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#51 SmashingX
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It's a good game, but the only thing that shocked me was how little evolution there was from COD4. I thought it would be as fresh as COD4. Still great, but not new enough to wow me. Absolutely do not regret my purchase though.

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that was my gripe too. perfect game and worth every penny but it didn't do anything innovative, just bigger and better.

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[QUOTE="sxdx89"]

[QUOTE="NoRussian"] So, what could possibly compare to Spec Ops? Gears of War's Horde? :lol:NoRussian

Spec Ops isn't that great. Many of them seem to just be slightly tweaked parts from the campaign. Now I haven't finished all of them but most of the ones I've played are like that.

And Horde is great, albiet different from Spec Ops.

Horde is terrible, compared to Spec Ops. Ugly, boring and full of glitches.

mate the timesplitters challenges were better than spec opps...
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The single player was a blast from start to finish but the story was super weak and very short ... KZ2s was much better, however the MP is extremely addictive BUT campers are really killing it for me.

Me and a bunch of Socom buddies played last night and anytime we got a nice lead on the other team they would resort to camping which in turned lead to us losing the match .... so annoying.

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#54 NoRussian
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[QUOTE="NoRussian"][QUOTE="sxdx89"]

Spec Ops isn't that great. Many of them seem to just be slightly tweaked parts from the campaign. Now I haven't finished all of them but most of the ones I've played are like that.

And Horde is great, albiet different from Spec Ops.

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Horde is terrible, compared to Spec Ops. Ugly, boring and full of glitches.

mate the timesplitters challenges were better than spec opps...

Never played it, but have a hard time believeing it. :)
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#55 heretrix
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Why would you buy MW2 for the worst level in the game?

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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

The single player was a blast from start to finish but the story was super weak and very short ... KZ2s was much better, however the MP is extremely addictive BUT campers are really killing it for me.

Me and a bunch of Socom buddies played last night and anytime we got a nice lead on the other team they would resort to camping which in turned lead to us losing the match .... so annoying.

Cold blooded Perk plus silencer and your all fine and dandy. If you throw in ninja then theres basically no seeing you. Plus these seems to become a greater advantage the more advanced folks are. You just become fixiated on that radar.... . OT: Bying a game for a level is ridiculous, everyone here knows it as do you. It seems more likely that you would have have started this thread on such a weak basis as an attempt to express your love for this game and hate for others...
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#57 NoRussian
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The single player was a blast from start to finish but the story was super weak and very short ... KZ2s was much better, however the MP is extremely addictive BUT campers are really killing it for me.

Me and a bunch of Socom buddies played last night and anytime we got a nice lead on the other team they would resort to camping which in turned lead to us losing the match .... so annoying.

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Yeah, campers are annoying, but what's even more frustrating is all these noobs running around with knives.
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[QUOTE="sxdx89"]

[QUOTE="NoRussian"] So, what could possibly compare to Spec Ops? Gears of War's Horde? :lol:NoRussian

Spec Ops isn't that great. Many of them seem to just be slightly tweaked parts from the campaign. Now I haven't finished all of them but most of the ones I've played are like that.

And Horde is great, albiet different from Spec Ops.

Horde is terrible, compared to Spec Ops. Ugly, boring and full of glitches.

Agreed but survival mode in Left 4 dead and Uncharted 2 were much better then spec ops imo. Spec ops had some excellent scenarios, but it had a little to much copy and pasting, it really seemed like an after though. They could have been much more creative, so hopefully with some DLC they will throw in some really nice spec op missions.

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#59 NoRussian
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[QUOTE="NoRussian"][QUOTE="sxdx89"]

Spec Ops isn't that great. Many of them seem to just be slightly tweaked parts from the campaign. Now I haven't finished all of them but most of the ones I've played are like that.

And Horde is great, albiet different from Spec Ops.

Sully28

Horde is terrible, compared to Spec Ops. Ugly, boring and full of glitches.

Agreed but survival mode in Left 4 dead and Uncharted 2 were much better then spec ops imo. Spec ops had some excellent scenarios, but it had a little to much copy and pasting, it really seemed like an after though. They could have been much more creative, so hopefully with some DLC they will throw in some really nice spec op missions.

I think Spec Ops is definitely better than Left 4 Dead, even if Valve really succeeded in making a good survival game with that one. And I haven't played Uncharted, but I doubt Naughty Dog can match the excellence provided by IW. :P
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#60 SaudiFury
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I got the game for single player and spec ops. more then anything else.

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#61 NoRussian
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[QUOTE="alextherussian"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

The single player was a blast from start to finish but the story was super weak and very short ... KZ2s was much better, however the MP is extremely addictive BUT campers are really killing it for me.

Me and a bunch of Socom buddies played last night and anytime we got a nice lead on the other team they would resort to camping which in turned lead to us losing the match .... so annoying.

Cold blooded Perk plus silencer and your all fine and dandy. If you throw in ninja then theres basically no seeing you. Plus these seems to become a greater advantage the more advanced folks are. You just become fixiated on that radar.... . OT: Bying a game for a level is ridiculous, everyone here knows it as do you. It seems more likely that you would have have started this thread on such a weak basis as an attempt to express your love for this game and hate for others...

Wow, your post underperforms. I know some people that also got this game for this mission (especially). :) And I don't really hate other games. I just think MW2 has raised the bar so much, that it has basically disabled all other games.
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#62 Matt_1337
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[QUOTE="amareen18"]U mean u bought it bcause u want to kill russians!?NoRussian
I thought he sead "no russian"?

He says "Remember, no Russian" I think he means it as "Don't speak any Russian." So it looks like it was done by non-Russians.

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#63 SaudiFury
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[QUOTE="NoRussian"][QUOTE="amareen18"]U mean u bought it bcause u want to kill russians!?Matt_1337

I thought he sead "no russian"?

He says "Remember, no Russian" I think he means it as "Don't speak any Russian." So it looks like it was done by non-Russians.

basically that whole level is the lynch pin for the entire game.
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#64 mo0ksi
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It wasn't that special. It just became the usual CoD gameplay by the second half of the level.
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#65 NoRussian
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[QUOTE="NoRussian"][QUOTE="amareen18"]U mean u bought it bcause u want to kill russians!?Matt_1337

I thought he sead "no russian"?

He says "Remember, no Russian" I think he means it as "Don't speak any Russian." So it looks like it was done by non-Russians.

It could be, since he doesn't speak it during the massacre. He speaks English, instead. :P
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#66 NoRussian
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Yeah, you're presumably right, since this is from the CoD wiki: " * Makarov says "No Russian", so nobody will know that they are actually Russian (by speaking it), not Americans. The authorities would find Allen's dead American body, assume they were all Americans, and wage war on the U.S. "
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#67 SaudiFury
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[QUOTE="NoRussian"]Yeah, you're presumably right, since this is from the CoD wiki: " * Makarov says "No Russian", so nobody will know that they are actually Russian (by speaking it), not Americans. The authorities would find Allen's dead American body, assume they were all Americans, and wage war on the U.S. "

but see the thing is, we all know the US's CIA and Russian intelligence are always exchanging information back and forth. I believe the US could of comprehensively explained the Russian's what was going on, and what just happened. but then again America needed more proof and that was the second campaign, which was trying to clear America's name. still i'd imagine the US would of put up their defenses and buy themselves enough time to prove to the Russians what was going on. eh...but if that was the case, we wouldn't have a game.
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No Russian is probably one of the best plot twists of all time... I put it up there w/ KOTOR. Overall the campaign was really hit or miss on every mission. Some parts I loved, and others I loathed.

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Nothing about MW2's touches KOTOR's story
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[QUOTE="NoRussian"][QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="NoRussian"] Horde is terrible, compared to Spec Ops. Ugly, boring and full of glitches.

mate the timesplitters challenges were better than spec opps...

Never played it, but have a hard time believeing it. :)

Well unlike Spec Ops mode, Timesplitter's challengers were all unique instead of being ripped straight from the campaign :)
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Amazing, Now gamers turn soft. It's a Godamn game, Killing those civilians won't hurt anyone,I personally had no problem, Kinda enjoyed it(Not because killing Russians, I like Russians, Because the "Badass Thug Feeling" :|. And as most of you said,"Unnecessary" That is why you can skip it, instead of Crying how its "Violent and Unethical. As much as this might surprise you, And I'm pretty sure it will. Most people don't care if they are killing imaginary civilians, I sure don't.
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[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="NoRussian"] Horde is terrible, compared to Spec Ops. Ugly, boring and full of glitches.NoRussian
mate the timesplitters challenges were better than spec opps...

Never played it, but have a hard time believeing it. :)

play it. its the best competitive shooter ever.
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No Russian testament to Iward's poor job at establishing a powerful, meaningful narrative in a game. That's about it really. Such wasted potential.
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#73 XxSTILL_BORNxX
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That level sure was good but, the single player as a whole for me is excellent. Much better then the MP i must say, full of campers and many what the hell is going on moments. Special ops and the single player is excellent but overall, the SP really surprised me. I enjoyed it way more then i expected and it had great twists.
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Seemed like a very pointless level to me. All that major scripting could have been spent on other levels to tie the story together better.

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[QUOTE="NoRussian"][QUOTE="Birdy09"] mate the timesplitters challenges were better than spec opps...toast_burner
Never played it, but have a hard time believeing it. :)

play it. its the best competitive shooter ever.

What makes it the best competitive shooter? how noob friendly it is? :roll: that screams competitive right there. the only console shooter i have played so far that really shows the skilled from the non skilled is Killzone 2 suprisingly =/
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Seemed like a very pointless level to me. All that major scripting could have been spent on other levels to tie the story together better.

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I think most of you miss the point of that level.... well if you can consider it a level, most of the games elements are interactive... trying to imerse you as much as possible, wether it was an easy level or not, IT IMMERSED me more than a pathetic cutscene ever would... cutscenes are the bain of interactivity and an outdated feature in gaming. mayaswell watch a movie.
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

Seemed like a very pointless level to me. All that major scripting could have been spent on other levels to tie the story together better.

Birdy09

I think most of you miss the point of that level.... well if you can consider it a level, most of the games elements are interactive... trying to imerse you as much as possible, wether it was an easy level or not, IT IMMERSED me more than a pathetic cutscene ever would... cutscenes are the bain of interactivity and an outdated feature in gaming. mayaswell watch a movie.

When involving the player there should be intelligent narrative, using gameplay systems to drive it. No Russian isn't intelligent, nor is it thoughtfully done.

The only immersion that comes from it putting the player there, its essentially an interactive cut scene. It is unnecessary, if it was particularly well done and not so flawed I would say otherwise. Cheap immersion, but hell, thats what COD since the 4th has always been about.

Taking an action scene and propping it in the first person perspective to create immersion.

The player interaction is so meaningless and limit that its as interactive as a film like REC. or even Cloverfield. Hell as you put it to describe a cutscene, in these instances you 'may as well be watching a movie' too...

But aye, even so there is a kick to be had out of it.

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[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]

No Russian is probably one of the best plot twists of all time... I put it up there w/ KOTOR. Overall the campaign was really hit or miss on every mission. Some parts I loved, and others I loathed.

Juggernaut140
Nothing about MW2's touches KOTOR's story

One's a FPS, other is an RPG. They aren't comparable.
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[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="NoRussian"][QUOTE="Birdy09"] mate the timesplitters challenges were better than spec opps...

Never played it, but have a hard time believeing it. :)

Well unlike Spec Ops mode, Timesplitter's challengers were all unique instead of being ripped straight from the campaign :)

And Timesplitter has an own, unique campaign?
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[QUOTE="NoRussian"][QUOTE="alextherussian"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

The single player was a blast from start to finish but the story was super weak and very short ... KZ2s was much better, however the MP is extremely addictive BUT campers are really killing it for me.

Me and a bunch of Socom buddies played last night and anytime we got a nice lead on the other team they would resort to camping which in turned lead to us losing the match .... so annoying.

Cold blooded Perk plus silencer and your all fine and dandy. If you throw in ninja then theres basically no seeing you. Plus these seems to become a greater advantage the more advanced folks are. You just become fixiated on that radar.... . OT: Bying a game for a level is ridiculous, everyone here knows it as do you. It seems more likely that you would have have started this thread on such a weak basis as an attempt to express your love for this game and hate for others...

Wow, your post underperforms. I know some people that also got this game for this mission (especially). :) And I don't really hate other games. I just think MW2 has raised the bar so much, that it has basically disabled all other games.

So it under performs, yet you do exactly what I said you would? Probably that would basically be me calling it.... In terms of buying a game for a level then props to you for having the money lying around to make a purchase justified in such a manner. I'm gonna go on a limb and guess that you probably don't have to worry about paying for rent, food or are old enough (probably by any countries legal standards) to worry about money spent on alcohol....
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Seemed like a very pointless level to me. All that major scripting could have been spent on other levels to tie the story together better.

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Never got the sense that there was much story to tie together....
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#82 NoRussian
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

Seemed like a very pointless level to me. All that major scripting could have been spent on other levels to tie the story together better.

alextherussian
Never got the sense that there was much story to tie together....

The plot could have been better, yeah. But IW concentrated on Spec Ops and the MP. And No Russian was very vital to the story. Without that level, you wouldn't be able to play the rest of the campaign. Or you would - but you wouldn't get anything.
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#83 NoRussian
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[QUOTE="alextherussian"][QUOTE="NoRussian"][QUOTE="alextherussian"] Cold blooded Perk plus silencer and your all fine and dandy. If you throw in ninja then theres basically no seeing you. Plus these seems to become a greater advantage the more advanced folks are. You just become fixiated on that radar.... . OT: Bying a game for a level is ridiculous, everyone here knows it as do you. It seems more likely that you would have have started this thread on such a weak basis as an attempt to express your love for this game and hate for others...

Wow, your post underperforms. I know some people that also got this game for this mission (especially). :) And I don't really hate other games. I just think MW2 has raised the bar so much, that it has basically disabled all other games.

So it under performs, yet you do exactly what I said you would? Probably that would basically be me calling it.... In terms of buying a game for a level then props to you for having the money lying around to make a purchase justified in such a manner. I'm gonna go on a limb and guess that you probably don't have to worry about paying for rent, food or are old enough (probably by any countries legal standards) to worry about money spent on alcohol....

The game has been a masterpiece, so I don't regret buying it. :)
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#84 alextherussian
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[QUOTE="NoRussian"][QUOTE="alextherussian"][QUOTE="NoRussian"] Wow, your post underperforms. I know some people that also got this game for this mission (especially). :) And I don't really hate other games. I just think MW2 has raised the bar so much, that it has basically disabled all other games.

So it under performs, yet you do exactly what I said you would? Probably that would basically be me calling it.... In terms of buying a game for a level then props to you for having the money lying around to make a purchase justified in such a manner. I'm gonna go on a limb and guess that you probably don't have to worry about paying for rent, food or are old enough (probably by any countries legal standards) to worry about money spent on alcohol....

The game has been a masterpiece, so I don't regret buying it. :)

Fair enough, I can agree at least that I dont regret the purchase....MP is very good.
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#85 NoRussian
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[QUOTE="alextherussian"][QUOTE="NoRussian"][QUOTE="alextherussian"] So it under performs, yet you do exactly what I said you would? Probably that would basically be me calling it.... In terms of buying a game for a level then props to you for having the money lying around to make a purchase justified in such a manner. I'm gonna go on a limb and guess that you probably don't have to worry about paying for rent, food or are old enough (probably by any countries legal standards) to worry about money spent on alcohol....

The game has been a masterpiece, so I don't regret buying it. :)

Fair enough, I can agree at least that I dont regret the purchase....MP is very good.

But the best thing about it is Spec Ops. MP is full of campers and knife whores. 1. Spec Ops 2. No russian (probably the most important level ever) 3. MP :)
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I thought the campaign was mediorce and that No Russian was in bad taste.

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Really TC, I hated the No Russian level. I live in India, I saw the horror of the Mumbai attacks myself, and I found the level in suchbad taste. It forcibly brought back images from the Mumbai attack back to the forefront. I really hope gamemakers can learn to be a bit more sensitive henceforth.
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No Russian testament to Iward's poor job at establishing a powerful, meaningful narrative in a game. That's about it really. Such wasted potential. skrat_01

This.

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#89 NoRussian
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[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

Seemed like a very pointless level to me. All that major scripting could have been spent on other levels to tie the story together better.

skrat_01

I think most of you miss the point of that level.... well if you can consider it a level, most of the games elements are interactive... trying to imerse you as much as possible, wether it was an easy level or not, IT IMMERSED me more than a pathetic cutscene ever would... cutscenes are the bain of interactivity and an outdated feature in gaming. mayaswell watch a movie.

When involving the player there should be intelligent narrative, using gameplay systems to drive it. No Russian isn't intelligent, nor is it thoughtfully done.

The only immersion that comes from it putting the player there, its essentially an interactive cut scene. It is unnecessary, if it was particularly well done and not so flawed I would say otherwise. Cheap immersion, but hell, thats what COD since the 4th has always been about.

Taking an action scene and propping it in the first person perspective to create immersion.

The player interaction is so meaningless and limit that its as interactive as a film like REC. or even Cloverfield. Hell as you put it to describe a cutscene, in these instances you 'may as well be watching a movie' too...

But aye, even so there is a kick to be had out of it.

Fail. A cutscene would have been so normal and generic, that it would have become boring. It's a good thing it was playable now, showing how innovative IW is capable of being if they only want to and are ready to take risks. A cutscene would only result in you being less engrossed.
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#90 NoRussian
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Really TC, I hated the No Russian level. I live in India, I saw the horror of the Mumbai attacks myself, and I found the level in suchbad taste. It forcibly brought back images from the Mumbai attack back to the forefront. I really hope gamemakers can learn to be a bit more sensitive henceforth.charizard1605
It's just violence. It's been in games since... ...I don't know, but long time ago! And what do you mean "you saw the horror of the Mumbai attacks"?
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="NoRussian"] Never played it, but have a hard time believeing it. :)Birdy09
play it. its the best competitive shooter ever.

What makes it the best competitive shooter? how noob friendly it is? :roll: that screams competitive right there. the only console shooter i have played so far that really shows the skilled from the non skilled is Killzone 2 suprisingly =/

whats skill got to do with any thing?
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Really TC, I hated the No Russian level. I live in India, I saw the horror of the Mumbai attacks myself, and I found the level in suchbad taste. It forcibly brought back images from the Mumbai attack back to the forefront. I really hope gamemakers can learn to be a bit more sensitive henceforth.NoRussian
It's just violence. It's been in games since... ...I don't know, but long time ago! And what do you mean "you saw the horror of the Mumbai attacks"?

I mean I saw it. I don't care about violence much, in fact, I accept it should be there in video games sometimes because it can lend to the immersion of a game greatly. But the problem with the No Russian level was that it mirrored the Mimbai attacks. It was like the attacks had been transposed to a different setting, but for me, it was like playing through Mumbai attacks... AS THE TERRORIST. Now, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with you liking that level. I mean, it's obviously your own personal preference, and I repsect that, I won't try and impose myself on you. Just that I myself found it in VERY POOR TASTE.
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#93 NoRussian
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[QUOTE="NoRussian"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]Really TC, I hated the No Russian level. I live in India, I saw the horror of the Mumbai attacks myself, and I found the level in suchbad taste. It forcibly brought back images from the Mumbai attack back to the forefront. I really hope gamemakers can learn to be a bit more sensitive henceforth.charizard1605
It's just violence. It's been in games since... ...I don't know, but long time ago! And what do you mean "you saw the horror of the Mumbai attacks"?

I mean I saw it. I don't care about violence much, in fact, I accept it should be there in video games sometimes because it can lend to the immersion of a game greatly. But the problem with the No Russian level was that it mirrored the Mimbai attacks. It was like the attacks had been transposed to a different setting, but for me, it was like playing through Mumbai attacks... AS THE TERRORIST. Now, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with you liking that level. I mean, it's obviously your own personal preference, and I repsect that, I won't try and impose myself on you. Just that I myself found it in VERY POOR TASTE.

On TV? That's nice. :P And how do you know it "mirrored" the Mimbai attacks? Were there for example 5 attackers and did they enter through an elevator? I don't think so. Did the attacls even take place at an airport?
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[QUOTE="NoRussian"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="NoRussian"] It's just violence. It's been in games since... ...I don't know, but long time ago! And what do you mean "you saw the horror of the Mumbai attacks"?

I mean I saw it. I don't care about violence much, in fact, I accept it should be there in video games sometimes because it can lend to the immersion of a game greatly. But the problem with the No Russian level was that it mirrored the Mimbai attacks. It was like the attacks had been transposed to a different setting, but for me, it was like playing through Mumbai attacks... AS THE TERRORIST. Now, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with you liking that level. I mean, it's obviously your own personal preference, and I repsect that, I won't try and impose myself on you. Just that I myself found it in VERY POOR TASTE.

On TV? That's nice. :P And how do you know it "mirrored" the Mimbai attacks? Were there for example 5 attackers and did they enter through an elevator? I don't think so. Did the attacls even take place at an airport?

The attacks took place throughput the city, but one of the locations was a train station. And tell you what, let's just leave about the details... you know what? If you see the footage from the Mumbai attacks (I'm sure you have) and if you see the footage from the No Russian level, then you'll see what I mean. They are IDENTICAL. They MIRROR EACH OTHER. Not in the details, but in the way the things play out in both scenarios, you'll see it's one and the same thing. Tell you what, I don't really want to discuss this anymore. If you got my point, well and good. If you didn't, I'm sorry, I don't think I will be able to convince you. But for my part, I maintain, the level was done in poor taste, and I will hold on to that.
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#95 NoRussian
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="NoRussian"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] I mean I saw it. I don't care about violence much, in fact, I accept it should be there in video games sometimes because it can lend to the immersion of a game greatly. But the problem with the No Russian level was that it mirrored the Mimbai attacks. It was like the attacks had been transposed to a different setting, but for me, it was like playing through Mumbai attacks... AS THE TERRORIST. Now, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with you liking that level. I mean, it's obviously your own personal preference, and I repsect that, I won't try and impose myself on you. Just that I myself found it in VERY POOR TASTE.

On TV? That's nice. :P And how do you know it "mirrored" the Mimbai attacks? Were there for example 5 attackers and did they enter through an elevator? I don't think so. Did the attacls even take place at an airport?

The attacks took place throughput the city, but one of the locations was a train station. And tell you what, let's just leave about the details... you know what? If you see the footage from the Mumbai attacks (I'm sure you have) and if you see the footage from the No Russian level, then you'll see what I mean. They are IDENTICAL. They MIRROR EACH OTHER. Not in the details, but in the way the things play out in both scenarios, you'll see it's one and the same thing. Tell you what, I don't really want to discuss this anymore. If you got my point, well and good. If you didn't, I'm sorry, I don't think I will be able to convince you. But for my part, I maintain, the level was done in poor taste, and I will hold on to that.

OK, whatever. I assume you're a girly man. That's OK. ;) But the attacks did not take place at an airport, thus; it's not "mirrored", as you would like to put it.
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[QUOTE="NoRussian"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="NoRussian"] On TV? That's nice. :P And how do you know it "mirrored" the Mimbai attacks? Were there for example 5 attackers and did they enter through an elevator? I don't think so. Did the attacls even take place at an airport?

The attacks took place throughput the city, but one of the locations was a train station. And tell you what, let's just leave about the details... you know what? If you see the footage from the Mumbai attacks (I'm sure you have) and if you see the footage from the No Russian level, then you'll see what I mean. They are IDENTICAL. They MIRROR EACH OTHER. Not in the details, but in the way the things play out in both scenarios, you'll see it's one and the same thing. Tell you what, I don't really want to discuss this anymore. If you got my point, well and good. If you didn't, I'm sorry, I don't think I will be able to convince you. But for my part, I maintain, the level was done in poor taste, and I will hold on to that.

OK, whatever. I assume you're a girly man. That's OK. ;) But the attacks did not take place at an airport, thus; it's not "mirrored", as you would like to put it.

Hey there, no need to get personal, mate, ok? I don't like the level, so I don't like it. Simply because my preferences dont match yours doesnt mean I'm 'girly' or any other label you'd like to tag me with. And the attacks took place at a train station. If IW had made the level with a train station, then the game would have been outright banned in many places. The only reason they put it in an airport was to avoid more controversy than necessary.
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#97 NoRussian
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="NoRussian"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] The attacks took place throughput the city, but one of the locations was a train station. And tell you what, let's just leave about the details... you know what? If you see the footage from the Mumbai attacks (I'm sure you have) and if you see the footage from the No Russian level, then you'll see what I mean. They are IDENTICAL. They MIRROR EACH OTHER. Not in the details, but in the way the things play out in both scenarios, you'll see it's one and the same thing. Tell you what, I don't really want to discuss this anymore. If you got my point, well and good. If you didn't, I'm sorry, I don't think I will be able to convince you. But for my part, I maintain, the level was done in poor taste, and I will hold on to that.

OK, whatever. I assume you're a girly man. That's OK. ;) But the attacks did not take place at an airport, thus; it's not "mirrored", as you would like to put it.

Hey there, no need to get personal, mate, ok? I don't like the level, so I don't like it. Simply because my preferences dont match yours doesnt mean I'm 'girly' or any other label you'd like to tag me with. And the attacks took place at a train station. If IW had made the level with a train station, then the game would have been outright banned in many places. The only reason they put it in an airport was to avoid more controversy than necessary.

That's like saying 9/11 was like the airport scene, and that it should be banned in America. What was so identical to Mumbai, taking into account the places were entirely different?
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[QUOTE="NoRussian"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="NoRussian"] OK, whatever. I assume you're a girly man. That's OK. ;) But the attacks did not take place at an airport, thus; it's not "mirrored", as you would like to put it.

Hey there, no need to get personal, mate, ok? I don't like the level, so I don't like it. Simply because my preferences dont match yours doesnt mean I'm 'girly' or any other label you'd like to tag me with. And the attacks took place at a train station. If IW had made the level with a train station, then the game would have been outright banned in many places. The only reason they put it in an airport was to avoid more controversy than necessary.

That's like saying 9/11 was like the airport scene, and that it should be banned in America. What was so identical to Mumbai, taking into account the places were entirely different?

Really, we're going to discuss this further? Sigh, ok. Take any example you want, then. 9/11? Fine. Mumbai? Fine. London? Fine. I say Mumbai because Mumbai affected me the most, but if you want to use a different example, go ahead. My point is that the way the developers depicted terrorism in the level was in very bad taste, and they really should be careful in future, or they'll end up treading on some very important toes, more than they should have.
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Nah i just wanted to finish the campaign as soon as possible so i could go to online and start leveling up, as soon as i read u get no trophies out of it :P i skipped it. dont care i bought mw2 mainly to play online with friends

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And we can see why trophies and Achievements can have a negative impact on a game...
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[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="jrhawk42"]

No Russian is probably one of the best plot twists of all time... I put it up there w/ KOTOR. Overall the campaign was really hit or miss on every mission. Some parts I loved, and others I loathed.

Nothing about MW2's touches KOTOR's story

KOTOR **** CoD's story.