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#101 deangallop
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The damage control in this thread is ferocious. I'm guessing those guys pre-ordered and paid in full. :lol:Hahadouken
Or perhaps we would like to play the retail copy before we completely write it off.
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#102 MonkaTG
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[QUOTE="MonkaTG"]

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"] Why? Because lems are still going to get an A+ game that maybe is disappointing but is still good? Sure, you keep feeling bad dude :wink:Anjunaddict

What? that doesn't even make sense... they're going to get a disappointing game that's still A+?... From the feedback in this thread it seems that popular opinion thinks its going to be an epic fail -_-

So yeah, i do feel bad...haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

The game is disappointing, but that doesn't make it a bad game. I think it will score A, possibly AA whereas im guessing everyone expected it to be AAA. So either way, the 360 is getting a good game so theres really nothing to feel bad about :wink:

Isn't A like a 70%? possibly AA? that sucks... doesnt make the game bad... but it doesn't make the 360 get a killer game like it was expected too. Which, if i owned a 360 and saw all the exclusives on the SONY platform i'd call that an epic fail. I wouldn't happily pay $60 for an A game or even a low AA game...

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#103 Anjunaddict
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[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"][QUOTE="MonkaTG"]

What? that doesn't even make sense... they're going to get a disappointing game that's still A+?... From the feedback in this thread it seems that popular opinion thinks its going to be an epic fail -_-

So yeah, i do feel bad...haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

MonkaTG

The game is disappointing, but that doesn't make it a bad game. I think it will score A, possibly AA whereas im guessing everyone expected it to be AAA. So either way, the 360 is getting a good game so theres really nothing to feel bad about :wink:

Isn't A like a 70%? possibly AA? that sucks... doesnt make the game bad... but it doesn't make the 360 get a killer game like it was expected too. Which, if i owned a 360 and saw all the exclusives on the SONY platform i'd call that an epic fail. I wouldn't happily pay $60 for an A game or even a low AA game...

7.0 = good. Check the ratings here on Gamespot dude, it says it right there. Im sure many people would be happy with another "good" game or possibly even "great" game. Oh, and what exclusives does Sony have coming out in April? Oh right, nothing.
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#105 MonkaTG
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[QUOTE="MonkaTG"]

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"] The game is disappointing, but that doesn't make it a bad game. I think it will score A, possibly AA whereas im guessing everyone expected it to be AAA. So either way, the 360 is getting a good game so theres really nothing to feel bad about :wink:Anjunaddict

Isn't A like a 70%? possibly AA? that sucks... doesnt make the game bad... but it doesn't make the 360 get a killer game like it was expected too. Which, if i owned a 360 and saw all the exclusives on the SONY platform i'd call that an epic fail. I wouldn't happily pay $60 for an A game or even a low AA game...

7.0 = good. Check the ratings here on Gamespot dude, it says it right there. Im sure many people would be happy with another "good" game or possibly even "great" game. Oh, and what exclusives does Sony have coming out in April? Oh right, nothing.

7.0.... like... thats the same rating as MLB 2K10 which is far far far inferior to MLB The Show sooo if MLB The Show is a great game or excellent game and MLB 2K10 is "good" than i don't want to play a "good" game as rated by GameSpot...

Overlord 2 is 7... does anyone even play or enjoy that game? Nah... but anyway... As far as April exclusives go, there's some DLC but I'm not worried about it I mean PS3 owners did get Heavy Rain, MLB 10, God Of War III, Yakuza 3, and MAG already this year. I do envy Mass Effect 2 that looks like a great game, but I would rather have those 3 than the game Splinter Cell is looking like its going to be and Mass Effect 2, to be honest.

