How Dark Souls ever got a higher score than Skyrim here is beyond me

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

That's the reason I'm not buying it.Everyone says the same thing about it,just like you did,OP.

timmy00

Dark Souls is a game for the patient not for some dorks can't be faced with a challenge.

Skyrim is generally accepted as the superior game.

1. Much higher meta critic score.

2. Much higher Gamerankings score.

3. Many many many more awards. (GOTY/RPGOTY)

4. Better gfx (PC version)

5. Mods.

I'd say Darks Souls is bit better now that I've played Skyrim for a bit.

• Dark Souls combat is far superior to Skyrim. It's not even a contest. You can duel wield any thing, two hand anything, different animations for every weapon in Dark Souls.
• The enemy design in Dark Souls is also better. The only stand out enemy from Skyrim is Dragons and the Dwemer centuarians, while Dark Souls has new enemies for every area and they're actually well designed.
• Dungeon design is another thing Dark Souls wins in. While Skyrim improves exponentially over Oblivion, it still doesn't compare to Dark Souls.
• Personally Dark Souls also wins in music and art styyle, though Skyrim is pretty good in these areas as well.

The only thing Skyrim does better than Dark Souls is a large world and fun exploration.

Thefatness16

Better enemies? You're fighting skeletons/zombie guys half the time in Dark Souls and honestly the only enemy design I would praise are the bosses.

And the soundtrack? Sure its pretty good but you only hear music when you're fighting bosses which is a fraction of the game. The rest of the time you're only listening to the footsteps and ruffles of you're characters feet. The music is almost non existent.

I will give Dark Souls credit for some level design, Skyrims Dungeons are too linear and even a step down from New Vegas, however better than Oblivion. The stand out areas in Dark Souls for me were the Painted World of Aramis and New Londo Ruins.

[QUOTE="NotAFanboy7"]

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

From what i heard the only thing skyrim does better is open world. Dark Souls does everything else better.

eboyishere

You heard wrong.

Do you think skyrim's combat is actually good? :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7trmEmI5Js

Skyrim is the most overrated game this gen. Every aspect of it is mediocre.

[QUOTE="Thefatness16"]

I'd say Darks Souls is bit better now that I've played Skyrim for a bit.

• Dark Souls combat is far superior to Skyrim. It's not even a contest. You can duel wield any thing, two hand anything, different animations for every weapon in Dark Souls.
• The enemy design in Dark Souls is also better. The only stand out enemy from Skyrim is Dragons and the Dwemer centuarians, while Dark Souls has new enemies for every area and they're actually well designed.
• Dungeon design is another thing Dark Souls wins in. While Skyrim improves exponentially over Oblivion, it still doesn't compare to Dark Souls.
• Personally Dark Souls also wins in music and art styyle, though Skyrim is pretty good in these areas as well.

The only thing Skyrim does better than Dark Souls is a large world and fun exploration.

HoolaHoopMan

Better enemies? You're fighting skeletons/zombie guys half the time in Dark Souls and honestly the only enemy design I would praise are the bosses.

And the soundtrack? Sure its pretty good but you only hear music when you're fighting bosses which is a fraction of the game. The rest of the time you're only listening to the footsteps and ruffles of you're characters feet. The music is almost non existent.

I will give Dark Souls credit for some level design, Skyrims Dungeons are too linear and even a step down from New Vegas, however better than Oblivion. The stand out areas in Dark Souls for me were the Painted World of Aramis and New Londo Ruins.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7trmEmI5Js

Skyrim is the most overrated game this gen. Every aspect of it is mediocre.

Peredith

:lol: So damn funny...i'm beggining to think that Skyrim is indeed good...at least for the laughs.

Man sometimes I just get a feeling some people are just praising Dark Souls because it tries to be "different" or that the game makes them "hardcore" or some sh*t.timmy00

[QUOTE="Thefatness16"]

I'd say Darks Souls is bit better now that I've played Skyrim for a bit.

