I know theres a best Final Fantasy.... but whats the worst? lol

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#51 XaosII
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Ive loved them all but XIII was my least favorite of them all, followed by VII. As fantastic as VII was, once you got passed the OH WOW factor it just turned out to be a great game, not a fantastic AMAZING OMFGBBQ kinda game that everyone claimed it to be.

Lastly, if I was to be mean, take IX off that list of yours...WTH are you thinking, IX is and will always be the definative Final Fantasy. It is a TRUE fantasy, not some Sci-fi or modern take on Fantasy. In terms of charm, humor, gameplay and pace it is amongst the best games I have ever played. The key word there is I, thus being only one fans opinion.

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You havent played FF Mystic Quest, FF XI, or FF XIV to make such a statement.

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#52 madsnakehhh
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9 is there? really? that's just wrong i mean...

...wait a minute, 8 is also there??????????

IS this a joke thread or something because i didn't laugh at all.

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#53 mejiseike
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9 is there? really? that's just wrong i mean...

...wait a minute, 8 is also there??????????

IS this a joke thread or something because i didn't laugh at all.

madsnakehhh

those are the most commonly heard "bad" FFs

9 was great i thought, but other people disagree

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#54 DeckardLee2010
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Whoever said 9, I hope you burn in Hell.

Anything other than 10, 12, or 13 is plain wrong and you have bad taste.

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#55 110million
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

9 is there? really? that's just wrong i mean...

...wait a minute, 8 is also there??????????

IS this a joke thread or something because i didn't laugh at all.

mejiseike

those are the most commonly heard "bad" FFs

9 was great i thought, but other people disagree

Those are not the 5 most hated though, I'd replace 9 with 2. No one likes 2.
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#56 Silverbond
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FFX and IX were amazing. :|

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#57 kuraimen
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who said 8 ? now speak!the-obiwan
This! Come at me bro!
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#58 mejiseike
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[QUOTE="mejiseike"]

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

9 is there? really? that's just wrong i mean...

...wait a minute, 8 is also there??????????

IS this a joke thread or something because i didn't laugh at all.

110million

those are the most commonly heard "bad" FFs

9 was great i thought, but other people disagree

Those are not the 5 most hated though, I'd replace 9 with 2. No one likes 2.

no ones played 2 tho...

i was originally going to put up all of them... but this site sucks

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#59 Boomshaffted
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8, bar none. Game had a tedious combat and spell system and a character cast that makes even X look good.
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#61 Kholdstare14
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12. The story was just plain awful which 60% of the party members having nothing to do with it including the main character Vaan. The progression system was annoying with the licenses and by the end my characters didn't seem all that different. Gambits were annoying to set up and there were tons of useless ones. What's more is the gambits and the combat overall had a real mechanical feel to it and just wasn't very fun. I just basically hated most everything about FF12.....well the world was ok.

If they combined FF13's combat, FF10/FF7's story and FF12's world I would have my perfect Final Fantasy =D

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[QUOTE="mejiseike"]

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

9 is there? really? that's just wrong i mean...

...wait a minute, 8 is also there??????????

IS this a joke thread or something because i didn't laugh at all.

110million

those are the most commonly heard "bad" FFs

9 was great i thought, but other people disagree

Those are not the 5 most hated though, I'd replace 9 with 2. No one likes 2.

I like 2... Origins is one of my favorite.

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#63 Phoenix534
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VII not being on that list is blasphemy.

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#64 Ziek-AAT
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A toss-up between 8, 12, and 13. Starting to lean towards 8. I can't understand how anybody can call that game the "Best" FF.

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#65 KC_Hokie
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FF XIV is by far the worst.
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#66 -Unreal-
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I vote for XIV

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#67 Capitan_Kid
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Definitely 8. Craptastic gameplay just makes me dislike it.
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#68 madsnakehhh
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A toss-up between 8, 12, and 13. Starting to lean towards 8. I can't understand how anybody can call that game the "Best" FF.

Ziek-AAT

Well, to be fair, i can't understand how people call it the "worst" either.

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#69 Sollet
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Before it was 8 but now it's 13.

