I think MS proved something to us this month

ITT:Sensitive peeps.

What would be the point in owning the Xbox 720 if all they get are two exclusive games in the span of one year. Console exclusives give you a reason to buy console A over console B. If Dead Rising and Gears of War were on PS3 I'd have been hard pressed to have even thought of buying a 360.

I'm sick of 360 fans saying less is better just because it still sells. Thats not true at all. If every game just seeks to be a AAA title then many of these studios will be doomed to failure if they don't sell a certain amount. I don't care how well Gears 3 scores or sells, at the end of the day Microsoft is an extremely lazy gaming company who gets by doing absolutely nothing and that is not a good precedent to set for the gaming industry in bad economic times.

I've literally had too many games to play on the PS3 this year and regardless of what those games scored or sold I respect SCE's business model of pumping out 1st party titles in order to make their system appealing to consumers, its my choice of whether or not I want to buy Killzone 3 over Resistance 3 or Infamous 2 over LittleBigPlanet 2. I don't want them thinking that just because MS is lazy and not making first party titles that they should just make a Gran Turismo and Uncharted game every year, that would be incredibly boring for me as a gamer.

Im a fan of the 360 and I can honestly say that the PS3 has outdone it in the amount ofexclusive games this past couple of years, however for me personally the 360 has offered me the better exclusives as I feel Gears is the best TPS, Halo the best FPS and Forza the best driving game in the genres that I mainly play. I can admit that the PS3 has great game in Uncharted 2 and 3 looks to carry this on and I liked MGS4 and Infamous was good as well.

What would be the point in owning the Xbox 720 if all they get are two exclusive games in the span of one year. Console exclusives give you a reason to buy console A over console B. If Dead Rising and Gears of War were on PS3 I'd have been hard pressed to have even thought of buying a 360.

I'm sick of 360 fans saying less is better just because it still sells. Thats not true at all. If every game just seeks to be a AAA title then many of these studios will be doomed to failure if they don't sell a certain amount. I don't care how well Gears 3 scores or sells, at the end of the day Microsoft is an extremely lazy gaming company who gets by doing absolutely nothing and that is not a good precedent to set for the gaming industry in bad economic times.

I've literally had too many games to play on the PS3 this year and regardless of what those games scored or sold I respect SCE's business model of pumping out 1st party titles in order to make their system appealing to consumers, its my choice of whether or not I want to buy Killzone 3 over Resistance 3 or Infamous 2 over LittleBigPlanet 2. I don't want them thinking that just because MS is lazy and not making first party titles that they should just make a Gran Turismo and Uncharted game every year, that would be incredibly boring for me as a gamer.

KevinPlanet

I'm not saying less is better and would never say that...what I am saying is it can be possible to have the best of both worlds for MS....I agree they need more core exclusives....but I am looking at this month and saying hmmm a great Kinect game and an awesome core game why can't that continue? They see that gears sells 3 mill in 7 days and gamers want that...I don't think it has to be one or the other

Everyone knows that the 360 does offer more games overall, but it also have been out a year longer than the ps3 as well. Taking exclusives into account, if you was to compare the 360 from 07 to the ps3 in 07, it will show that the ps3 have had more quality exclusives to come out than the 360. The 360 wins it in PC/360 multiplats, and games that came out for it in 06, that have sequels that are for both the ps3 and the 360 now.

[QUOTE="KevinPlanet"]

What would be the point in owning the Xbox 720 if all they get are two exclusive games in the span of one year. Console exclusives give you a reason to buy console A over console B. If Dead Rising and Gears of War were on PS3 I'd have been hard pressed to have even thought of buying a 360.

I'm sick of 360 fans saying less is better just because it still sells. Thats not true at all. If every game just seeks to be a AAA title then many of these studios will be doomed to failure if they don't sell a certain amount. I don't care how well Gears 3 scores or sells, at the end of the day Microsoft is an extremely lazy gaming company who gets by doing absolutely nothing and that is not a good precedent to set for the gaming industry in bad economic times.

