How do you feel about Demon's Souls players buying Dark Souls for the 360?

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#51 Cow4ever
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[QUOTE="Cow4ever"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] i'm not sure if you broke the quote on purpose or not... but he said he's CONSIDERING selling it. as in he hasn't made up his mind yet. that means he still might keep it, but if he decides not to, at least he didn't have to sell dark souls. and dark souls is as much about cooperation in a hostile environment as it is about hunting down other people to get yourself revived.Maroxad

oh... still who is stupid enough to sell his PS3 but keeping the 360?? And yeah it is but not about friends. It's not about chatting and cursing and talking. It's focus and atmosphere. not just simple TDM

So people with different tastes are now stupid? They might you know keep the 360 because they prefer the 360 exclusives and multiplats, as well as older games on the console that might be replayed. Most people prefer to play with their friends, many of my friends main complaint about Demons Souls was the terrible online component.

Yes. What exclusives?? What you mean terrible??
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#52 Zero_epyon
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[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

But honesty if anyone actually has a choice between getting it on PS3 or 360, choosing to get it on 360 would be ridiculous.

Cow4ever

What if...

  1. A person wants to play with his friends, wmost of which, are getting the 360 version.
  2. A person simply put hates the PS3 controls?
  3. A person really wants to have the game on Xbox live? Either for the superior services on live and/or if he prefers achievements over trophies.
  4. A person simply put gets all his multiplats on the 360.
  5. A person is considering selling his PS3, while still planning on keeping his 360.

I am sure there are even more reasons. People should get the game on whatever system they please. Getting it on the 360 does actually have its perks.

That's some of the stupidest reasons I've ever heard

How are those reasons stupid? I think you're trying too hard.
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#53 Some-Mist
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I can care less, tho I am scratching my head a bit. mainly because the PS3 version was developed by from software, and the 360 version is a port done by namco bandai. I'm sure it would be fine. in the end I'm expecting more players online in the PS3 version due to the dedicated demon's souls community that already exists on the platform, which could be both a good and bad thing...
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#54 fadersdream
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[QUOTE="casharmy"]

But honesty if anyone actually has a choice between getting it on PS3 or 360, choosing to get it on 360 would be ridiculous.

Maroxad

What if...

  1. A person wants to play with his friends, wmost of which, are getting the 360 version.
  2. A person simply put hates the PS3 controls?
  3. A person really wants to have the game on Xbox live? Either for the superior services on live and/or if he prefers achievements over trophies.
  4. A person simply put gets all his multiplats on the 360.
  5. A person is considering selling his PS3, while still planning on keeping his 360.

I am sure there are even more reasons. People should get the game on whatever system they please. Getting it on the 360 does actually have its perks.

4. That is actually a reason for me, I get all my multiplats on 360.
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#56 donalbane
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I think it's great that more people get to play this developer's unique game.
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#57 Genesis-X
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I'm kinda sad this is even an issue.
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#58 Maroxad
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@ Maroxad

I can think of 1 valid reson to own Dark Souls on xbox360 ever if you have a PS3, Buying it as a EXTRA copy in additon to the PS3 copyto own in support of the company (From Software) who made this game to expand the franchise,boost the sales and help the game be an over-all sucess.

Other than this, if you actuallyown both platforms, there are no good reasons to buy it for xbox360 unless you are just a MS fanboy.

casharmy

I have mentioned my reasons before, and clearly explained them.

Those reasons may not apply to you (or me for that matter) but they apply to other people.

  1. Playing games can be fun, playing them with friends can make them twice as fun. Friends who might not even have the PS3
  2. The 360 shaped PS3 controllers are not as well known, Even then, would you buy a new controller for just one game?
  3. With the exception of the monthly fee, I am pretty sure it is generally agreed that XBL>PSN
  4. Some people like just having all their games in "one place". I am not one of them, but I know people who are. A big reason for this is the fact that some people want all their games to be bound to the same service.
  5. Considering selling the PS3 means the PS3 is still an option. Heck a person considering selling a platform might not even sell the platform in the end, and they might still have the platform for another 3 months or so, plenty of time to play the game.

