How would you feel if Xbox Live Gold raised it's price by another 10$?

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for Pug-Nasty
Pug-Nasty

8508

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#201 Pug-Nasty
Member since 2009 • 8508 Posts

[QUOTE="skilfulgary"][QUOTE="skilfulgary"] i don't even...:0dxmcat

can anyone explain the ins & outs of the exchange rate to this person.

Sure, one american dollar is worth less than both the canadian dollar and the british pound.....so they are paying even more.

What you are paying for something has little to do with what other people are paying. If people in England make more money on average than people in the U.S., then it is also true that they would likely pay more for the same thing that people in the U.S. would pay less for. And that is how the price is determined.

Live is all fixed costs that step up every now and then depending on how many users they have. There are very little variable costs associated with this "service." As such, it means nothing to them to cut a persona deal when they call in and say they are cancelling, since their costs were covered a long time ago, so anything else goes straight to the bottom line.

That's why they can charge U.S. users less than Canadian or EU users, because the users aren't actually paying for the service anymore, they are simply funding MS's GM.

Avatar image for tormentos
tormentos

33793

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#202 tormentos
Member since 2003 • 33793 Posts
[QUOTE="sts106mat"] i have been working in business for 16 years, i dont need a Macro course, dont insult my intelligence. MS have upped the live price once in ten years, and even then was nothing like the percentage increase that guy was talking about.

They increase the price on something that should have been free from the start,worst based on features like Facebook which are also free every where else,so MS philosophy is we charge for everything every one else gives for free.
Avatar image for tormentos
tormentos

33793

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#204 tormentos
Member since 2003 • 33793 Posts
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=442986 Don't know how true but there is a thread on GA about accounts been stolen,it was made like 2 weeks ago,and more than one person claim to have their account stolen.
Avatar image for deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
deactivated-57ad0e5285d73

21398

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#205 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
Member since 2009 • 21398 Posts

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]Why stop at raising it by $10? They can charge $100 for it, and the lems will still pay for it and rant at how much better it is than PSN or PC online.Timstuff

I actually suspect that next gen Xbox Live will be at least $99. It may even go to a $14.99 or $19.99/month service. I suspect MS is trying to enter the streaming tv/movie market. The next system will be rather expensive, as they always are, and they will include a "FREE 6 month Live Trial--a $200 value."

I don't doubt it. I think it's really stupid that they don't offer a base package that only includes Xbox Live online gameplay, though. Most people don't give a crap about streaming sports to their game console, and there's no reason why you should have to pay extra to access Netflix through your Xbox when you're already paying a fee for it, and PS3 and Wii offer the app for free.

Oh, I agree with you. However, with the major Kinect(casual/non gamer)push MS is making in tandem with what looks to be a new streaming service for Live? I think they are prepping to join the netflix market. Imagine having everything the others have plus more. Kinect specific Workout channels? No need to type to search for what you are looking for? Imo, it would be silly for them NOT to do this. People will disagree and state that this won't happen, but the xbox brand is no longer what it used to be.

Avatar image for savagetwinkie
savagetwinkie

7981

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#207 savagetwinkie
Member since 2008 • 7981 Posts
[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="sts106mat"] i have been working in business for 16 years, i dont need a Macro course, dont insult my intelligence. MS have upped the live price once in ten years, and even then was nothing like the percentage increase that guy was talking about.

They increase the price on something that should have been free from the start,worst based on features like Facebook which are also free every where else,so MS philosophy is we charge for everything every one else gives for free.

Why should the service be free? xbox live vs psn work completley differently, as in there is nothing built into psn, but everything is built into live. There is no serivice on any platform like live where the features are built into a layer that games can use, PC doesn't have an integrated service, it just has programs that mimic the feature's of live psn does not have an integrated service, it just has games that mimic the feature's of live
Avatar image for Midnightshade29
Midnightshade29

6003

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 301

User Lists: 0

#210 Midnightshade29
Member since 2008 • 6003 Posts

[QUOTE="Baxhand"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

It wouldnt bother me since i dont play online on 360. PS3 is my online console

finalstar2007

Smart fella

There ya go i corrected it for ya :D. no need to thank me :oops:. would rather spend my money on games!

yeah...why pay for online when you can use that money and buy extra games... to play on your free PSN Service.

Hell Even psn+ gives you free games every month and 30-60% discuonts on like everything.... and online is free without it. It's really sad how lemmings will take what M$ dishes to them ..just for tha halos and gears...makes no sense at all! To this day i have yet to understand how someone could like getting ripped off. MS tried it with PC (and they will again soon too..lol) and PC gamers were smart enough to say Screw you ms we play for free suckers, we aren't paying you a dime!"

Avatar image for StrongDeadlift
StrongDeadlift

6073

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#212 StrongDeadlift
Member since 2010 • 6073 Posts

seriously, no BS, my son (xbox live silver) has just finished playing the gunstringer, there is an offer on his dashboard for 1 months xbox live GOLD for just £1. like i said, the offers are there if you care to look

sts106mat

I saw that offer. You do realize that thats just for one month, and after the first month it auto charges you the real price ($10 per month) right? So you would really be paying like $100+ dollars for a year. Thats more expensive than just getting a prepaid card.

