I just want to dispel the rumour the KZ2 online is dead.

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#151 iDefineInfinity
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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"][QUOTE="iDefineInfinity"][QUOTE="Hahadouken"]It's only a rumor on System Wars, you know, the same place that has been swearing up and down Sony is going to pull out of the console race and admit defeat... since 2006. SW predictions make Michael Pachter look like a genius/Nostradamus by comparison.

Is it truly only a rumour? So, in other words, you are stating that Killzone 2 is a highly actively played multiplayer game these days, in the same league as Call of Duty and Halo?

Do you mean "in other words", or "in completely different words"? Because that isn't what I said. Why pick the most extreme examples of a multiplayer game "having a community", like Halo and COD and compare them to that. Did Killzone 2 sell 14 million copies? KZ2 is not dead, Unreal Tournament 3 is dead. That's the difference. Far Cry 2 is dead. The Darkness is dead.

In a way, you're right. But after everyone was hyping the game to death prior to launch, exclaiming it as "the true Halo killer", you can't say you're really surprised to see these comparisons. Also, the Far Cry 2 hype was microscopic compared to Killzone 2's.
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#152 gaming25
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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"][QUOTE="iDefineInfinity"] Is it truly only a rumour? So, in other words, you are stating that Killzone 2 is a highly actively played multiplayer game these days, in the same league as Call of Duty and Halo?iDefineInfinity
Do you mean "in other words", or "in completely different words"? Because that isn't what I said. Why pick the most extreme examples of a multiplayer game "having a community", like Halo and COD and compare them to that. Did Killzone 2 sell 14 million copies? KZ2 is not dead, Unreal Tournament 3 is dead. That's the difference. Far Cry 2 is dead. The Darkness is dead.

In a way, you're right. But after everyone was hyping the game to death prior to launch, exclaiming it as "the true Halo killer", you can't say you're really surprised to see these comparisons. Also, the Far Cry 2 hype was microscopic compared to Killzone 2's.

By what, online hype??? Online hype does not equal real life hype.
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#153 gaming25
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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="iDefineInfinity"] If it even hit those numbers...MFDOOM1983

1st of all it only sold a little bit over a million copies. And secondly, it isnt "terrible numbers" considering the abundance of exclusives and other games that PS3 gamers have been able to play over the last year. Also, stop comparing it to the greatest selling FPSs of all time (Halo and COD). It hasnt even been a known franchise long enough to even have those kind of numbers.

it sold a million + by april 16th 2009;)

But you all are comparing it to games that have sold at least 5 times as many copies.
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#154 iDefineInfinity
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[QUOTE="iDefineInfinity"][QUOTE="Hahadouken"] Do you mean "in other words", or "in completely different words"? Because that isn't what I said. Why pick the most extreme examples of a multiplayer game "having a community", like Halo and COD and compare them to that. Did Killzone 2 sell 14 million copies? KZ2 is not dead, Unreal Tournament 3 is dead. That's the difference. Far Cry 2 is dead. The Darkness is dead.gaming25
In a way, you're right. But after everyone was hyping the game to death prior to launch, exclaiming it as "the true Halo killer", you can't say you're really surprised to see these comparisons. Also, the Far Cry 2 hype was microscopic compared to Killzone 2's.

By what, online hype??? Online hype does not equal real life hype.

Um, just "hype", OK? Let's just say that it was a lot more sought-after, and that the expectations were a lot bigger.
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#155 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"] 1st of all it only sold a little bit over a million copies. And secondly, it isnt "terrible numbers" considering the abundance of exclusives and other games that PS3 gamers have been able to play over the last year. Also, stop comparing it to the greatest selling FPSs of all time (Halo and COD). It hasnt even been a known franchise long enough to even have those kind of numbers.gaming25

it sold a million + by april 16th 2009;)

But you all are comparing it to games that have sold at least 5 times as many copies.

gears 2 which came out 6 months before and suffered from a botched mp launch has more unique players playing currently.
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#156 gaming25
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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] it sold a million + by april 16th 2009;)

MFDOOM1983

But you all are comparing it to games that have sold at least 5 times as many copies.

gears 2 which came out 6 months before and suffered from a botched mp launch has more unique players playing currently.

But we all know how garbage the MP for Gears 2 is so doesnt that defeat the purpose of what you just said???

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#157 Jamanjigeoff
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For an apparent "AAA" title having such a small amount of players is kind of sad. Halo had over 500,000 yesterday.

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#159 iDefineInfinity
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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] it sold a million + by april 16th 2009;)

MFDOOM1983
But you all are comparing it to games that have sold at least 5 times as many copies.

gears 2 which came out 6 months before and suffered from a botched mp launch has more unique players playing currently.

