How the heck did GTA4 score so many 10's?

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#1 3verlastingHero
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No military.

Barley any character customization, only some cloths.

No car customization.

Smaller map.

Nothing to spend your money on, no new houses.

Bad ending.

Glitchy multiplayer, seems like an after thought.

Shorter than San Andreas.

Graphical glitches (pop ups).

Bad framerate issues when playing online.

And more, seriously how did this game get PERFECT 10's? When it is far from perfect.

EDIT: What happened to "most people don't even finish a GTA game anyways" when talking about if episodic content was needed. Every one of my friends beat GTA4 the first week they had it.

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#2 KrisG7
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Because...

Hype ftw.

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#3 deactivated-5f4694ac412a8
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IGN said something along the lines of this:

"Receiving a 10 does not mean the game is perfect; it just means that it doesn't that the good far outweights the bad and the bad wasn't large enough to take points away from.

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#4 Soulja_West
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I wish I knew why it got a 10. San Andreas imo is better than GTAIV. I had more fun with San Andreas then GTAIV.
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#5 Devourment423
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How many times does it have to be said....

10 does not mean perfect! It means it goes above and beyond what is out at the time. Do you agree with this? Probably not. Do I care? No.

I personally think it's one of the most detailed games ever so I think it deserves the high scores.

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#6 fartmixer26
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cuz compared to the older games, this is gold
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I never really thought about the money thing, what the heck can I spend on it besides clothes and guns? I wish I could buy apartments with it, maybe some sweet rides.
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#8 SSCyborg
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Just think...

100 million dollar budget.

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#9 zassimick  Moderator
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What happened to "most people don't even finish a GTA game anyways" when talking about if episodic content was needed. Every one of my friends beat GTA4 the first week they had it.

3verlastingHero

You're friends don't equal every other gamer out there. I have never finished a GTA game before and I have no clue if GTA4 will be the same or not once I get it.

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How many times does it have to be said....

10 does not mean perfect! It means it goes above and beyond what is out at the time. Do you agree with this? Probably not. Do I care? No.

I personally think it's one of the most detailed games ever so I think it deserves the high scores.

Devourment423

Explain the light green then. Where it says "perfect"

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#11 humber_matus
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IMO it deserved the 10, and i honestly think it depends on the person, if your into decent storys and more realism you'll love GTA4 ... if your into game that are oturages and pretty much a clusterF*** full of fun, then you'll love SA more.

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#12 Bigboi500
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Because...

Hype ftw.

KrisG7
I agree, it was overhyped like 99% of games now a days. Don't get me wrong its an excellent game, but it's really just more of the same with a little more polish.
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poor gta4......its going the same route as halo 3.....where people think its cool to bash it :roll:
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[QUOTE="Devourment423"]

How many times does it have to be said....

10 does not mean perfect! It means it goes above and beyond what is out at the time. Do you agree with this? Probably not. Do I care? No.

I personally think it's one of the most detailed games ever so I think it deserves the high scores.

3verlastingHero

Explain the light green then. Where it says "perfect"

Gamespot's old word for a 10 game. They have changed it a 10 to "Prime" now with the current system and they must not have changed it at that part of the site yet. Regardless, what Gamespot's charts label those 10 scores as does not mean who ever gave those games the score wanted the 10 to mean perfect.

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Because although there's plenty you could improve about the game, we're really not going to get anything better.
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#16 Heydanbud92
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hype and money
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#17 Heydanbud92
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Because although there's plenty you could improve about the game, we're really not going to get anything better. Lazy_Boy88

....how do you know the next GTA won't improve upon GTAIV??? seems to me like they purposefully left room for improvment.

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#18 fartmixer26
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[QUOTE="KrisG7"]

Because...

Hype ftw.

Bigboi500

I agree, it was overhyped like 99% of games now a days. Don't get me wrong its an excellent game, but it's really just more of the same with a little more polish.

i 2nd that

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poor gta4......its going the same route as halo 3.....where people think its cool to bash it :roll:gohan2710

Halo 3 wasn't rated a 10.

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#21 jack_michael
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my big gripe is the lack of innovation.....kinda felt like 2 steps forward, 1 step back.
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[QUOTE="gohan2710"]poor gta4......its going the same route as halo 3.....where people think its cool to bash it :roll:SSCyborg

Halo 3 wasn't rated a 10.

high-rated games always get bashed....and people fail to realize what a horrible story SA had....and not only that, people complaining about the size......dear god, go play SA, and you`ll notice that most of the map is empty!!!! desert and country side :| wow
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bro..I was asking myself the same question when Ocarina of Time came out 10 years ago. The simple answer is that hype rules all. lol
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#24 SSCyborg
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[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

[QUOTE="gohan2710"]poor gta4......its going the same route as halo 3.....where people think its cool to bash it :roll:gohan2710

Halo 3 wasn't rated a 10.

high-rated games always get bashed....and people fail to realize what a horrible story SA had....and not only that, people complaining about the size......dear god, go play SA, and you`ll notice that most of the map is empty!!!! desert and country side :| wow

Cool.

But to get a 10 you should innovate.