Avatar image for Overlord93
Overlord93

12602

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#213 Overlord93
Member since 2007 • 12602 Posts

[QUOTE="Overlord93"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] No that is not true and people who got their info stolen were not all because of that. Second people payed last gen and was basically friend list and voice chat,so yeah people will pay any way,because party chat is just an excuse,what you really pay for is online multiplaying. ""Kevin Finisterre, a security researcher at Digital Munition, raised the issue on the Full Disclosure mailing list over the weekend, calling attention to rumors that Microsoft's Bungie.net was the victim of a breach that exposed a portion of Xbox Live. "Some folks are having their Microsoft points stolen and or points purchased via their stolen gamer tag," Finisterre said. A quick search of user forums at xbox.com and other gaming sites turned up multiple messages from Xbox Live users complaining about hijacked accounts, which typically link gamer tags to Windows Live ID (formerly .NET Passport)."" http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/xbox-live-hacked-accounts-stolen/131 So in what part they say the info was stolen because they give info away.?tormentos

No, that sort of hacking is account access because the person was thick enough to set their password to "123password"

No really, this is not a physical breach of the service in any way. It is singular access of individual accounts through password guessing. It's not hacking, and it is not a breach of XBL but rather a breach of the hacked user's lacking intelligence.

Did you read the article did it actually state that some one had a weak password because if not you are assuming,i have a link all you have is assumptions.

I read the article and saw no proof whatsoever of any security breach. All I saw was some randoms who lost their account looking for someone to blame. Not a reliable source, your 'link' is just a bunch of assumptions ironically.

Give me some proof. Because you have none. Meanwhile, psn's entire service had to be offlined because every single users account got accessed. And thats not some sketchy opinion. That's fact. You have yet to put forward anything other than some baseless rumors. Even if it was true, this is a website hack. Not a service hack, any accounts that would have been accessed were this claim true, would have been accessed externally , at no fault of microsoft.. XBL remians untouched by any meaningful breach.

Also, don't just google in the hope of finding an article :roll: :lol: First result, nice detective work.

Avatar image for StrongDeadlift
StrongDeadlift

6073

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#215 StrongDeadlift
Member since 2010 • 6073 Posts

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="Baxhand"]

Smart fella

Midnightshade29

There ya go i corrected it for ya :D. no need to thank me :oops:. would rather spend my money on games!

yeah...why pay for online when you can use that money and buy extra games... to play on your free PSN Service.

Hell Even psn+ gives you free games every month and 30-60% discuonts on like everything.... and online is free without it. It's really sad how lemmings will take what M$ dishes to them ..just for tha halos and gears...makes no sense at all! To this day i have yet to understand how someone could like getting ripped off. MS tried it with PC (and they will again soon too..lol) and PC gamers were smart enough to say Screw you ms we play for free suckers, we aren't paying you a dime!"

As an owner of both consoles, while I dissagree with the price, it is laughable to compare the two services, and undermine XBL like this. XBL (and the 360 interface in general) s***s all over PSN so bad its not even funny. (and I say that as a cow).

When I was a PS3 only owner, I never even checked or cared about my messages or my inbox on PSN, or game invites because the system was so broken that its not even worth acknowleging that those features are even there.

Think about it like this, Xbox Live in its current state is like Facebook in its current state.

PSN in its current state, is like Myspace in its current state. Yes, we all know myspace has most of the features of facebook, but its so broken and unintegrated that its not even worth acknowleging that they exist. And we both know your ass isnt gonna start using Myspace again just because "it does the same thing" :lol:.

And the thing is, even if you DO use them on Myspace, Who are you going to talk to? noone cares because everyone ELSE is already on Facebook anyways.

ExposingLames/SolidRev said it best, there is no point in even communicating on PS3.

Avatar image for Midnightshade29
Midnightshade29

6003

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 301

User Lists: 0

#217 Midnightshade29
Member since 2008 • 6003 Posts
itd be ten more reasons for me not to get an xbox. i am very much against the entire idea of this. no one else in the industry does this, why does MS have to? :?starwarsjunky
Because people fell for their Marketing... simple M$ has billions of dollars, tha they put into marketing their system. More marketing than any other company ever (have you watched tv latley? Gears 3 commercial is on every 4 minutes... (well that's the only game they need to advertise this year too). AMerican's by nature (i am one, but don't follow this trend) buy what they see advertised..on tv, on ads, etc... Then all these people own this system. And they get their friends to. MS can now charge whatever they want. And the people stay because it would cost too much to switch to the ps3 or pc, and their friends are still on the xbox. MS knew what they were doing. They have been a slimy business for years now. They know how to make money, I will give them that. They are not pro-consumer..all dev costs, dlc that could be free, online charges get passed over to the consumer.. unlike say Sony who would rather pass the price to teh dev/publisher and give the consumer free online, free dlc if the dev wants, it.. etc... I didn't get into consoles again till this gen (was ps1 and skipped ps2 and went strictly pc last gen) ... I say what ms was doing to the PC gaming market and knew there were changes. I seen the bad online costs, and the dlc focus away from expansion paks, etc.. I am glad I stuck to PC and PS3 (PSP and DS and IPod touch handheld gaming) as Every other Gaming company gives online for free!! You pay for your interenet you shouldn't have to pay a "TAX" to mS to play a game you bought. Waiting for the lem revolution to start, but it never will unfortunatly. It would be the only way ms would stop charging.
Avatar image for Gxgear
Gxgear