I've literally had too many games to play on the PS3 this year and regardless of what those games scored or sold I respect SCE's business model of pumping out 1st party titles in order to make their system appealing to consumers, its my choice of whether or not I want to buy Killzone 3 over Resistance 3 or Infamous 2 over LittleBigPlanet 2. I don't want them thinking that just because MS is lazy and not making first party titles that they should just make a Gran Turismo and Uncharted game every year, that would be incredibly boring for me as a gamer.

chikenfriedrice

I'm not saying less is better and would never say that...what I am saying is it can be possible to have the best of both worlds for MS....I agree they need more core exclusives....but I am looking at this month and saying hmmm a great Kinect game and an awesome core game why can't that continue? They see that gears sells 3 mill in 7 days and gamers want that...I don't think it has to be one or the other

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"] Release more core exclusives, shift focus away from casual Kinect BS, don't embarrass themselves at E3 and then the hate will coincidentally stop. Heil68

So you liked the 360 before Kinect

This isn't hard to believe...

Microsoft was doing great at the beginning of this gen. Regardless of how crappy the 360 hardware was or how weird it was to pay for online. They had a ton of exclusive games, Dead Rising, Perfect Dark Zero, Banjo Kazooie N&B, Viva Pinata, Mass Effect, Gears of War, Halo 3,...that was in a span of about 2 years, they gave you a reason to want the 360.

Now not so much, and up to 2008 I'd never owned a Playstation system

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="KevinPlanet"]

What would be the point in owning the Xbox 720 if all they get are two exclusive games in the span of one year. Console exclusives give you a reason to buy console A over console B. If Dead Rising and Gears of War were on PS3 I'd have been hard pressed to have even thought of buying a 360.

I'm sick of 360 fans saying less is better just because it still sells. Thats not true at all. If every game just seeks to be a AAA title then many of these studios will be doomed to failure if they don't sell a certain amount. I don't care how well Gears 3 scores or sells, at the end of the day Microsoft is an extremely lazy gaming company who gets by doing absolutely nothing and that is not a good precedent to set for the gaming industry in bad economic times.

I've literally had too many games to play on the PS3 this year and regardless of what those games scored or sold I respect SCE's business model of pumping out 1st party titles in order to make their system appealing to consumers, its my choice of whether or not I want to buy Killzone 3 over Resistance 3 or Infamous 2 over LittleBigPlanet 2. I don't want them thinking that just because MS is lazy and not making first party titles that they should just make a Gran Turismo and Uncharted game every year, that would be incredibly boring for me as a gamer.

ermacness

I'm not saying less is better and would never say that...what I am saying is it can be possible to have the best of both worlds for MS....I agree they need more core exclusives....but I am looking at this month and saying hmmm a great Kinect game and an awesome core game why can't that continue? They see that gears sells 3 mill in 7 days and gamers want that...I don't think it has to be one or the other

just an example...I think once Kinect is established then MS can focus back on the core games again...wishful thinking

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

i'm not detailing anything. it was just a flaw in his logic. system A has 0 exclusives but 20 games overall. system B has 5 exclusives but only 15 games overall. do you get to play more games with system B?

delta3074

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

I'm not saying less is better and would never say that...what I am saying is it can be possible to have the best of both worlds for MS....I agree they need more core exclusives....but I am looking at this month and saying hmmm a great Kinect game and an awesome core game why can't that continue? They see that gears sells 3 mill in 7 days and gamers want that...I don't think it has to be one or the other

chikenfriedrice

just an example...I think once Kinect is established then MS can focus back on the core games again...wishful thinking

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]What if a core gamer doesn't take too well to Gears?:|

ermacness

just an example...I think once Kinect is established then MS can focus back on the core games again...wishful thinking

that would be my worst nightmare as an xbox fan...I still have faith

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="ianuilliam"]Except its more like A has 2 exclusives, but 44 games overall. And B has 9 exclusives, and 49 games overall, where A is 360 and B is PS3.

ianuilliam

[QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

I didn't know the year was over? Is it 2012 already?

chikenfriedrice

So what other exclusives are coming out this year?

Forza 4 another AAA...Halo Anniversary and I'm sure some Kinect titles and of course superior multiplat experiences

GS is obviously biased, look at the MC scores of Gears and the gunstringerSquirrelTamer

has nothing to do with this thread

They proved to me they are fine with releasing 1-2 exclusives a year. Coincidentally that is not fine with me. Heil68

Good thing you're happy, indeed MS delivered.