Which is very sad, taking into account that Gears of War 2 is very, very poor online compared to Halo and Call of Duty... We also must not forget that Gears of War is a newer series than Killzone.
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#160 iDefineInfinity
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="gaming25"] But you all are comparing it to games that have sold at least 5 times as many copies.gaming25

gears 2 which came out 6 months before and suffered from a botched mp launch has more unique players playing currently.

But we all know how garbage the MP for Gears 2 is so doesnt that defeat the purpose of what you just said???

Truly pathetic witnessing this "garbage" outdoing your mighty Killzone 2 in terms of unique players at the moment, despite the fact that Gears of War 2 is older, and the series debuted this generation, unlike Killzone.
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#161 gaming25
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"]

gears 2 which came out 6 months before and suffered from a botched mp launch has more unique players playing currently.MFDOOM1983

But we all know how garbage the MP for Gears 2 is so doesnt that defeatthe purpose of what you just said???

Your fanboy ignorance is showing.;)

You can wink all you want but you havent proven anything.
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#162 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"]

But we all know how garbage the MP for Gears 2 is so doesnt that defeatthe purpose of what you just said???

gaming25

Your fanboy ignorance is showing.;)

You can wink all you want but you havent proven anything.

Kinda hard to discredit your opinion. :|

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#163 gaming25
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] Your fanboy ignorance is showing.;)

You can wink all you want but you havent proven anything.

Kinda hard to discredit your opinion. :|

About what??? Sales? How can you "discredit" that?
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#164 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"] You can wink all you want but you havent proven anything.gaming25

Kinda hard to discredit your opinion. :|

About what??? Sales? How can you "discredit" that?

"But we all know how garbage the MP for Gears 2" this. So garbge that more people play it compared to kz2.;)

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#165 gaming25
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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] Kinda hard to discredit your opinion. :|

MFDOOM1983

About what??? Sales? How can you "discredit" that?

"But we all know how garbage the MP for Gears 2" this. So garbge that more people play it compared to kz2.;)

You just said Gears 2 MP was garbage a few posts ago!!!!!!!!!

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#166 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"] About what??? Sales? How can you "discredit" that?gaming25

"But we all know how garbage the MP for Gears 2" this. So garbge that more people play it compared to kz2.;)

You just said Gears 2 MP was garbage a few posts ago!!!!!!!!!

I said that the mp was botched at launch.:?

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#167 gaming25
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[QUOTE="gaming25"]

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] "But we all know how garbage the MP for Gears 2" this. So garbge that more people play it compared to kz2.;)

MFDOOM1983

You just said Gears 2 MP was garbage a few posts ago!!!!!!!!!

I said that the mp was botched at launch.:?

But cmon, we all know the problems that Gears 2 MP has.

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#168 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"]

You just said Gears 2 MP was garbage a few posts ago!!!!!!!!!

gaming25

I said that the mp was botched at launch.:?

But cmon, we all know the problems that Gears 2 MP has.

Had you mean. gears 2 was perfectly playable in early 2009.
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#169 gaming25
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="gaming25"]

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] I said that the mp was botched at launch.:?

But cmon, we all know the problems that Gears 2 MP has.

Had you mean. gears 2 was perfectly playable in early 2009.

lol. ANYWAY, the game KZ2 is great according to user scores/metacritic. And I love it so it doesnt matter anyway. 10k is good enough to find a good game and play. I dont know what point you are trying to make at all.
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="gaming25"] But cmon, we all know the problems that Gears 2 MP has.

gaming25

Had you mean. gears 2 was perfectly playable in early 2009.

lol. ANYWAY, the game KZ2 is great according to user scores/metacritic. And I love it so it doesnt matter anyway. 10k is good enough to find a good game and play. I dont know what point you are trying to make at all.

Review scores are irrelevant when talking about multiplayer games. A few thousand hardcore kz2 fans isn't going to change the fact that its community is pretty much dead.

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#171 gaming25
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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] Had you mean. gears 2 was perfectly playable in early 2009.MFDOOM1983

lol. ANYWAY, the game KZ2 is great according to user scores/metacritic. And I love it so it doesnt matter anyway. 10k is good enough to find a good game and play. I dont know what point you are trying to make at all.

Review scores are irrelevant when talking about multiplayer games. A few thousand hardcore kz2 fans isn't going to change the fact that its community is pretty much dead.

There are over 10 thousand people on it. How does that say "dead"????
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#172 WardCleaver02
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I got online last night after not playing KZ2 online in around 6 months. Granted, I have not purchased any of the new maps, but picken's were slim for available games.

