How can anybody say that the PS3 is winning?

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#1 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Ok, I know we are all very happy, because reportedly, the PS3 topped hardware charts this month (keep in mind that we have no official numbers yet, and therefore, no concrete proof). Be that as it may, we can safely declare that the PS3 is buoyed by an optimism that it was lacking since its launch.

However, it's only been a month, and cows have (as usual) pounced upon the opportunity, already declaring that the 'Ps3 has won,' or that 'Sony is winning.' How? Last I checked, the PS3 had a nigh insurmountable sales gap seperating it from the other two systems, and its software sales were in the gutter. How can anybody who is even slightly rational claim in their right mind that Sony or the PS3 are at the top?

I know we are all excited at the PS3 finally getting its due. But we'd do well to stay calm, and see if this success at the very least sustains itself.

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The playstation is winning? Cool!

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It's done a lot of great things this year. Sure it's not ahead by all it's sales, but winning is such a loose term in the system wars who really gives a damn, all we need to know is it really pushd forward as a system this year./

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Look at the Poll results... a good 33% of the people actually think the PS3 is winning! No wonder System ars is called Cowland.
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Look at the Poll results... a good 33% of the people actually think the PS3 is winning! No wonder System ars is called Cowland.charizard1605
As long as i get amazing games for my ps3 every month, that people without ps3's cant play its winning for me.
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Even though GoW, FF, and GT5 are still not out, atleast PS3 fans finally have SOMETHING to be happy about.

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because for real gamers, "winning", has to do with Games. and by far sony is winning in the games department. Leading in AAAAE, tied for lead with AAAE, basically puts them first.
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because for real gamers, "winning", has to do with Games. and by far sony is winning in the games department. Leading in AAAAE, tied for lead with AAAE, basically puts them first.TheCoreGamer_

Yea, but they're down with AAE compared to the 360, and the 360 has more multiplats than the PS3 because it shares them with PC. And there's no way MGS4 should be considered the game that keeps PS3 ahead of 360. It's a pretty terrible AAAA game.

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because for real gamers, "winning", has to do with Games. and by far sony is winning in the games department. Leading in AAAAE, tied for lead with AAAE, basically puts them first.TheCoreGamer_
See, in terms of both spftware and hardware sales, PS3 brings up the tail. It's LOSING. Not WINNING. And yet most people think it's winning! My god, the fanboyism on display here stuns me!
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[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"]because for real gamers, "winning", has to do with Games. and by far sony is winning in the games department. Leading in AAAAE, tied for lead with AAAE, basically puts them first.WINDWAKER1

Yea, but they're down with AAE compared to the 360, and the 360 has more multiplats than the PS3 because it shares them with PC. And there's no way MGS4 should be considered the game that keeps PS3 ahead of 360. It's a pretty terrible AAAA game.

enjoy your AE games while im playing fresh AAAE, not to mention there is ALOT more to come from sony then there is from microsoft which im confident will completely put PS3 clear from 360 with the number of AAAAE and AAAE games. The only thing left for lemmings to claim is sales, and lately it hasnt been looking too good with the 360 barely outselling the ps2.
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because for real gamers, "winning", has to do with Games. and by far sony is winning in the games department. Leading in AAAAE, tied for lead with AAAE, basically puts them first.TheCoreGamer_
Oh, and that is also subjective. What if I dont care for the games Sony has on offer? What if I like stuff like Zelda or Metroid more? Then the Wii is winning for me. Or what if I like shooters? Then the 360 is paradise for me.
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[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"]because for real gamers, "winning", has to do with Games. and by far sony is winning in the games department. Leading in AAAAE, tied for lead with AAAE, basically puts them first.charizard1605
See, in terms of both spftware and hardware sales, PS3 brings up the tail. It's LOSING. Not WINNING. And yet most people think it's winning! My god, the fanboyism on display here stuns me!

im talking about games, and your talking about sales. i wonder which one is more important to both of us. hmmm...
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Cognitive dissonance

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And there's no way MGS4 should be considered the game that keeps PS3 ahead of 360. It's a pretty terrible AAAA game.