10425

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#218 Gxgear
Member since 2003 • 10425 Posts

Isn't that exactly what Microsoft did a year ago?

Avatar image for jonathant5
jonathant5

873

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#219 jonathant5
Member since 2010 • 873 Posts
I would have no choice, it is either keep paying, or have no access to 50% of a game because I cant play the online on it. When lems say MS gives you a choice with Xlive, they are being delusional because you really have no choice, it is either pay, or dont get the benefits of half your game. And the thing is when it comes to the most important thing, which is playing online, Xbox Live is not as good as free services such as Steam or even PSN (dedicated servers, less lag in games).
Avatar image for Messiahbolical-
Messiahbolical-

5670

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#220 Messiahbolical-
Member since 2009 • 5670 Posts
I would laugh. Even after charging an extra $10/year, they'd probably STILL add even more advertisements all over the dashboard. Just keep milking their customers for every penny they can get... good ol' Microsoft will never change.
Avatar image for deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
deactivated-57ad0e5285d73

21398

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#221 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
Member since 2009 • 21398 Posts

I would have no choice, it is either keep paying, or have no access to 50% of a game because I cant play the online on it. When lems say MS gives you a choice with Xlive, they are being delusional because you really have no choice, it is either pay, or dont get the benefits of half your game. And the thing is when it comes to the most important thing, which is playing online, Xbox Live is not as good as free services such as Steam or even PSN (dedicated servers, less lag in games).jonathant5

Yeah, it isn't the money that bothers me, but the principle. I would love to have an honest poll that asked if people would pay for Gold if online multiplayer was free for the system.

Avatar image for kobedaGOAT
kobedaGOAT

293

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#222 kobedaGOAT
Member since 2006 • 293 Posts

People wouldn't care. They would just bend over and take paying more for a lagtastic mp experience. Thats exactly why the "if" should be changed to "when" because you already know MS already has a raise waiting to be announced. Poor consolites.

Avatar image for StrongDeadlift
StrongDeadlift

6073

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#223 StrongDeadlift
Member since 2010 • 6073 Posts
[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

ExposingLames/SolidRev said it best, there is no point in even communicating on PS3.

sts106mat
that guy is seriously funny, i wish he would talk some sense on this forum LOL, then again, he would probably get banned after 2 minutes what with the language he uses LOL

For the lulz, this is the video we are talking about everybody: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M-plkzTy08&feature=channel_video_title EDIT: Of course the biggest point that Rev left out was GAME updates. The Installs were never that frustrating for me (although it is still bull****), but the biggest inconvenience for me is the individual game patches. I did a very long rant about this in its own thread, but it got locked. So here is the post I made about it... http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28819590/as-a-cow-i-despise-this-about-the-ps3-so-much-its-not-even-funny-long-read?login=true [quote="StrongDeadlift"]Sony's game patch system is so broken it is unbelievable. It is seriously so broken that I can say with a straight face as a cow that the 360 is better than the PS3 for this reason alone. Seriously, it is bad. This is the number one thing I hate about the PS3. I can live through the mandatory installs (even though this in itself is still BS) but this absolutely takes the cake. I hate the fact that every time I make a Gamestop run, EVERY, and I mean EVERY single game has a patch that must be downloaded before I can play online. Now, normally such a simple process wouldnt be a problem right? I would agree with this statement if these patches werent hell to download. Heres the thing......when a game patch starts to download, it NEVER downloads strait away. What happens is that the "time remaining" counter starts to get lower and lower, but eventually it stops and starts reverting! It will say for example "23 seconds left" and will start counting down.......but eventually, it will stop at say....16, and then start counting backwards. What then happens is that the "time remaining" number eventually gets higher and higher until it says something along the lines of "880 minutes left", then it eventually stops and I get an error message. This happens EVERY SINGLE TIME a patch needs to be downloaded for a PS3 game. EVERY time WITHOUT FAIL. Now, once you get the error message, you have to cancel it, and start all over. The only thing you can do is keep doing it again and again and eventually it will DL the patch successfully. The thing is, you will most likely end up trying this 10+ times before it ends up working. Not to mention that after about the third time or so, my internet router shuts off (and I have my laptop sitting next to me whenever im playing my PS3, so if the router shuts off, I cant use it), so I have to walk all the way downstairs into my basement and f*** with my router for a few minutes. (this will be done about 3 times throughout thisprocess). Want to know the most f***ed up part about this whole ordeal? The patches are usually only like 17-24MBs. Back when the Uncharted 3 beta was going on, there was a period when I spent 2 and a half hours just trying to download the damn patch so I could play it. Oh, and it also didnt help that they released like 4 or 5 patches within the first week alone of the beta. It is to the point where I absolutely dread when games I frequently play online get new patches (such as COD). I just bought Bad Company 2 yesterday (along with like 4 other games), and have not been able to play it because of Sony's f***ing terrible patch system. Side note.......BC2 has a 1.7GB patch REQUIRED for you to play online. /rant