• Dark Souls combat is far superior to Skyrim. It's not even a contest. You can duel wield any thing, two hand anything, different animations for every weapon in Dark Souls.
• The enemy design in Dark Souls is also better. The only stand out enemy from Skyrim is Dragons and the Dwemer centuarians, while Dark Souls has new enemies for every area and they're actually well designed.
• Dungeon design is another thing Dark Souls wins in. While Skyrim improves exponentially over Oblivion, it still doesn't compare to Dark Souls.
• Personally Dark Souls also wins in music and art styyle, though Skyrim is pretty good in these areas as well.

The only thing Skyrim does better than Dark Souls is a large world and fun exploration.

HoolaHoopMan

Better enemies? You're fighting skeletons/zombie guys half the time in Dark Souls and honestly the only enemy design I would praise are the bosses.

What's this talk about graphics? Skyrim hasaverage graphics while whenever I see a screenshot of Dark Souls I'm left in disbelief that any game could produce that kind of quality for its visuals.

(For fairness I used one of the most hyped aspect of Skyrim in this comparison)

I haven't played either of the games so the only comment I can make on gameplay is what I know from my long (but forced) time with Oblivion, which after about 10 hours reached a point where I was forcing myself to play because of the game's reputation. Mybiggest issue with the game were that it lacked anything to set itself apart from a generic medieval-fantasy setting, after being spoiled (or loosened... If you get what I mean) by The Lord of the Rings' imagery, Oblivion was pretty boring to look at. There was also the way the AI were so... inhuman, walking up to one another and spouting groundless comments such as "They say that when you murder someone the Dark Brotherhood visits you in your sleep.", why would you say that, to anyone, ever. Then the main quest was just a series of "get this", "talk to this guy" and "go here" quests, so were most of the side missions... To be honest, I'm amazed that I managed to play for that initial 10 hours, but I guess the exploration was good...

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

That's the reason I'm not buying it.Everyone says the same thing about it,just like you did,OP.

freedomfreak

Seems to be a lot of Dark Souls love, I like this.

in response to your thread i shall say this tc, dark souls has better gameplay then skyrim, thats something thats kinda important to games, kind of like...the most important thing a game can have going for it

[QUOTE="Thefatness16"]

HoolaHoopMan

Better enemies? You're fighting skeletons/zombie guys half the time in Dark Souls and honestly the only enemy design I would praise are the bosses.

I thought Skyrim was filled with Draugr.... like half of the locations (caves/tombs) are filled with Draugr mobs and their level scaled cousins...

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]

[QUOTE="Thefatness16"]

ghostofzabis

Better enemies? You're fighting skeletons/zombie guys half the time in Dark Souls and honestly the only enemy design I would praise are the bosses.

I thought Skyrim was filled with Draugr.... like half of the locations (caves/tombs) are filled with Draugr mobs and their level scaled cousins...

in response to your thread i shall say this tc, dark souls has better gameplay then skyrim, thats something thats kinda important to games, kind of like...the most important thing a game can have going for it

linkin_guy109

[QUOTE="linkin_guy109"]

in response to your thread i shall say this tc, dark souls has better gameplay then skyrim, thats something thats kinda important to games, kind of like...the most important thing a game can have going for it

savagetwinkie

[QUOTE="Thefatness16"]

I'd say Darks Souls is bit better now that I've played Skyrim for a bit.

• Dark Souls combat is far superior to Skyrim. It's not even a contest. You can duel wield any thing, two hand anything, different animations for every weapon in Dark Souls.
• The enemy design in Dark Souls is also better. The only stand out enemy from Skyrim is Dragons and the Dwemer centuarians, while Dark Souls has new enemies for every area and they're actually well designed.
• Dungeon design is another thing Dark Souls wins in. While Skyrim improves exponentially over Oblivion, it still doesn't compare to Dark Souls.
• Personally Dark Souls also wins in music and art styyle, though Skyrim is pretty good in these areas as well.

The only thing Skyrim does better than Dark Souls is a large world and fun exploration.

HoolaHoopMan

Better enemies? You're fighting skeletons/zombie guys half the time in Dark Souls and honestly the only enemy design I would praise are the bosses.

And the soundtrack? Sure its pretty good but you only hear music when you're fighting bosses which is a fraction of the game. The rest of the time you're only listening to the footsteps and ruffles of you're characters feet. The music is almost non existent.

I will give Dark Souls credit for some level design, Skyrims Dungeons are too linear and even a step down from New Vegas, however better than Oblivion. The stand out areas in Dark Souls for me were the Painted World of Aramis and New Londo Ruins.

