I find art in Crysis and Geow, not okami or SOTC

I like things really realistic or reallly hi res.

Does this make me an unsophisticated barbarian? No.

I just don't see whats so artistic about games like Okami. If you ask me its just laziness on the devs part. Imagine Okami in hi res textured detail. It would be awesome

I find your comment on barbarians very untrue...

Perhaps you should document yourself before you post.

No, just no. :| If you can't see the artwork in Okami then I don't even know where to begin with you. I guess you must think cutting edge realistic graphics that mimic real life is art, and not someone who took the time to come up with a unique visual style. Would Mario games be as attractive if Mario looked like a real fat italian plumber? No.....

To say the devs who made Okami were just being lazy is a bold statment. So because they didn't want to add fur shaders and normal mapping in their game, they're just lazy? You can't respect their choice? Did you even play the game? The artstyle completely matches the game since you use can freeze time and use a PAINTBRUSH to attack enemies and do other things. Here's a video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=aOT95HPv51E

Now tell me, how would adding realistic graphics make this game play better, or better yet how would it fit the theme?

Good art styles and good stylization aren't mutually exclusive.

And I swear to God, the first person to try and tell me that you can't critisize something because "its art" is going to get their legs broken.

I like things really realistic or reallly hi res.

Does this make me an unsophisticated barbarian? No.

I just don't see whats so artistic about games like Okami. If you ask me its just laziness on the devs part. Imagine Okami in hi res textured detail. It would be awesome

familycircusfan

No, just no. :| If you can't see the artwork in Okami then I don't even know where to begin with you. I guess you must think cutting edge realistic graphics that mimic real life is art, and not someone who took the time to come up with a unique visual style. Would Mario games be as attractive if Mario looked like a real fat italian plumber? No.....

To say the devs who made Okami were just being lazy is a bold statment. So because they didn't want to add fur shaders and normal mapping in their game, they're just lazy? You can't respect their choice? Did you even play the game? The artstyle completely matches the game since you use can freeze time and use a PAINTBRUSH to attack enemies and do other things. Here's a video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=aOT95HPv51E

Now tell me, how would adding realistic graphics make this game play better, or better yet how would it fit the theme?

karasill

ok first off, i never insulted the gameplay of okami.

Second you mention mario, and its been proven that marios mustache, hat and suspenders were all made because it was easier to animate then a full face so self ownage. It doesnt really take that much creativity to think of the style in okami mkay, cellshading has been around for a while

[QUOTE="familycircusfan"]

I like things really realistic or reallly hi res.

Does this make me an unsophisticated barbarian? No.

I just don't see whats so artistic about games like Okami. If you ask me its just laziness on the devs part. Imagine Okami in hi res textured detail. It would be awesome

nervmeister

I was saying the laziness thing about okami, sotc was technically impressive, but it just didn't do it for me the out of focus monsters in the distance thing...

I like things really realistic or reallly hi res.

Does this make me an unsophisticated barbarian? No.

I just don't see whats so artistic about games like Okami. If you ask me its just laziness on the devs part. Imagine Okami in hi res textured detail. It would be awesome

familycircusfan

Some people look at Picaso's work and call it amazing. I look at it and say it's crap. Does this mean I'm a barbarian? No. Just means I have a different taste in art from those that like Picaso just like have a different taste in art from the people who, like me, like Okami's art.

Contrary to popular belief, there is art in Crysis.

Each to their own of course.

I usually prefer 'artistic' visuals in games mainly because few games nowadays deliberately disband the idea of 'realistic' graphics and so seeing worlds that look highly stylised is a breath of fresh air to me.

Just don't call the Okami devs lazy...

I was saying the laziness thing about okami, sotc was technically impressive, but it just didn't do it for me the out of focus monsters in the distance thing...

familycircusfan

[QUOTE="karasill"]

No, just no. :| If you can't see the artwork in Okami then I don't even know where to begin with you. I guess you must think cutting edge realistic graphics that mimic real life is art, and not someone who took the time to come up with a unique visual style. Would Mario games be as attractive if Mario looked like a real fat italian plumber? No.....