From what I've seen in GTA so far, there is little innovation. More like taking what's worked, and putting it together.

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[QUOTE="Devourment423"]

How many times does it have to be said....

10 does not mean perfect! It means it goes above and beyond what is out at the time. Do you agree with this? Probably not. Do I care? No.

I personally think it's one of the most detailed games ever so I think it deserves the high scores.

3verlastingHero

Explain the light green then. Where it says "perfect"

Even in the reviews they have stated that the 10 they gave didn't mean there weren't any flaws. Just read a little bit. I don't care about that little chart, but I'm sure everyone knows nothing is absolutely PERFECT.

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I never really thought about the money thing, what the heck can I spend on it besides clothes and guns? I wish I could buy apartments with it, maybe some sweet rides.xTHExJUICEx

That's what the those exclusive Episodic Content will probably include. I can only image what's going to be added. Probably a new location with new missions, weapons, cars, bikes, clothes, apartments, houses, boats and lots more.

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#27 lolfiretruck
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bro..I was asking myself the same question when Ocarina of Time came out 10 years ago. The simple answer is that hype rules all. lolnbalive4life
OoT was revolutionary.
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#28 gohan2710
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Cool.

But to get a 10 you should innovate.

From what I've seen in GTA so far, there is little innovation. More like taking what's worked, and putting it together.

SSCyborg
okay, a game will only get a 10 when its trying to innovate.....thanks, i`ll keep that in mind
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[QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"]I never really thought about the money thing, what the heck can I spend on it besides clothes and guns? I wish I could buy apartments with it, maybe some sweet rides.blackace

That's what the those exclusive Episodic Content will probably include. I can only image what's going to be added. Probably a new location with new missions, weapons, cars, bikes, clothes, apartments, houses, boats and lots more.

Probably just new missions, I don't think they would completely screw over PS3 owners by adding stuff like that. I mean what you just said would make the 360 version of GTA 4 seem like a totally different game.
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that 50 million dollars was put to good use

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[QUOTE="3verlastingHero"][QUOTE="Devourment423"]

How many times does it have to be said....

10 does not mean perfect! It means it goes above and beyond what is out at the time. Do you agree with this? Probably not. Do I care? No.

I personally think it's one of the most detailed games ever so I think it deserves the high scores.

Zassimick

Explain the light green then. Where it says "perfect"

Gamespot's old word for a 10 game. They have changed it a 10 to "Prime" now with the current system and they must not have changed it at that part of the site yet. Regardless, what Gamespot's charts label those 10 scores as does not mean who ever gave those games the score wanted the 10 to mean perfect.

My friend that '10' is also consider an opinion. So if you think it's not worht a 10 then it's up to you.

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[QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"]I never really thought about the money thing, what the heck can I spend on it besides clothes and guns? I wish I could buy apartments with it, maybe some sweet rides.blackace

That's what the those exclusive Episodic Content will probably include. I can only image what's going to be added. Probably a new location with new missions, weapons, cars, bikes, clothes, apartments, houses, boats and lots more.

I doubt they throw in all their "innovative" ideas on DLC, you'll see that in the next GTA game.

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#33 BuryMe
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It's either because it's a great game in spite o fthose flaws, bias, or a combination of the 2.

My guess is the last one.

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#34 xTHExJUICEx
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[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

Cool.

But to get a 10 you should innovate.

From what I've seen in GTA so far, there is little innovation. More like taking what's worked, and putting it together.

gohan2710

okay, a game will only get a 10 when its trying to innovate.....thanks, i`ll keep that in mind

Whats weird is the fact GS has always been hard on games that are very similar to their counter parts and GTA 4 honestly felt like every other GTA Ive played in the past. What exactly made this one a perfect 10? Its added online play?

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[QUOTE="3verlastingHero"][QUOTE="Devourment423"]

How many times does it have to be said....

10 does not mean perfect! It means it goes above and beyond what is out at the time. Do you agree with this? Probably not. Do I care? No.

I personally think it's one of the most detailed games ever so I think it deserves the high scores.

Devourment423

Explain the light green then. Where it says "perfect"

Even in the reviews they have stated that the 10 they gave didn't mean there weren't any flaws. Just read a little bit. I don't care about that little chart, but I'm sure everyone knows nothing is absolutely PERFECT.

Exactly. It goes without saying that nothing about any game with ever be perfect. Nothing about anything is perfect. There is always going to be a complaint from a lot of people about a lot of different things.

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[QUOTE="blackace"]

[QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"]I never really thought about the money thing, what the heck can I spend on it besides clothes and guns? I wish I could buy apartments with it, maybe some sweet rides.3verlastingHero

That's what the those exclusive Episodic Content will probably include. I can only image what's going to be added. Probably a new location with new missions, weapons, cars, bikes, clothes, apartments, houses, boats and lots more.

Probably just new missions, I don't think they would completely screw over PS3 owners by adding stuff like that. I mean what you just said would make the 360 version of GTA 4 seem like a totally different game.

if microsoft is fundign the addon, it will be a completely different game. You don't honestly think that they would spend 50 MILLION dollars to have the same version as PS3 with just new cars or only new missions.... do you? I mean 50 million dollars is a lot for exclusive content to be generated considering it is "garunteed money" for Rockstar... it WILL be a different game.

