Homefront, only new games get Muliplayer.

I actually would do that if I were them.ExESGO

That doesn't mean it's something good.

[QUOTE="ExESGO"]I actually would do that if I were them.iAtrocious

That doesn't mean it's something good.

True, but used games hurt developers like piracy, not as bad since they can do something about it.

I don't actually support it, but if I were in their shoes, I'd do it.

I am the only one who thinks that if this was an Activision game that this would be getting dissed to hell here on SW?

MobilechicaneX

I'm pretty sure THQ is using Xbox Live's infrastructure like almost everyone else. McStrongfast

Am I the only one who sees this as a good thing? I mean some people truly dont care about online. They can discount the code 2$ and sell it on ebay if they're never going to use it. A picture of this would be silver users.

Also... why does this even work in LIVE considering the online aspect of the game is supposedly hosted by Microsoft with your funds?

blitzcloud

No worries here, as I planned on buying it new anyway. Can't blame them for doing this either.

[QUOTE="McStrongfast"] I'm pretty sure THQ is using Xbox Live's infrastructure like almost everyone else. Rockman999

Am I the only one who sees this as a good thing? I mean some people truly dont care about online. They can discount the code 2$ and sell it on ebay if they're never going to use it. A picture of this would be silver users.

Also... why does this even work in LIVE considering the online aspect of the game is supposedly hosted by Microsoft with your funds?

blitzcloud

In other words:

How they picture XBOX LIVE SERVICE.

xbox LIVE: fully integrated network options into the service. The dev doesn't have to take care of it, Microsoft provides the stuff. Result: games never shut down (lol original xbox live games). You gotta pay a fee because Microsoft is holding all that (again, lol)

PSN: Unintuitive, clunky, messy, medieval age communication systems. The devs have to infrastructure their game. Thats why you dont pay

(I repeat, that's how XBL users picture it)

But how can they agree to this code if the very basics of XBLG they defend to death are being violated by something on top of the subscription service? Isn't the online all paid already with the subscription cost? blasphemous!

Used games market is pretty much dead for the PC with the inclusion of DRM measures, don't see why the consoles have an exception! :Dlucfonzy

It'll be quite funny when someone buys it used to save $5, and comes home to find he has to pay $10 more. I think it's a smart move. How will they tell if it's a used game though.Deathtransit

[QUOTE="babyeatermax"]This is just ripping people off. Let the slippery slop begin.theuncharted34

how is that fair? you're ripping the developer's off when you buy a used game.

Used games sales are almost as bad as piracy if you ask me.

[QUOTE="iAtrocious"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

how is that fair? you're ripping the developer's off when you buy a used game.

Used games sales are almost as bad as piracy if you ask me.

theuncharted34

How am I ripping a developer off? It's like saying that when you buy a used car to save money for yourself you're being a big meanie to Ford, GM, BMW, etc. :lol:

Remember this: your acquisitive power is infinitely smaller than theirs. You owe them nothing.

I prefer to support the developers that make games that give me countless hours of enjoyment.

Do you work for a living?

[QUOTE="iAtrocious"]

[QUOTE="ExESGO"]I actually would do that if I were them.ExESGO

That doesn't mean it's something good.

True, but used games hurt developers like piracy, not as bad since they can do something about it.

I don't actually support it, but if I were in their shoes, I'd do it.

This is beginning to annoy the hell out of me. I understand why they do it it, in most cases developers continue to support the multiplayer after it's been sold, but they already charge too goddamn much (in most cases) for post game DLC (maps and the like). And they are already locking out content for exclusive deals in places like Gamestop and so on. This is just one more cash grab. I'm not supporting it. I'll just get single player games from companies that pull this crap.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"] Why should a dev get money twice for ONE copy of a game?iAtrocious

Because it's their software?

I don't mind them getting money from their software, but if I don't like a game, I want to be able to pass it on. Do you really think people will buy used games if they come with an extra US$10,00 tag attached to them?

And, as I've said several times before, I bought the game. Take your hands off of it, I can do whatever the **** I want with it, within the boundaries of legality

[QUOTE="iAtrocious"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Because it's their software?

shakmaster13

I don't mind them getting money from their software, but if I don't like a game, I want to be able to pass it on. Do you really think people will buy used games if they come with an extra US$10,00 tag attached to them?

And, as I've said several times before, I bought the game. Take your hands off of it, I can do whatever the **** I want with it, within the boundaries of legality

[QUOTE="iAtrocious"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Because it's their software?

shakmaster13

I don't mind them getting money from their software, but if I don't like a game, I want to be able to pass it on. Do you really think people will buy used games if they come with an extra US$10,00 tag attached to them?

And, as I've said several times before, I bought the game. Take your hands off of it, I can do whatever the **** I want with it, within the boundaries of legality

I think at some point console sales are going to be treated like Steam; Buy a game, link it to your account, youre stuck with it.

Its heading that way now, look at the Bad Co VIP codes, Mass Effect 2 Cereberus network, DLC sales, Day 1 activation DLC etc. Its all there to make your game less valuable as soon as you play it.

Its all lining us up for 1 sale=1 game.

I think at some point console sales are going to be treated like Steam; Buy a game, link it to your account, youre stuck with it.

Its heading that way now, look at the Bad Co VIP codes, Mass Effect 2 Cereberus network, DLC sales, Day 1 activation DLC etc. Its all there to make your game less valuable as soon as you play it.

Its all lining us up for 1 sale=1 game.

D1zzyCriminal

As a gamer looking at it from the sidelines, I understand and see both arguments here. Even though I do like to support developers, I also like picking used games up on the cheap here and there. This sucks for those who planned to buy it used later on, but it is in no way wrong that a publisher and developer wants to merely sell their game and are taking measures to encourage gamers to buy the game new.