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That last part made me laugh.
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[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"]because for real gamers, "winning", has to do with Games. and by far sony is winning in the games department. Leading in AAAAE, tied for lead with AAAE, basically puts them first.charizard1605
Oh, and that is also subjective. What if I dont care for the games Sony has on offer? What if I like stuff like Zelda or Metroid more? Then the Wii is winning for me. Or what if I like shooters? Then the 360 is paradise for me.

what if questions always lead to other discussions. what if......................the 360 doesnt get another AAA game after forza for another year, like it has done this year.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"]because for real gamers, "winning", has to do with Games. and by far sony is winning in the games department. Leading in AAAAE, tied for lead with AAAE, basically puts them first.TheCoreGamer_
See, in terms of both spftware and hardware sales, PS3 brings up the tail. It's LOSING. Not WINNING. And yet most people think it's winning! My god, the fanboyism on display here stuns me!

im talking about games, and your talking about sales. i wonder which one is more important to both of us. hmmm...

I misinterpreted you r post. Accordingly, you will find that I respond to your post properly in my next one.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"]because for real gamers, "winning", has to do with Games. and by far sony is winning in the games department. Leading in AAAAE, tied for lead with AAAE, basically puts them first.TheCoreGamer_
Oh, and that is also subjective. What if I dont care for the games Sony has on offer? What if I like stuff like Zelda or Metroid more? Then the Wii is winning for me. Or what if I like shooters? Then the 360 is paradise for me.

what if questions always lead to other discussions. what if......................the 360 doesnt get another AAA game after forza for another year, like it has done this year.

I don't care about the library. See, Fire Emblem Wii scored 6 here. To me, it ranks as one of this gen's best. Same with MadWorld. I hate RE5, which was AAAE. I loved Motorstorm, which were both AE. I dont care about the scores here. I care about the games. ANd the preferences. You havent answered my question, I see.
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[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Oh, and that is also subjective. What if I dont care for the games Sony has on offer? What if I like stuff like Zelda or Metroid more? Then the Wii is winning for me. Or what if I like shooters? Then the 360 is paradise for me. charizard1605
what if questions always lead to other discussions. what if......................the 360 doesnt get another AAA game after forza for another year, like it has done this year.

I don't care about the library. See, Fire Emblem Wii scored 6 here. To me, it ranks as one of this gen's best. Same with MadWorld. I hate RE5, which was AAAE. I loved Motorstorm, which were both AE. I dont care about the scores here. I care about the games. ANd the preferences. You havent answered my question, I see.

well maybe you should check out the wii board then im sure theres alot of other people who enjoy similar games as you. But in SW, scores are what matters. and in some cases, sales - but thats just being desperate.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"] what if questions always lead to other discussions. what if......................the 360 doesnt get another AAA game after forza for another year, like it has done this year.TheCoreGamer_
I don't care about the library. See, Fire Emblem Wii scored 6 here. To me, it ranks as one of this gen's best. Same with MadWorld. I hate RE5, which was AAAE. I loved Motorstorm, which were both AE. I dont care about the scores here. I care about the games. ANd the preferences. You havent answered my question, I see.

well maybe you should check out the wii board then im sure theres alot of other people who enjoy similar games as you. But in SW, scores are what matters. and in some cases, sales - but thats just being desperate.

Scores-wise, PS3 is closing the gap, i agree. but saleswise? we come back to my original arguement.
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[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] I don't care about the library. See, Fire Emblem Wii scored 6 here. To me, it ranks as one of this gen's best. Same with MadWorld. I hate RE5, which was AAAE. I loved Motorstorm, which were both AE. I dont care about the scores here. I care about the games. ANd the preferences. You havent answered my question, I see.charizard1605
well maybe you should check out the wii board then im sure theres alot of other people who enjoy similar games as you. But in SW, scores are what matters. and in some cases, sales - but thats just being desperate.