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#70 lightleggy
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dude...the list sucks...if you are going to put all those great games in the list then at least put FF7 as an option (its the worst)
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#71 UC3Drake
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Whoa whoa whoa....is 9 on this list? And 7's not on it? I feel something strange going on......

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#72 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="Ziek-AAT"]

A toss-up between 8, 12, and 13. Starting to lean towards 8. I can't understand how anybody can call that game the "Best" FF.

madsnakehhh

Well, to be fair, i can't understand how people call it the "worst" either.

yeah same here...its the best, 7 and 13 are the worst
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#73 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="mejiseike"]

You fail as a FF fan... lol

mejiseike

How so? FF7 isn't as good as everyone says. Other titles are far superior

idk about far... but i agree some parts of the game kinda suck

and id still say that 8 is my least favorite but it was not a bad game at all

13 was amazing besides the story and the linear bullcrap lol

would you pls stop saying LOL at the end of each post? seriously putting "lol" or "xD" at the end of a post doesnt make your post sound less offensive (if its offensive) or wont shield you from being flamed... this a forum, not a chat with a friend of yours...you dont have to put LOL after every post
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#74 Ziek-AAT
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[QUOTE="Ziek-AAT"]

A toss-up between 8, 12, and 13. Starting to lean towards 8. I can't understand how anybody can call that game the "Best" FF.

madsnakehhh

Well, to be fair, i can't understand how people call it the "worst" either.

Having one of the worst protagonists and battle systems ever can make that happen.

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#75 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="the-obiwan"][QUOTE="Shinobi7777"]

Huh?

fueled-system

dont be surprised o-o it is true.

No its not, its hated on mostly because its one of the most recognizable rpg's of all time by the general population. It did tons of things right and was a blast. It is far from the worst

no, the game is extremely overrated, if you compare it to other FF games you will see the plot isnt superior at all, and that the main characters are all cliches and that they are done very poorly...a lot of people hate the game because its overrated, thats true, but that doesnt mean the game IS NOT overrated... im 100% sure that if FF7 would have been a SNES game and IX the first for PS1, then IX would have all the fame that VII has now
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#76 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="Ziek-AAT"]

A toss-up between 8, 12, and 13. Starting to lean towards 8. I can't understand how anybody can call that game the "Best" FF.

Ziek-AAT

Well, to be fair, i can't understand how people call it the "worst" either.

Having one of the worst protagonists and battle systems ever can make that happen.

at least squall is a cool character, he isnt some emo baby like cloud. and how was the battle system different from the other? besides being able to hit R1 to make squall pull the trigger, it was not different than the others
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#77 110million
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[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"] Japanese or North American numbering for 2? If Japanese numbering... Maybe. If American? Wow - you're one twisted little boy.

Obviously I mean Japanese 2, Its already come out here as 2 4 has already come out here as 4. Anyone saying 3 to mean 6 or 2 to mean 4 is just trying to be awkward and confusing.
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[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="Boomshaffted"] Japanese or North American numbering for 2? If Japanese numbering... Maybe. If American? Wow - you're one twisted little boy.

Obviously I mean Japanese 2, Its already come out here as 2 4 has already come out here as 4. Anyone saying 3 to mean 6 or 2 to mean 4 is just trying to be awkward and confusing.

or maybe he didnt heard about the GBA/NDS remakes. btw IV should totally be on this list
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#79 Ziek-AAT
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[QUOTE="Ziek-AAT"]

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Well, to be fair, i can't understand how people call it the "worst" either.

lightleggy

Having one of the worst protagonists and battle systems ever can make that happen.

at least squall is a cool character, he isnt some emo baby like cloud. and how was the battle system different from the other? besides being able to hit R1 to make squall pull the trigger, it was not different than the others

The Junction System was terrible. Drawing magic was such a dumb idea because you never really even have to use the magic anyway (just use it to stat boost) and they couldve at least made you be able to skip GF summons.

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#80 glez13
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Any of the first four.

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#81 Ziek-AAT
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Any of the first four.

