How Powerful is the Wii U Really?

Well I am wondering the same thing. Balfes made a thread about Wh0re in the Orient which is a game for next gen, but it does not mention what system it's for. I'm sorry Nintendo, your 1st party may rock but you need to get with the freaking times. The Wii was just a Gamecube with motion controls tacked on, and some devs are saying the Wii U is just a 360.

I don't know what to believe, I was hoping for a really powerful Wii U that can run a beautful cutting edge Zelda game in full HD and everything. I hate to say it, but I don't think that is going to happen.

Nintendo get your damn head out your ass and make better systems. Get with the times or go the way of the Dinosaur. I will still get a Wii U though probably, Wii U and PS4 for me.

Eurogamer using anonymous sources yet and no one questions it. :? IBM themselves confirmed Power 7, not Power PC. Why does the GPU even feature DX support at all if it won't use it, and the sh!t DX10 at that while being part of the 7 series.

Here's the shorter version about the specs.

Wii U will be powered by a CPU which features three IBM Power PC Cores, an AMD series 7 GPU and 1GB of memory available to games.The console'sCPU is apparently formed of three IBM Power PC cores of an undefined clock speed, though reports suggest this to be lower than the Xbox 360 and PS3. The developers also say that the machine has1GB of RAM available to games which is approximately twice that of the Xbox 360. The GPU isa custom AMD 7 series, supporting shader type 4 and DX10 type features, with embedded eDRAM.

"Wii U has a powerful GPU with more oomph than the rivals - and is more modern in architecture and shader support, which may come in handy later on."

"The CPU on the other hand is a different question. We are not limited by it but some other games might suffer from it. Still, because of the GPU, I expect most multi-platform games to look the best on Wii U, even if the difference might not be huge sometimes."

http://mynintendonews.com/2012/08/30/developers-finally-reveal-wii-u-specs/

Eh. It's a Nintendo console, I'm not even sure what anyone expected. It's going to be underpowered. The only reason you will buy it for will be e Nintendo exclusives. It's just how it is. charizard1605

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Eh. It's a Nintendo console, I'm not even sure what anyone expected. It's going to be underpowered. The only reason you will buy it for will be e Nintendo exclusives. It's just how it is. locopatho

Idk if it's sarcasm or kissing up to them hmmm

I agree with Nintendo that specs don't matter.

I couldn't care less about a console's specs if it wouldn't have any good, attractive games.

Also, it's more important how the given power is utilized than simply just what it has under the hood.

I mean, who cares if a system has a technical advantage if all it gets are bland ports from lesser (in technical terms) systems?

And also, people who are expecting "cutting-edge" tech in 300$ consoles in compact cases are delusional.

That said, I do expect Wii U games to not have graphical issues like jaggies, slowdown, screen tearing, blurry textures, pop up, ect.

This is unacceptable in this day and age.

- CPU: Equal or slightly less power than the Xenon and PS3 CELL.

- GPU: Much more powerful than the Xenos and the RSX. DX10-style supported features and more advanced shaders.

- RAM: Double the amount and faster RAM than PS3 and Xbox 360. Nintendo also has some RAM, beyond the 1GB, reserved to the Wii U OS and what not.

I'm waiting for Nintendo to surprise me with a $249 Price Tag. I'm expecting $299 but if Nintendo says 2...4...9, it will cause a good panic.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Eh. It's a Nintendo console, I'm not even sure what anyone expected. It's going to be underpowered. The only reason you will buy it for will be e Nintendo exclusives. It's just how it is. locopatho

"We understand that people like to dissect graphics and processing power, but the experience of playing will always be more important than raw numbers." Sheep and Nintendo always say this because they can't have both. Nintendo can't have both because they're griddy as **** and don't want to sell at a loss and Sheep? hmmmm they do everything what their master says, like a sheep.silversix_

[QUOTE="silversix_"] "We understand that people like to dissect graphics and processing power, but the experience of playing will always be more important than raw numbers." Sheep and Nintendo always say this because they can't have both. Nintendo can't have both because they're griddy as **** and don't want to sell at a loss and Sheep? hmmmm they do everything what their master says, like a sheep.nintendoboy16

He probably thinks Sony's next system will outmatch even top PCs.

But what he doesn't know is that there may not be another system from Sony...