However not every gamer is content with 2 exclusives per year.

[QUOTE="KevinPlanet"]

What would be the point in owning the Xbox 720 if all they get are two exclusive games in the span of one year. Console exclusives give you a reason to buy console A over console B. If Dead Rising and Gears of War were on PS3 I'd have been hard pressed to have even thought of buying a 360.

I'm sick of 360 fans saying less is better just because it still sells. Thats not true at all. If every game just seeks to be a AAA title then many of these studios will be doomed to failure if they don't sell a certain amount. I don't care how well Gears 3 scores or sells, at the end of the day Microsoft is an extremely lazy gaming company who gets by doing absolutely nothing and that is not a good precedent to set for the gaming industry in bad economic times.

I've literally had too many games to play on the PS3 this year and regardless of what those games scored or sold I respect SCE's business model of pumping out 1st party titles in order to make their system appealing to consumers, its my choice of whether or not I want to buy Killzone 3 over Resistance 3 or Infamous 2 over LittleBigPlanet 2. I don't want them thinking that just because MS is lazy and not making first party titles that they should just make a Gran Turismo and Uncharted game every year, that would be incredibly boring for me as a gamer.

chikenfriedrice

I'm not saying less is better and would never say that...what I am saying is it can be possible to have the best of both worlds for MS....I agree they need more core exclusives....but I am looking at this month and saying hmmm a great Kinect game and an awesome core game why can't that continue? They see that gears sells 3 mill in 7 days and gamers want that...I don't think it has to be one or the other

You're implying less is better. The 720 will undoubtedly fail if they try that approach and the Playstation 4 launches with something like LittleBigPlanet 3, Infamous 3, and Uncharted 4, successful franchises that were created this gen.

Gears 3 is apparently the last Gears game so all Microsoft is left with is Halo, Forza and Fable, racing sims don't exactly appeal to everyone and Fable is steadily going downhill in quality, which will no doubt effect sales.

Actually sony did a way better job of proving that.

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="KevinPlanet"]

What would be the point in owning the Xbox 720 if all they get are two exclusive games in the span of one year. Console exclusives give you a reason to buy console A over console B. If Dead Rising and Gears of War were on PS3 I'd have been hard pressed to have even thought of buying a 360.

I'm sick of 360 fans saying less is better just because it still sells. Thats not true at all. If every game just seeks to be a AAA title then many of these studios will be doomed to failure if they don't sell a certain amount. I don't care how well Gears 3 scores or sells, at the end of the day Microsoft is an extremely lazy gaming company who gets by doing absolutely nothing and that is not a good precedent to set for the gaming industry in bad economic times.

I've literally had too many games to play on the PS3 this year and regardless of what those games scored or sold I respect SCE's business model of pumping out 1st party titles in order to make their system appealing to consumers, its my choice of whether or not I want to buy Killzone 3 over Resistance 3 or Infamous 2 over LittleBigPlanet 2. I don't want them thinking that just because MS is lazy and not making first party titles that they should just make a Gran Turismo and Uncharted game every year, that would be incredibly boring for me as a gamer.

KevinPlanet

I'm not saying less is better and would never say that...what I am saying is it can be possible to have the best of both worlds for MS....I agree they need more core exclusives....but I am looking at this month and saying hmmm a great Kinect game and an awesome core game why can't that continue? They see that gears sells 3 mill in 7 days and gamers want that...I don't think it has to be one or the other

You're implying less is better. The 720 will undoubtedly fail if they try that approach and the Playstation 4 launches with something like LittleBigPlanet 3, Infamous 3, and Uncharted 4, successful franchises that were created this gen.

Gears 3 is apparently the last Gears game so all Microsoft is left with is Halo, Forza and Fable, racing sims don't exactly appeal to everyone and Fable is steadily going downhill in quality, which will no doubt effect sales.

You have no clue on what MS will do with the next xbox...you do not know what they are working on

Actually sony did a way better job of proving that.

GD1551

by releasing a Wiimote and forgetting about it?

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Actually sony did a way better job of proving that.

chikenfriedrice

by releasing a Wiimote and forgetting about it?

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Actually sony did a way better job of proving that.

chikenfriedrice

by releasing a Wiimote and forgetting about it?