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#106 G-O-M-J
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The damage control in this thread is ferocious. I'm guessing those guys pre-ordered and paid in full. :lol:Hahadouken
damage control? this thread is full of cry babies, waah splinter cell has changed waaaaahhh.. at least ubi are trying new things, their trying to make splinter cell better..
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#107 XboximusPrime
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lol, I stopped reading when you said it looked worse than Double Agent. Well, actually thats not true because you put it at the end of your post, so technically I would have to have read all of it to see that point, but still, the game looks way better than Double Agent, but I agree that its not that great looking. Its in 576p too.

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#108 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="MonkaTG"]

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"] The game is disappointing, but that doesn't make it a bad game. I think it will score A, possibly AA whereas im guessing everyone expected it to be AAA. So either way, the 360 is getting a good game so theres really nothing to feel bad about :wink:Anjunaddict

Isn't A like a 70%? possibly AA? that sucks... doesnt make the game bad... but it doesn't make the 360 get a killer game like it was expected too. Which, if i owned a 360 and saw all the exclusives on the SONY platform i'd call that an epic fail. I wouldn't happily pay $60 for an A game or even a low AA game...

7.0 = good. Check the ratings here on Gamespot dude, it says it right there. Im sure many people would be happy with another "good" game or possibly even "great" game. Oh, and what exclusives does Sony have coming out in April? Oh right, nothing.

Still people expected more, and judging from the reactions people are dissapointed from the demo, so of course feelings aren't as high as they could be.
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#109 Anjunaddict
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[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"][QUOTE="MonkaTG"]

Isn't A like a 70%? possibly AA? that sucks... doesnt make the game bad... but it doesn't make the 360 get a killer game like it was expected too. Which, if i owned a 360 and saw all the exclusives on the SONY platform i'd call that an epic fail. I wouldn't happily pay $60 for an A game or even a low AA game...

FIipMode

7.0 = good. Check the ratings here on Gamespot dude, it says it right there. Im sure many people would be happy with another "good" game or possibly even "great" game. Oh, and what exclusives does Sony have coming out in April? Oh right, nothing.

Still people expected more, and judging from the reactions people are dissapointed from the demo, so of course feelings aren't as high as they could be.

Yeah, the demo was disappointing.

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#110 Little_Big_Dude
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Did you guys expect Chaos Theory 2? Ubi has been saying they were reinventing the franchise for a while now. You had to expect a faster paced game if this was the case. Me personally, I liked the demo and after the disaster that was DA they needed a change from the old style. It started getting stale. But that's me.
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#111 KamikazeDonut
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The demo was too short to really judge I just didn't like the whole mark and execute thing, or the fact you can run up to some one full speed and they won't notice you maybe the game gets harder at the end but, it was too easy during the demo. Also having infinte pistol ammo was kind of cheap because I use to love worrying about how much ammo I had during a mission and when to use a gun.

On the plus side I like the simplified controls, faster moving speed, the cover system, and the slick new form of presentation.

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#112 Jipset
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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"]The damage control in this thread is ferocious. I'm guessing those guys pre-ordered and paid in full. :lol:G-O-M-J
damage control? this thread is full of cry babies, waah splinter cell has changed waaaaahhh.. at least ubi are trying new things, their trying to make splinter cell better..

The older Splinter Cells were like the ultimate stealth games... now they're trying to keep up with games like Uncharted and CoD.

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#113 G-O-M-J
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[QUOTE="G-O-M-J"][QUOTE="Hahadouken"]The damage control in this thread is ferocious. I'm guessing those guys pre-ordered and paid in full. :lol:Jipset

damage control? this thread is full of cry babies, waah splinter cell has changed waaaaahhh.. at least ubi are trying new things, their trying to make splinter cell better..

The older Splinter Cells were like the ultimate stealth games... now they're trying to keep up with games like Uncharted and CoD.

dude the game isnt out yet and the demo was 5 minutes long so how can you say that?
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#114 Hahadouken
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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"]The damage control in this thread is ferocious. I'm guessing those guys pre-ordered and paid in full. :lol:deangallop
Or perhaps we would like to play the retail copy before we completely write it off.