(atleast not anytime soon)

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]Eh. It's a Nintendo console, I'm not even sure what anyone expected. It's going to be underpowered. The only reason you will buy it for will be e Nintendo exclusives. It's just how it is. nintendoboy16

The majority of developers have said it's comparable to the current generation consoles. KC_Hokie

The majority of developers have said nothing of the sort, especially as something as vague as that. We can compare PC to current consoles, but that doesn't mean consoles can stand up to it.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]The majority of developers have said it's comparable to the current generation consoles. ChubbyGuy40

The majority of developers have said nothing of the sort, especially as something as vague as that. We can compare PC to current consoles, but that doesn't mean consoles can stand up to it.

The majority that have spoken about the Wii U's hardware certainly have said it's comparable to current generation consoles in terms of power. And the word comparable means similar to or like. KC_Hokie

No, they have not. Anonymous comments don't count. Any named developers have been very silent on it because of NDAs. Yes that's what comparable means, but it doesn't define any parameters.

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

The PS3 also proved that you can't sell high end machines to the masses.

If you ignore the Wii, Sony still lost significant ground to MS.

So you're looking at a Wii / 360 future in the home console space.

I like this because it keeps development budgets down. I don't want production values to be the selling point of games.

SuperFlakeman

I'm talking about these kinds of things, this is not gaming:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6d_bq8aFA4

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]The majority that have spoken about the Wii U's hardware certainly have said it's comparable to current generation consoles in terms of power. And the word comparable means similar to or like. ChubbyGuy40

No, they have not. Anonymous comments don't count. Any named developers have been very silent on it because of NDAs. Yes that's what comparable means, but it doesn't define any parameters.

Posted June 9th: "But Nintendo's E3 showing effectively confirms that there is no unambiguous, generational leap in raw processing power here compared to the current HD consoles, and prior claims that the machine hosts twice the power of the Xbox 360 clearly ring hollow....Instead, the assets released by Nintendo in particular are notable in how "lo-fi" they are: its own screenshots confirm that some of its most simplistic titles are running at basic 720p resolution with no kind of anti-aliasing whatsoever, just like its demos were a year ago.....The combination of a tri-core IBM CPU with a more modern AMD graphics core is an intriguing choice in that it provides a route to backwards compatibility with existing Wii titles but also offers a certain level of commonality with the architecture of the Xbox 360."

Posted July 10th: Tekken producer Katsuhiro Harada states 'the system's graphical power on the same par as PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360, he noted that the Wii U's CPU is a bit slower than the competition."

Posted March 30th: The Nintendo Wii U is as powerful as the current generation consoles, according to Darksiders 2 developer Vigil

Posted June 21st: Crytek: Wii U 'as powerful as Xbox 360'

[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"] According to who?Heil68

According to what gaming has alwyas been about, until the 7th gen.

What type of games were you playing in the 90s?

Eww.

Just checking if your taste has always been consistent.

You were a niche gamer in the 90s. I mean yes, those particular games were popular, but I'm refering to the type of game. Japanese gamey games dominated back then in terms of popularity i.e. what the media were talking about, what everyone in school were talking about and so on.

Today teenagers/young adults/media are talking about GTA, Battlefield, Skyrim, CoD, Mass Effect, Uncharted (your taste). Back then it was all about Zelda, Pokemon, Final Fantasy, Sonic, Castlevania, Contra, Mega Man (my taste)

So I hope at least you can understand that I'm not getting Wii U because of fanboyism, it's because P-100, Rayman Legends, Pikmin 3, NSMB U, Zombi U appeal to me. The reason they appeal to me in the first place and why Legends is an exclusive is because the devs know that these games are for the so called Nintendo audience; they're Nintendo-like games. We don't want your bullsht dudebroified gaming, that's why those kinds of games have sold badly over the years on Wii/GC. The catch is there are relatively few of us, so Nintendo had to expand the gaming population to include casuals, because they refuse to turn their franchises into something you'd like.

[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

According to what gaming has alwyas been about, until the 7th gen.

What type of games were you playing in the 90s?

SuperFlakeman

Eww.

Just checking if your taste has always been consistent.

You were a niche gamer in the 90s. I mean yes, those particular games were popular, but I'm refering to the type of game. Japanese gamey games dominated back then in terms of popularity i.e. what the media were talking about, what everyone in school were talking about and so on.