I wanted to do the game type where it cycles through the modes, but there weren't any available. I finally got into a death match game type, and everyone was speaking in what sounded like Russian. I even chose US for the region when prompted.Perhaps the group I was playing with lived in the US?

I thought about trying a different region, but was afraid of the lag.

Oh well, just my experience.

gaming25

No lag anywhere. Dont be scurd.

I haveexperienced lag while playing on the US servers while playing in the US, that is why I asked. Admittedly, it is rare, but it does happen (as it does with most online games).

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#173 GrilledCharlie
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[QUOTE="Megaman5364"][QUOTE="Szminsky"]

You embarrass yourself :)

MFDOOM1983

Yeah your damn straight, It's actually got a popultation of 25k according to the actual game, the website thinks its only 10k but whatever..

terrible numbers for a game that sold 3-4 million copies.

What are you talking about? KZ2 never even sold 2.5 million copies.

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#174 GrilledCharlie
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The Halo / Cod crowd is always going on about the 'terrible controls' because it's different from what they're used to. I loved the controls. Added to the realism and immersion for me.

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Well, different from accurate and responsive is not a good thing. I can get used to driving a pinto, but that doesn't make it as fun as a Porsche. You're right about the realism though...the lightning gun reacted just like a real lightning gun.
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#176 GrilledCharlie
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[QUOTE="iDefineInfinity"][QUOTE="Hahadouken"] Do you mean "in other words", or "in completely different words"? Because that isn't what I said. Why pick the most extreme examples of a multiplayer game "having a community", like Halo and COD and compare them to that. Did Killzone 2 sell 14 million copies? KZ2 is not dead, Unreal Tournament 3 is dead. That's the difference. Far Cry 2 is dead. The Darkness is dead.gaming25
In a way, you're right. But after everyone was hyping the game to death prior to launch, exclaiming it as "the true Halo killer", you can't say you're really surprised to see these comparisons. Also, the Far Cry 2 hype was microscopic compared to Killzone 2's.

By what, online hype??? Online hype does not equal real life hype.

GG and Sony were responsible for the hype by trying to pass a pre-rendered cut-scene as actual gameplay years before the game came out. That is what started the hype.
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[QUOTE="gaming25"]

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]gears 2 which came out 6 months before and suffered from a botched mp launch has more unique players playing currently.iDefineInfinity

But we all know how garbage the MP for Gears 2 is so doesnt that defeat the purpose of what you just said???

Truly pathetic witnessing this "garbage" outdoing your mighty Killzone 2 in terms of unique players at the moment, despite the fact that Gears of War 2 is older, and the series debuted this generation, unlike Killzone.

Truly pathetic that you need to put down our "mighty" Killzone 2 and make your fanboyish feelings so apparent. Yes, many people here love the game as did many critics. The general consensus of those who have played the game is that KZ2 is a solid FPS. Don't believe me? Check MetaCritic or GameRankings. Just because a game does not sell as well as GoW and have as much online play does not say anything about the quality of that game. The only thing low sales but solid scores tell us is that perhaps a game is underappreciated or that it didn't recieve the attention that it deserved.

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Truly pathetic that you need to put down our "mighty" Killzone 2 and make your fanboyish feelings so apparent. Yes, many people here love the game as did many critics. The general consensus of those who have played the game is that KZ2 is a solid FPS. Don't believe me? Check MetaCritic or GameRankings. Just because a game does not sell as well as GoW and have as much online play does not say anything about the quality of that game. The only thing low sales but solid scores tell us is that perhaps a game is underappreciated or that it didn't recieve the attention that it deserved.

mathgeek2112

Word.

Also, someone, lock this thread already. :P

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#179 iDefineInfinity
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[QUOTE="iDefineInfinity"][QUOTE="gaming25"]

But we all know how garbage the MP for Gears 2 is so doesnt that defeat the purpose of what you just said???

mathgeek2112

Truly pathetic witnessing this "garbage" outdoing your mighty Killzone 2 in terms of unique players at the moment, despite the fact that Gears of War 2 is older, and the series debuted this generation, unlike Killzone.

Truly pathetic that you need to put down our "mighty" Killzone 2 and make your fanboyish feelings so apparent. Yes, many people here love the game as did many critics. The general consensus of those who have played the game is that KZ2 is a solid FPS. Don't believe me? Check MetaCritic or GameRankings. Just because a game does not sell as well as GoW and have as much online play does not say anything about the quality of that game. The only thing low sales but solid scores tell us is that perhaps a game is underappreciated or that it didn't recieve the attention that it deserved.

All I'm saying is that Killzone 2 fell under expectations. The hype made it look like it was going to be a new Halo.
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#180 mathgeek2112
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[QUOTE="mathgeek2112"]

[QUOTE="iDefineInfinity"] Truly pathetic witnessing this "garbage" outdoing your mighty Killzone 2 in terms of unique players at the moment, despite the fact that Gears of War 2 is older, and the series debuted this generation, unlike Killzone.iDefineInfinity

Truly pathetic that you need to put down our "mighty" Killzone 2 and make your fanboyish feelings so apparent. Yes, many people here love the game as did many critics. The general consensus of those who have played the game is that KZ2 is a solid FPS. Don't believe me? Check MetaCritic or GameRankings. Just because a game does not sell as well as GoW and have as much online play does not say anything about the quality of that game. The only thing low sales but solid scores tell us is that perhaps a game is underappreciated or that it didn't recieve the attention that it deserved.

All I'm saying is that Killzone 2 fell under expectations. The hype made it look like it was going to be a new Halo.

I have to admit that I would normally agree. I also thought there was a lot of hype surrounding the game but now, I wonder. If there really had been as much hype around it as I previously thought, then it should have sold so much better. Let's face it, people will buy over hyped games even if they are god awful. Perhaps there wasn't as much anticipation surrounding the game as we thought. Sometimes media coverage can lead us to misinterpret the popularity of a game. Of course, none of this is the game's fault. Personally, I loved the SP campaign and am dying to play MP.

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#181 xYamatox
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Good to see so many people who don't know what they are talking about :)

Killzone 2 always has, and probably always will, have a big enough community to be able to find a match flawlessly. Problem is, most people don't think to turn off their filters...

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#182 Androvinus
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Good to see so many people who don't know what they are talking about :)

Killzone 2 always has, and probably always will, have a big enough community to be able to find a match flawlessly. Problem is, most people don't think to turn off their filters...

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most intelligent post all thread.
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Kinda sad when Halo a 3 year old "outdated" shooter crushes a major sony 1st party exclusive.
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Kinda sad when Halo a 3 year old "outdated" shooter crushes a major sony 1st party exclusive.Sp4rtan_3
Tell me about it. If you ask me it highlights the continual transition towards casual gaming.
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#185 iDefineInfinity
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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Kinda sad when Halo a 3 year old "outdated" shooter crushes a major sony 1st party exclusive.CentricStorm
Tell me about it. If you ask me it highlights the continual transition towards casual gaming.

"Casual gaming"? Or maybe just because Halo's damn good?

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#186 iDefineInfinity
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[QUOTE="iDefineInfinity"][QUOTE="mathgeek2112"]

Truly pathetic that you need to put down our "mighty" Killzone 2 and make your fanboyish feelings so apparent. Yes, many people here love the game as did many critics. The general consensus of those who have played the game is that KZ2 is a solid FPS. Don't believe me? Check MetaCritic or GameRankings. Just because a game does not sell as well as GoW and have as much online play does not say anything about the quality of that game. The only thing low sales but solid scores tell us is that perhaps a game is underappreciated or that it didn't recieve the attention that it deserved.

mathgeek2112

All I'm saying is that Killzone 2 fell under expectations. The hype made it look like it was going to be a new Halo.

I have to admit that I would normally agree. I also thought there was a lot of hype surrounding the game but now, I wonder. If there really had been as much hype around it as I previously thought, then it should have sold so much better. Let's face it, people will buy over hyped games even if they are god awful. Perhaps there wasn't as much anticipation surrounding the game as we thought. Sometimes media coverage can lead us to misinterpret the popularity of a game. Of course, none of this is the game's fault. Personally, I loved the SP campaign and am dying to play MP.

For nothing.

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#187 mathgeek2112
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[QUOTE="mathgeek2112"]

[QUOTE="iDefineInfinity"] All I'm saying is that Killzone 2 fell under expectations. The hype made it look like it was going to be a new Halo.iDefineInfinity

I have to admit that I would normally agree. I also thought there was a lot of hype surrounding the game but now, I wonder. If there really had been as much hype around it as I previously thought, then it should have sold so much better. Let's face it, people will buy over hyped games even if they are god awful. Perhaps there wasn't as much anticipation surrounding the game as we thought. Sometimes media coverage can lead us to misinterpret the popularity of a game. Of course, none of this is the game's fault. Personally, I loved the SP campaign and am dying to play MP.

For nothing.

R u sayin that they tried to promote the game in the UK for nothing?

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#188 readingfc_1
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Yeah, campaign was the best among the FPS's this gen. But I don't play KZ2 MP because I'm all sucked by TF2 :P

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Are you sure you were playing Killzone 2?