Edit: I am tired of going around in circles, but I would argue not seeing and understanding other people's opinoins is by far more fanboyish than getting the inferior version of a game.

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#59 Swift_Boss_A
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A step backwards but whatever makes them happy :P I feel Demon's Souls was made with free online in mind, the fact you can get the game and be able to see ghosts of other users and play/fight against them etc. It was definitely a PS3 game through and through, but am glad there is a spiritual successor for all to play, just better on PS3 ;)

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#61 fadersdream
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[QUOTE="fadersdream"]

My point is: I jumped ship. It was a tough decision since I love DS as much as I do. I'm still on the fence about it, but I have had friends get annoyed with me over it.

DS was really the best example of the PS3, deep beautiful and very distinctly Japanese. Many people complain that putting it on the American console is a bad fit, or awkward somehow. While others complain that there is a disloyalty either expressed by the game company or by the fans for owning both systems but getting the other platform.

madsnakehhh

No offense, but anyone who thinks that, is just plain stupid.

stupid, yeah... that's the word that just came to mind. thanks for your two cents, it wasn't actually useful in anyway, but thanks for adding to the discussion.
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#62 fadersdream
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[QUOTE="fadersdream"]

My point is: I jumped ship. It was a tough decision since I love DS as much as I do. I'm still on the fence about it, but I have had friends get annoyed with me over it.

DS was really the best example of the PS3, deep beautiful and very distinctly Japanese. Many people complain that putting it on the American console is a bad fit, or awkward somehow. While others complain that there is a disloyalty either expressed by the game company or by the fans for owning both systems but getting the other platform.

madsnakehhh

No offense, but anyone who thinks that, is just plain stupid.

stupid, yeah... that's the word that just came to mind. thanks for your two cents, it wasn't actually useful in anyway, but thanks for adding to the discussion.
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#66 o0HAPPY0o
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It was the only game on the PS3 that I wished was on the 360 for XBL alone.

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#67 John_Read
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[QUOTE="fadersdream"]

So far the Pre-Order sales for PS3 are about double that for the 360.

For those who have played it does it bother you? Does it make sense or have you even thought about it?

Cow4ever
I think Dark Souls is a game that is supposed to be played on PS3. It's just a PS3 game really, just like mass effect 2 (lol) should've stayed 360 exclusive

ME 2 was never exclusive
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#68 edo-tensei
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Anyone who thinks having a good game available to more people is bad, is not gaming for the right reasons.foxhound_fox
Anyone who thinks having a good game available to more people is bad, is not gaming for the right reasons.foxhound_fox
If you're in this page with that mentallity of yours, you're also not here for the right reasons.
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#69 casharmy
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[QUOTE="casharmy"]

@ Maroxad

I can think of 1 valid reson to own Dark Souls on xbox360 ever if you have a PS3, Buying it as a EXTRA copy in additon to the PS3 copyto own in support of the company (From Software) who made this game to expand the franchise,boost the sales and help the game be an over-all sucess.

Other than this, if you actuallyown both platforms, there are no good reasons to buy it for xbox360 unless you are just a MS fanboy.

Maroxad

I have mentioned my reasons before, and clearly explained them.

Those reasons may not apply to you (or me for that matter) but they apply to other people.

  1. Playing games can be fun, playing them with friends can make them twice as fun. Friends who might not even have the PS3
  2. The 360 shaped PS3 controllers are not as well known, Even then, would you buy a new controller for just one game?
  3. With the exception of the monthly fee, I am pretty sure it is generally agreed that XBL>PSN
  4. Some people like just having all their games in "one place". I am not one of them, but I know people who are. A big reason for this is the fact that some people want all their games to be bound to the same service.
  5. Considering selling the PS3 means the PS3 is still an option. Heck a person considering selling a platform might not even sell the platform in the end, and they might still have the platform for another 3 months or so, plenty of time to play the game.

Edit: I am tired of going around in circles, but I would argue not seeing and understanding other people's opinoins is by far more fanboyish than getting the inferior version of a game.

sounds like a bunch of fanboy reasons really.

not to be harsh but talking about "it is generally agreed that XBL>PSN" related to Dark Souls is BS because the online for both games will be the same.

did you even do any research?