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#37 gohan2710
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[QUOTE="gohan2710"][QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

Cool.

But to get a 10 you should innovate.

From what I've seen in GTA so far, there is little innovation. More like taking what's worked, and putting it together.

xTHExJUICEx

okay, a game will only get a 10 when its trying to innovate.....thanks, i`ll keep that in mind

Whats weird is the fact GS has always been hard on games that are very similar to their counter parts and GTA 4 honestly felt like every other GTA Ive played in the past. What exactly made this one a perfect 10? Its added online play?

i bet u money you have not played any of the previous gta games in years......i`ll start, graphics( ****wise), physics, and interaction with the envioment, driving realism instead of arcadey, online gaming, co-op missions, omg, the game finally has a story and characters that actually have a goddamn personality and cover system
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#38 blackace
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[QUOTE="blackace"]

[QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"]I never really thought about the money thing, what the heck can I spend on it besides clothes and guns? I wish I could buy apartments with it, maybe some sweet rides.3verlastingHero

That's what the those exclusive Episodic Content will probably include. I can only image what's going to be added. Probably a new location with new missions, weapons, cars, bikes, clothes, apartments, houses, boats and lots more.

Probably just new missions, I don't think they would completely screw over PS3 owners by adding stuff like that. I mean what you just said would make the 360 version of GTA 4 seem like a totally different game.

Well M$ paid $50 million for the extra content, so it better have something else besides just a few more missions. I'm sure M$ is expecting a continuation of the story with most of what made the game great. I'm sure M$ already knows what they are getting and if it wasn't something great, they wouldn't have folked over $50mil for it.

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My question is that if a 10 isn't perfect, then why didn't Mario Galaxy get it?
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#40 SSCyborg
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[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

Cool.

But to get a 10 you should innovate.

From what I've seen in GTA so far, there is little innovation. More like taking what's worked, and putting it together.

gohan2710

okay, a game will only get a 10 when its trying to innovate.....thanks, i`ll keep that in mind

Well it should. I don't see anything that makes GTA4 worthy of a 10.

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[QUOTE="Zassimick"]

Gamespot's old word for a 10 game. They have changed it a 10 to "Prime" now with the current system and they must not have changed it at that part of the site yet. Regardless, what Gamespot's charts label those 10 scores as does not mean who ever gave those games the score wanted the 10 to mean perfect.

Bloodseeker23

My friend that '10' is also consider an opinion. So if you think it's not worht a 10 then it's up to you.

If you're talking to me, then I'll just say I know that all scores are an opinion and I never said that it wasn't. If you weren't talking to me, well yeah then everything is good. :D

But I better still be your friend. :x :| :oops:

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#42 Sully28
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poor gta4......its going the same route as halo 3.....where people think its cool to bash it :roll:gohan2710
Halo 3 didnt deserve the hype it got, so it got the bashing it got. Same for GTA 4 for me. Dont get me wrong i love it and actually just got done playing it, but a 10/10 isnt justified IMO.
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My question is that if a 10 isn't perfect, then why didn't Mario Galaxy get it?Super-Mario-Fan

or any of the mgs series or god of war.....

What is kinda dumb about the ten score for gta4 is that there is only a handful of games that have ever gotten a 10. So then those of you who support the ten score are willing to say this is one of the greatest games of all time? doubt it.

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#44 I_OU_aBeatn
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I never thought GTA IV deserved a perfect score. The fact that it got so many still baffles me. Don't get me wrong, it's a great game(probably a 9 in my book), but it just has too many nitpicky issues that get on my nerves.
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#45 Toriko42
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The game sets the bar staggeringly high in so many ways for you not to see it. It shows how games can truly be a great way to tell well crafted stories to a large audience. The graphics amaze me, the sound is excellent. Script writing is bar none, read my review.
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I don't care if it got 10's or not, all I know is that this was my favorite game so far this gen.
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[QUOTE="Lazy_Boy88"]Because although there's plenty you could improve about the game, we're really not going to get anything better. Heydanbud92

....how do you know the next GTA won't improve upon GTAIV??? seems to me like they purposefully left room for improvment.

the next GTA ... you mean the DLC right XD.

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[QUOTE="Super-Mario-Fan"]My question is that if a 10 isn't perfect, then why didn't Mario Galaxy get it?junglist101

or any of the mgs series or god of war.....

What is kinda dumb about the ten score for gta4 is that there is only a handful of games that have ever gotten a 10. So then those of you who support the ten score are willing to say this is one of the greatest games of all time? doubt it.

I agree with this. I've enjoyed other games that have gotten lesser scores more this gen... I enjoyed GTAIII more then GTAIV... stupid Roman calling me every 5 min...

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#49 ATW_machine
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Oh it deserves the 10's... but like I said earlier in another thread, some other games that met high criteria for a 10 somehow lost the opportunity for certain reasons.

To put it more simply, if Grand Theft Auto got these tens I think other games should also receive love from the magical number. You all know what these games are...