There's plenty more than enemies than just skeletons/zombies. All enemies also feel unique due to different weapons, attack animations, and design. Skyrim just reuses the same enemies with different names.

I put Dark Souls above Skyrim in music because the only song I liked was the main theme. I can't even remember any songs in Skyrim beside that one.

[QUOTE="ghostofzabis"]

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]

Better enemies? You're fighting skeletons/zombie guys half the time in Dark Souls and honestly the only enemy design I would praise are the bosses.

savagetwinkie

I thought Skyrim was filled with Draugr.... like half of the locations (caves/tombs) are filled with Draugr mobs and their level scaled cousins...

To me, seeing draugr too often kind tires me. And, when I fought some other humanoid enemies, they felt the same (they use the same AI I assume? feel like fighting the same enemies all the time) except for a few that get shouts... Bandits / forsworn / Draugr / Necromancer / Falmer / etc. all have some "spellcasters" who can cast spells (and there are only a few spells enemies would cast in the game), so the only thing different I found from the humanoid enemies are the shouts... feel like fighting the same enemies with different skin all the time till I found it extremely repetitive and quit.

because different people have different opinions, what's so hard to understand?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7trmEmI5Js

Skyrim is the most overrated game this gen. Every aspect of it is mediocre.

Peredith

I wish I had capped some of the glitches I had. One time, some wisps were attacking during a Mage's quest, and from a distance i saw my horse(Shadowmere) fly up into the air about 30 feet and then die when it hit the ground.

Strange enough though, I haven't seen a lot of those glitches in the PC version, still have yet to see a backwards flying dragon.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="ghostofzabis"]

I thought Skyrim was filled with Draugr.... like half of the locations (caves/tombs) are filled with Draugr mobs and their level scaled cousins...

ghostofzabis

To me, seeing draugr too often kind tires me. And, when I fought some other humanoid enemies, they felt the same (they use the same AI I assume? feel like fighting the same enemies all the time) except for a few that get shouts... Bandits / forsworn / Draugr / Necromancer / Falmer / etc. all have some "spellcasters" who can cast spells (and there are only a few spells enemies would cast in the game), so the only thing different I found from the humanoid enemies are the shouts... feel like fighting the same enemies with different skin all the time till I found it extremely repetitive and quit.

What's this talk about graphics? Skyrim hasaverage graphics while whenever I see a screenshot of Dark Souls I'm left in disbelief that any game could produce that kind of quality for its visuals.

(For fairness I used one of the most hyped aspect of Skyrim in this comparison)

I haven't played either of the games so the only comment I can make on gameplay is what I know from my long (but forced) time with Oblivion, which after about 10 hours reached a point where I was forcing myself to play because of the game's reputation. Mybiggest issue with the game were that it lacked anything to set itself apart from a generic medieval-fantasy setting, after being spoiled (or loosened... If you get what I mean) by The Lord of the Rings' imagery, Oblivion was pretty boring to look at. There was also the way the AI were so... inhuman, walking up to one another and spouting groundless comments such as "They say that when you murder someone the Dark Brotherhood visits you in your sleep.", why would you say that, to anyone, ever. Then the main quest was just a series of "get this", "talk to this guy" and "go here" quests, so were most of the side missions... To be honest, I'm amazed that I managed to play for that initial 10 hours, but I guess the exploration was good...

DARKNESSxEAGLE

I love when people use some crappy little image they found on the internet. The image is so small, you can barely see anything anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyjWkrfINE0

Skyrim=Awful combat,story,quests copy paste dungeons,enemies that are stupid as hell and are one shot when you hit level 10+ do I have to go on?

Skyrim is boring. Its gameplay, especially combat sucks compared Dark Souls. Only thing Skyrim has better is the graphics.

The thread might have a few small spoilers so watch out. Nothing about the story though.

So I've been playing a lot of Skyrim and Dark Souls recently. I hear so many praises for Dark Souls that I just had to try it. I didn't expect much from the game and I was right.

