How did Halo innovate console FPS?

This isn't a flamebait or anything just to let you all know. I'm just curious to know some of your opinions on this because from where I stand, the only thing it did differently from Medal of Honor and Perfect Dark was vehicle combat. Otherwise I can't think of another gameplay element that was an innovation for console FPS.

Now if you can think of one for me that would be great because I hate to be ignorant on something like this. :p

*pull's hair out of head*

...like it or not..this thread is going to explode into a massive flamewar.

it made rechargable health popular

you didnt have to switch to a grenade to use it

it had vehicle combat that was actually fun

fun co op

fun multiplayer

Halo perfected the dual analog FPS controls. Also was the first big system link game.xXHackettXx

Ok I can see that but I'm talking more from a gameplay perspective. When I hear "innovation" when talking about a game, I automatically think about what it did differently that affected how the game was played and moved the genre foreward.

Halo: Combat Evolved looked at the PC FPSs and said:

"I am equal"

And then PC FPSs moved on and the Halo series didn't.

it made rechargable health popular

Slyprince

Ok theres one. Halo 2 really kick started the movement towards rechargeable health, I remember before you had to look for health packs and Halo got rid of that. And, in my opinion it was for the better.

i'm not so sure but i cant think of any other games before that that used free-roaming vehicles the way halo 1 did

and of course controls for console fps games

it made rechargable health popular

you didnt have to switch to a grenade to use it

it had vehicle combat that was actually fun

fun co op

fun multiplayer

Slyprince

scince everyone now suffers from 'lets me like halo' then hell yes! Halo:CE is still amazing to this day, i first played it on the PC about 2 years ago and still loved it! (missed out on alot last gen :()

It also could start a trend toward console games having a level editor and photo/video mode

ninja gaiden has one and now gears of war does...its only the beginning

sandbox environments like the second level of halo1

vehicles

balanced weapons

great artwork

Console FPS still suckPainballz

As a former hardcore FPS PC player and owner of a 360 only two months old, FPS on consoles are just as comperable if not more then the mouse and keyboard.

On topic...

-Rechargable Health

-One trigger gernade throwing

-Perfect console movement speed

-Perfect intigration of vehicles

-Carring only two guns at once.

Everything else is excecution wise like Storytelling, AI, art style, and multiplayer.

It didnt, its just a common misconception.EVOLV3

Lol a Killzone fanboy talking about innovation...it's quite funny.

it made rechargable health popular

you didnt have to switch to a grenade to use it

it had vehicle combat that was actually fun

fun co op

fun multiplayer

Slyprince

Whoa now.... three of those are subjective, and the other two aren't a good thing.

Rechargeable forcefields aren't your health, and you still have a health system in the first Halo. Vehicle combat? You mean where armoured vehicles redirect damage to the passengers and driver? Co-op was fun, but I had fonder memories in Timesplitters 1.

Halo = Meh in innovation.

Guns combined with Grenade launchers where on Perfect Dark if i remember right which still to this day has the best guns around on any FPS. Timesplitters was out before Halo if i remember right and had perfect dual-analog controls.

No halo was not innovative in any aspect of the word. Innovation on FPS scene died with Perfect Dark and Golden Eye on the N64 era. Hell the last true innovative FPS if you can count it as one is Metroid Prime series on the GameCube and Wii.

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]It didnt, its just a common misconception.thegoldenpoo

moo?

mooo :cry:

[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"]

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]It didnt, its just a common misconception.100Gamer

moo?

mooo :cry:

Halo = Meh in innovation.

Guns combined with Grenade launchers where on Perfect Dark if i remember right. Timesplitters was out before Halo if i remember right and had perfect dual-analog controls.

No halo was not innovative in any aspect of the word.

Dibdibdobdobo

You're way off.

Are you kidding? Halo was innovative. It showed us what a huge overrated game looks like, what it smells like, what it tastes like.

Jk.

[QUOTE="100Gamer"][QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"]

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]It didnt, its just a common misconception.smokeydabear076

moo?

mooo :cry:

roast beef anyone?

the whole, "you can only carry 2 guns at once" thingy thats o so popularVendettaRed07

perfect dark, goldeneye ???? :roll:

[QUOTE="Slyprince"]

it made rechargable health popular

you didnt have to switch to a grenade to use it

it had vehicle combat that was actually fun

fun co op

fun multiplayer

leejohnson7

Whoa now.... three of those are subjective, and the other two aren't a good thing.

Rechargeable forcefields aren't your health, and you still have a health system in the first Halo. Vehicle combat? You mean where armoured vehicles redirect damage to the passengers and driver? Co-op was fun, but I had fonder memories in Timesplitters 1.

I thought the tc meant the halo series in general

and you cant tell me handiling the turret while your friend drove wasnt fun

[QUOTE="xXHackettXx"]Halo perfected the dual analog FPS controls. Also was the first big system link game.VoodooGamer

Ok I can see that but I'm talking more from a gameplay perspective. When I hear "innovation" when talking about a game, I automatically think about what it did differently that affected how the game was played and moved the genre foreward.