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I liked FF4 :(

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#82 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="blackace"]

[QUOTE="mejiseike"]

10-2 doesnt count.... everyone knows it sucked, so dont even really discuss it haha

vote and explain

and also... the polls here only go up to 5.... so im going to put the ones ive heard the most

this site really needs some improvments cuz it sucks

but please if your worst isnt there, explaine what is the worst

mejiseike

Where's FF XI and IV? Both of those games are the worse if you ask me. FF IV is probably thee worse of the bunch. If you are talking about offline single game, probably FFXII or 13.

FF 11 and 14 are in there with 10-2.... they dont count lol

XI was received very well by both critics and fans, so why the hell are you saying that? and seriously, stop it with the "lol" after any thing you post

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#83 glez13
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[QUOTE="glez13"]

Any of the first four.

Ziek-AAT

I liked FF4 :(

So? I liked 8 the most and I already read your previous comments about that.

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#84 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="Ziek-AAT"]

Having one of the worst protagonists and battle systems ever can make that happen.

Ziek-AAT

at least squall is a cool character, he isnt some emo baby like cloud. and how was the battle system different from the other? besides being able to hit R1 to make squall pull the trigger, it was not different than the others

The Junction System was terrible. Drawing magic was such a dumb idea because you never really even have to use the magic anyway (just use it to stat boost) and they couldve at least made you be able to skip GF summons.

I consider junction to be more of a gameplay thing in general, not strictly something which changed the battle system... yeah, you didnt really had to use magic (it sucked anyway) and you only had to use it for stat boost, so what? and the GF cutscenes were there so that you would actually have a reason not to summon them...the GF could be summoned as many times as you wished as long as the GF was still alive...they were also very OP...having long sequences, some of which last like a minute, stopped many players from abusing the use of GF
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#85 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="Ziek-AAT"]

[QUOTE="glez13"]

Any of the first four.

glez13

I liked FF4 :(

So? I liked 8 the most and I already read your previous comments about that.

yeah, FF8 is the best, if you say something against it you cant say anything else about FF :evil:
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#86 i5750at4Ghz
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13 is really bad. The only FF I couldn't get all the way through.
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="Ziek-AAT"]

A toss-up between 8, 12, and 13. Starting to lean towards 8. I can't understand how anybody can call that game the "Best" FF.

Ziek-AAT

Well, to be fair, i can't understand how people call it the "worst" either.

Having one of the worst protagonists and battle systems ever can make that happen.

Squall is cool and the battle system was fun, i'm agree with the animation on the summons, it was a pain after 10 hours of gameplay, but other than that, i don't see any major flaw in the game.

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[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"] Japanese or North American numbering for 2? If Japanese numbering... Maybe. If American? Wow - you're one twisted little boy.110million
Obviously I mean Japanese 2, Its already come out here as 2 4 has already come out here as 4. Anyone saying 3 to mean 6 or 2 to mean 4 is just trying to be awkward and confusing.



Not nearly as obvious as you think, especially when you don't specify. Two major FF games were released on different numberings on one of the most beloved systems ever released. When you say "Final Fantasy II" and don't specify which type of numbering, well... I can look across the room room and see a red box with "Final Fantasy II" written on it that's talking about a completely different game than the one you're talking about. So go figure, I guess Square was just trying to be awkward and confusing when they released their multi-million seller RPGs on the SNES.

What's more, commonly used sites like Gamerankings and Gamefaqs and Metacritic are trying to be "awkward and confusing."

http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.html?search=Final+Fantasy+II&numrev=3&site=
http://www.gamefaqs.com/snes/522596-final-fantasy-ii
http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii/final-fantasy-ii-snes

Let's not forget Gamespot:

http://www.gamespot.com/snes/rpg/finalfantasy2/index.html?tag=result;title;7
http://www.gamespot.com/wii/rpg/finalfantasyii/index.html?tag=result;title;9

Perhaps you could send them all a memo concerning the numbering you assume everyone uses so they could snap to and conform to it, indulging in your revisionist history where these games weren't released under those numbers?