Dark Souls has so many problems that it's not even funny. The biggest thing I'd noticed was that the game wasn't that hard at all. People here act all mighty and sh*t when they beat the game or act like they're "hardcore". The game isn't that hard. Assuming you don't act like a total idiot, you'll be fine. For the most part. When the game does get hard, it's borderline cheap. You get forced into a corner by five ghosts? Good luck. Oh a boss fight with two gargoyles and one of them keeps breathing fire while the other attacks? Yeah that's fair. These moments are completely unfair and just not well done.

Another problem with Dark Souls is a lack of an ingame map. The world is huge. That's one of the best things about Dark Souls but why no map? Was the dev trying to make the game harder by not including a map? All it does is add more pointless backtracking.

Oh and don't get me started on the online play. The ideas of leaving notes behind is cool. I like that. The co-op is not good though. There's so many bullsh*t restrictions and other crap. What if I just want to go through the world with a buddy? Well you better be at the same level at all times.

Let looks at Skyrim. The world is huge and beautiful. There's so much to do and the game is rarely cheap. It makes you want to explore for hours. It's just an all around good game. Sure there's a few glitches but nothing game breaking.

Both games have one common problem though. Both have random frame drops. They're both quite noticeable and annoying. I was told it was only a problem in a certain area for Dark Souls but it seems to happen everywhere. The game is still playable but it gets on your nerves. It's not a huge deal for Skyrim (even more so if you play it on PC) but for a game like Dark Souls, it's just stupid.

I have many more gripes but I don't want to write a novel. Dark Souls isn't a bad game. It's quite addicting. I just don't see the praises that the game gets. From Software games are just overrated. Hopefully they won't f*ck up Armored Core V.

Well er, discuss? This is a bit of a rant but I tried to make it System Worthy. >.>

timmy00

Your biggest problem is not grasping what From Software is trying to do. All the places you consider cheap has a solution. You can summon Solaire to help you with the Gargoyles. You obviously rushed into the building with ghost. I didn't, and didn't get cornered.

No map? Typical. From Software's style is to make a game that doesn't give you anything that you wouldn't normally have if it were real life. If you were adventuring in real life, you'd think you'd conveniently have a map? No. Will everyone just start yapping about their personal problems or the history of the place, or why you're there, or what you'd have to do? No. That's why it is the way it is. If you can let go the notion that you should be getting what a game would normally give you as a luxury, you'd be fine. And instead, try thinking, if you were the character in Dark Souls, and locked up in a prison....do you need an earth shattering epic quest as a motivation to get out of your cell? No. If someone dropped the key in front of you, will you just get the hell out? Yes. If someone gave you a hint that the state of being hollow will last forever unless you ring two bells, would you just...try and ring those bells? Probably.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="linkin_guy109"]

in response to your thread i shall say this tc, dark souls has better gameplay then skyrim, thats something thats kinda important to games, kind of like...the most important thing a game can have going for it

linkin_guy109

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

The thread might have a few small spoilers so watch out. Nothing about the story though.

So I've been playing a lot of Skyrim and Dark Souls recently. I hear so many praises for Dark Souls that I just had to try it. I didn't expect much from the game and I was right.

Dark Souls has so many problems that it's not even funny. The biggest thing I'd noticed was that the game wasn't that hard at all. People here act all mighty and sh*t when they beat the game or act like they're "hardcore". The game isn't that hard. Assuming you don't act like a total idiot, you'll be fine. For the most part. When the game does get hard, it's borderline cheap. You get forced into a corner by five ghosts? Good luck. Oh a boss fight with two gargoyles and one of them keeps breathing fire while the other attacks? Yeah that's fair. These moments are completely unfair and just not well done.

Another problem with Dark Souls is a lack of an ingame map. The world is huge. That's one of the best things about Dark Souls but why no map? Was the dev trying to make the game harder by not including a map? All it does is add more pointless backtracking.

Oh and don't get me started on the online play. The ideas of leaving notes behind is cool. I like that. The co-op is not good though. There's so many bullsh*t restrictions and other crap. What if I just want to go through the world with a buddy? Well you better be at the same level at all times.

Let looks at Skyrim. The world is huge and beautiful. There's so much to do and the game is rarely cheap. It makes you want to explore for hours. It's just an all around good game. Sure there's a few glitches but nothing game breaking.

