How did Demon's Souls get so popular???

[QUOTE="h575309"]Id still take Mass Effect, Super Mario Galaxy, and probably one other game I cant think of right now haha.Jandurin

so niche is merely who a game is designed for?Jandurin

More or less, but you also have to consider games that have a small following that were an unexpected flop. At a stretch I would include The Conduit in that. I had a response to another post aswell but it signed me out before I could post it, and now I'm raging :x.

In theory Demon's Soul's being a game that has limited appeal and also beingfairly inaccesible would limit it to a niche market. Simply being an Action RPG will not make it instantly appealing to mainstream gamers. As I said before, you would have to know what it was before you bought it.

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[QUOTE="h575309"] Im talking about the games content being "niche". The Conduit is a shooter, in the veign of Halo. The content is not specialized towards a small group of consumers, but to address the needs of the lack of shooters on the Wii. The fact that it was a sales flop and a bad game doesnt make it a niche title. Again, im talking simply about the game content itself.h575309

The game content is only really one factor to consider. Whether or not it's niche depends upon how many titles it sells, and who it is selling too. So if a game get's good feedback from critics and gamers, and the game still has fairly bad sales then it's fair enough to call it niche in most circumstances seeing as it is only selling to a very specific group of gamers. A niche game will have a fairly small yet dedicated following in most circumstances and DS seems to have that.

If a small group of people thought the game was good then you could say it has a niche following, which it does. That's why I said from their perspective. Looking at it from my angle it's not niche, but from another's it would be fair enough to call the title niche if they thought it was underappreciated.

Regardless this does not apply to Demon's Soul's which has both limited appeal and accessibility, but is still generally considered good. It's definately aimed at a limited market.

As I said before, you would have to know what it was before you bought it.

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So what are those other two games?h575309

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As I said before, you would have to know what it was before you bought it.

Jandurin

So what are those other two games?h575309

Have you played The Witcher? Alot of people prefer it to Mass Effect, though personally I still prefer Mass Effect.

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The game content is only really one factor to consider. Whether or not it's niche depends upon how many titles it sells, and who it is selling too. So if a game get's good feedback from critics and gamers, and the game still has fairly bad sales then it's fair enough to call it niche in most circumstances seeing as it is only selling to a very specific group of gamers. A niche game will have a fairly small yet dedicated following in most circumstances and DS seems to have that.

If a small group of people thought the game was good then you could say it has a niche following, which it does. That's why I said from their perspective. Looking at it from my angle it's not niche, but from another's it would be fair enough to call the title niche if they thought it was underappreciated.

Regardless this does not apply to Demon's Soul's which has both limited appeal and accessibility, but is still generally considered good. It's definately aimed at a limited market.

As I said before, you would have to know what it was before you bought it.

So what are those other two games?h575309

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[QUOTE="h575309"] Being a niche title is defined by the market its aimed at. In the case of the conduit, like I had said, the install base is big and has plenty of people who are interested in the genre. The fact that it sold badly has to do with its poor scores and bad marketing, neither of which has any effect on whether the game is "niche" or not.h575309

If a small group of people thought the game was good then you could say it has a niche following, which it does. That's why I said from their perspective. Looking at it from my angle it's not niche, but from another's it would be fair enough to call the title niche if they thought it was underappreciated.

Regardless this does not apply to Demon's Soul's which has both limited appeal and accessibility, but is still generally considered good. It's definately aimed at a limited market.

Ok, but I don't think there is such a thingas a niche genre as there will allways be a few games within that genre which are not typical of other games within the same genre, and that works either way, with mabye a few exceptions for some really obscure genres/games.

Have you played The Witcher? Alot of people prefer it to Mass Effect, though personally I still prefer Mass Effect.

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Have you played The Witcher? Alot of people prefer it to Mass Effect, though personally I still prefer Mass Effect.

Jandurin

So does mine, didn't stop me :P. Though I suppose you would need atleast a dual core, gig of ram and a decent graphics card at the very least toplay it (Which I had at the time.). It's worth playing though, along with Kings Bounty which runssuprisingly well on myPC.

Have you played The Witcher? Alot of people prefer it to Mass Effect, though personally I still prefer Mass Effect.

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Have you played The Witcher? Alot of people prefer it to Mass Effect, though personally I still prefer Mass Effect.

h575309

Because it is great and great games get popular.

[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] my computer sucks.Jandurin

Bah, thats going to be pretty hard now. The only way now is to kill a black phantom no? Second playthrough I guess. I moved onto 1-3, which was surprisingly easy. I havent faced the major demon yet, I got scared haha. Didnt want to lose my souls so I bounced.h575309

So I've been hearing about this game selling out at various gamestops and gamecrazys.

Hopefully this is a good sign about the sales.

On the flip side I hope there's enough copy's this holiday season :(

[QUOTE="h575309"] Bah, thats going to be pretty hard now. The only way now is to kill a black phantom no? Second playthrough I guess. I moved onto 1-3, which was surprisingly easy. I havent faced the major demon yet, I got scared haha. Didnt want to lose my souls so I bounced.Jandurin

So I've been hearing about this game selling out at various gamestops and gamecrazys.

Hopefully this is a good sign about the sales.

On the flip side I hope there's enough copy's this holiday season :(

Shinobishyguy

Amazon will have it. Deluxe edition and regular in stock last time I checked. And cheaper. Buy from Amazon.

Amazon will have it. Deluxe edition and regular in stock last time I checked. And cheaper. Buy from Amazon.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="h575309"] Ive played it. Its not as good as ME in my opinion, but its still good. Demons Souls is better. BTW beat 2-3 last night, pretty easy boss once you figure him out. Still died a bunch figuring out what to do. One hit kills are a biotch. Did you see the sword in that level? Know how to get it?h575309

[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] gotta have pure white world tendency Even after figuring out what to do, he still killed me a few times. Still, definitely worth doing him right then for the archdemon soul and for the crapload of souls.Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="h575309"] Bah, thats going to be pretty hard now. The only way now is to kill a black phantom no? Second playthrough I guess. I moved onto 1-3, which was surprisingly easy. I havent faced the major demon yet, I got scared haha. Didnt want to lose my souls so I bounced.h575309

but I can't find a broken sword!Animal-Mother

I'm sure there is a broken sword in 1-1reiv

[QUOTE="reiv"]I'm sure there is a broken sword in 1-1Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="reiv"]I'm sure there is a broken sword in 1-1Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="reiv"]I'm sure there is a broken sword in 1-1h575309

Everything about the game is amazing. The unique style co-op play is simply mind blowing!

I think I'll beat the world bosses and then go back and turn the world black >_> and see about these black phantoms and suchJandurin

I've got the falcion up to +4 and it's sweet but I still like the winged spear and purple flame shield combo.reiv

[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] see I went through 1-1 like 3 or 4 time last night not a single drop :(Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="reiv"]I've got the falcion up to +4 and it's sweet but I still like the winged spear and purple flame shield combo.Jandurin

[QUOTE="reiv"]I've got the falcion up to +4 and it's sweet but I still like the winged spear and purple flame shield combo.Jandurin

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="reiv"]I've got the falcion up to +4 and it's sweet but I still like the winged spear and purple flame shield combo.h575309

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="h575309"] Yea I have one as well. Im also using the crescent falcion +1. Its the best thing I can find so far. I just picked up the penetrating sword and a flamberge in 1-3, but theyre kind of weak. Have you found or used any dragon swords? h575309

[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] No no dragon swords yet. Just want mah BLUEBLOOD!!!! Also ya the falcion is easily one of the better swords in the game thus far. It's done me well. You use a shield or?Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="reiv"]I've got the falcion up to +4 and it's sweet but I still like the winged spear and purple flame shield combo.reiv

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="h575309"] I think if you upgraded a knight sword to a blessed or moon knight sword +5 it might be more powerful than that. And yea, Im all about the purple flame shield and the crescient falcion. I would like a sword with a bigger reach though, this is why Im looking for one handed swords....h575309

[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] You could try a katana. Also maybe i'll try that. I know the BB stars with 400 damage so. Also there's a awesome Large sword that does 900 you gotta find it in 5-2 as far as shields go im usin a tower shield.Animal-Mother

No doubt and if its as long as the other straight swords it will be sweet. Im not sure if the so called "valuable weapons" are really all that valuable, when upgrading the plain weapons with stones seems to create more powerful weapons.h575309

[QUOTE="h575309"]No doubt and if its as long as the other straight swords it will be sweet. Im not sure if the so called "valuable weapons" are really all that valuable, when upgrading the plain weapons with stones seems to create more powerful weapons.Jandurin

I should have looked at the wiki before doing some of my upgrades. Seems like I've messed up a few.reiv

[QUOTE="reiv"]I should have looked at the wiki before doing some of my upgrades. Seems like I've messed up a few.h575309