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It brings a manly tear to my eye seeing so many a brave soul defend this epic game till their dieing breath. Shine on, you brave warriors, shine on.
I am not defending Amalur at all....It brings a manly tear to my eye seeing so many a brave soul defend this epic game till their dieing breath. Shine on, you brave warriors, shine on.
Master_ShakeXXX
[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]I am not defending Amalur at all....It brings a manly tear to my eye seeing so many a brave soul defend this epic game till their dieing breath. Shine on, you brave warriors, shine on.
texasgoldrush
Oh? Well **** you then!
Ha just kidding.
actually I am not getting Amalur...I am going to play the directors last game instead, Ultima V Lazarus. Why? Its not generic. It just goes to show how overrated DAO is. Kevin clearly moves the goalposts here.It's just a review, an opinion of the game. He probably liked DA:O more for whatever reason, just like you apparently like KoA more for whatever reason. If you like the game just play it, make thread on how great it is and all that... don't come crying about it's reviews.
Desmonic
[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Desmonic"]actually I am not getting Amalur...I am going to play the directors last game instead, Ultima V Lazarus. Why? Its not generic. It just goes to show how overrated DAO is. You playing some other game show's DA:O is overrated.........how? Just curious bro :P Anyway I didn't defend either game. I just said that it's pointless to cry over reviews. If you like the game just play it, that's all. No, I am criticizing the reviewer here for moving the goal posts..why did DAO get a pass when Amalur doesn't? Why not judge by the same standards?It's just a review, an opinion of the game. He probably liked DA:O more for whatever reason, just like you apparently like KoA more for whatever reason. If you like the game just play it, make thread on how great it is and all that... don't come crying about it's reviews.
Desmonic
[QUOTE="Desmonic"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] actually I am not getting Amalur...I am going to play the directors last game instead, Ultima V Lazarus. Why? Its not generic. It just goes to show how overrated DAO is.texasgoldrushYou playing some other game show's DA:O is overrated.........how? Just curious bro :P Anyway I didn't defend either game. I just said that it's pointless to cry over reviews. If you like the game just play it, that's all. No, I am criticizing the reviewer here for moving the goal posts..why did DAO get a pass when Amalur doesn't? Why not judge by the same standards?DAO was more hyped I guess. I have never been a fan of KVO as a reviewer at all and never pay attention to his reviews at all. As far as the games though I lkiked both Dragon Ages and I like the KoA demo.
Maybe because was a far better quality generic, like Skyrim
Amalur is the lowest quality RPG i have seen in years, even Bastion seems to have vastly better production values
Wow...you're on a mission, aren't you? ;)Maybe because was a far better quality generic, like Skyrim
Amalur is the lowest quality RPG i have seen in years, even Bastion seems to have vastly better production values
loosingENDS
[QUOTE="Desmonic"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] actually I am not getting Amalur...I am going to play the directors last game instead, Ultima V Lazarus. Why? Its not generic. It just goes to show how overrated DAO is.texasgoldrushYou playing some other game show's DA:O is overrated.........how? Just curious bro :P Anyway I didn't defend either game. I just said that it's pointless to cry over reviews. If you like the game just play it, that's all. No, I am criticizing the reviewer here for moving the goal posts..why did DAO get a pass when Amalur doesn't? Why not judge by the same standards?DAO has better writing
Yes, because what you said are facts, texasgoldrush..
Personally, I thought the underlying world in DA:O: the politics, the racial structure turned the typical high-fantasy tropes on their head. It's terribly generic from an aesthetic standpoint.
Anyway, type away texasgoldrush. Kev gets paid for his opinions - you dont. And maybe, just maybe, that one day, you'll understand what an opinion is and when that time comes, you'll at least be almost half the homosexual man Kevin VanOrd is.
You're welcome.
No, I am criticizing the reviewer here for moving the goal posts..why did DAO get a pass when Amalur doesn't? Why not judge by the same standards?DAO has better writing[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Desmonic"] You playing some other game show's DA:O is overrated.........how? Just curious bro :P Anyway I didn't defend either game. I just said that it's pointless to cry over reviews. If you like the game just play it, that's all.jettpack
This is probably the correct answer. KoA's dialogue didn't seem all that great either. Though there was one moment in the demo where I accused that old Fateweaver guy of being drunk and he replied back "I am"
Freakin hilarious.
I don't see the resistance to an honest question, and one that KVO himself had to figure he'd have to answer from time to time when he decided to "evolve" his standards. I commend him for wanting to move to what he considers a better, more honest scoring criteria, but it was his own inflated scoring that has people wondering exactly where new games like KoA fit. I know, some here simply ignore all/some reviewers at this point, and while I understand that sentiment, I hardly think that's what KVO is shooting for. What harm is there in helping your readers understand your change in thinking in the context of other, similar games you've reviewed before?
and yet, the Ultima series, especially Ultima VI, and The Witcher also had racial structures...there is no head turning here, just more copying. And really, the City Elf Origin is so Witcher, its not even funny. Racial and magic politics are no longer original. The underlying world is one big ripoff. The reason why DAII is more original is story structure and premise, the themes and lore in that game are not.Yes, because what you said are facts, texasgoldrush..
Personally, I thought the underlying world in DA:O: the politics, the racial structure turned the typical high-fantasy tropes on their head. It's terribly generic from an aesthetic standpoint.
Anyway, type away texasgoldrush. Kev gets paid for his opinions - you dont. And maybe, just maybe, that one day, you'll understand what an opinion is and when that time comes, you'll at least be almost half the homosexual man Kevin VanOrd is.
You're welcome.
illmatic87
[QUOTE="illmatic87"]and yet, the Ultima series, especially Ultima VI, and The Witcher also had racial structures...there is no head turning here, just more copying. And really, the City Elf Origin is so Witcher, its not even funny. Racial and magic politics are no longer original. The underlying world is one big ripoff. The reason why DAII is more original is story structure and premise, the themes and lore in that game are not.Yes, because what you said are facts, texasgoldrush..
Personally, I thought the underlying world in DA:O: the politics, the racial structure turned the typical high-fantasy tropes on their head. It's terribly generic from an aesthetic standpoint.
Anyway, type away texasgoldrush. Kev gets paid for his opinions - you dont. And maybe, just maybe, that one day, you'll understand what an opinion is and when that time comes, you'll at least be almost half the homosexual man Kevin VanOrd is.
You're welcome.
texasgoldrush
The reason why DAII is more original is story structure and premise, the themes and lore in that game are not.texasgoldrushAnd the reason no one likes DA2 is because it's a fairly poor game. What's different, even in the land of video game tales doesn't salvage it. It's about the sum of its parts, not cherry picking what was done before and scrutinising it for it.
[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] The reason why DAII is more original is story structure and premise, the themes and lore in that game are not.skrat_01And the reason no one likes DA2 is because it's a fairly poor game. What's different, even in the land of video game tales doesn't salvage it. It's about the sum of its parts, not cherry picking what was done before and scrutinising it for it. and yet people do, the game has even have above 90 reviews. And I would rate DAII far lower than 90.
OP can just replace "Dragon Age: Origins" with any recent BioWare game and it'd still be pretty accurate.
I don't care for Amalur besides the fact that Curt Schilling was involved and he's awesome.
and yet people do, the game has even have above 90 reviews. And I would rate DAII far lower than 90.texasgoldrushPeople have different opinions, and perspectives. If they think the game is worth whatever numerical value, I don't really care. What it boils down to the written content. I'd be happy with a written review handing out a 90 something to Dragon Age 2, if it's well written justified piece; and instead there's something like the PC Gamer review which was everything but that.
Is Jade Empire generic? Nope. Mass Effect has some generic parts, but the sum of those parts is not generic. Not like DAO.OP can just replace "Dragon Age: Origins" with any recent BioWare game and it'd still be pretty accurate.
I don't care for Amalur besides the fact that Curt Schilling was involved and he's awesome.
Aljosa23
Is Jade Empire generic? Nope. Mass Effect has some generic parts, but the sum of those parts is not generic. Not like DAO.texasgoldrushBioWare's portrayal of China has been done in just about every Wuxia film but in video games, sure. It wasn't all that generic but I'd hardly consider that a recent game.
It also sucked.
While Dragon Age's story wasn't exactly original, nor was the art design or presentation, the characters in the game world were done exceptionally well thanks to good writing and sharp voice acting, and the setting had a number or interesting locations fleshed out by the game's lore.
[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Is Jade Empire generic? Nope. Mass Effect has some generic parts, but the sum of those parts is not generic. Not like DAO.OP can just replace "Dragon Age: Origins" with any recent BioWare game and it'd still be pretty accurate.
I don't care for Amalur besides the fact that Curt Schilling was involved and he's awesome.
texasgoldrush
OK, can I ask you something? WHY should we care? That's your opinion. Your opinion doesn't mean that the game is indeed generic and boring for the rest of us.
Seriously, are you all trying to take DarkLink down from his pedestal as being the Most Egotistical Person on System Wars? This ain't the way to do it, ya know.
And yet the characters are ripped from Bioware's past games, please, Allistair is just Carth as a "knight". Everything in that game is recycled. The dialogue is decent, but the story is unfocused. In fact they spent too much on the lore that has nothing to do with plot.While Dragon Age's story wasn't exactly original, nor was the art design or presentation, the characters in the game world were done exceptionally well thanks to good writing and sharp voice acting, and the setting had a number or interesting locations fleshed out by the game's lore.
brickdoctor
Is Jade Empire generic? Nope. Mass Effect has some generic parts, but the sum of those parts is not generic. Not like DAO.[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]
OP can just replace "Dragon Age: Origins" with any recent BioWare game and it'd still be pretty accurate.
I don't care for Amalur besides the fact that Curt Schilling was involved and he's awesome.
Goyoshi12
OK, can I ask you something? WHY should we care? That's your opinion. Your opinion doesn't mean that the game is indeed generic and boring for the rest of us.
Seriously, are you all trying to take DarkLink down from his pedestal as being the Most Egotistical Person on System Wars? This ain't the way to do it, ya know.
And how credible does a reviewer that changes his standards or apllies double standards? That is the point of this. Reviewers have double standards...like how Assassin's Creed Revelations scores are brought down for being a rehash while Modern Warfare 3 does the same thing. They should be criticized.I think it's two reasons:
1. Standards over time, gotta realize even though it's been only almost a year standards may have changed? idk, just a guess though.
2. Notice GS is getting more harsh on their reviews, this gen has lasted quite a while, so they're probably starting to have pretty high expectations, or are just ready for some 'Next Gen' experiences.
Again, just guesses.
Also, DA II review in 'The Bad' section: "Main story lacks focus and drive." Sounds like another way of saying 'Generic story'
Also, it's .5 points lower on the score, a year later, not that big of a difference, had this game released around this time last year, maybe it too would be an 8.0. If you're going by score when talking about his judgement in quality.
Oh, and also, it's his opinion. You may like the story, so why not write a review and put your opinions as to why you think it's above average?
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