Avatar image for Messiahbolical-
Messiahbolical-

5670

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#224 Messiahbolical-
Member since 2009 • 5670 Posts

As an owner of both consoles, while I dissagree with the price, it is laughable to compare the two services, and undermine XBL like this. XBL (and the 360 interface in general) s***s all over PSN so bad its not even funny. (and I say that as a cow).

When I was a PS3 only owner, I never even checked or cared about my messages or my inbox on PSN, or game invites because the system was so broken that its not even worth acknowleging that those features are even there.

Think about it like this, Xbox Live in its current state is like Facebook in its current state.

PSN in its current state, is like Myspace in its current state. Yes, we all know myspace has most of the features of facebook, but its so broken and unintegrated that its not even worth acknowleging that they exist. And we both know your ass isnt gonna start using Myspace again just because "it does the same thing" :lol:.

And the thing is, even if you DO use them on Myspace, Who are you going to talk to? noone cares because everyone ELSE is already on Facebook anyways.

ExposingLames/SolidRev said it best, there is no point in even communicating on PS3.

StrongDeadlift
I'm sorry but your post made zero sense. You said PSN has the same features of XBL but they're so broken, yet you never actually explained why they're so broken. And who is ExposingLames and SolidRev? Are these supposed to be people I'm familiar with? But yeah, I've never had any problem communicating or accepting game invites on PSN, so I don't understand why there's "no point" in doing so. The only thing that I can think of that would make communicating on PSN much better than it already is would be cross game party chat, but we've already seen how that turns games into ghost towns with everyone in the game in a party so it just sucks for people who don't have a party. Personally I'd love it, but I can see how it would suck for someone who doesn't have friends to talk to so you can't keep everybody happy.
Avatar image for Jynxzor
Jynxzor

9313

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#225 Jynxzor
Member since 2003 • 9313 Posts
The ammount of people who stuck around after the first hike shows how "by the balls" Microsoft has gamers, holding the online gaming experience hostage is pretty much 50% of the reason people probably pay for it. What confuses is me is how people buy a 360 for online games when it really only has a select few exclusive titles nowdays. I guess it's also the "My friends own one" symptoms as well. Stay classy Microsoft.
Avatar image for deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6

6176

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#226 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
Member since 2009 • 6176 Posts

I would be even further glad that I quit paying for xbox live gold.

Avatar image for Grawse
Grawse

4342

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#227 Grawse
Member since 2010 • 4342 Posts

[QUOTE="sts106mat"][QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

ExposingLames/SolidRev said it best, there is no point in even communicating on PS3.

StrongDeadlift

that guy is seriously funny, i wish he would talk some sense on this forum LOL, then again, he would probably get banned after 2 minutes what with the language he uses LOL

For the lulz, this is the video we are talking about everybody: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M-plkzTy08&feature=channel_video_title

lol, I've been following him a long time. Luckily, I have almost no friends on PS3 (not in a sad way lol), so trying to message and communicate on PSN isn't a problem for me. I couldn't even invite people to a game of Uncharted 2 if they weren't on my friends list. I just keep to myself in MP and mainly play SP on PS3 anyways.

Avatar image for StrongDeadlift
StrongDeadlift

6073

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#228 StrongDeadlift
Member since 2010 • 6073 Posts

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

As an owner of both consoles, while I dissagree with the price, it is laughable to compare the two services, and undermine XBL like this. XBL (and the 360 interface in general) s***s all over PSN so bad its not even funny. (and I say that as a cow).

When I was a PS3 only owner, I never even checked or cared about my messages or my inbox on PSN, or game invites because the system was so broken that its not even worth acknowleging that those features are even there.

Think about it like this, Xbox Live in its current state is like Facebook in its current state.

PSN in its current state, is like Myspace in its current state. Yes, we all know myspace has most of the features of facebook, but its so broken and unintegrated that its not even worth acknowleging that they exist. And we both know your ass isnt gonna start using Myspace again just because "it does the same thing" :lol:.

And the thing is, even if you DO use them on Myspace, Who are you going to talk to? noone cares because everyone ELSE is already on Facebook anyways.

ExposingLames/SolidRev said it best, there is no point in even communicating on PS3.