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#89 110million
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Perhaps you could send them all a memo concerning the numbering you assume everyone uses so they could snap to and conform to it, indulging in your revisionist history where these games weren't released under those numbers?Boomshaffted
Because they exist, doesn't mean anyone has to refer to them as that. It makes the MOST sense, to use their legit numbers, when FF2 came out, it was the 2nd FF, by now, everyone should know FF2 and FF4 are different games. Obviously sites aren't going to take it down or rename the original SNES one. But everyone who is at least a gamer should be aware.
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#90 spookykid143
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FF1

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[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"]Perhaps you could send them all a memo concerning the numbering you assume everyone uses so they could snap to and conform to it, indulging in your revisionist history where these games weren't released under those numbers?110million
Because they exist, doesn't mean anyone has to refer to them as that. It makes the MOST sense, to use their legit numbers, when FF2 came out, it was the 2nd FF, by now, everyone should know FF2 and FF4 are different games. Obviously sites aren't going to take it down or rename the original SNES one. But everyone who is at least a gamer should be aware.

What else is obvious is that when some of the foremost gaming sites on the internet refer to game X under a certain title, you can fully expect some people might use that title to refer to it. Arrogant little gamers who assume everyone has the systems and play the games they have should recognize that not everyone will adopt their numbering rather than expect that everyone does. Anyways, take your own advise... Because the Final Fantasy game starring Cecil the white/black and his trouble sidekick Kain exists being called FF IV doesn't mean everyone should refer to it as that when millions of gamers experienced it first under the title that Square officially gave it in the world's largest gaming market as FF II.
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[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"]Perhaps you could send them all a memo concerning the numbering you assume everyone uses so they could snap to and conform to it, indulging in your revisionist history where these games weren't released under those numbers?110million
Because they exist, doesn't mean anyone has to refer to them as that. It makes the MOST sense, to use their legit numbers, when FF2 came out, it was the 2nd FF, by now, everyone should know FF2 and FF4 are different games. Obviously sites aren't going to take it down or rename the original SNES one. But everyone who is at least a gamer should be aware.

but not everyone knows it. for example I could have been a dude who played FF IV on snes and thought it was II because, well because it had FF II everywhere. and then I retired from the gaming scene and returned this gen only for the home consoles, why should I know that FF II was actually FF IV? did someone had to tell me that when I bought my PS2/PS3/Xbox/wii?
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#93 110million
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Anyways, take your own advise... Because the Final Fantasy game starring Cecil the white/black and his trouble sidekick Kain exists being called FF IV doesn't mean everyone should refer to it as that when millions of gamers experienced it first under the title that Square officially gave it in the world's largest gaming market as FF II.Boomshaffted
Calling it FF2 only prolongs the confusion, they ****ed up because jRPGs were still starting off in NA, no one knew how popular they might become, and they probably expected no one in the west would figure it out back then, or not enough people to care, the gaming market is different now.

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[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="Boomshaffted"]Perhaps you could send them all a memo concerning the numbering you assume everyone uses so they could snap to and conform to it, indulging in your revisionist history where these games weren't released under those numbers?lightleggy
Because they exist, doesn't mean anyone has to refer to them as that. It makes the MOST sense, to use their legit numbers, when FF2 came out, it was the 2nd FF, by now, everyone should know FF2 and FF4 are different games. Obviously sites aren't going to take it down or rename the original SNES one. But everyone who is at least a gamer should be aware.

but not everyone knows it. for example I could have been a dude who played FF IV on snes and thought it was II because, well because it had FF II everywhere. and then I retired from the gaming scene and returned this gen only for the home consoles, why should I know that FF II was actually FF IV? did someone had to tell me that when I bought my PS2/PS3/Xbox/wii?

Simply put, bang on. I entirely agree it makes more sense to call FF2 by the name FF4 if we were forced to make a choice, but the game FF2/4 has two official release names. This guy says "Durrr everyone should call it what I call it" claiming to to do otherwise would be "stupid and confusing" or some such, when in reality HE could be more clear by including both of the game's official titles and not just assuming everyone follows his naming conventions. Some people won't.
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#95 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"] Anyways, take your own advise... Because the Final Fantasy game starring Cecil the white/black and his trouble sidekick Kain exists being called FF IV doesn't mean everyone should refer to it as that when millions of gamers experienced it first under the title that Square officially gave it in the world's largest gaming market as FF II.110million