Both games have one common problem though. Both have random frame drops. They're both quite noticeable and annoying. I was told it was only a problem in a certain area for Dark Souls but it seems to happen everywhere. The game is still playable but it gets on your nerves. It's not a huge deal for Skyrim (even more so if you play it on PC) but for a game like Dark Souls, it's just stupid.

I have many more gripes but I don't want to write a novel. Dark Souls isn't a bad game. It's quite addicting. I just don't see the praises that the game gets. From Software games are just overrated. Hopefully they won't f*ck up Armored Core V.

Well er, discuss? This is a bit of a rant but I tried to make it System Worthy. >.>

jhcho2

Your biggest problem is not grasping what From Software is trying to do. All the places you consider cheap has a solution. You can summon Solaire to help you with the Gargoyles. You obviously rushed into the building with ghost. I didn't, and didn't get cornered.

No map? Typical. From Software's style is to make a game that doesn't give you anything that you wouldn't normally have if it were real life. If you were adventuring in real life, you'd think you'd conveniently have a map? No. Will everyone just start yapping about their personal problems or the history of the place, or why you're there, or what you'd have to do? No. That's why it is the way it is. If you can let go the notion that you should be getting what a game would normally give you as a luxury, you'd be fine. And instead, try thinking, if you were the character in Dark Souls, and locked up in a prison....do you need an earth shattering epic quest as a motivation to get out of your cell? No. If someone dropped the key in front of you, will you just get the hell out? Yes. If someone gave you a hint that the state of being hollow will last forever unless you ring two bells, would you just...try and ring those bells? Probably.

Skyrim has this blind hype following it. Dark Souls has solid gameplay to back it up. Dark Souls is a better game; 9.5 > 9.0

DEAL WITH IT.

Skyrim has this blind hype following it. Dark Souls has solid gameplay to back it up. Dark Souls is a better game; 9.5 > 9.0

DEAL WITH IT.

DrTrafalgarLaw

Thats some long hype to win rpggoty and goty over DS at nearly every site/magazine over a month after release.

We all know what game is officially better.

Except Skyrim suffers from mediocre writing, repetitive quests and a boring story. It doesn't get off scott-free.DragonfireXZ95

Pretty much, Skyrim has its own problems.

I don't understand why its hard for people to be stupid and be unable to accept that some people like different things. Yes TC, we get it, you prefer Skyrim and are wondering why the reviewer didn't, except its kind of (ok REALLY) stupid to not consider maybe that the reviewer liked the good things about Dark Souls more then the good things about Skyrim, and was more peeved by Skyrim's issues.

But whatever, if people want to use SW as an impromptu blog that is there problem. Surprised so many people replied considering how overdone this question is.

GOTY.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Except Skyrim suffers from mediocre writing, repetitive quests and a boring story. It doesn't get off scott-free.SPYDER0416

Pretty much, Skyrim has its own problems.

I don't understand why its hard for people to be stupid and be unable to accept that some people like different things. Yes TC, we get it, you prefer Skyrim and are wondering why the reviewer didn't, except its kind of (ok REALLY) stupid to not consider maybe that the reviewer liked the good things about Dark Souls more then the good things about Skyrim, and was more peeved by Skyrim's issues.

But whatever, if people want to use SW as an impromptu blog that is there problem. Surprised so many people replied considering how overdone this question is.

I'm sorry you took my post the wrong way. I'm a nice guy but as*holes like you don't deserve my kindness. Learn how to take an opinion and not the System Wars bait. The title was meant to get idiots like you in here. :)

and my point still stands. Yes I prefer Skyrim and I don't really care if the reviewer preferred Dark Souls. I do respect his opinion though. I don't see how Dark Souls can get such a high score objectively with some of the flaws it has. That's just me though. (Read the word me again. You obviously don't understand that I'm just stating my opinion.)

I'm suprised Skyrim got more than an 7.5. It has no outstanding qualities, just alot of half baked mediocre qualities. It's only redeeming factor is the huge world. It's quests are so awful it's hard to tell what was randomly generated using the Radiant Story and what was handcrafted by Bethesda. The main quest was laughably bad too. :? Then there's the huge amount of bugs and the fact the game is broken on the PS3... :?