Scores-wise, PS3 is closing the gap, i agree. but saleswise? we come back to my original arguement.

what gap? PS3 is in first place, even when you consider PC for this gen.
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Because everyone's a winner.
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Look at the Poll results... a good 33% of the people actually think the PS3 is winning! No wonder System ars is called Cowland.charizard1605
I voted yes for the lulz.
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Ok, I know we are all very happy, because reportedly, the PS3 topped hardware charts this month (keep in mind that we have no official numbers yet, and therefore, no concrete proof). Be that as it may, we can safely declare that the PS3 is buoyed by an optimism that it was lacking since its launch.

However, it's only been a month, and cows have (as usual) pounced upon the opportunity, already declaring that the 'Ps3 has won,' or that 'Sony is winning.' How? Last I checked, the PS3 had a nigh insurmountable sales gap seperating it from the other two systems, and its software sales were in the gutter. How can anybody who is even slightly rational claim in their right mind that Sony or the PS3 are at the top?

I know we are all excited at the PS3 finally getting its due. But we'd do well to stay calm, and see if this success at the very least sustains itself.

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Because the PS3 is now tied with 360 at Gamerankings in Total AAA, and is beating the 360 in AAAE as well. Also, the sales the PS3 is recieving right now are very significant. A million just dissapeared off the 360s gap just like that. What do you think is going to happen on black friday? At least another million+ will dissapear off the gap during that single weekend alone!
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Look at the Poll results... a good 33% of the people actually think the PS3 is winning! No wonder System ars is called Cowland.charizard1605
Exactly. Theres no point trying to make a poll without cows messing it up.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"] well maybe you should check out the wii board then im sure theres alot of other people who enjoy similar games as you. But in SW, scores are what matters. and in some cases, sales - but thats just being desperate.TheCoreGamer_
Scores-wise, PS3 is closing the gap, i agree. but saleswise? we come back to my original arguement.

what gap? PS3 is in first place, even when you consider PC for this gen.

That is the truth, the only reason the 360 is ahead in sales is because it started a year earlier, if it hadn't, it would be losing. http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php
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[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"]because for real gamers, "winning", has to do with Games. and by far sony is winning in the games department. Leading in AAAAE, tied for lead with AAAE, basically puts them first.WINDWAKER1

Yea, but they're down with AAE compared to the 360, and the 360 has more multiplats than the PS3 because it shares them with PC. And there's no way MGS4 should be considered the game that keeps PS3 ahead of 360. It's a pretty terrible AAAA game.

your ignorance is shameful and i feel sorry for you. you should judge a system by AAA quality titles, not haveing more mediocre titles. but i guess in your case quantity > quality......

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We don't need 5 of these threads every half an hour.

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Some people enjoy playing great games more than reading the NPD Sale's Charts every week. Ever think about that? :|
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#29 MasteRich
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It's been one month and already there is like no gap between yearly sales of 360 and PS3. That's how impressive one month has been for the PS3. The PS3 seems to have way more quality exclusives now. Anyone who isn't a fanboy can recognize this.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Look at the Poll results... a good 33% of the people actually think the PS3 is winning! No wonder System ars is called Cowland.fuchuzz
As long as i get amazing games for my ps3 every month, that people without ps3's cant play its winning for me.

Yes cowland indeed.
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On SW, it's winning for this year. It's increased sales and great games make that. While not in the lead for the generation, it certainly has this year's award. So for PS3, it's getting scores, sales, and also overall acclaim. So that's likely to be a win for this year.;)
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I honestly haven't heard anybody say that it is winning, save for a very few ridiculous fanboys. I think that in terms of exclusive games, the PS3 definitely (at least as of this fall) has the upper hand, but that is just an opinion. A lot of people like Halo and PGR better than Killzone and Motorstorm 2, for instance.

As far as sales, attach rates, and install base goes, the 360 is still definitely on top.