Calling it FF2 only prolongs the confusion, they ****ed up because jRPGs were still starting off in NA, no one knew how popular they might become, and they probably expected no one in the west would figure it out back then, or not enough people to care, the gaming market is different now.

wheter its confuse or not, it still doesnt make that every single person who played the game while it was officially called FINAL FANTASY II will automatically know that it was actually FF IV
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#96 110million
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[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"] Anyways, take your own advise... Because the Final Fantasy game starring Cecil the white/black and his trouble sidekick Kain exists being called FF IV doesn't mean everyone should refer to it as that when millions of gamers experienced it first under the title that Square officially gave it in the world's largest gaming market as FF II.lightleggy

Calling it FF2 only prolongs the confusion, they ****ed up because jRPGs were still starting off in NA, no one knew how popular they might become, and they probably expected no one in the west would figure it out back then, or not enough people to care, the gaming market is different now.

wheter its confuse or not, it still doesnt make that every single person who played the game while it was officially called FINAL FANTASY II will automatically know that it was actually FF IV

We're on a gaming forum first of all, and even then, we're on a sub-forum on that gaming forum where people use facts, news, articles, to spite each other all the time, why would someone be on SW but not know a simple fact like that? If this was like a general OT board somewhere else, your claims would be completely legit.
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[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"] Anyways, take your own advise... Because the Final Fantasy game starring Cecil the white/black and his trouble sidekick Kain exists being called FF IV doesn't mean everyone should refer to it as that when millions of gamers experienced it first under the title that Square officially gave it in the world's largest gaming market as FF II.110million

Calling it FF2 only prolongs the confusion, they ****ed up because jRPGs were still starting off in NA, no one knew how popular they might become, and they probably expected no one in the west would figure it out back then, or not enough people to care, the gaming market is different now.

Wow, nice of you to bury your head in the sand for the way millions of gamers officially had the game introduced to them... Gamers who might not have been up to speed on every Playstation and portable release to follow. I take it you're a younger gamer? Probably started with the re-releases in NA on the Playstation? Here's a hint... If you're actually concerned with making the most sense to the most people, include both of the games' official titles when you say it. If you're interested in arguing what you believe everyone should know, but many might not, or they're just a bunch of stupid heads, keep on referring to a game with two official titles by only one of them. That's really all there is to it.
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[QUOTE="Ziek-AAT"]

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Well, to be fair, i can't understand how people call it the "worst" either.

madsnakehhh

Having one of the worst protagonists and battle systems ever can make that happen.

Squall is cool and the battle system was fun, i'm agree with the animation on the summons, it was a pain after 10 hours of gameplay, but other than that, i don't see any major flaw in the game.

The game did have a major flaw by combining like two or three GF skills and playing the card game you basically bacame a millionare and had access to some of the most potent items in the game since around the beginning of disc two. Of course you needed to experiment a lot or had played it before or using a faq/walktrough to know that. But still the flaw was there.

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[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"] Anyways, take your own advise... Because the Final Fantasy game starring Cecil the white/black and his trouble sidekick Kain exists being called FF IV doesn't mean everyone should refer to it as that when millions of gamers experienced it first under the title that Square officially gave it in the world's largest gaming market as FF II.lightleggy

Calling it FF2 only prolongs the confusion, they ****ed up because jRPGs were still starting off in NA, no one knew how popular they might become, and they probably expected no one in the west would figure it out back then, or not enough people to care, the gaming market is different now.

wheter its confuse or not, it still doesnt make that every single person who played the game while it was officially called FINAL FANTASY II will automatically know that it was actually FF IV

Don't waste too much breath. It may be an obvious point, but 110 feels like he has a point to prove now. Pride overcomes reason every time.
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#100 110million
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[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"] I take it you're a younger gamer? Probably started with the re-releases in NA on the Playstation? Here's a hint... If you're actually concerned with making the most sense to the most people, include both of the games' official titles when you say it. If you're interested in arguing what you believe everyone should know, but many might not, or they're just a bunch of stupid heads, keep on referring to a game with two official titles by only one of them. That's really all there is to it.

Started with the coleco vision, thanks for assuming. :) Like I said, we're on a gaming forum, a simple fact like which FF is which, should be bare minimum people here should know.