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

jhcho2

Your biggest problem is not grasping what From Software is trying to do. All the places you consider cheap has a solution. You can summon Solaire to help you with the Gargoyles. You obviously rushed into the building with ghost. I didn't, and didn't get cornered.

No map? Typical. From Software's style is to make a game that doesn't give you anything that you wouldn't normally have if it were real life. If you were adventuring in real life, you'd think you'd conveniently have a map? No. Will everyone just start yapping about their personal problems or the history of the place, or why you're there, or what you'd have to do? No. That's why it is the way it is. If you can let go the notion that you should be getting what a game would normally give you as a luxury, you'd be fine. And instead, try thinking, if you were the character in Dark Souls, and locked up in a prison....do you need an earth shattering epic quest as a motivation to get out of your cell? No. If someone dropped the key in front of you, will you just get the hell out? Yes. If someone gave you a hint that the state of being hollow will last forever unless you ring two bells, would you just...try and ring those bells? Probably.

I can understand where they're going with the no map but I rather have one just so I know where I've been and where I still need to explore. Plenty of other games give you a map with no real explanation. This is just a pet peeve of mine though.

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Except Skyrim suffers from mediocre writing, repetitive quests and a boring story. It doesn't get off scott-free.timmy00

Pretty much, Skyrim has its own problems.

I don't understand why its hard for people to be stupid and be unable to accept that some people like different things. Yes TC, we get it, you prefer Skyrim and are wondering why the reviewer didn't, except its kind of (ok REALLY) stupid to not consider maybe that the reviewer liked the good things about Dark Souls more then the good things about Skyrim, and was more peeved by Skyrim's issues.

But whatever, if people want to use SW as an impromptu blog that is there problem. Surprised so many people replied considering how overdone this question is.

I'm sorry you took my post the wrong way. I'm a nice guy but as*holes like you don't deserve my kindness. Learn how to take an opinion and not the System Wars bait. The title was meant to get idiots like you in here. :)

and my point still stands. Yes I prefer Skyrim and I don't really care if the reviewer preferred Dark Souls. I do respect his opinion though. I don't see how Dark Souls can get such a high score objectively with some of the flaws it has. That's just me though. (Read the word me again. You obviously don't understand that I'm just stating my opinion.)

Its good to see when you can't accept what an "opinion" is, you just pretend one game is objectively better then the other.

I guess the glitches, poor writing, dated combat, level scaling, vast empty areas, unimaginitive enemies, static world, boring dragon fights, stupid enemy AI and all those other problems in Skyrim should just be ignored right? Especially when those are actual flaws over what, no map? Less hard then you thought combat? :lol: That's certainly reaching.

Pointing out flaws goes both ways, still doesn't give this thread a point other then the extra attention you'd get here instead of on your blog by posting an opinion that isn't changing the score (or what anyone else thinks) anytime soon. I like both games, but I won't whine if some other game I like less gets a better score, because I'm not an idiot who whines about that sort of thing.

:cool:

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

Pretty much, Skyrim has its own problems.

I don't understand why its hard for people to be stupid and be unable to accept that some people like different things. Yes TC, we get it, you prefer Skyrim and are wondering why the reviewer didn't, except its kind of (ok REALLY) stupid to not consider maybe that the reviewer liked the good things about Dark Souls more then the good things about Skyrim, and was more peeved by Skyrim's issues.

But whatever, if people want to use SW as an impromptu blog that is there problem. Surprised so many people replied considering how overdone this question is.

SPYDER0416

I'm sorry you took my post the wrong way. I'm a nice guy but as*holes like you don't deserve my kindness. Learn how to take an opinion and not the System Wars bait. The title was meant to get idiots like you in here. :)

and my point still stands. Yes I prefer Skyrim and I don't really care if the reviewer preferred Dark Souls. I do respect his opinion though. I don't see how Dark Souls can get such a high score objectively with some of the flaws it has. That's just me though. (Read the word me again. You obviously don't understand that I'm just stating my opinion.)

Its good to see when you can't accept what an "opinion" is, you just pretend one game is objectively better then the other.

I guess the glitches, poor writing, dated combat, level scaling, vast empty areas, unimaginitive enemies, static world, boring dragon fights, stupid enemy AI and all those other problems in Skyrim should just be ignored right? Especially when those are actual flaws over what, no map? Less hard then you thought combat? :lol: That's certainly reaching.

