

Can't rent em here either (Sweden). Really stupid.

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#28 2mrw
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This flopping would be a bombshell on SW. Can't wait.. :D

NielsNL
i lol'd , lemmings are waiting for the game, others are waiting for the flop ......... i can't wait to see what will happen
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#29 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

From Portugal.

Sollet


Quite the walk,from Belgium.I think this is the most stupid thing,you know,not being able to rent games.

Can't rent em here either (Sweden). Really stupid.

Christ,Sweden also...

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#30 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

From Portugal.

Lto_thaG


Quite the walk,from Belgium.I think this is the most stupid thing,you know,not being able to rent games.

That´s pretty far indeed.

It is stupid,although here I think it´s because the stores have to pay the publishers quite a slice and that probably wouldn´t be very profitable for them. I had one once near home,but the guy was renting illegally so he got shut down.This was a long time ago,the 16 bit gen was still on.

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#31 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

From Portugal.

Sollet


Quite the walk,from Belgium.I think this is the most stupid thing,you know,not being able to rent games.

Can't rent em here either (Sweden). Really stupid.

Damn,you guys too?

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#32 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

From Portugal.

Arach666


Quite the walk,from Belgium.I think this is the most stupid thing,you know,not being able to rent games.

That´s pretty far indeed.

It is stupid,although here I think it´s because the stores have to pay the publishers quite a slice and that probably wouldn´t be very profitable for them. I had one once near home,but the guy was renting illegally so he got shut down.This was a long time ago,the 16 bit gen was still on.

I think it's for the same reason over here.

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#33 djsifer01
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Im going to have to try it. I so want this to be a good game, you got me worried.
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This was my most anticipated game of the year and after playing the demo, I am now not even going to buy it.

I realize that it's just the demo but it revealled enough about the game that I feel I can decide that the game will suck:

-You can't control your pace with the analog stick other than either moving fast or moving slow - completly ruins the game!

-It's all about going from cover to cover - no real opportunity to move where you want in any smooth manner.

-They got rid of the ability to press a button to focus in our your aim and now there is just a dump zoom botton option.

-Graphics are even worse than past Spinter Cell games like Double Agent!

Anyone else hugely dissapointed like me?

Jason_A

Everything above is a lie

It's not even like you're describing it poorly, you just flat out lied about every single thing about the game

You can control the pace of your walk to a run depending how far you push the thumbstick

You can crouch behind any part of cover while you keep on moving through the game, you just have the option to lean against any of it so you can be still while you look around or attack

You can most certainly focus your aim and the mechanic you're talking about needs to be activated by making a stealth kill before you can use it.

The graphics are stellar with them finally having the perfect dark tones for the games with zero pixelation

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#35 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]
Quite the walk,from Belgium.I think this is the most stupid thing,you know,not being able to rent games.

Lto_thaG

That´s pretty far indeed.

It is stupid,although here I think it´s because the stores have to pay the publishers quite a slice and that probably wouldn´t be very profitable for them. I had one once near home,but the guy was renting illegally so he got shut down.This was a long time ago,the 16 bit gen was still on.

I think it's for the same reason over here.

Yeah,most likely.

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#36 Clank-PS-Snake
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It was a dissapointment but this game lost me really when they announced no spy vs merc.
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#37 hkmp5a2
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I think they should cancel this version and go back to what they were doing before. At least that was something new in regards to the series that looked pretty cool.
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[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]very disappointed. Fast paced action is not what Splinter Cell is about..Verge_6

the beauty is u don't have to play it fast paced...there are many ways to play thru that demo

With half-assed stealth mechanics...something SC should NOT have.

Seriously. Few things in gaming are as cool as the 1st time you get through a level in Splinter Cell without a single conflict, without anyone noticing... taking lights out, shimmying across pipes, just waiting... so much time just waiting, and man I loved it.
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NO!!!!! Im not gonna lie, this game was one of the reasons why I bought a 360...it looked so promising :(
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#40 joopyme
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[QUOTE="Sollet"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]
Quite the walk,from Belgium.I think this is the most stupid thing,you know,not being able to rent games.

Lto_thaG

Can't rent em here either (Sweden). Really stupid.

Christ,Sweden also...

Philippines here.

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#41 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="Sollet"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]
Quite the walk,from Belgium.I think this is the most stupid thing,you know,not being able to rent games.

Lto_thaG

Can't rent em here either (Sweden). Really stupid.

Christ,Sweden also...

Not in Norway either, and a game cost more then 120 US dollars here.