The online integration for the game WAS A DEVELOPERS CHOICE!!!! Please stop with the remarks about Demon's Souls online being horrible because of PSN lol it seems like you know nothing about the game. Please go look at some of the developers interviews, the developers didn't want any set-up encounters or Voice BS talking from DESIGN choice, It had nothing to do with PSN at all. It is the same for Dark Souls.

Please go do some reasearch and come back when you are informed about the game is doing...

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#70 madsnakehhh
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="fadersdream"]

My point is: I jumped ship. It was a tough decision since I love DS as much as I do. I'm still on the fence about it, but I have had friends get annoyed with me over it.

DS was really the best example of the PS3, deep beautiful and very distinctly Japanese. Many people complain that putting it on the American console is a bad fit, or awkward somehow. While others complain that there is a disloyalty either expressed by the game company or by the fans for owning both systems but getting the other platform.

fadersdream

No offense, but anyone who thinks that, is just plain stupid.

stupid, yeah... that's the word that just came to mind. thanks for your two cents, it wasn't actually useful in anyway, but thanks for adding to the discussion.

If you feel the same then, why did you make a thread about it?

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#71 Im_on_a_boat
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Why are so many people in this thread assuming all these 360 users wont have live? Everyone I know who has a 360 and internet connection has live..
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#72 funsohng
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If anything, I'm grateful that more people gets to experience this awesome game.
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#73 MrSelf-Destruct
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The idea that a game or franchise should be tied to a specific console because it "just feels right" is pretty stupid. As long as it's coded to play a system then that's the system it plays on. Who says the game's 360 community won't be robust? The PS3 didn't automatically come with a Demon's Souls community. It built up after everyone realized how awesome the game was. There's no reason the 360 can't build a Dark Souls community. Hell, it's not like you need more than a few hundred people online at a time anyway. This isn't MAG, y'know.
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#74 lawlessx
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This thread is a prime example of what's wrong with being too devoted to one console..logic goes right down the toilet. If i were to pick up dark souls it will be on the 360 because most of my friends own a 360. This whole talk about the game beng "meant to be played on X console" is just pure fanboysim.

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#75 MrSelf-Destruct
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Why are so many people in this thread assuming all these 360 users wont have live? Everyone I know who has a 360 and internet connection has live..Im_on_a_boat
They're trying to find a way to make this silly talk make sense? I don't know anyone with a 360 without an online connection. It's the Netflix, Halo, Gears machine, amirite? You gotta have that Gold account.
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#76 Chris_Williams
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why should anyone care?

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#77 Tikeio
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Why on bloody earth would anybody give a rats ass or be "bothered" by which console some random people on the internet buy a game for? Let alone a game I dont even care about. :? I hated demon souls so much I returned it the next day after I bought it.StrongDeadlift

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#78 abuabed
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I'm bothered to the max! :evil: [spoiler] Who the hell cares? [/spoiler]
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#79 casharmy
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It was the only game on the PS3 that I wished was on the 360 for XBL alone.

o0HAPPY0o

...and what would have been diffrent other than having to pay or missing out on the bulk of the experiencemay I ask?

lemmings the hyperlobe about XBL can stop, No voice talk and or team matchups was a developer choice***********************END

"GS: Do you have more choice in whose game you play if you join in cooperative mode than in Demon's Souls? Is voice chat possible if you team up with a friend?

HM: In terms of ways to cooperate, the number of variations has increased from Demon's Souls. But as a basis, we want to make sure that players use the network to share their experiences. There's no concept of friends, or there's no concept of voice chat. Each player will play their role in the world and there will be a way to contact each other within the game. But the obvious concept of it is not to hold hands with somebody, obviously."

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/606312-/58082166

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#80 lawlessx
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why should anyone care?

Chris_Williams
you know what's funny? if these guys REALLY cared that much about this series they would buy the 360 version and support the devs move for going muitplatform :wink:
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#81 caughtjoo
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It is the consumers choice, doesn't bother me.
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#82 Maroxad
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This thread is a prime example of what's wrong with being too devoted to what console..logic goes right down the toilet. If i were to pick up dark souls it will be on the 360 because most of my friends own a 360. This whole talk about the game beng "meant to be played on X console" is just pure fanboysim.

lawlessx

Couldnt have said it better myself.

Who cares what system people get the game on? Judging people based on what version (assuming it isnt pokemon ofc) they got is the most redicilous thing I could ever think of.

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#83 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

This thread is a prime example of what's wrong with being too devoted to what console..logic goes right down the toilet. If i were to pick up dark souls it will be on the 360 because most of my friends own a 360. This whole talk about the game beng "meant to be played on X console" is just pure fanboysim.

Maroxad

Couldnt have said it better myself.

Who cares what system people get the game on? Judging people based on what version (assuming it isnt pokemon ofc) they got is the most redicilous thing I could ever think of.

remember when FF13 was announced on the 360? Even before gameplay was shown ps3 fanboys quickly started saying they are getting it on the ps3 because that's where it's meant to be played. The lulz really started coming out when they brought controllers into the debate lol
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#84 casharmy
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[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

This thread is a prime example of what's wrong with being too devoted to what console..logic goes right down the toilet. If i were to pick up dark souls it will be on the 360 because most of my friends own a 360. This whole talk about the game beng "meant to be played on X console" is just pure fanboysim.

lawlessx

Couldnt have said it better myself.

Who cares what system people get the game on? Judging people based on what version (assuming it isnt pokemon ofc) they got is the most redicilous thing I could ever think of.

remember when FF13 was announced on the 360? Even before gameplay was shown ps3 fanboys quickly started saying they are getting it on the ps3 because that's where it's meant to be played. The lulz really started coming out when they brought controllers into the debate lol

:? but FF13 was horrible no matter what platform you played it on.

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#85 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="Maroxad"]

Couldnt have said it better myself.

Who cares what system people get the game on? Judging people based on what version (assuming it isnt pokemon ofc) they got is the most redicilous thing I could ever think of.

casharmy

remember when FF13 was announced on the 360? Even before gameplay was shown ps3 fanboys quickly started saying they are getting it on the ps3 because that's where it's meant to be played. The lulz really started coming out when they brought controllers into the debate lol

:? but FF13 was horrible no matter what platform you played it on.

impressive..the entire point of my post flew completely over your head.
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um it could be possible that they dont have PS3
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#87 casharmy
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[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"] remember when FF13 was announced on the 360? Even before gameplay was shown ps3 fanboys quickly started saying they are getting it on the ps3 because that's where it's meant to be played. The lulz really started coming out when they brought controllers into the debate lollawlessx

:? but FF13 was horrible no matter what platform you played it on.

impressive..the entire point of my post flew completely over your head.

No

I totally recognized you using one of the few examples of PS3 fans claiming a game to be superior over the millionz of example of 360 fanboys doing it since you are pro-xbox360and chose to have rose tented glasses and want to paint the PS3 fanbase into some kind of category that 360 fanboys do not also fall; even when the more suitable example would be that of a lemming.

Did I do it right?

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#88 casharmy
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um it could be possible that they dont have PS3 Pray_to_me

acceptable reason

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#89 6matt6
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="casharmy"]

:? but FF13 was horrible no matter what platform you played it on.

casharmy

impressive..the entire point of my post flew completely over your head.

No

I totally recognized you using one of the few examples of PS3 fans claiming a game to be superior over the millionz of example of 360 fanboys doing it since you are pro-xbox360and chose to have rose tented glasses and want to paint the PS3 fanbase into some kind of category that 360 fanboys do not also fall; even when the more suitable example would be that of a lemming.

Did I do it right?

You used the term rose tinted glasses wrong. You're also deflecting his point rather than addressing it. 'AHA Those people over-there do the exac same thing you accuse me of. Therefore it is ok for me to do it and you sir are biased for not specifically mentioning those guys'
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#90 dommeus
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It bothers me so deeply.

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#91 casharmy
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[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"] impressive..the entire point of my post flew completely over your head. 6matt6

No

I totally recognized you using one of the few examples of PS3 fans claiming a game to be superior over the millionz of example of 360 fanboys doing it since you are pro-xbox360and chose to have rose tented glasses and want to paint the PS3 fanbase into some kind of category that 360 fanboys do not also fall; even when the more suitable example would be that of a lemming.