Today teenagers/young adults/media are talking about GTA, Battlefield, Skyrim, CoD, Mass Effect, Uncharted (your taste). Back then it was all about Zelda, Pokemon, Final Fantasy, Sonic, Castlevania, Contra, Mega Man (my taste)

So I hope at least you can understand that I'm not getting Wii U because of fanboyism, it's because P-100, Rayman Legends, Pikmin 3, NSMB U, Zombi U appeal to me. The reason they appeal to me in the first place and why Legends is an exclusive is because the devs know that these games are for the so called Nintendo audience; they're Nintendo-like games. We don't want your bullsht dudebroified gaming, that's why those kinds of games have sold badly over the years on Wii/GC. The catch is there are relatively few of us, so Nintendo had to expand the gaming population to include casuals, because they refuse to turn their franchises into something you'd like.

[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

According to what gaming has alwyas been about, until the 7th gen.

What type of games were you playing in the 90s?

SuperFlakeman

Eww.

Just checking if your taste has always been consistent.

You were a niche gamer in the 90s. I mean yes, those particular games were popular, but I'm refering to the type of game. Japanese gamey games dominated back then in terms of popularity i.e. what the media were talking about, what everyone in school were talking about and so on.

Today teenagers/young adults/media are talking about GTA, Battlefield, Skyrim, CoD, Mass Effect, Uncharted (your taste). Back then it was all about Zelda, Pokemon, Final Fantasy, Sonic, Castlevania, Contra, Mega Man (my taste)

So I hope at least you can understand that I'm not getting Wii U because of fanboyism, it's because P-100, Rayman Legends, Pikmin 3, NSMB U, Zombi U appeal to me. The reason they appeal to me in the first place and why Legends is an exclusive is because the devs know that these games are for the so called Nintendo audience; they're Nintendo-like games. We don't want your bullsht dudebroified gaming, that's why those kinds of games have sold badly over the years on Wii/GC. The catch is there are relatively few of us, so Nintendo had to expand the gaming population to include casuals, because they refuse to turn their franchises into something you'd like.

Wait a sec now. So it has just 1GB RAM and a CPU that is weaker than current gen consoles. Hmm... :lol:! And it can only power two of the new gamepads simultaniously. Yeah I think it's safe to say it's weak. Sushiglutton

The problem with the Wii U is that Nintendo should have released it 7 years ago instead of the Wii. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if the Wii U was originally designed to be the Gamecube's successor, but then Nintendo mothballed it because the Wii was cheaper to make. When the Wii started dying out, Nintendo dusted off the Wii U prototype and decided to produce it as their "next-gen" console. It almost makes too much sense!Timstuff

Uh, the Wii was supposed to be called "Revolution" and have a unique controller, that's all that's true about what you're saying.

And Nintendo never gave high hopes that Wii would be a powerhouse or comparable to the 360 and PS3 in tech terms.

Of course that doesn't justify them repacking GC tech but making something like the Wii U seven years ago would mean it would cost 599$ or more.

But hey, your post just makes too much sense...

First of all it's not exact science :P

Zombi U is the only game in the list I'm not sold on yet so you may have a point.

I haven't seen much media of Zombi U but from what I've seen it's not narrative heavy, it's not serious in tone, the game seems kid-friendly, it's light-hearted.

I mean lol, Reggie zombi-fied, uaaaah!!! that stuff is "kiddy"

The game isn't backed up with a hollywood voice acting cast, its story isn't something a "mature adult" would enjoy, the game isn't about the atmosphere. You feel scared in the "ahhh!! that was exciting!" way, not "I can't sleep tonight"... you get the idea.

It's kiddy/nerdy/happy. Not serious/mature/adult.

Posted today, August 30th :"It's comparable to the current generation and a bit more powerful than that." That 'bit' more power is the increase in Ram not GPU or CPU. Source clearly isn't annoymous.

Posted June 9th: "But Nintendo's E3 showing effectively confirms that there is no unambiguous, generational leap in raw processing power here compared to the current HD consoles, and prior claims that the machine hosts twice the power of the Xbox 360 clearly ring hollow....Instead, the assets released by Nintendo in particular are notable in how "lo-fi" they are: its own screenshots confirm that some of its most simplistic titles are running at basic 720p resolution with no kind of anti-aliasing whatsoever, just like its demos were a year ago.....The combination of a tri-core IBM CPU with a more modern AMD graphics core is an intriguing choice in that it provides a route to backwards compatibility with existing Wii titles but also offers a certain level of commonality with the architecture of the Xbox 360."

Posted July 10th: Tekken producer Katsuhiro Harada states 'the system's graphical power on the same par as PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360, he noted that the Wii U's CPU is a bit slower than the competition."

Posted March 30th: The Nintendo Wii U is as powerful as the current generation consoles, according to Darksiders 2 developer Vigil

Posted June 21st: Crytek: Wii U 'as powerful as Xbox 360'

KC_Hokie

You said majority, not major or some. Learn2word. Now to pick those apart. If you want to argue about it, this Nash guy is a design director, not a programmer. The second link is based off early preview demos and unfinished kits showing off casual launch titles. They also contradict themselves with the current article saying Arkham City looks worse on Wii-U than 360/PS3, which the June 9th article proves quite the opposite. June 10th article also means nothing. He was referring to the clock speed, which in no way does not determine performance. IGN managed to twist the source quite well to make it sound like a bash. The Darksiders 2 director has nothing to do with the Wii-U and programming, and they really didn't start working on it until the game shipped. The last article says at the bare minimum it's the 360 level. So what is the average or maximum?

Those specs don't detail a damn thing. The CPU Eurogamer (who does twist words to form shock and bullsh!t articles like this one) listed is not the same one IBM said the Wii-U will use. The GPU was not detailed, and goes directly against what a 7xxx card from AMD is. It doesn't make the least bit of sense. What's to expect when it's Eurogamer and their (anonymous) sources though? This article is nothing more than a straight-up bash attempt at Nintendo.

Why is it so hard for you to read the actual content instead of headlines? Why don't you post the articles where devs praise the Wii-U's power? Oh right, you purposefully ignore those.

First of all it's not exact science :P

Zombi U is the only game in the list I'm not sold on yet so you may have a point.

I haven't seen much media of Zombi U but from what I've seen it's not narrative heavy, it's not serious in tone, the game seems kid-friendly, it's light-hearted.

I mean lol, Reggie zombi-fied, uaaaah!!! that stuff is "kiddy"

The game isn't backed up with a hollywood voice acting cast, its story isn't something a "mature adult" would enjoy, the game isn't about the atmosphere. You feel scared in the "ahhh!! that was exciting!" way, not "I can't sleep tonight"... you get the idea.

It's kiddy/nerdy/happy. Not serious/mature/adult.

SuperFlakeman

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]Wait a sec now. So it has just 1GB RAM and a CPU that is weaker than current gen consoles. Hmm... :lol:! And it can only power two of the new gamepads simultaniously. Yeah I think it's safe to say it's weak. parkurtommo

This is speculation, not fact.

Pretty much the only ones who care about how powerful the Wii-U is, is people who aren't going to get the console anyway. "lol, its graphics aren't gonna be near the console I'm getting, lol!" We, Nintendo fans, care mostly about the games and how fun they are. And the Wii U is going to have better looking games than 360 and PS3. Sounds fantastic to me. I'd imagine a Metroid game with a little better than PS3 and 360 graphics would look about 1000 times better than Crysis 2 on PC..

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

Posted today, August 30th :"It's comparable to the current generation and a bit more powerful than that." That 'bit' more power is the increase in Ram not GPU or CPU. Source clearly isn't annoymous.

Posted June 9th: "But Nintendo's E3 showing effectively confirms that there is no unambiguous, generational leap in raw processing power here compared to the current HD consoles, and prior claims that the machine hosts twice the power of the Xbox 360 clearly ring hollow....Instead, the assets released by Nintendo in particular are notable in how "lo-fi" they are: its own screenshots confirm that some of its most simplistic titles are running at basic 720p resolution with no kind of anti-aliasing whatsoever, just like its demos were a year ago.....The combination of a tri-core IBM CPU with a more modern AMD graphics core is an intriguing choice in that it provides a route to backwards compatibility with existing Wii titles but also offers a certain level of commonality with the architecture of the Xbox 360."

Posted July 10th: Tekken producer Katsuhiro Harada states 'the system's graphical power on the same par as PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360, he noted that the Wii U's CPU is a bit slower than the competition."

Posted March 30th: The Nintendo Wii U is as powerful as the current generation consoles, according to Darksiders 2 developer Vigil

Posted June 21st: Crytek: Wii U 'as powerful as Xbox 360'

ChubbyGuy40

You said majority, not major or some. Learn2word. Now to pick those apart. If you want to argue about it, this Nash guy is a design director, not a programmer. The second link is based off early preview demos and unfinished kits showing off casual launch titles. They also contradict themselves with the current article saying Arkham City looks worse on Wii-U than 360/PS3, which the June 9th article proves quite the opposite. June 10th article also means nothing. He was referring to the clock speed, which in no way does not determine performance. IGN managed to twist the source quite well to make it sound like a bash. The Darksiders 2 director has nothing to do with the Wii-U and programming, and they really didn't start working on it until the game shipped. The last article says at the bare minimum it's the 360 level. So what is the average or maximum?