If the used games market wasn't so massive I'd probably be against thisskrat_01

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]i have no problem with this..developers should get something out of a used game sale.dotWithShoes

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]i have no problem with this..developers should get something out of a used game sale.HarlockJC

Why should they be paid twice though?

If I buy a second hand game, obviously I don't feel it's worth full price.

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="dotWithShoes"] Why should a dev get money twice for ONE copy of a game?-Snooze-

Why should they be paid twice though?

If I buy a second hand game, obviously I don't feel it's worth full price.

exactly. obviously this is too logical for SW though...

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"] If you buy it used your keeping money from going to the dev a second time. I really can't blame them. lazerface216

Why should they be paid twice though?

If I buy a second hand game, obviously I don't feel it's worth full price.

exactly. obviously this is too logical for SW though...

Price games better and offer incentive to purchase them new. There's ways around second hand games that don't limit the buyers ability to play their game the way they want.

This is stupid. Does any other type of industry do this?

I will not be buying any game that requires me to pay to play it online. Fifa 11 only allowed 1 xbox live account per code, so that means me and my nephew have to share one account to play it on the same xbox and it affects game stats etc..

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]i have no problem with this..developers should get something out of a used game sale.Wasdie

Because it's their software?

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]If the used games market wasn't so massive I'd probably be against thisHuusAsking

[QUOTE="dercoo"] [QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]To the developer, used game sales aren't much different than piracy. McStrongfast

I will not be buying any game that requires me to pay to play it online. Fifa 11 only allowed 1 xbox live account per code, so that means me and my nephew have to share one account to play it on the same xbox and it affects game stats etc..

ccagracing

[QUOTE="ccagracing"]

I will not be buying any game that requires me to pay to play it online. Fifa 11 only allowed 1 xbox live account per code, so that means me and my nephew have to share one account to play it on the same xbox and it affects game stats etc..

Rockman999

Xbox Live isn't a game ...

i'm renting it so i will just blow through the campaign and send it back no biggie.

i was bummed i could not play nfs hot pursuit online but it's cool since i didn't want to pay for it and that is my punishment.

[QUOTE="Rockman999"][QUOTE="ccagracing"]

I will not be buying any game that requires me to pay to play it online. Fifa 11 only allowed 1 xbox live account per code, so that means me and my nephew have to share one account to play it on the same xbox and it affects game stats etc..

-Snooze-

Xbox Live isn't a game ...

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]So does that mean that you're your 360?Rockman999

Xbox Live isn't a game ...

His statement was : I will not be buying any game that requires me to pay to play it online - You should know, you highlighted it.

Xbox Live does not require you pay them for each game you play online. Unlike what his statement is alluding to.

He currently pays a flatrate to pay ALL his games online. He doesn't want to have to pay something for each game he buys.

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Xbox Live isn't a game ...

-Snooze-

His statement was : I will not be buying any game that requires me to pay to play it online - You should know, you highlighted it.

Xbox Live does not require you pay them for each game you play online. Unlike what his statement is alluding to.

He currently pays a flatrate to pay ALL his games online. He doesn't want to have to pay something for each game he buys.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]He still has to pay to play any game online on his 360...

Rockman999

His statement was : I will not be buying any game that requires me to pay to play it online - You should know, you highlighted it.

Xbox Live does not require you pay them for each game you play online. Unlike what his statement is alluding to.

He currently pays a flatrate to pay ALL his games online. He doesn't want to have to pay something for each game he buys.

Don't think that's the point he was making though, was it? So what relevence did your post have?

None?

[QUOTE="McStrongfast"]There is no moral conundrum here. I buy a thing, I can sell it.

Jynxzor

[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]THQ tried this w/ UFC last year, and then scratched their head about why it undersold. Probably going to be the same thing w/ homefront.Yangire

You people are aware that you can still play the game online if you buy it used, you just won't be able to progress past Level 5. You can all calm down now. :|

[QUOTE="Yangire"][QUOTE="jrhawk42"]THQ tried this w/ UFC last year, and then scratched their head about why it undersold. Probably going to be the same thing w/ homefront.Makari

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]i have no problem with this..developers should get something out of a used game sale.dotWithShoes

It does make sense for THQ, but will probably end up with the MP being dead quicker.tehsystemwarior

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

His statement was : I will not be buying any game that requires me to pay to play it online - You should know, you highlighted it.

Xbox Live does not require you pay them for each game you play online. Unlike what his statement is alluding to.

He currently pays a flatrate to pay ALL his games online. He doesn't want to have to pay something for each game he buys.

-Snooze-

Don't think that's the point he was making though, was it? So what relevence did your post have?

None?

Honestly, I thought of XBL Gold when reading that quote! But it wasn't the only thing. Pay-to-play MMO's like WOW and the new DCUO came to mind as well. I want to play DCUO, but there's no way I'm paying for it :P. I ain't paying for Gold either!

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]Either way he's still paying extra to play his games online whether it's for all his games or not.

Don't think that's the point he was making though, was it? So what relevence did your post have?

None?

Honestly, I thought of XBL Gold when reading that quote! But it wasn't the only thing. Pay-to-play MMO's like WOW and the new DCUO came to mind as well. I want to play DCUO, but there's no way I'm paying for it :P. I ain't paying for Gold either!

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"]Why should a dev get money twice for ONE copy of a game?edo-tensei

That's what i thought too. Funny how some people argue against this and then have no problem paying for live.edo-tensei

How do they know if its used?bbkkristian