Did I do it right?

You used the term rose tinted glasses wrong. You're also deflecting his point rather than addressing it. 'AHA Those people over-there do the exac same thing you accuse me of. Therefore it is ok for me to do it and you sir are biased for not specifically mentioning those guys'

Actually I didn't use rose tented glesses wrong.

He has never had any problems with xbox360 fanboys doing this and I have seen him in enough threads to know he will go along with them. even more obvious because he doesn't own a PS3 (self admitted) and he wants to point to one of the few examples of PS3 fans doing this to try to make some kind of point, I don't think so.

Honestly, I question you motive for even trying to defend what he said because I never said it was ok for any side to do it.

In the case of Dark Souls this is the first game that "I" have ever said will be superior on any platform ever, I usually don't care enough for multiplats to even be bothered by a pixle diffrence. In the case of Dark Souls however the diffrence I'm talking about has nothing to do with something as petty as the graphics.

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#92 6matt6
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Dark Souls isn't even out and you're basing this on a prediction. You have nothing solid to go on. Also rose tinted glasses is a term you use when someone is looking at something nostalgically and not objectively. Therefore you're using it out of context.
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#93 Wanderer5
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This thread is so sad. Who cares if people gets the 360 version over the PS3 version? That doesn't mean they're stupid or a 360 fanboy. It can just be their choice of system and rather play multiplat games on it.

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#94 casharmy
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Dark Souls isn't even out and you're basing this on a prediction. You have nothing solid to go on. Also rose tinted glasses is a term you use when someone is looking at something nostalgically and not objectively. Therefore you're using it out of context. 6matt6

:| I'm not basing anying on a prdiction.

Wow, I have nothing solid to go on? Please stop. The things I have said about the game in this thread are 100% fact, and nothing at this point will change.

What are you baising your "prediction" and "nothing solid to go on" banter on? lol, I know you don't have anything because I wan't making a prediction of anything, and the develpers of the **** game already established how they wanted to present the game.

1. Is xbox live not a pay to play service? Yes or no? Fact or prediction? Next...

2. Is a link to a developer of a game making comments about a game he is creating solid evidence of that game? Yes or no? Fact or prediction?Next...

looks like you are the one who is basing things on "prediction" and "have nothing solid to go on" but maybe just wanted to defend another xbox360 fan, it didn't help much.

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#95 Lto_thaG
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Never played DS,but this doesn't interest me.

And what normal person would be bothered?

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#96 Xaero_Gravity
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I was originally going to switch my pre order to the PS3 version after hearing about no Party Chat, but no stores near me are still taking pre orders tht automatically get upgraded to the Collector's Edition. So it's the 360 version for me.
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#97 mems_1224
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oh damn, i forgot this was coming to 360. i am now slightly interested in it
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#98 trollop_scat
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It annoys me that people who have both systems may choose to buy DS for 360 because it'll lessen the player pool for it on PS3, I admit it. Dark Souls shouldnt have gone multi-plat, Lemms will hate it because there aren't any guns in it and its not played from a first person perspective...

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#100 jjccjj92
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@ Maroxad

I can think of 1 valid reson to own Dark Souls on xbox360 ever if you have a PS3

Buying it as a EXTRA copy in additon to the PS3 copy to own in support of the company (From Software) who made this game to expand the franchise, boost the sales and help the game be an over-all sucess.

Other than this, if you actually own both platforms, there are no good reasons to buy it for xbox360 unless you are just a MS fanboy.

casharmy

Classic case of someone calling others fanboys while being a complete fanboy himself.

I played Demon's Souls but I have absolutely no reason to get Dark Souls on PS3 now that its is available on 360. I play all multiplats on my 360 because it's my preferred platform. The online is superior, the controller is superior (for me), and it's the platform that all of my friends are on. Let me turn this around on you and say there's absolutely no good reasons to get it on PS3. We've been given no indication that either version will be objectively superior. All it ultimately comes down to is which platform you prefer.