To say the devs who made Okami were just being lazy is a bold statment. So because they didn't want to add fur shaders and normal mapping in their game, they're just lazy? You can't respect their choice? Did you even play the game? The artstyle completely matches the game since you use can freeze time and use a PAINTBRUSH to attack enemies and do other things. Here's a video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=aOT95HPv51E

Now tell me, how would adding realistic graphics make this game play better, or better yet how would it fit the theme?

familycircusfan

ok first off, i never insulted the gameplay of okami.

Second you mention mario, and its been proven that marios mustache, hat and suspenders were all made because it was easier to animate then a full face so self ownage. It doesnt really take that much creativity to think of the style in okami mkay, cellshading has been around for a while

Okami's visual design is based off of old Japanese art. Jet Set Radio Future and the Wind Waker both use cell shading yet they don't look like Okami, let alone Japense art. It's sad that you can't look beyond the cell shaded textures and see the true artwork behind some of these games.

TC I think you need to learn more about difference between art and technology........
Foxhound_spy

Art is not about photo-realismair_wolf_cubed

It can be.

[QUOTE="Foxhound_spy"]TC I think you need to learn more about difference between art and technology........
karasill

art can be anything, from scribbles to a realistic face, saying those games are not art is BS,

Would you call this not art because it's not "realistic"?

And crysis and gears are pretty far from realism being fictional sci-fi tales of fantasy.

[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="Foxhound_spy"]TC I think you need to learn more about difference between art and technology........
Blood_Bampyre

art can be anything, from scribbles to a realistic face, saying those games are not art is BS,

Would you call this not art because it's not "realistic"?

And crysis and gears are pretty far from realism being fictional sci-fi tales of fantasy.

goblaa

I'm not being mean, and don't mean to criticize, but do you have any idea how redundant the last part of that sentence is? ;)

look at the high rez corpse! looks almost so real that you can literally almost poke it with a stick!

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

And crysis and gears are pretty far from realism being fictional sci-fi tales of fantasy.

MyzeDivine

I'm not being mean, and don't mean to criticize, but do you have any idea how redundant the last part of that sentence is? ;)

Yeah, just trying to get the point across.

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goblaa

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goblaa

Art is not about photo-realismair_wolf_cubed

Andy Warhol disagrees

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

As such, the perception of art is in the eye of the person perceiving it.

You guys seriously have to stop posting that "realistic Mario" picture. It really is the stuff of nightmares. Please stop posting it, anywhere, ever. Thanks.Zeliard9

i no, i guess another sleepless night due to mario the last time was when i got SMG,

PS, Cool ass sig

It's called nerd art, where beauty is appreciated by the number of polygons in a object rather than the big picture. hiphops_savior

nerd art or not its still art

Did you just say you didn't find art in Shadow of the Colossus?

You sir must be blind, and I refuse to continue the conversation until you recognize SOTC as the brilliant work of art it is.

Sorry, but I would hate to see Super Mario Galaxy, LoZ Wind Waker, or Killer 7 in technical graphics. It would kill the entire atmosphere of each game.mo0ksi

Well, depends what you mean by that.

Nobody can tell me that Super Mario Galaxy wouldn't have been even more amazing-looking in HD. And going to HD, which would be increasing the resolution, is a pure technical upgrade.

Technical and artistic graphics aren't mutually exclusive. They can work in tandem. Galaxy looks much better than Mario 64, and a lot of that has to do with various technical upgrades, especially the lighting.

[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"]It's called nerd art, where beauty is appreciated by the number of polygons in a object rather than the big picture. Blood_Bampyre

nerd art or not its still art

maybe, but what would you prefer, the Statue of David or some Picasso disaster?

remember that Simpsons episode where Homer's mess of a BBQ he made short work on became a international hit?

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]Sorry, but I would hate to see Super Mario Galaxy, LoZ Wind Waker, or Killer 7 in technical graphics. It would kill the entire atmosphere of each game.Zeliard9

Well, depends what you mean by that.

Nobody can tell me that Super Mario Galaxy wouldn't have been even more amazing-looking in HD. And going to HD, which would be increasing the resolution, is a pure technical upgrade.

Technical and artistic graphics aren't mutually exclusive. They can work in tandem. Galaxy looks much better than Mario 64, and a lot of that has to do with various technical upgrades, especially the lighting.

If that isn't art, I don't know what is.

24 Explosive Barrels, 8 packs of plastic explosive and a tire, all in such perfect harmony. :cry: