I don't see the magic of LIVE

How exactly is LIVE better than PSN

-Cross Game Chat: Cool but not worth 50$ a year

-Everyone Has a Headset: More annoying little kids calling eachother "Mexicans" and "Jews" (No Offense to Anyone)

-More Downloadable Games: As much as I'd like to play some of those Live Games such as Perfect Dark and whatnot it still isn't any better than PSOne and eventually PS2 (just speculation) classics.

-Priority With DLC: This doesn't really bother me cause I'm not a big fan of overpriced DLC

I'm not trying to be an Arrogant Cow, but will someone please explain to me how LIVE is better.

Two of your main complaints are that you hate communication and games?

Really?

The headset argument is one of the stupidest argument ever! i play online on PS3 every single day, rarly see anyone that dont use a headset.. anwyays just sayin.. anyways Xbox360 only has the Cross game chat and the party system which i would call great, other than that PSN and XBL are totally equal just one u need to pay for it. PSN is great :)

Well, for one thing, LIVE's interface mops the floor with PSN's and my downloads take a lot less time on LIVE. PSN is fine, but LIVE just has all these little things that I think justify the price tag.

Live is just popular and everyone knows that when something is popular its considered to the best even though there are equal and better services out there.

Back at the beginning of this gen, Live was miles ahead of PSN. As the PSN developed it gained a lot of the features that Live had, while still remaining free. Live is still better than PSN features wise, but the fact that they charge $50 a year for a service that is only "A little better" than its rival console that offers a free service and is still inferior to a free PC service doesn't say mcuh about it

Live is just popular and everyone knows that when something is popular its considered to the best even though there are equal and better services out there.

RTUUMM

Does someone else make a console besides Sony and Nintendo?

I don't see where you're seeing equal and better? Really?

Where?

Here we go again.

[QUOTE="RTUUMM"]

Live is just popular and everyone knows that when something is popular its considered to the best even though there are equal and better services out there.

Does someone else make a console besides Sony and Nintendo?

I don't see where you're seeing equal and better? Really?

Where?

[QUOTE="RTUUMM"]

Live is just popular and everyone knows that when something is popular its considered to the best even though there are equal and better services out there.

Jaysonguy

Does someone else make a console besides Sony and Nintendo?

I don't see where you're seeing equal and better? Really?

Where?

Must be steam! :O

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[QUOTE="RTUUMM"]

Live is just popular and everyone knows that when something is popular its considered to the best even though there are equal and better services out there.

RTUUMM

Does someone else make a console besides Sony and Nintendo?

I don't see where you're seeing equal and better? Really?

Where?

Nope, because PSN is not equal to Live in any shape or form and Steam? I didn't know that's for consoles now

Ummm you claim you play games yet two of you biggest complaints are games and communication??? Seriously??? Hope you don't play games like BFBC2 where you need teamwork. 93soccer

I'm a huge BF fan and I always use headsets, but I play with my friends and not random annoying kids

Cross-game chat is great. That is the one defining factor that keeps XBL ahead of PSN. Other then that, they are almost identical.

Also, the fact that you generalize over 25 million people as "little kids" is fairly amusing. And I suppose all of PSN is people with mics all in their 30's to40's, right? :roll:

but I'm not complaining about LIVE I'm asking is it really better?

but I'm not complaining about LIVE I'm asking is it really better?

davidkamayor

Short answer: Yes, it is.

Cross-game chat is great. That is the one defining factor that keeps XBL ahead of PSN. Other then that, they are almost identical.

Also, the fact that you generalize over 25 million people as "little kids" is fairly amusing. And I suppose all of PSN is people with mics all in their 30's to40's, right? :roll:

Puckhog04

no their loads of idiots they just hardly talk

but I'm not complaining about LIVE I'm asking is it really better?

davidkamayor

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

Cross-game chat is great. That is the one defining factor that keeps XBL ahead of PSN. Other then that, they are almost identical.

Also, the fact that you generalize over 25 million people as "little kids" is fairly amusing. And I suppose all of PSN is people with mics all in their 30's to40's, right? :roll:

davidkamayor

no their loads of idiots they just hardly talk

I talk with people all the time on PSN. I don't know what games you're playing but most people are using mics. Especially in games like BC2, Killzone 2, and shooters such as those.

Well, for one thing, LIVE's interface mops the floor with PSN's and my downloads take a lot less time on LIVE. PSN is fine, but LIVE just has all these little things that I think justify the price tag.

DarkLink77

XMB is superior to NXE, which is by far the weakest feature of XBL.

thats because you cant see magic, duhhhh

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[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

Cross-game chat is great. That is the one defining factor that keeps XBL ahead of PSN. Other then that, they are almost identical.

Also, the fact that you generalize over 25 million people as "little kids" is fairly amusing. And I suppose all of PSN is people with mics all in their 30's to40's, right? :roll:

Puckhog04

no their loads of idiots they just hardly talk

I talk with people all the time on PSN. I don't know what games you're playing but most people are using mics. Especially in games like BC2, Killzone 2, and shooters such as those.

Yesterday I played BC2 for 5 hours and didn't meet a single headset user usually when people are talking you just happen to join a squad with friends chatting

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Well, for one thing, LIVE's interface mops the floor with PSN's and my downloads take a lot less time on LIVE. PSN is fine, but LIVE just has all these little things that I think justify the price tag.

Gxgear

XMB is superior to NXE, which is by far the weakest feature of XBL.

[QUOTE="RTUUMM"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Does someone else make a console besides Sony and Nintendo?

I don't see where you're seeing equal and better? Really?

Where?

Nope, because PSN is not equal to Live in any shape or form and Steam? I didn't know that's for consoles now

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Well, for one thing, LIVE's interface mops the floor with PSN's and my downloads take a lot less time on LIVE. PSN is fine, but LIVE just has all these little things that I think justify the price tag.

DarkLink77

XMB is superior to NXE, which is by far the weakest feature of XBL.

Not when half the panels directs you to the marketplace to spend money (or rather, MS points), and the excessive scrolling it takes to get to some of the options or if you have a long friend's list. From a purely gaming standpoint, there's just too much clutter in NXE.

If you really think preference is the difference there, then your choice of words for the previous statement is pathetically poor.

it doesnt have magic. its just better. and it has alot more better arcade games.

[QUOTE="93soccer"]Ummm you claim you play games yet two of you biggest complaints are games and communication??? Seriously??? Hope you don't play games like BFBC2 where you need teamwork. davidkamayor

I'm a huge BF fan and I always use headsets, but I play with my friends and not random annoying kids

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Gxgear"]

XMB is superior to NXE, which is by far the weakest feature of XBL.

Not when half the panels directs you to the marketplace to spend money (or rather, MS points), and the excessive scrolling it takes to get to some of the options or if you have a long friend's list. From a purely gaming standpoint, there's just too much clutter in NXE.

If you really think preference is the difference there, then your choice of words for the previous statement is pathetically poor.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="RTUUMM"] PSN = Live Steam>> Live Do you understand now?RTUUMM

Nope, because PSN is not equal to Live in any shape or form and Steam? I didn't know that's for consoles now

No not at all

PSN doesn't offer what Live does

Even the basics for this generation like a demo service and fast downloads.

Also we're talking about consoles here so Steam doesn't belong

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I like NXE just fine... it connects you to everything right off the bat. But that's a preference thing.93soccer

Not when half the panels directs you to the marketplace to spend money (or rather, MS points), and the excessive scrolling it takes to get to some of the options or if you have a long friend's list. From a purely gaming standpoint, there's just too much clutter in NXE.

If you really think preference is the difference there, then your choice of words for the previous statement is pathetically poor.

How do the trigger and bumper buttons remove the needless advertisements?

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Gxgear"]

XMB is superior to NXE, which is by far the weakest feature of XBL.

Gxgear

Not when half the panels directs you to the marketplace to spend money (or rather, MS points), and the excessive scrolling it takes to get to some of the options or if you have a long friend's list. From a purely gaming standpoint, there's just too much clutter in NXE.

If you really think preference is the difference there, then your choice of words for the previous statement is pathetically poor.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I like NXE just fine... it connects you to everything right off the bat. But that's a preference thing.DarkLink77

Not when half the panels directs you to the marketplace to spend money (or rather, MS points), and the excessive scrolling it takes to get to some of the options or if you have a long friend's list. From a purely gaming standpoint, there's just too much clutter in NXE.

If you really think preference is the difference there, then your choice of words for the previous statement is pathetically poor.

Interface = NXE and XMB, not XBL and PSN. It is MUCH easier to navigate XMB, you're just more used to NXE which is where the preference came in.

Playing with friends?

I'm sure that's really the main reason why people would shell out 50$ per year for it.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Not when half the panels directs you to the marketplace to spend money (or rather, MS points), and the excessive scrolling it takes to get to some of the options or if you have a long friend's list. From a purely gaming standpoint, there's just too much clutter in NXE.

If you really think preference is the difference there, then your choice of words for the previous statement is pathetically poor.

Gxgear

Interface = NXE and XMB, not XBL and PSN. It is MUCH easier to navigate XMB, you're just more used to NXE which is where the preference came in.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Not really. My point was I like being connected, which is a preference thing. half of it being ads or not. The earlier points was referring to the fact that it's a lot easier to find stuff on LIVE than PSN, and the interface on LIVE is a bit cleaner.DarkLink77

Interface = NXE and XMB, not XBL and PSN. It is MUCH easier to navigate XMB, you're just more used to NXE which is where the preference came in.

That's all you needed to say, because everything after that just isn't true. NXE may have a lot of shortcut panels, but (again) a lot of them revolves aroud the marketplace and as someone who is more interested in playing games than shopping it's just incovenient.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Interface = NXE and XMB, not XBL and PSN. It is MUCH easier to navigate XMB, you're just more used to NXE which is where the preference came in.

Gxgear

That's all you needed to say, because everything after that just isn't true. NXE may have a lot of shortcut panels, but (again) a lot of them revolves aroud the marketplace and as someone who is more interested in playing games than shopping it's just incovenient.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Well, ease of use isn't something that can be objectively measured, tbh.

DarkLink77

That's all you needed to say, because everything after that just isn't true. NXE may have a lot of shortcut panels, but (again) a lot of them revolves aroud the marketplace and as someone who is more interested in playing games than shopping it's just incovenient.

Speaking from experience, none of those shortcut panels are useful to me. Every time you want to play a game you have to go through 2 panels to get there, and for music or video you have to navigate to the row of panels first, then go to the end of that row. Scrolling through Spotlight/My Community/Inside Xbox is probably my least favourite thing to do on my 360 yet I have to do it every time to go to friend list. With XMB your music/video files and games are instantly accessible from the root menu.

Xbox Live is a Scam. $50 to play online for what a year? and they call that a deal?

The PS3 is a deal considering it's FREE. and if Sony starts paying I'll go on Steam.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Gxgear"]

That's all you needed to say, because everything after that just isn't true. NXE may have a lot of shortcut panels, but (again) a lot of them revolves aroud the marketplace and as someone who is more interested in playing games than shopping it's just incovenient.

Gxgear

Speaking from experience, none of those shortcut panels are useful to me. Every time you want to play a game you have to go through 2 panels to get there, and for music or video you have to navigate to the row of panels first, then go to the end of that row. Scrolling through Spotlight/My Community/Inside Xbox is probably my least favourite thing to do on my 360 yet I have to do it every time to go to friend list. With XMB your music/video files and games are instantly accessible from the root menu.

I like their party system that's functional at the OS level. No need to fire up a separate app to use something like it. With the party system comes party chat and game launching.

I use the fully functional cross-game invite system all the time. It works no matter what anyone is doing and works consistently in ALL games.

And I like that XBL has a better sense of community. There are events like gaming with devs and the community playdate. There are very active community managers that are more than PR people. They help organize members and moderate the system across the board. Not only that, they're very vocal. We only need to go back and look at how each handled the MW2 glitches. One did something in the best interest of the gamers while the other said they didn't intend on doing anything. One is an example of server. The other is the absence of one. MS staff is very visible and vocal and interact directly with the end users.

They continually work with various parent groups and special interest groups to educate and address their concerns with the realities of online gaming.

These aren't things you'll find on some bulletpointed feature list. They're just part of the package that people apparently take for granted.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] How is everything else after that not true? You just said NXE has more shortcuts, which is basically what I said, hence XMB being more compartmentalized.DarkLink77

Speaking from experience, none of those shortcut panels are useful to me. Every time you want to play a game you have to go through 2 panels to get there, and for music or video you have to navigate to the row of panels first, then go to the end of that row. Scrolling through Spotlight/My Community/Inside Xbox is probably my least favourite thing to do on my 360 yet I have to do it every time to go to friend list. With XMB your music/video files and games are instantly accessible from the root menu.

That's just MS doing a better job at selling you stuff, and yes they're definitely great at it.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Speaking from experience, none of those shortcut panels are useful to me. Every time you want to play a game you have to go through 2 panels to get there, and for music or video you have to navigate to the row of panels first, then go to the end of that row. Scrolling through Spotlight/My Community/Inside Xbox is probably my least favourite thing to do on my 360 yet I have to do it every time to go to friend list. With XMB your music/video files and games are instantly accessible from the root menu.

Gxgear

That's just MS doing a better job at selling you stuff, and yes they're definitely great at it.

I personally think it's a more streamlined service. It certainly isn't perfect, but it's better than PSN (in my opinion of course).

I think xbl interface is much better then PSN not only that but its much easier to gain xbl friends then to gain psn friends and to top it off its much easier I find to talk on xbl aswell.. For a free psn does a very good job of what it does but paying for xbl, xbl is very good at what it does and it gets the job done nicely.