Messiahbolical-

I'm sorry but your post made zero sense.You said PSN has the same features of XBL but they're so broken, yet you never actually explained why they're so broken. And who is ExposingLames and SolidRev? Are these supposed to be people I'm familiar with? But yeah, I've never had any problem communicating or accepting game invites on PSN, so I don't understand why there's "no point" in doing so. The only thing that I can think of that would make communicating on PSN much better than it already is would be cross game party chat, but we've already seen how that turns games into ghost towns with everyone in the game in a party so it just sucks for people who don't have a party. Personally I'd love it, but I can see how it would suck for someone who doesn't have friends to talk to so you can't keep everybody happy.

I hate to "/thread" you bro, but if you own both systems like I do, you would know how much superior the 360 "experience" is when compared to the PS3. You would not need me to explain these things to you. Remember, I am telling you this as a COW.

Avatar image for almasdeathchild
almasdeathchild

8922

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 9

User Lists: 0

#229 almasdeathchild
Member since 2011 • 8922 Posts

wouldnt care it's worth more than were paying

Avatar image for Ly_the_Fairy
Ly_the_Fairy

8541

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#230 Ly_the_Fairy
Member since 2011 • 8541 Posts
[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]The ammount of people who stuck around after the first hike shows how "by the balls" Microsoft has gamers, holding the online gaming experience hostage is pretty much 50% of the reason people probably pay for it. What confuses is me is how people buy a 360 for online games when it really only has a select few exclusive titles nowdays. I guess it's also the "My friends own one" symptoms as well. Stay classy Microsoft.

I like how anybody who plays, or owns a 360 is "bending over" for Microsoft according to everyone in this thread. Every single friend of mine is a PC gamer just like me, and yet many of them own 360's for their console online. A few of them own PS3's, and don't even touch the online. Know why? Because they feel the Xbox Live service is worth paying for. If it was just online people were paying for why wouldn't they just use their PS3's, and save the $60? It'd be mighty stupid of someone to keep paying for Live when they could just play their Xbox games online on the PS3 instead huh? They're paying because they KNOW the service is far superior to what they get elsewhere. When Sony provides Xbox Live quality for free then start talking. As for now nobody in their right mind would say PSN comes close in terms of services, features, or convenience.
Avatar image for deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6

6176

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#231 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
Member since 2009 • 6176 Posts

wouldnt care it's worth more than were paying

almasdeathchild

Lolno. Playing online should be free like it always has been.

Avatar image for kobedaGOAT
kobedaGOAT

293

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#232 kobedaGOAT
Member since 2006 • 293 Posts

I always get a laugh when people try to justify paying for a below average MP experience. I can't wait to hear how much MS bends ya'll over for next gen.

Avatar image for theuncharted34
theuncharted34

14529

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#233 theuncharted34
Member since 2010 • 14529 Posts

I'd have a good long laugh about it.

Not sure why M$oft doesn't just raise the price to $100 a year, people will still pay it! :lol:

Avatar image for almasdeathchild
almasdeathchild

8922

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 9

User Lists: 0

#234 almasdeathchild
Member since 2011 • 8922 Posts

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

wouldnt care it's worth more than were paying

Crossel777

Lolno. Playing online should be free like it always has been.

always? ever heard you get what you paid for?xbl is like what 5$ a month? and if it was raised to 15-20 thats like paying a WoW subscription and for people that play it for hours?no it shouldnt be free.but it shouldnt be raised either

Avatar image for Ly_the_Fairy
Ly_the_Fairy

8541

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#235 Ly_the_Fairy
Member since 2011 • 8541 Posts

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

wouldnt care it's worth more than were paying

Crossel777

Lolno. Playing online should be free like it always has been.

Free "like it always has been". I like that idea. We give both consoles absolutely free online. Nobody is paying for it anywhere. Not Sony, not MS, not anyone, and see how long it lasts.
Avatar image for Jynxzor
Jynxzor

9313

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#236 Jynxzor
Member since 2003 • 9313 Posts
When Sony provides Xbox Live quality for free then start talking. As for now nobody in their right mind would say PSN comes close in terms of services, features, or convenience.Ly_the_Fairy
I don't see the difference. One system I turn on, pay my money then play online. The other I turn on and then play online. Crossgame chat isn't worth it to me...but I guess thats what makes it "Superior". as I stated there is also a good majority of people who are forced to play on Live due to it being their only option to play with friends. It's a vicious cycle, you buy a 360 to play Halo or whatever exclusive you really want online, so do all your friends. You all pay to play and now when you are tired of paying but still want to play...you can't just hop on the PS3 because either you or your friends don't own one.
Avatar image for StrongDeadlift
StrongDeadlift