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BTW, I'm not being serious, but why should I be? This is SW, not the real world.:P Have fun!
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Of course not. It has less exclusives, less multiplats, inferior looking games (in most cases), less sales etc....

Anyway, the poll dont surprise me all all :?

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I couldn't care less who is winning. One console being more successful than another doesn't bring any real enjoyment to me, i don't see why i should care unless i'm a shareholder.
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[QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"]

[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"]because for real gamers, "winning", has to do with Games. and by far sony is winning in the games department. Leading in AAAAE, tied for lead with AAAE, basically puts them first.TheCoreGamer_

Yea, but they're down with AAE compared to the 360, and the 360 has more multiplats than the PS3 because it shares them with PC. And there's no way MGS4 should be considered the game that keeps PS3 ahead of 360. It's a pretty terrible AAAA game.

enjoy your AE games while im playing fresh AAAE, not to mention there is ALOT more to come from sony then there is from microsoft which im confident will completely put PS3 clear from 360 with the number of AAAAE and AAAE games. The only thing left for lemmings to claim is sales, and lately it hasnt been looking too good with the 360 barely outselling the ps2.

that doesn't change the fact that the 360 still has more high scoring exclusives than the ps3 does.

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I'm not sure if Sony is winning on paper just yet, but imoPS3 should be the system to win.
360 people like paying extra for everything, and don't want blu-ray.And there's no talking them out of it. I don't get it, but I better shut up before a 360 loving mod comes along and shuts me down for speaking ill of theirbeloved360. Because I wouldn't be giving my opinion, that would be "trolling" right? Yeah, whaever.

Games are all a matter of opinion. Remove the games from the equation and the PS3 is OBVIOUSLY the smarter decision.
Add the games back in, and (imo of course) PS3 is a more than worthy adversary against the 360.
Wii...doesn't count. Far as I'm concerned they opted out of the competition when they released a GCN with a pointing device.

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I think it should be obvious that the ps3 is winning because the ps3 has the ability to provide gamers with the new level of gaming and with blue-ray the ps3 will out last the 360.I wouldnt be surprised if the ps3 is around even after microsoft releases its new console(which is only a rumer to my knowledge) and history will more than likely repeat itself,sony will release a ps4 a year later again with superior hardware/software and so on.
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#39 KittyHeart
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ther e are people who say the ps3 is winning??

really? i mean seriously...

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How can anybody say that the PS3 is NOT winning?

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#41 Chrome-
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Yeah the PS3 is winning they're only 8 mill behind the 360.
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The PS3 is killing the 360 in quality games right now, get over it and get a PS3.
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#43 djsifer01
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Look at the Poll results... a good 33% of the people actually think the PS3 is winning! No wonder System ars is called Cowland.charizard1605
The 360 has had so many amazing games over the last couple years. I cant imagine why people would think this.
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Yeah the PS3 is winning they're only 8 mill behind the 360.Chrome-
There not 8 million behind, try geting your facts straight before posting.
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#45 BilkeLegenda
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All I ever hear about the 360 is Gears and Halo,common guys,those games arent even exclusive to the 360.
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Here is the list of all AAAA/AAA/AA/A for all platforms this gen

Go figure.

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[QUOTE="Chrome-"]Yeah the PS3 is winning they're only 8 mill behind the 360.djsifer01
There not 8 million behind, try geting your facts straight before posting.

the 360 still has a higher amount of good games. Maybe you should get your facts straight.

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#48 Munasha
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the ps3 come out a year later then 360 at $600 a piece so its not even a fair race. if i give u 2 days to sell lemon juice at $4 and i only sell for 1 day at $6 who is gonna have more sales??
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#49 BilkeLegenda
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I understand what ur saying but so far from what Ive seen most 360 owners only care about gears and halo man.Its like the rest doesnt even exist.
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#50 ActicEdge
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It depends on how you define winning and on whether you are a fanboy or not.