Those specs don't detail a damn thing. The CPU Eurogamer (who does twist words to form shock and bullsh!t articles like this one) listed is not the same one IBM said the Wii-U will use. The GPU was not detailed, and goes directly against what a 7xxx card from AMD is. It doesn't make the least bit of sense. What's to expect when it's Eurogamer and their (anonymous) sources though? This article is nothing more than a straight-up bash attempt at Nintendo.

Why is it so hard for you to read the actual content instead of headlines? Why don't you post the articles where devs praise the Wii-U's power? Oh right, you purposefully ignore those.

Or maybe the Wii U is basically going to be an Xbox 360 with more Ram.

I don't really care either way because I've decided not to buy one. I was just commenting from what I've read from credible sources on numerous occasions from publishers and developers across the globe.

Pretty much the only ones who care about how powerful the Wii-U is, is people who aren't going to get the console anyway. "lol, its graphics aren't gonna be near the console I'm getting, lol!" We, Nintendo fans, care mostly about the games and how fun they are. And the Wii U is going to have better looking games than 360 and PS3. Sounds fantastic to me. I'd imagine a Metroid game with a little better than PS3 and 360 graphics would look about 1000 times better than Crysis 2 on PC..

Litchie

[QUOTE="Litchie"]

Pretty much the only ones who care about how powerful the Wii-U is, is people who aren't going to get the console anyway. "lol, its graphics aren't gonna be near the console I'm getting, lol!" We, Nintendo fans, care mostly about the games and how fun they are. And the Wii U is going to have better looking games than 360 and PS3. Sounds fantastic to me. I'd imagine a Metroid game with a little better than PS3 and 360 graphics would look about 1000 times better than Crysis 2 on PC..

locopatho

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Litchie"]

Pretty much the only ones who care about how powerful the Wii-U is, is people who aren't going to get the console anyway. "lol, its graphics aren't gonna be near the console I'm getting, lol!" We, Nintendo fans, care mostly about the games and how fun they are. And the Wii U is going to have better looking games than 360 and PS3. Sounds fantastic to me. I'd imagine a Metroid game with a little better than PS3 and 360 graphics would look about 1000 times better than Crysis 2 on PC..

clone01

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]Wait a sec now. So it has just 1GB RAM and a CPU that is weaker than current gen consoles. Hmm... :lol:! And it can only power two of the new gamepads simultaniously. Yeah I think it's safe to say it's weak. ChubbyGuy40

This is speculation, not fact.

[QUOTE="Litchie"]

Pretty much the only ones who care about how powerful the Wii-U is, is people who aren't going to get the console anyway. "lol, its graphics aren't gonna be near the console I'm getting, lol!" We, Nintendo fans, care mostly about the games and how fun they are. And the Wii U is going to have better looking games than 360 and PS3. Sounds fantastic to me. I'd imagine a Metroid game with a little better than PS3 and 360 graphics would look about 1000 times better than Crysis 2 on PC..

locopatho

I suppose it's either a global conspiracy against the Wii U among developers and publishers.

Or maybe the Wii U is basically going to be an Xbox 360 with more Ram.

I don't really care either way because I've decided not to buy one. I was just commenting from what I've read from credible sources on numerous occasions from publishers and developers across the globe.

KC_Hokie

Global conspiracy? No, just idiot journalists who are looking for hits and know people will eat this up.

Maybe it will, but until someone opens it up and details it to us then all of this is nothing more than lies and speculation.

Word it how you will, but in the end you let someone else convince you not to buy a product that's yet to be released because they decided to twist the truth into slander, and you believed it.

[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

First of all it's not exact science :P

Zombi U is the only game in the list I'm not sold on yet so you may have a point.

I haven't seen much media of Zombi U but from what I've seen it's not narrative heavy, it's not serious in tone, the game seems kid-friendly, it's light-hearted.

I mean lol, Reggie zombi-fied, uaaaah!!! that stuff is "kiddy"

The game isn't backed up with a hollywood voice acting cast, its story isn't something a "mature adult" would enjoy, the game isn't about the atmosphere. You feel scared in the "ahhh!! that was exciting!" way, not "I can't sleep tonight"... you get the idea.

It's kiddy/nerdy/happy. Not serious/mature/adult.

locopatho

I am aware of the fact that I'm generalizing, but without some stereotyping we wouldn't be able to come far in a discussion.