6073

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#237 StrongDeadlift
Member since 2010 • 6073 Posts
lol, I've been following him a long time. Luckily, I have almost no friends on PS3 (not in a sad way lol), so trying to message and communicate on PSN isn't a problem for me. I couldn't even invite people to a game of Uncharted 2 if they weren't on my friends list. I just keep to myself in MP and mainly play SP on PS3 anyways.Grawse
This. I would just hop into matchmaking and call it a day. I didnt even have a mic. Read my edit though. Of course the biggest point that Rev left out was GAME updates. The Installs were never that frustrating for me (although it is still bull****), but the biggest inconvenience for me is the individual game patches. I did a very long rant about this in its own thread, but it got locked. So here is the post I made about it... http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28819590/as-a-cow-i-despise-this-about-the-ps3-so-much-its-not-even-funny-long-read?login=true [quote="StrongDeadlift"]Sony's game patch system is so broken it is unbelievable. It is seriously so broken that I can say with a straight face as a cow that the 360 is better than the PS3 for this reason alone. Seriously, it is bad. This is the number one thing I hate about the PS3. I can live through the mandatory installs (even though this in itself is still BS) but this absolutely takes the cake. I hate the fact that every time I make a Gamestop run, EVERY, and I mean EVERY single game has a patch that must be downloaded before I can play online. Now, normally such a simple process wouldnt be a problem right? I would agree with this statement if these patches werent hell to download. Heres the thing......when a game patch starts to download, it NEVER downloads strait away. What happens is that the "time remaining" counter starts to get lower and lower, but eventually it stops and starts reverting! It will say for example "23 seconds left" and will start counting down.......but eventually, it will stop at say....16, and then start counting backwards. What then happens is that the "time remaining" number eventually gets higher and higher until it says something along the lines of "880 minutes left", then it eventually stops and I get an error message. This happens EVERY SINGLE TIME a patch needs to be downloaded for a PS3 game. EVERY time WITHOUT FAIL. Now, once you get the error message, you have to cancel it, and start all over. The only thing you can do is keep doing it again and again and eventually it will DL the patch successfully. The thing is, you will most likely end up trying this 10+ times before it ends up working. Not to mention that after about the third time or so, my internet router shuts off (and I have my laptop sitting next to me whenever im playing my PS3, so if the router shuts off, I cant use it), so I have to walk all the way downstairs into my basement and f*** with my router for a few minutes. (this will be done about 3 times throughout thisprocess). Want to know the most f***ed up part about this whole ordeal? The patches are usually only like 17-24MBs. Back when the Uncharted 3 beta was going on, there was a period when I spent 2 and a half hours just trying to download the damn patch so I could play it. Oh, and it also didnt help that they released like 4 or 5 patches within the first week alone of the beta. It is to the point where I absolutely dread when games I frequently play online get new patches (such as COD). I just bought Bad Company 2 yesterday (along with like 4 other games), and have not been able to play it because of Sony's f***ing terrible patch system. Side note.......BC2 has a 1.7GB patch REQUIRED for you to play online. /rant

I was floored when I got my 360, and put a game in, and the system downloaded and installed the game update in LITERALLY about 5 seconds (also worth noting that the 360 doesnt even leave the game, nor does it have seperate "downloading" then "installation" screens. Its just a five second loading bar, and you never even leave the opening menu). I felt stupid as hell for even buying that game on PS3, not to mention the 360 controller is so much better than the Dualshock its not even funny. When I got Killzone 3, it was an entire month before I could even play the damn game online because of the broken ass patch system. And I only played like 2 matches before trading the game in, because I stopped caring.
Avatar image for deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6

6176

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#238 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
Member since 2009 • 6176 Posts

[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

wouldnt care it's worth more than were paying

Ly_the_Fairy

Lolno. Playing online should be free like it always has been.

Free "like it always has been". I like that idea. We give both consoles absolutely free online. Nobody is paying for it anywhere. Not Sony, not MS, not anyone, and see how long it lasts.

Free for the consumer, silly. Like it always has been.

Avatar image for deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab

17476

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#239 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
Member since 2008 • 17476 Posts
I would do the same thing as i have done before. Not own an xbox 360.
Avatar image for StrongDeadlift
StrongDeadlift

6073

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#240 StrongDeadlift
Member since 2010 • 6073 Posts
[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]When Sony provides Xbox Live quality for free then start talking. As for now nobody in their right mind would say PSN comes close in terms of services, features, or convenience.Jynxzor
Crossgame chat isn't worth it to me...but I guess thats what makes it "Superior". as I stated there is also a good majority of people who are forced to play on Live due to it being their only option to play with friends. It's a vicious cycle, you buy a 360 to play Halo or whatever exclusive you really want online, so do all your friends. You all pay to play and now when you are tired of paying but still want to play...you can't just hop on the PS3 because either you or your friends don't own one.

Bro, I was a cow. PS3 was my first platform this gen. I got a 360, and I can safely say as an owner of both, than 360 b**** smacks the PS3 in the overall experience this gen, including Xbox live. The entire thing in general is more user friendly. Like I said, Xbox live = Facebook........PSN = Myspace. And we all know you arent going to start using Myspace again just because "dey both do da same thing!". EDIT: Actually, comparing PSN to Myspace isnt even a fair comparison. A more fitting comparison would be comparing PSN to those old offsite AOL "profiles", or Yahoo messenger contacts or something.
Avatar image for Ly_the_Fairy
Ly_the_Fairy

8541

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#241 Ly_the_Fairy
Member since 2011 • 8541 Posts

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"][QUOTE="Crossel777"]

Lolno. Playing online should be free like it always has been.