Pointing out flaws goes both ways, still doesn't give this thread a point other then the extra attention you'd get here instead of on your blog by posting an opinion that isn't changing the score (or what anyone else thinks) anytime soon. I like both games, but I won't whine if some other game I like less gets a better score, because I'm not an idiot who whines about that sort of thing.

:cool:

Yes Skyrim got problems. Many problems like Dark Souls. I just prefer it over it DkS. I said the no map part was more of a pet peeve and just really annoying. Sorry that you don't like having something that tell you were you been and where you still got to explore.

I made the thread because I could. Don't like it? There should be a button you can click called System Wars. Please click it.

Also almost half of what you listed is subjective. :/

Its good to see when you can't accept what an "opinion" is, you just pretend one game is objectively better then the other.

SPYDER0416

I guess the glitches, poor writing, dated combat, level scaling, vast empty areas, unimaginitive enemies, static world, boring dragon fights, stupid enemy AI and all those other problems in Skyrim should just be ignored right? Especially when those are actual flaws over what, no map? Less hard then you thought combat? :lol: That's certainly reaching.

Pointing out flaws goes both ways, still doesn't give this thread a point other then the extra attention you'd get here instead of on your blog by posting an opinion that isn't changing the score (or what anyone else thinks) anytime soon. I like both games, but I won't whine if some other game I like less gets a better score, because I'm not an idiot who whines about that sort of thing.

:cool:

SPYDER0416

static worldSPYDER0416

Well you didn't show him any mercy. :P

Wow, didn't realize I could rile up two Skyrim fanboys so much :lol:

I guess TC stating objectivity still makes him come off as simply stating his opinion eh?

Though I guess calling this topic "bait" when everyone shows TC how wrong he is is a good way to pretend you didn't waste space and time constantly trying to prove you are right :cool:

But if TC wants to keep wondering aloud without accepting what other people like, that is his problem I guess.

Wow, didn't realize I could rile up two Skyrim fanboys so much :lol:

I guess TC stating objectivity still makes him come off as simply stating his opinion eh?

Though I guess calling this topic "bait" when everyone shows TC how wrong he is is a good way to pretend you didn't waste space and time constantly trying to prove you are right :cool:

But if TC wants to keep wondering aloud without accepting what other people like, that is his problem I guess.

SPYDER0416

You came into this topic being all loud and obnoxious. I must've did something to rile you up. :/

Yes I'm stating my opinion. I threw in a few bait in the topic but it doesn't change the fact that I was stating my opinion. I shouldn't have to say imo.

Have you not read the entire topic? I did accept other people opinion here. :|

TC, you made a topic wondering why a popular game got a high score. If you love Skyrim so much I can only wonder how you would react if someone made a topic calling Skyrim terrible and pointing out all its flaws in an opinionated blog piece.

Hint: It would work just like this thread, and be just as pointless.

Dark Souls is better than Skyrim in almost every conceivable way. Skyrim is very mediocre and it's popularity baffles me. Yeah it's a big game and it's visuals really impressed me considering it's scope but all the little things you can do don't impress me a bit considering it's terrible animations, terrible voice acting, terrible combat, and it's obviously bad frame rate and game breaking bugs.

Jolt_counter119

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Dark Souls is better than Skyrim in almost every conceivable way. Skyrim is very mediocre and it's popularity baffles me. Yeah it's a big game and it's visuals really impressed me considering it's scope but all the little things you can do don't impress me a bit considering it's terrible animations, terrible voice acting, terrible combat, and it's obviously bad frame rate and game breaking bugs.

xXShortroundXx

Dark Souls merely has framerate drops. Skyrim has floating objects, flying people, getting stomped to space....and my favorite....stucked arrows on my forehead. Seriously, all those things kill the feel of the game much much more than framerate drops.

everytime i think of darksouls though this always comes to mindhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYaQgp8DFCk hopefuly few people get the refrence

Skyrim is the Game of the Year. Game of the Generation. Game of the Decade. Game of the Forever. Dark Souls is a cheap sequel to a good game that was highly overrated in the first place.charizard1605