GH and CoD (MP) are arcady type of games so those are more my speed, you missunderstand the difference. The problem is CoD (SP) is now riddled with michael bay moments and the level design has been dumbed down so that the lowest common denominator can enjoy it. CoD4: MW is an amazing game, its SP is fantastic. Halo CE is one of my fav games ever and Bayonetta is a typical Japanese gamey game, which I like, it reminds me of PS2 action games.

RE6 would be a recent example. RE4 is an outstanding game. RE6 looks like horsecrap. If you figure that one out, you've got it.

[QUOTE="Litchie"]

Pretty much the only ones who care about how powerful the Wii-U is, is people who aren't going to get the console anyway. "lol, its graphics aren't gonna be near the console I'm getting, lol!" We, Nintendo fans, care mostly about the games and how fun they are. And the Wii U is going to have better looking games than 360 and PS3. Sounds fantastic to me. I'd imagine a Metroid game with a little better than PS3 and 360 graphics would look about 1000 times better than Crysis 2 on PC..

locopatho

Now we're talking.

All I want to see on Wii U are HD and online enabled versions of F-Zero, Star Fox (not like Assault), Mario 128 (not Galaxy 3), spiritual successor to Majora, Banjo-Kazooie 3 (if Ninty manages to obtain the license), DK64 2 (not another DKC), Metroid 5, Wave Race, ect.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

I suppose it's either a global conspiracy against the Wii U among developers and publishers.

Or maybe the Wii U is basically going to be an Xbox 360 with more Ram.

I don't really care either way because I've decided not to buy one. I was just commenting from what I've read from credible sources on numerous occasions from publishers and developers across the globe.

ChubbyGuy40

Global conspiracy? No, just idiot journalists who are looking for hits and know people will eat this up.

Maybe it will, but until someone opens it up and details it to us then all of this is nothing more than lies and speculation.

Word it how you will, but in the end you let someone else convince you not to buy a product that's yet to be released because they decided to twist the truth into slander, and you believed it.

One of the few reasons I was interested in the Wii U was the possible for strategy games and mmos. The Smartglass announcement just eliminated that advantage the Wii U possible had.

[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

According to what gaming has alwyas been about, until the 7th gen.

What type of games were you playing in the 90s?

GamingGod999

Eww.

Just checking if your taste has always been consistent.

You were a niche gamer in the 90s. I mean yes, those particular games were popular, but I'm refering to the type of game. Japanese gamey games dominated back then in terms of popularity i.e. what the media were talking about, what everyone in school were talking about and so on.

Today teenagers/young adults/media are talking about GTA, Battlefield, Skyrim, CoD, Mass Effect, Uncharted (your taste). Back then it was all about Zelda, Pokemon, Final Fantasy, Sonic, Castlevania, Contra, Mega Man (my taste)

So I hope at least you can understand that I'm not getting Wii U because of fanboyism, it's because P-100, Rayman Legends, Pikmin 3, NSMB U, Zombi U appeal to me. The reason they appeal to me in the first place and why Legends is an exclusive is because the devs know that these games are for the so called Nintendo audience; they're Nintendo-like games. We don't want your bullsht dudebroified gaming, that's why those kinds of games have sold badly over the years on Wii/GC. The catch is there are relatively few of us, so Nintendo had to expand the gaming population to include casuals, because they refuse to turn their franchises into something you'd like.

Secret Police, I read your whole post.

GPU:The Wii U's graphics processing unit is a custom AMD 7 series GPU

"We do not focus on technology specs," the company said. "We understand that people like to dissect graphics and processing power, but the experience of playing will always be more important than raw numbers."Nintendo

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

I suppose it's either a global conspiracy against the Wii U among developers and publishers.

Or maybe the Wii U is basically going to be an Xbox 360 with more Ram.

I don't really care either way because I've decided not to buy one. I was just commenting from what I've read from credible sources on numerous occasions from publishers and developers across the globe.

KC_Hokie

Global conspiracy? No, just idiot journalists who are looking for hits and know people will eat this up.

Maybe it will, but until someone opens it up and details it to us then all of this is nothing more than lies and speculation.

Word it how you will, but in the end you let someone else convince you not to buy a product that's yet to be released because they decided to twist the truth into slander, and you believed it.

One of the few reasons I was interested in the Wii U was the possible for strategy games and mmos. The Smartglass announcement just eliminated that advantage the Wii U possible had.