Crossel777

Free "like it always has been". I like that idea. We give both consoles absolutely free online. Nobody is paying for it anywhere. Not Sony, not MS, not anyone, and see how long it lasts.

Free for the consumer, silly. Like it always has been.

So you want someone else to pay for you "like it always has been"?

That's basically what I do. I mooch off all those hard working Americans who pay for servers in my favorite online games. They ask me to donate, but screw them.

Avatar image for DragonfireXZ95
DragonfireXZ95

26715

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#242 DragonfireXZ95
Member since 2005 • 26715 Posts

[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

As long as I can still find deals on Live 12 month cards that let me pay $30 a year they can go up on price all they want. It's like buying a car..only idiots pay full price.

sts106mat

exactly, i have renewed my subscription at £23 for the last two years, one an offer on live itself, the second time a quick phonecall to MS - ME = "err i am thinking of cancelling XBL renewal", MS = "no problem sir, your account is elligible for 33% discount as you haven't lapsed your membership for 3 years."

"don't worry sir, we'll let you pay only a little bit to unlock the MP in the games that you've bought." *happy customer hangs up phone* MS, "Don't worry, we still screwed him!" Lol :lol:
Avatar image for jonathant5
jonathant5

873

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#243 jonathant5
Member since 2010 • 873 Posts
[QUOTE="Jynxzor"][QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]When Sony provides Xbox Live quality for free then start talking. As for now nobody in their right mind would say PSN comes close in terms of services, features, or convenience.StrongDeadlift
Crossgame chat isn't worth it to me...but I guess thats what makes it "Superior". as I stated there is also a good majority of people who are forced to play on Live due to it being their only option to play with friends. It's a vicious cycle, you buy a 360 to play Halo or whatever exclusive you really want online, so do all your friends. You all pay to play and now when you are tired of paying but still want to play...you can't just hop on the PS3 because either you or your friends don't own one.

Bro, I was a cow. PS3 was my first platform this gen. I got a 360, and I can safely say as an owner of both, than 360 b**** smacks the PS3 in the overall experience this gen, including Xbox live. The entire thing in general is more user friendly. Like I said, Xbox live = Facebook........PSN = Myspace. And we all know you arent going to start using Myspace again just because "dey both do da same thing!". EDIT: Actually, comparing PSN to Myspace isnt even a fair comparison. A more fitting comparison would be comparing PSN to those old offsite AOL "profiles", or Yahoo messenger contacts or something.

Get off your high horse bud, you owning both consoles does not mean that the other guy does not own both or that his views are any less valid than yours. SImply put, when it comes to what it matters, which is online, PSN is just as good, if not slightly better, due to the lesser amount of lag experience within the games. In fact even on multiplats (BF BC2) the PS3 version plays btter online than the x360 one
Avatar image for Mozelleple112
Mozelleple112

11293

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#244 Mozelleple112
Member since 2011 • 11293 Posts

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

It wouldnt bother me since i dont play online on 360. PS3 is my online console

Baxhand

Poor fella.

Why is he a poor fella?
Avatar image for Messiahbolical-
Messiahbolical-

5670

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#245 Messiahbolical-
Member since 2009 • 5670 Posts

I hate to "/thread" you bro, but if you own both systems like I do, you would know how much superior the 360 "experience" is when compared to the PS3. You would not need me to explain these things to you. Remember, I am telling you this as a COW.

StrongDeadlift
I never said the XBL "experience" isn't better than PSN's. Trust me I've used XBL more than enough to know this. But how does that make PSN "broken" or "pointless to use" like you stated? That makes no sense. Just because something's not quite as good doesn't make it useless. I watched the video you linked, and basically he made a big deal about a bunch of ticky tack things like game updates, installing games, and not being able to appear offline. Who really cares? Sure it would be nice if that stuff was improved but is it really that important? I didn't hear him mention anything about the stupid stuff on XBL like the Ads that cover the dashboard even though you're paying a subscription fee, or having to pay $10 just to change your screen name, or how Microsoft is so bad at letting 3rd party developers integrate their stuff into XBL that they're driving away even big-name companies like Valve from putting cool stuff like SteamWorks like they are on the PS3 with Portal 2 and now the new Counter Strike sequel. XBL has it's downsides just like any service does. You can't call a service "broken" just because it has some flaws. Everything has their pros and cons. Aside from a few minor features and improvements, XBL is pretty much the exact same "experience" as PSN when it comes down to both of their main purposes, playing games online, which is what you'll be using both of them for 99+% of the time. Sure, 1% of that time on PSN will probably be taken up by minor inconveniences compared to 0.1% on XBL, but life is full of inconveniences and it's something that you just have to get over. Would you rather the PS3 be exactly like XBL and have to pay $60/year for it on top of your $60/year XBL? I sure as hell wouldn't. I'll keep my free inconveniences over convenience that comes with a price any day.
Avatar image for dream431ca
dream431ca

10165

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#246 dream431ca
Member since 2003 • 10165 Posts

What is this pay for online thing? I do my gaming on a PC mostly, so I don't get paying for online, unless your talking about paying my ISP for internet.

Avatar image for Jynxzor
Jynxzor

9313

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#247 Jynxzor
Member since 2003 • 9313 Posts
[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"] Bro, I was a cow. PS3 was my first platform this gen. I got a 360, and I can safely say as an owner of both, than 360 b**** smacks the PS3 in the overall experience this gen, including Xbox live. The entire thing in general is more user friendly.

Please do elaborate on how Playing my online games is any easier with live than it is with PSN? I've stated I don't care about the extra features, I want my Online gameplay. I don't care about chatting with my "Bro" who isn't in the same game, I don't care about the other junk Live offers as it has no bearing on my online gaming experience. I want to be able to play my games online without jumping through payment plan hoops. If Live was so superior Microsoft wouldn't be afraid to offer the online service free of charge while allowing people to "Pay" for the things they justify the charges for. Let's see how long that lasts.
Avatar image for Nozizaki
Nozizaki

1471

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 11

User Lists: 0

#248 Nozizaki
Member since 2007 • 1471 Posts

I'd buy less games on 360 every year for the rest of my life.

Avatar image for tarzanell
tarzanell

1503

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#249 tarzanell
Member since 2006 • 1503 Posts
Is this market research? You guys do realize you should be paid to give this Microsoft employee your answers?
Avatar image for StrongDeadlift
StrongDeadlift

6073

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#250 StrongDeadlift
Member since 2010 • 6073 Posts

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

I hate to "/thread" you bro, but if you own both systems like I do, you would know how much superior the 360 "experience" is when compared to the PS3. You would not need me to explain these things to you. Remember, I am telling you this as a COW.

Messiahbolical-

I never said the XBL "experience" isn't better than PSN's. Trust me I've used XBL more than enough to know this. But how does that make PSN "broken" or "pointless to use" like you stated? That makes no sense. Just because something's not quite as good doesn't make it useless. I watched the video you linked, and basically he made a big deal about a bunch of ticky tack things like game updates, installing games, and not being able to appear offline. Who really cares? Sure it would be nice if that stuff was improved but is it really that important? I didn't hear him mention anything about the stupid stuff on XBL like the Ads that cover the dashboard even though you're paying a subscription fee, or having to pay $10 just to change your screen name, or how Microsoft is so bad at letting 3rd party developers integrate their stuff into XBL that they're driving away even big-name companies like Valve from putting cool stuff like SteamWorks like they are on the PS3 with Portal 2 and now the new Counter Strike sequel. XBL has it's downsides just like any service does. You can't call a service "broken" just because it has some flaws. Everything has their pros and cons. Aside from a few minor features and improvements, XBL is pretty much the exact same "experience" as PSN when it comes down to both of their main purposes, playing games online, which is what you'll be using both of them for 99+% of the time. Sure, 1% of that time on PSN will probably be taken up by minor inconveniences compared to 0.1% on XBL, but life is full of inconveniences and it's something that you just have to get over. Would you rather the PS3 be exactly like XBL and have to pay $60/year for it on top of your $60/year XBL? I sure as hell wouldn't. I'll keep my free inconveniences over convenience that comes with a price any day.

Really? The ads that "cover" the dashboard? :lol: Funny, Im on the 360 dashboard right now, and on the Spotlight section (the 360 equivalent of the "whats new" section on PS3), and right now I dont see a single non-game related ad on the system. There is usually ONE ad up there, like a Nissan ad or something, but you have to actively go out of your way to see it.

This is how you identify people who do not own 360s or regularly play them, if you are pointing this out as a legitimate concern to your gaming experience.

These are the ads you are complaining about:

You will spend an entire 4 seconds in this screen. Also, note that this is the ONLY non 360 gaming related ad in this section, and I had to scroll through like 10 the ads just to find it. Every single ad on there except this Nissan one is advertising something 360 related. Right now, there is an ad for Gears 3, an ad for extending your XBL for $1, some s*** about Kinect, an add for Fifa12, and a host of other 360 related things. The Nissan ad was actually 7 ads down. Are you telling me that this bothers you?

But look at this........would you look at that! :o an ad for Lil' Wayne's "the Carter 4" on PS3, and the movie THOR. I guess your PS3 gaming experience is ruined :roll: . (also, note that after taking this picture, there is a footbal ad up there for Direct TV "NFL Sunday Ticket". Guess that ruins your experience huh?

The thing about it is...who cares? Not only do you spend 4 seconds on here, you have to actively go out of your way just to even see the ads. This is the stupidest arguement I have ever seen a PS3 fanboy use to discredit the 360, and I am a Cow.