Horizon Zero Dawn destroyed any last hope the Xbone had for having a console graphics king. ITS DONE.

@mems_1224 said:

How can MS compete? Not since Mass Effect 1 have we seen facial animations this advanced

Wow! And I thought this was bad:

Wow! photomode is such a bullshot creator, guys. Added so many effects that the game looks exactly the same with possibly less DoF/motion blur. Keep on hiding behind "bullshots", tho.

@zeeshanhaider: You keep failing to acknowledge that the entirety of the single player of KZ:SF was 1080p and somehow act as if only the multiplayer exist. So answer the question you rambling buffoon. Was the single player of KZ:SF not native 1080p and is that not better then 900p? Yes or No?

Well when you have a more powerful console and a very talented team behind it great things are bound to happen.

@silversix_: haha nice!

Crickets...

eat your heart out bethesda.

From the 10h i've played, every single side quest was the definition of horse shit. Its so bad i stopped listening to the dialogue and simply spam X to skip all of all.

Agreed. Voice acting and dialogue is pretty shit aside from that African dude who talks to Aloy.

@silversix_: they get a little better later one. There are a handful of interesting characters but they're all pretty inconsistent because the writing is bad a lot of the time.

The actual quests have you doing the same shit for the most part though. Follow a line and kill something at the end

Foliage looks less aliased in the photo mode vs the regular mode, but this looks a lot different when you don't apply any effects to it like DoF.

@DragonfireXZ95 said:

Foliage looks less aliased in the photo mode vs the regular mode, but this looks a lot different when you don't apply any effects to it like DoF.

Well, no effects were applied so hermits saying "bullshots mode" are simply wrong and jelly of the game's beauty.

@silversix_ said:

@DragonfireXZ95 said:

Foliage looks less aliased in the photo mode vs the regular mode, but this looks a lot different when you don't apply any effects to it like DoF.

Well, no effects were applied so hermits saying "bullshots mode" are simply wrong and jelly of the game's beauty.

Not saying they are, however it does look like some supersampling may be utilized upon opening photo mode, since less aliasing is present in all of the photomode shots.

Which would mean they are bullshots, if true.

I have always thought Ps4 graphics were a good deal better than Xbone's. However, where games are really suffering as the graphical fidelity rises is the animation. NBA 2k17, for example: The fidelity of the character models has increased greatly this gen. What makes this way worse is the fact that the more the textures got better, the animations looked worse and worse. Lebron James LOOKS super realistic, but he moves like a robot, and it is not convincing in any way at all.

Again, nothing added, just in photomode. I think its safe to assume nothing will ever reach these visuals on the X1.

@DragonfireXZ95: But the grass doesn't even look aliased in the "gameplay" pics (hell, this game has amazing AA). It looks 'blurrier' because its moving (motion blur). When in photomode, the picture is still, nothing moves. That's why its a little bit cleaner. Has nothing to do with bullshotting.

That is absolutely bullshotting.

Removing motion blur is bullshotting?

Ok. The PS4 was more powerful than X1 at launch, I remember the X1 running COD at 900p or whatever threads from 2013...it having what's considered the best looking game of this gen 4 years later and nothing to really compare it to on X1 is hardly a news flash or some shocking development. Horizon looks great. Scorpio's specs are known well enough that it seems like it should be capable of outdoing even Horizon, but it's gonna be a wait for confirmation. So XB1 console graphics king no, but Scorpio yes, for years, until the PS5 surfaces. I'll buy games for Scorpio and Pro, but I don't buy games just based on the graphics. I was still playing PC fpsers from the late 90s well into the 2000s because they were fun, graphically very outdated, but that it isn't what mattered.