I'm not talking about people excited for the game, I am among them. It's still right there in my sig for most anticipated, I hyped it AAA in the hype thread. I'm talking about people damage controlling the demo.
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#115 gammon56
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I never liked splinter cell games so i havent been paying attention to this one is the new one different?

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#116 88mphSlayer
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eh i sorta liked it

i'm thinking the level was one of those quickly put-together montages just meant to show off the gameplay mechanics, i mean after all it's a pretty segmented demo with parts thrown in just for the hell of it

so on that basis, i can't really judge if it's stealthy enough or not, i can very easily see the full game having levels designed to push the player to use more stealth and less rambo

either way, as a Splinter Cell game the demo is a step-down, but as a game by itself it's pretty decent

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#117 Hahadouken
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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"]The damage control in this thread is ferocious. I'm guessing those guys pre-ordered and paid in full. :lol:G-O-M-J
damage control? this thread is full of cry babies, waah splinter cell has changed waaaaahhh.. at least ubi are trying new things, their trying to make splinter cell better..

? I'm not crying over the game being different, I knew that from the outset. I just don't think the demo was very good. Action is great if they do it right. The lack of stealth isn't my concern, I haven't even mentioned it. Ubi tried to make Splinter Cell better, but whether they have succeeded remains to be seen.
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#118 tikki25x
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because judging the whole game by a tutorial makes so much sense. lol

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#119 G-O-M-J
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I never liked splinter cell games so i havent been paying attention to this one is the new one different?

gammon56
yes its different, you can pretty much just go in guns blazing
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#120 Hahadouken
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I never liked splinter cell games so i havent been paying attention to this one is the new one different?

gammon56
Heh, for a start you could read the rest of the thread.
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#121 Anjunaddict
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because judging the whole game by a tutorial makes so much sense. lol

tikki25x
I thought the purpose of a demo was to give people an idea what the game is like? Looks like the demo may have backfired as a lot of people are disappointed.
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#122 SPYDER0416
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[QUOTE="baby_kicker"]

I thought the demo was great. It shows you how to get into cover and do a close up kill, then you get a mark and exicute, then you are on your own to do whatever u want.

donalbane

Unless you want to take down targets non-lethally, interrogate people you grab for intel, grab and hide bodies, or create distractions by whistling, yeah... you can do anything you want. I'm glad you like it, but it's not a proper stealth game anymore. Oh well, we'll always have MGS4.

They took all of that out!?

Wow, this game went down the wrong track, it has great ideas but it shouldn't have removed these key aspects of the series.

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#123 xionvalkyrie
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People should watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVXabrfeThQ&feature=player_embedded

Maybe it'll change your minds.

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#124 SgtKevali
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I liked the demo. Controls were different, but I played through several times and they actually work well. Yeah, they did remove a lot of things, but its still awesome, just in a different way. There were dozens of ways I played through the demo. Preordered it.
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#125 tikki25x
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[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="baby_kicker"]

I thought the demo was great. It shows you how to get into cover and do a close up kill, then you get a mark and exicute, then you are on your own to do whatever u want.

SPYDER0416

Unless you want to take down targets non-lethally, interrogate people you grab for intel, grab and hide bodies, or create distractions by whistling, yeah... you can do anything you want. I'm glad you like it, but it's not a proper stealth game anymore. Oh well, we'll always have MGS4.

They took all of that out!?

Wow, this game went down the wrong track, it has great ideas but it shouldn't have removed these key aspects of the series.

what i dont get is how people didnt know all that? theyve said it multiple times and have been saying it for months on end. theres a ton of videos and previews saying the same thing. why are people so surprised?

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#126 SonyFan117
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wow that sucks. i would have expected it to be a AA or maybe even AAA with the way lemmings were hyping it. so is it official? MGS:4>SC:C?
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#127 lundy86_4
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I would say disappointing, rather than awful. They have changed up the mechanics, and I do prefer the old style of play, but I enjoyed the demo.