The controller is how a game is played, it helped it a lot....... :/

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]the whole, "you can only carry 2 guns at once" thingy thats o so popularfishfake

perfect dark, goldeneye ???? :roll:

you can carry like 10 guns in those games. nice try :lol:

[QUOTE="Painballz"]Console FPS still suckinsanejedi

As a former hardcore FPS PC player and owner of a 360 only two months old, FPS on consoles are just as comperable if not more then the mouse and keyboard.

On topic...

-Rechargable Health

-One trigger gernade throwing

-Perfect console movement speed

-Perfect intigration of vehicles

-Carring only two guns at once.

Everything else is excecution wise like Storytelling, AI, art style, and multiplayer.

I agree with this guy. Reading a spreadsheet printout of new features will never really explain why this game had the impact it did. You had to have been an active gamer Pre-Halo and have "lived" during that time to really see it. Now alot of the stuff is common and everyday, but back then it wasn't.

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

Halo = Meh in innovation.

Guns combined with Grenade launchers where on Perfect Dark if i remember right. Timesplitters was out before Halo if i remember right and had perfect dual-analog controls.

No halo was not innovative in any aspect of the word.

Ilived

You're way off.

Please put up something worth debating instead of just saying "NO".

[QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

Halo = Meh in innovation.

Guns combined with Grenade launchers where on Perfect Dark if i remember right. Timesplitters was out before Halo if i remember right and had perfect dual-analog controls.

No halo was not innovative in any aspect of the word.

Dibdibdobdobo

You're way off.

Please put up something worth debating instead of just saying "NO".

NO! you are just wrong. nothing to debate. WRONG

Yeah I have always wondered this too. I mean the games are solid, but nothing really stands out.goodlay

the TC was referring to the first halo.

[QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

Halo = Meh in innovation.

Guns combined with Grenade launchers where on Perfect Dark if i remember right. Timesplitters was out before Halo if i remember right and had perfect dual-analog controls.

No halo was not innovative in any aspect of the word.

Dibdibdobdobo

You're way off.

Please put up something worth debating instead of just saying "NO".

Here is one...multiplayer. Nothing like it on consoles before(especially the co-op mode). Let me put it this way, Halo was innovative in a way of that it made a new standard for console fps. That standard was, put out a great all around experience with great multiplayer. In any case, I'm going to assume you are one of those people who hated Halo's popularity more than the actual game itself so you like to discredit it every chance you get.

The game made certain features more popular and appealing to a wider audience than games that introduced many of Halo's gameplay elemnts before. With such a popular fanbase, Halo helped spread many of it's gameplay elements to future console FPS games.

Was Halo great when it released? Yes. It even looked great compared to most, if not all, pc fps games at the time. My problem with the series is that it never changed. It kept the same dry (dry in today's standards) gameplay from the previous games. Of course that's in my opinion...and in many other oppinions... An example is many of friends, just a couple months after Halo 3's launch(which many of them waited in line for) they all just kind of...stopped playing. They moved onto other games and said it just got boring. Look back at Halo 2 and they played the heck out of that game for years up until Halo 3's release.

Halo: CE was great. The next 2 in the series...were ok. (Oppinion)

it made rechargable health popular

you didnt have to switch to a grenade to use it

it had vehicle combat that was actually fun

fun co op

fun multiplayer

Slyprince

2 of the lamest "noob" features every introduced to FPS. now grenades are more spammable than ever, and theres alot less risk of death with recharging health.

bloody halo.

camera direction driving is the only thing I can think of. Everything else has been done before, people who just started gaming with the x-box or never owned a PC that could play games just don't know any better.FragTycoon

I've never owned a PC for gaming but i started playing FPS way back on the N64 and PS1. Nothing has changed since then.

camera direction driving is the only thing I can think of. Everything else has been done before, people who just started gaming with the x-box or never owned a PC that could play games just don't know any better.FragTycoon

What other fps pc game had more of a complete package than Halo? If it came out for the pc only, everyone here would be raving how innovative it was.

[QUOTE="fishfake"]

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]the whole, "you can only carry 2 guns at once" thingy thats o so popular100Gamer

perfect dark, goldeneye ???? :roll:

you can carry like 10 guns in those games. nice try :lol:

hehe i thought hold 2 weapons at the same time :oops:

but its cooler too have a lot of weapons.:P

[QUOTE="Slyprince"]

it made rechargable health popular

you didnt have to switch to a grenade to use it

it had vehicle combat that was actually fun

fun co op

fun multiplayer

Meu2k7

2 of the lamest "noob" features every introduced to FPS. now grenades are more spammable than ever, and theres alot less risk of death with recharging health.

bloody halo.

i always thought rechargable sheild's made games abit more complex.

Don't ask silly questions.It just did, ok?ukillwegrill

Yeah i agree man,this kid has a good point,i mean...it just did

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Slyprince"]

it made rechargable health popular

you didnt have to switch to a grenade to use it

it had vehicle combat that was actually fun

fun co op

fun multiplayer

lawlessx

2 of the lamest "noob" features every introduced to FPS. now grenades are more spammable than ever, and theres alot less risk of death with recharging health.

bloody halo.

i always thought rechargable sheild's made games abit more complex.

How? no team based FPS uses it, except for medics at a very slow rate, its a terrible feature.