Since I'm buying for both, my ego and self-worth isn't tied to which particular corporation's device I own like some in this thread. No matter how beautiful certain titles are on the Scorpio, if something's a PS exclusive then my only option is PS4 for those titles. People take brand loyalty too far like it's their local sports team or something. These are gigantic mega corporations that simply want your +1 sale, that is all. They're not your buddy, and unless you own stock their sales don't change your life. I don't care about the Switch or Zelda and I might raz Switch people here and there but it's really just in jest, and I accept that that stuff feels right for those players even if I don't think it's worth bothering with.

Haven't played either, but I've heard both are excellent. But on topic, if one wants to fap over graphics that much, get a PC. Console graphics kings is a really fucking stupid fanboy term.

That's not removing motion blur, because motion blur would create less aliasing. If the photomode is still, and it has less aliasing, that means that there is supersampling applied when photomode is enabled. It looks to be minimal, though, not like Uncharted 4, but it is still considered a bullshot.

I cant vote, dude. You didn't give an option that notices the truth that any console paper crown will only last long enough to see Scorpio shit on it. I am playing Horizon right now on my 46" Sony Bravia 4k HDR TV and chose display first in settings to see. And it is gorgeous. Witcher 3 on PC is all I have played that matches it. But it tells me in the options it is upscaled babybackweabooballbagbullshit 4.2Tflops. So this fall, I'll have a console that defecates on this HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Choke down Yoshida's balls pal HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL

@silversix_: Yeah but not Xbox Scorpio.

You ain't see nothing yet. Wait until the hardware is mastered and games are built from the ground up with the Pro in mind. Astounding!

SP was only 50% of the game and knowing shitty it was I probably won't even count it 50%. So shame shame, Garbage Games for making a subHD turd on a most powerful console to have ever been created for its time and lied about that. Even WiiU don't have a subHD game.

1080p is better than 900p but as the DF put it Ryse shat on Crapzone: Shadow Fall all things considered while being on a 50% weaker hardware. Another loss for Garbage Games.

You ain't see anything from Scorpio but once you do you and the rest of the cows are ........ REKT!!!!!!!

First of all, excluding PC is always weird. this here is System Wars and not "we know PC wins, so we exclude it" Wars. That aside, Ryse still looks really, really good and let's not forget that Scorpio is around the corner

@xhawk27: Flops that are pretty will not sell systems. Omg rekt lulz.

You're blind

Not sure about future games, but Horizon does look insane! Other than face animations it's easily the best looking game i have ever seen.

@DragonfireXZ95: I don't know where you're even seen alisiasing. There no jaggies in the game.

Because you have seen it?

You're the blind one. Looks like crap on the Bone. Its done, the Xbone has been outclassed and by a lot. It looks messy and ugly compared to Horizon.

Horizon Zero Dawn destroyed any last hope the Bore Poo will be getting anything close to creative, unique games this gen, just moooaar of the same and cookie cutter hack & slash wii-a-moo movie games to come.

The Awaitness is never ending. :P

The problem with Ryse is that it's 95% baked in. Is there dynamic weather, time, and lighting? No. Can you jump down, scramble through the forest, cross the lake, and the climb the mountains beyond? No.

In HZD you can explore everything you can see, all the way to the ummmm...well horizon, and even beyond.

I can also confirm there really is no jaggies as far as I'm aware of cause I'm still exploring the game then I am trying to playing the story mode. I'm just gonna try and find all the Cauldron areas so I can override all Machines.

Edit: I never use Motion Blur when I game on PC but Motion Blur on consoles I'm cool with.

@skektek said:

@loe12k said:

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An xbox game and i could post other images of first party games on xbox one that look great. Your thread is debunked.

The problem with Ryse is that it's 95% baked in. Is there dynamic weather, time, and lighting? No. Can you jump down, scramble through the forest, cross the lake, and the climb the mountains beyond? No.

In HZD you can explore everything you can see, all the way to the ummmm...well horizon, and even beyond.

At full 1080p/30fps (2160p checkerboard/30fps on Pro) no less.

@zeeshanhaider: Ohh so because you thought the single-player was shitty it doesn't count? So by that standard Ryse doesn't exist:D.