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#128 FIipMode
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wow that sucks. i would have expected it to be a AA or maybe even AAA with the way lemmings were hyping it. so is it official? MGS:4>SC:C?SonyFan117
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#129 Jason_A
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The damage control in this thread is ferocious. I'm guessing those guys pre-ordered and paid in full. :lol:Hahadouken
LOL!
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#130 Jason_A
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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"]The damage control in this thread is ferocious. I'm guessing those guys pre-ordered and paid in full. :lol:G-O-M-J
damage control? this thread is full of cry babies, waah splinter cell has changed waaaaahhh.. at least ubi are trying new things, their trying to make splinter cell better..

I agree that they are "trying" to make splinter cell better. They are trying and they are failing big time.
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#132 tutt3r
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it was weird i wasnt able to shoot out all the light sources which makes me sad :(

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#133 Ninja-Bear
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This was my most anticipated game of the year and after playing the demo, I am now not even going to buy it.

Jason_A

Exactly the same reaction from me. Complete u-turn altogether. Well done for ruining yet another game in your efforts to make it more appealing to the masses, Ubi Soft. Keep up the great work.

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#134 SpinoRaptor24
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Yeah. Seems like Ubisoft watered down the game to appeal to all those 10 year old FPS fanboys who have the attention span of a squirrel. Almost everything that I love about SC was taken out and replaced with action.

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#135 SpinoRaptor24
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wow that sucks. i would have expected it to be a AA or maybe even AAA with the way lemmings were hyping it. so is it official? MGS:4>SC:C?SonyFan117

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People should watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVXabrfeThQ&feature=player_embedded

Maybe it'll change your minds.

xionvalkyrie

This improves my opinion on the demo by quite a bit actually.

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#137 baby_kicker
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Like I said I enjoyed the demo, and it depends what the MP is like for me to buy this game. I'll definately rent the game, but if the MP is good I'll get it.

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#138 baby_kicker
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People should watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVXabrfeThQ&feature=player_embedded

Maybe it'll change your minds.

xionvalkyrie

Yeah but some people on here have no imagination and think you have to run n gun and then say that this is not a stealth game. It is nice to have options though isn't it.

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#139 devious742
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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"]The damage control in this thread is ferocious. I'm guessing those guys pre-ordered and paid in full. :lol:deangallop
Or perhaps we would like to play the retail copy before we completely write it off.

isnt that the purpose of the demo.... to try it out.. to see if you like it..

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#140 Clank-PS-Snake
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[QUOTE="MonkaTG"]

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"] The game is disappointing, but that doesn't make it a bad game. I think it will score A, possibly AA whereas im guessing everyone expected it to be AAA. So either way, the 360 is getting a good game so theres really nothing to feel bad about :wink:Anjunaddict

Isn't A like a 70%? possibly AA? that sucks... doesnt make the game bad... but it doesn't make the 360 get a killer game like it was expected too. Which, if i owned a 360 and saw all the exclusives on the SONY platform i'd call that an epic fail. I wouldn't happily pay $60 for an A game or even a low AA game...

7.0 = good. Check the ratings here on Gamespot dude, it says it right there. Im sure many people would be happy with another "good" game or possibly even "great" game. Oh, and what exclusives does Sony have coming out in April? Oh right, nothing.

Most people don't even play A games, this game might be dissapointing but no way is it going to get an A score it's better than that. Lol at your weak attempt at making 7.0 look like a good score. Anyway PS3 doesn't have any exclusives in April neither does 360 as this is on PC aswell. Plus PS3 has already had Heavy Rain, MAG and GOW3, 360 has had nothing.
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#141 Anjunaddict
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[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"][QUOTE="MonkaTG"]

Isn't A like a 70%? possibly AA? that sucks... doesnt make the game bad... but it doesn't make the 360 get a killer game like it was expected too. Which, if i owned a 360 and saw all the exclusives on the SONY platform i'd call that an epic fail. I wouldn't happily pay $60 for an A game or even a low AA game...

Clank-PS-Snake

7.0 = good. Check the ratings here on Gamespot dude, it says it right there. Im sure many people would be happy with another "good" game or possibly even "great" game. Oh, and what exclusives does Sony have coming out in April? Oh right, nothing.

Most people don't even play A games, this game might be dissapointing but no way is it going to get an A score it's better than that. Lol at your weak attempt at making 7.0 look like a good score. Anyway PS3 doesn't have any exclusives in April neither does 360 as this is on PC aswell. Plus PS3 has already had Heavy Rain, MAG and GOW3, 360 has had nothing.

LOL i stopped reading when you said 7.0 doesnt equal a good game. Um yeah it does, it says so on gamespot. And actually I think you'll find most people don't just play AAA games.

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[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

This flopping would be a bombshell on SW. Can't wait.. :D

FIipMode
What's the hype for this anyway?

AA IIRC
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#143 donalbane
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[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="baby_kicker"]

I thought the demo was great. It shows you how to get into cover and do a close up kill, then you get a mark and exicute, then you are on your own to do whatever u want.

Unless you want to take down targets non-lethally, interrogate people you grab for intel, grab and hide bodies, or create distractions by whistling, yeah... you can do anything you want. I'm glad you like it, but it's not a proper stealth game anymore. Oh well, we'll always have MGS4.

They took all of that out!?

Wow, this game went down the wrong track, it has great ideas but it shouldn't have removed these key aspects of the series.

Exactly... they could have included the Mark and Execute - and all the other new ideas - IN ADDITION to the tried and true stealth aspects. I don't know why they had to get rid of them. I guess they misunderstood the fans' tepid responses to the last game. Hey Ubi... we didn't like the JBL-base, but that doesn't mean we wanted you to strip the series of Sam's trademark moves!
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#144 donalbane
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it was weird i wasnt able to shoot out all the light sources which makes me sad :(

tutt3r
You can still do that, thankfully.. it's one of the few things they didn't completely surgically remove. It's just that some of the lights have gratings and are un-shootable... not all of them, though.
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#145 DEATH775
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This game took some years to make, but this is the result? I can't believe it. Still I'm getting this game.
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#146 donalbane
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This game took some years to make, but this is the result? I can't believe it. Still I'm getting this game.DEATH775
That's how I feel. I'm here castigating it but I'm still buying the collector's edition (especially since Gamestop doesn't have any more left.) I want it to be better than the demo, and will give it a another chance based on the strength of the other, stealthier games. My main hope is that the Co-op will retain the classic flavor I crave so.
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#147 Hahadouken
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="NielsNL"]

This flopping would be a bombshell on SW. Can't wait.. :D

sayonara89

What's the hype for this anyway?

AA IIRC

I can't find an official thread, it may be too late to really gauge this one. Someone ****ed up by not doing a hype thread. Now that the reaction to the demo is out in the gaming world, the hype will drop considerably because people want to cover their asses.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27211089

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27229254

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27131201

The one posted by BioShockOwnz has a poll and the poll results are AAA, but I don't know if that counts as official anything. I guess people could still do a hype thread, the safe bets going for AA or A after playing the demo might be equalized by the bloodthirsty haters rating it AAA to force a flop.

Well, someone do a hype thread. I would do it but I'm really not hyped for it anymore. :s

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#148 SquatsAreAwesom
Member since 2009 • 1678 Posts

I was unofficially hyping this game to be AAA... I'll be disappointed if it turns out to be less then an 8.5

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#149 xscrapzx
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Thats too bad, I will have to try out the demo for myself. That will be disappointing though, I was looking forward to this game.

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#150 oajlu
Member since 2006 • 2652 Posts

it's just a demo....it gave me a good feeling about the game I still am hyped for it...that was just a small taste idk what u were expecting

chikenfriedrice

that's why ppl said in MAG's beta and demo...lol

it's justa tom clancy's game...why would ppl put so much hype in it? well they are not bad, but far from great.