How Dark Souls ever got a higher score than Skyrim here is beyond me

*If you haven't guessed by now, the title was merely bait. This is all just my opinion. Why post it? Because I can.*

The thread might have a few small spoilers so watch out. Nothing about the story though.

So I've been playing a lot of Skyrim and Dark Souls recently. I hear so many praises for Dark Souls that I just had to try it. I didn't expect much from the game and I was right.

Dark Souls has so many problems that it's not even funny. The biggest thing I'd noticed was that the game wasn't that hard at all. People here act all mighty and sh*t when they beat the game or act like they're "hardcore". The game isn't that hard. Assuming you don't act like a total idiot, you'll be fine. For the most part. When the game does get hard, it's borderline cheap. You get forced into a corner by five ghosts? Good luck. Oh a boss fight with two gargoyles and one of them keeps breathing fire while the other attacks? Yeah that's fair. These moments are completely unfair and just not well done.

Another problem with Dark Souls is a lack of an ingame map. The world is huge. That's one of the best things about Dark Souls but why no map? Was the dev trying to make the game harder by not including a map? All it does is add more pointless backtracking.

Oh and don't get me started on the online play. The ideas of leaving notes behind is cool. I like that. The co-op is not good though. There's so many bullsh*t restrictions and other crap. What if I just want to go through the world with a buddy? Well you better be at the same level at all times.

Let looks at Skyrim. The world is huge and beautiful. There's so much to do and the game is rarely cheap. It makes you want to explore for hours. It's just an all around good game. Sure there's a few glitches but nothing game breaking.

Both games have one common problem though. Both have random frame drops. They're both quite noticeable and annoying. I was told it was only a problem in a certain area for Dark Souls but it seems to happen everywhere. The game is still playable but it gets on your nerves. It's not a huge deal for Skyrim (even more so if you play it on PC) but for a game like Dark Souls, it's just stupid.

I have many more gripes but I don't want to write a novel. Dark Souls isn't a bad game. It's quite addicting. I just don't see the praises that the game gets. From Software games are just overrated. Hopefully they won't f*ck up Armored Core V.

Well er, discuss? This is a bit of a rant but I tried to make it System Worthy. >.>

Skyrim is the Game of the Year. Game of the Generation. Game of the Decade. Game of the Forever. Dark Souls is a cheap sequel to a good game that was highly overrated in the first place.charizard1605

I agree, Godrim is superior in everyway.

No clue, both look pretty boring

I agree, Godrim is superior in everyway.

Snyper007-2

Dark Souls is better than Skyrim in almost every conceivable way. Skyrim is very mediocre and it's popularity baffles me. Yeah it's a big game and it's visuals really impressed me considering it's scope but all the little things you can do don't impress me a bit considering it's terrible animations, terrible voice acting, terrible combat, and it's obviously bad frame rate and game breaking bugs.

Dark Souls is better in everything except graphics, think its time to get over it. silversix_

I have nothing to get over. I just don't understand the praises Dark Souls get.

No clue, both look pretty boring

finalstar2007

:|

Ive played both but only beat Dark Souls.
Idk, theyre both pretty different games so its hard to compare.
I personally prefer Dark Souls so far tho. The combat is just so well done and the design of the world and its monsters is simply amazing.

Dark Souls is better than Skyrim in almost every conceivable way. Skyrim is very mediocre and it's popularity baffles me. Yeah it's a big game and it's visuals really impressed me considering it's scope but all the little things you can do don't impress me a bit considering it's terrible animations, terrible voice acting, terrible combat, and it's obviously bad frame rate and game breaking bugs.

Jolt_counter119

I haven't encountered any game breaking bugs though.

Skyrim is the Game of the Year. Game of the Generation. Game of the Decade. Game of the Forever.charizard1605

The Game of Foevar already bores me, within a week....

Haven't played dark soul. Don't have ps3/xbox360.

Dark Souls is better in everything except graphics, think its time to get over it. silversix_

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

No clue, both look pretty boring

Shirokishi_

:|

Ive played both but only beat Dark Souls.
Idk, theyre both pretty different games so its hard to compare.
I personally prefer Dark Souls so far tho. The combat is just so well done and the design of the world and its monsters is simply amazing.

Are you guys trolling?

Are you guys trolling?

Grawse

But no, I'm serious. There is no way Mediocre Souls has anything on Godrim. Seriously the Game of Forever

[QUOTE="Jolt_counter119"]

Dark Souls is better than Skyrim in almost every conceivable way. Skyrim is very mediocre and it's popularity baffles me. Yeah it's a big game and it's visuals really impressed me considering it's scope but all the little things you can do don't impress me a bit considering it's terrible animations, terrible voice acting, terrible combat, and it's obviously bad frame rate and game breaking bugs.

timmy00

I haven't encountered any game breaking bugs though.

Even without game breaking bugs the games is not that great. They threw everything out on the back burner in favor of making a more open free game. That's nice I usually like huge, open, free games with terrible...well basically everything else but at least Skyrim had good visuals.

But after playing a such a good game like Dark Souls and Demon Souls I have a hard time putting up with terrible combat now,, also level scaling is ridiculous.

Are you guys trolling?

Grawse

Dark Souls just got some annoying problems that really just drags the game down.

[QUOTE="silversix_"]Dark Souls is better in everything except graphics, think its time to get over it. timmy00

I have nothing to get over. I just don't understand the praises Dark Souls get.

[QUOTE="Grawse"]

Are you guys trolling?

charizard1605

But no, I'm serious. There is no way Mediocre Souls has anything on Godrim. Seriously the Game of Forever

Was this you're first elder scrolls or something? There really isn't much progress in this game from the others, in fact there is less skills, less attributes, less customisation, less apparel slots, less spell effects, etc.

Although I think there is more armour and weapons than oblivion and more guilds, plus dragon shouts. But yeah they are pretty much turning it into an action adventure and less of an rpg...yet they still keep the crap combat.

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="silversix_"]Dark Souls is better in everything except graphics, think its time to get over it. silversix_

I have nothing to get over. I just don't understand the praises Dark Souls get.

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="Jolt_counter119"]

Dark Souls is better than Skyrim in almost every conceivable way. Skyrim is very mediocre and it's popularity baffles me. Yeah it's a big game and it's visuals really impressed me considering it's scope but all the little things you can do don't impress me a bit considering it's terrible animations, terrible voice acting, terrible combat, and it's obviously bad frame rate and game breaking bugs.

Jolt_counter119

I haven't encountered any game breaking bugs though.

Even without game breaking bugs the games is not that great. They threw everything out on the back burner in favor of making a more open free game. That's nice I usually like huge, open, free games with terrible...well basically everything else but at least Skyrim had good visuals.

But after playing a such a good game like Dark Souls and Demon Souls I have a hard time putting up with terrible combat now,, also level scaling is ridiculous.

Dark Souls frame drops are just way too frequent and gets in the way of my enjoyment.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

[QUOTE="Grawse"]

Are you guys trolling?

Jolt_counter119

But no, I'm serious. There is no way Mediocre Souls has anything on Godrim. Seriously the Game of Forever

Was this you're first elder scrolls or something? There really isn't much progress in this game from the others, in fact there is less skills, less attributes, less customisation, less apparel slots, less spell effects, etc.

Although I think there is more armour and weapons than oblivion and more guilds, plus dragon shouts. But yeah they are pretty much turning it into an action adventure and less of an rpg...yet they still keep the crap combat.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

[QUOTE="Grawse"]

Are you guys trolling?

Jolt_counter119

But no, I'm serious. There is no way Mediocre Souls has anything on Godrim. Seriously the Game of Forever

Was this you're first elder scrolls or something? There really isn't much progress in this game from the others, in fact there is less skills, less attributes, less customisation, less apparel slots, less spell effects, etc.

Although I think there is more armour and weapons than oblivion and more guilds, plus dragon shouts. But yeah they are pretty much turning it into an action adventure and less of an rpg...yet they still keep the crap combat.

I like how TC makes his point by stating NOTHING but opinions, and ironically he comes off as a tool.

Not as hard? Then why complain about the need for a map? They kind of cancel eachother out, unless you get lost or hate exploring.

Some people are just... so dumb, or really feel like trolling.

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="silversix_"]Dark Souls is better in everything except graphics, think its time to get over it. silversix_

I have nothing to get over. I just don't understand the praises Dark Souls get.

I like how TC makes his point by stating NOTHING but opinions, and ironically he comes off as a tool.

Not as hard? Then why complain about the need for a map? They kind of cancel eachother out, unless you get lost or hate exploring.

Some people are just... so dumb, or really feel like trolling.

SPYDER0416

I complain about the lack of a map because it would make remembering certain places easier. It's just that simple.

Man sometimes I just get a feeling some people are just praising Dark Souls because it tries to be "different" or that the game makes them "hardcore" or some sh*t.

Well Dark Souls is a hard game and Skyrim isn't, hell leveling up increases your offense and defense without smithing, and the bosses in Skyrim are a joke, none of them touch The Four Kings and the 2 statue bosses.

Took me 61 hours to beat Dark Souls's main quest, took me 14 hours to beat Skyrim's main quest. Some main and side quests just aren't that fun in Skyrim.

Dark Souls has bugs, but Skyrim is buggier and less stable, I had a crash, floating above the ground, and enemies that get stuck in the environment. There's a quest I'm doing now that has a game breaking bug and I have to be careful.

Combat is way better in Dark Souls.

Dark Souls has better atmosphere.

I love Skyrim and will keep playing it, and is easily GOTY material, but perfect it is not, and being better than Dark Souls is debatable since I had fun with that too.

TC I'm pretty sure you are either retarded or have no idea how an opinion works.

You should look up opinion. I have Skyrim on PC and Dark Souls on PS3, and I prefer Dark Souls, as KevinV does. Questioning the opinions of others do to personal issues you have is just... well, its dumb, and I guess it perfectly encapsulates the SW experience, so congratulations on making another dumb and forgettable "blog it" thread on SW about your opinion on a game over another game and how much we should all give a s*** (hint: there are none given).

Being a game that is actually high quality and polished doesn't hurt....

I guess you can have an argument for skyrim if you prefer a game being good at everything and great at nothing.

TC I'm pretty sure you are either retarded or have no idea how an opinion works.

You should look up opinion. I have Skyrim on PC and Dark Souls on PS3, and I prefer Dark Souls, as KevinV does. Questioning the opinions of others do to personal issues you have is just... well, its dumb, and I guess it perfectly encapsulates the SW experience, so congratulations on making another dumb and forgettable "blog it" thread on SW about your opinion on a game over another game and how much we should all give a s*** (hint: there are none given).

SPYDER0416

I know what an opinion is. It's f*cking sad that you don't though. I'm not stating what I'm saying as a fact. Only you are.;)

I got a brilliant idea for you. You don't have to post. Keep your opinion to yourself. I clearly don't give a f*ck. I'm respecting everyone else opinion here and just expressing mine.

Come back when you actually have something to contribute. mmkay?

Being a game that is actually high quality and polished doesn't hurt....

I guess you can have an argument for skyrim if you prefer a game being good at everything and great at nothing.

casharmy

I personally think they're both quality games. Both fun in there own way. Both got problems. That's just me though.

TC I'm pretty sure you are either retarded or have no idea how an opinion works.

You should look up opinion. I have Skyrim on PC and Dark Souls on PS3, and I prefer Dark Souls, as KevinV does. Questioning the opinions of others do to personal issues you have is just... well, its dumb, and I guess it perfectly encapsulates the SW experience, so congratulations on making another dumb and forgettable "blog it" thread on SW about your opinion on a game over another game and how much we should all give a s*** (hint: there are none given).

SPYDER0416

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

TC I'm pretty sure you are either retarded or have no idea how an opinion works.

You should look up opinion. I have Skyrim on PC and Dark Souls on PS3, and I prefer Dark Souls, as KevinV does. Questioning the opinions of others do to personal issues you have is just... well, its dumb, and I guess it perfectly encapsulates the SW experience, so congratulations on making another dumb and forgettable "blog it" thread on SW about your opinion on a game over another game and how much we should all give a s*** (hint: there are none given).

charizard1605

It's not my fault he entered this topic thinking I wasn't stating my own opinion. That's pretty stupid of him. I'm generally a nice guy but not to people like him.

No clue, both look pretty boring

finalstar2007

Now if only you could combine the two. Skyrim mods don't fail me now.siLVURcross

Yes, dark souls isn't perfect.

I would love to have more branching conversations with NPC's and maybe a question, choice responce system like Mass Effect or the Elder Scrolls serise has...but I wouldn't change anything about the game world or any other elements that went into the Dark Souls universe-except for making it more like Demon's souls.

Skyrim was kinda boring. The world may be big but I spent most of the time walking towards my next objective with nothing really exciting happening. I'd rather have smaller but more event filled maps than a vast, mostly empty map. The combat system also fell flat compared to Dark Souls; half the time I couldn't tell if I was actually doing damage to what I was fighting.

[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="timmy00"]It's only better if you like boring ass games. Dark Souls is just poorly designed and not fun at times.

I have nothing to get over. I just don't understand the praises Dark Souls get.

Grawse

[QUOTE="Grawse"]

[QUOTE="silversix_"]You're calling DkS boring but not Skyrim? Combat alone destroys the *fun factor*. Exploration is waaaay better in Dks too. Skyrim is maybe 100 times bigger but close to everything looks the same... even quests feels the same and when you have like over 1k quests that feels the same, its just baaad.

savagetwinkie

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Now if only you could combine the two. Skyrim mods don't fail me now.casharmy

Yes, dark souls isn't perfect.

I would love to have more branching conversations with NPC's and maybe a question, choice responce system like Mass Effect or the Elder Scrolls serise has...but I wouldn't change anything about the game world or any other elements that went into the Dark Souls universe-except for making it more like Demon's souls.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="Grawse"]Pretty much how I feel. Who cares if Skyrim is bigger when everything looks the same. It's not fun to run around empty land killing wolves. The enviroments in Dark Souls varies so much and the atomosphere for each one is different.

Grawse

Most obvious answer: it doesn't have as many bugs or technical issues. It's nice playing a game you can count on running efficiently.