Also you fail to mention that when it was sub HD it was running at a locked 60fps while Ryse had dips into the 20s.

@DragonfireXZ95: No it really doesn't. There is no Jaggies in gameplay. The only thing thats different at all is a DOF effect towards the bottom of the screen while you are playing but other then that its identical.

@Zero_epyon said:

@skektek said:

@loe12k said:

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An xbox game and i could post other images of first party games on xbox one that look great. Your thread is debunked.

The problem with Ryse is that it's 95% baked in. Is there dynamic weather, time, and lighting? No. Can you jump down, scramble through the forest, cross the lake, and the climb the mountains beyond? No.

In HZD you can explore everything you can see, all the way to the ummmm...well horizon, and even beyond.

At full 1080p/30fps (2160p checkerboard/30fps on Pro) no less.

Ryse won graphic awards for a reason this not about resolution. You just have to look at these pictures to understand why Ryse was a better game graphically.

@loe12k: please stop posting.

Horizon is a beautiful game but pics dont do no game justice

It looks as good as it plays!

@loe12k said:

@Zero_epyon said:

@skektek said:

@loe12k said:

An xbox game and i could post other images of first party games on xbox one that look great. Your thread is debunked.

The problem with Ryse is that it's 95% baked in. Is there dynamic weather, time, and lighting? No. Can you jump down, scramble through the forest, cross the lake, and the climb the mountains beyond? No.

In HZD you can explore everything you can see, all the way to the ummmm...well horizon, and even beyond.

At full 1080p/30fps (2160p checkerboard/30fps on Pro) no less.

Ryse won graphic awards for a reason this not about resolution. You just have to look at these pictures to understand why Ryse was a better game graphically.

Was. That was 4 years ago. You've got to move on son.

@skektek said:

@loe12k said:

@Zero_epyon said:

@skektek said:

@loe12k said:

An xbox game and i could post other images of first party games on xbox one that look great. Your thread is debunked.

The problem with Ryse is that it's 95% baked in. Is there dynamic weather, time, and lighting? No. Can you jump down, scramble through the forest, cross the lake, and the climb the mountains beyond? No.

In HZD you can explore everything you can see, all the way to the ummmm...well horizon, and even beyond.

At full 1080p/30fps (2160p checkerboard/30fps on Pro) no less.

Ryse won graphic awards for a reason this not about resolution. You just have to look at these pictures to understand why Ryse was a better game graphically.

Was. That was 4 years ago. You've got to move on son.

Exactly this. And graphically, Horizon beats Ryse. It's an open world game that include just as much detail, where everything seen can be visited and isn't just a simple backdrop or corridor. All while being rendered at higher resolutions, making the image sharper and cleaner. Resolution might not be all to graphics but it certainly is a major factor. Blow that 720p screenshot of his onto a TV and you'll hurt your eyes.

@zeeshanhaider: You have to get some new material. Doesnt change the fact it its 3x the framerate of Ryse when running at lower res.

I posted a picture. There is clearly a difference between the two.

Motion blur also hides the jagged edges while it's in motion. You probably don't see any jaggies because 1. motion blur. 2. possibly not a big enough TV.

Photomode, if it produces supersampling, will also hide jagged edges. The difference is subtle, but there is one here.

@skektek said:

The problem with Ryse is that it's 95% baked in. Is there dynamic weather, time, and lighting? No. Can you jump down, scramble through the forest, cross the lake, and the climb the mountains beyond? No.

In HZD you can explore everything you can see, all the way to the ummmm...well horizon, and even beyond.

Backgrounds are blured out so only the immediate foreground objects have to be rendered with high quality, camera angles are setup to avoid rendering much beyond the immediate foreground objects. The same crutches games like Gears of War were forced to restort to last gen to try to give the Xbox fans something to cling to.

Uncharted crushes Gears of War in graphics

http://kineticninja.blogspot.com/2009_01_01_archive.html

Direct screen captures - no marketing bullshots.