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#42 Hahadouken
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NO!!!!! Im not gonna lie, this game was one of the reasons why I bought a 360...it looked so promising :(WadeFan
Me too.
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#43 KH-mixerX
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I was pretty disappointed. But I should've expected it. I never really liked the Splinter Cell games. I really thought though that Conviction would make me a believer. I was wrong.

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To me, it felt like a hand held guided tour of Jason Bourne's greatest hits where the enemies are constantly shooting at where you were instead of where you are. Not to mention the objective projection that goes so far as to even tell you where to climb a pipe. Splinter Cell, this is not. They basically took Sam and made him into a bad copy of Jason Bourne. Hell, even the voice acting was horrible. If this was not such a serious game, I could live with that, but this is supposed to be Splinter Cell. Come on!

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#45 CaptainHarley
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[QUOTE="Jason_A"]

Anyone else hugely dissapointed like me?

Jaysonguy

Everything above is a lie

It's not even like you're describing it poorly, you just flat out lied about every single thing about the game

this guy is right, and i didnt even think it was that good. i always thought splinter cell games were pretty lame though.

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#46 _Tobli_
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Can't rent em here either (Sweden). Really stupid.

Sollet

You can't find it in Norway either i'm afraid. There used to be some good rental places here in the SNES & PS1 era.

On topic: I thought the demo was good, but i would have liked more stealth options. Which is weird because i'm usually not that into the stealth focused experiences.

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Wait a minute. Is everyone in this thread along in on the joke? I very rarely follow games but one of the few that I do keep my eyes on besides Alan Wake and Starcraft 2 was Splinter Cell. I thought they were going to nail the cinematic feel in this one and have as smooth gameplay as ever. I really hope this doesn't turn out to be another Alien vs Predator where everything leading up to the demo got you hyped only to crush the hope when it is finally released. So can I still keep my hopes up?
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#48 Jason_A
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To me, it felt like a hand held guided tour of Jason Bourne's greatest hits where the enemies are constantly shooting at where you were instead of where you are. Not to mention the objective projection that goes so far as to even tell you where to climb a pipe. Splinter Cell, this is not. They basically took Sam and made him into a bad copy of Jason Bourne. Hell, even the voice acting was horrible. If this was not such a serious game, I could live with that, but this is supposed to be Splinter Cell. Come on!

ironcreed
LOL - you're right - even the voice acting was horrible. It was so bad I just could not believe I was playing a Splinter Cell game.
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To me, it felt like a hand held guided tour of Jason Bourne's greatest hits where the enemies are constantly shooting at where you were instead of where you are. Not to mention the objective projection that goes so far as to even tell you where to climb a pipe. Splinter Cell, this is not. They basically took Sam and made him into a bad copy of Jason Bourne. Hell, even the voice acting was horrible. If this was not such a serious game, I could live with that, but this is supposed to be Splinter Cell. Come on!

ironcreed
Yeah I found the objective displays thing a little too insulting to my intelligence... if they were revealed in an artistic way, like some clever movie credits or something, I could live with it. I joked in a thread when screens were posted that there would be instructions like "CLIMB THIS PIPE"... I was obviously joking, yet I played the demo a couple days later, and no ****, it said CLIMB PIPE. Meh. Still not going to totally judge it, but the demo was rather underwhelming to say the least. I got hung up on the first piece of cover for an uncomfortably long time, it didn't explain how to get out of cover. I mashed all kinds of buttons and only one very specific action removed me from cover. It was frustrating that it didn't just realize I was stuck and flash the tutorial prompt again. Things like that turn me off of a game, but not enough to discount it. Still going to wait and see. This could be a big flop though, as I'm guessing AAA is the official hype. I would have said safe AAA just after looking at the E3 footage. Man am I naive.
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#50 Jason_A
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[QUOTE="CannedWorms"]

[QUOTE="Jason_A"]

This was my most anticipated game of the year and after playing the demo, I am now not even going to buy it.

I realize that it's just the demo but it revealled enough about the game that I feel I can decide that the game will suck:

-You can't control your pace with the analog stick other than either moving fast or moving slow - completly ruins the game!

-It's all about going from cover to cover - no real opportunity to move where you want in any smooth manner.

-They got rid of the ability to press a button to focus in our your aim and now there is just a dump zoom botton option.

-Graphics are even worse than past Spinter Cell games like Double Agent!

Anyone else hugely dissapointed like me?

Hahadouken

Can anyone confirm any of this? It sounds to bad to be true.

Besides his personal opinions like "ruins the game", yes, it's true. :( I found the controls to be totally unintuitive, but I didn't spend enough time with it to give it a fair shake. Unfortunate, this is one of the games I bought my 360 for after seeing it at last E3.

I also bought a 360 in a big part because of Splinter Cell: Conviction. I cannot express how disappointed I am.