[QUOTE="Heil68"]They proved to me they are fine with releasing 1-2 exclusives a year. Coincidentally that is not fine with me. racing1750

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Actually sony did a way better job of proving that.

ermacness

by releasing a Wiimote and forgetting about it?

I own a PS3 and am happy with it...but what does that have to do with playing to both casuals and core gamers?

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Actually sony did a way better job of proving that.

chikenfriedrice

by releasing a Wiimote and forgetting about it?

Really? Did you not watch their E3 at all?

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

by releasing a Wiimote and forgetting about it?

chikenfriedrice

I own a PS3 and am happy with it...but what does that have to do with playing to both casuals and core gamers?

this is a pretty funny thread, even tho the second post should of stoped the thread, aw; good laughs all around

[QUOTE="KevinPlanet"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

I'm not saying less is better and would never say that...what I am saying is it can be possible to have the best of both worlds for MS....I agree they need more core exclusives....but I am looking at this month and saying hmmm a great Kinect game and an awesome core game why can't that continue? They see that gears sells 3 mill in 7 days and gamers want that...I don't think it has to be one or the other

chikenfriedrice

You're implying less is better. The 720 will undoubtedly fail if they try that approach and the Playstation 4 launches with something like LittleBigPlanet 3, Infamous 3, and Uncharted 4, successful franchises that were created this gen.

Gears 3 is apparently the last Gears game so all Microsoft is left with is Halo, Forza and Fable, racing sims don't exactly appeal to everyone and Fable is steadily going downhill in quality, which will no doubt effect sales.

You have no clue on what MS will do with the next xbox...you do not know what they are working on

And you neither do you. Judging by how their stance NOW is, I've seen the interviews Microsoft does and they make it known that they believe their fans are content with Halo, Forza and Fable. Their words...if they truly believe that, why would they change next gen if they're having success by doing less, as you implied in your first post.

GS is obviously biased, look at the MC scores of Gears and the gunstringerSquirrelTamer

or halo wars. whoops.

and what is wrong with the gears review? gs uses increments of .5 and since the averaged score is 91 the only two possibilities are for the scores to be underrated or overrated.

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]Look at the ps3's past line-up for 2011, and try to tell me, with a straight face, that ps3 owners wasn't satified with games this year so far.

ermacness

I own a PS3 and am happy with it...but what does that have to do with playing to both casuals and core gamers?

I agree with you...and my hope is and my point is with this month is why can't a company provide both at the same time

[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="Heil68"]They proved to me they are fine with releasing 1-2 exclusives a year. Coincidentally that is not fine with me. Heil68

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="KevinPlanet"]

You're implying less is better. The 720 will undoubtedly fail if they try that approach and the Playstation 4 launches with something like LittleBigPlanet 3, Infamous 3, and Uncharted 4, successful franchises that were created this gen.

Gears 3 is apparently the last Gears game so all Microsoft is left with is Halo, Forza and Fable, racing sims don't exactly appeal to everyone and Fable is steadily going downhill in quality, which will no doubt effect sales.

KevinPlanet

You have no clue on what MS will do with the next xbox...you do not know what they are working on

And you neither do you. Judging by how their stance NOW is, I've seen the interviews Microsoft does and they make it known that they believe their fans are content with Halo, Forza and Fable. Their words...

I would like a link to them saying those words

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="KevinPlanet"]

You're implying less is better. The 720 will undoubtedly fail if they try that approach and the Playstation 4 launches with something like LittleBigPlanet 3, Infamous 3, and Uncharted 4, successful franchises that were created this gen.

Gears 3 is apparently the last Gears game so all Microsoft is left with is Halo, Forza and Fable, racing sims don't exactly appeal to everyone and Fable is steadily going downhill in quality, which will no doubt effect sales.

KevinPlanet

You have no clue on what MS will do with the next xbox...you do not know what they are working on

And you neither do you. Judging by how their stance NOW is, I've seen the interviews Microsoft does and they make it known that they believe their fans are content with Halo, Forza and Fable. Their words...

[QUOTE="SquirrelTamer"]GS is obviously biased, look at the MC scores of Gears and the gunstringerCaseyWegner

or halo wars. whoops.

and what is wrong with the gears review? gs uses increments of .5 and since the averaged score is 91 the only two possibilities are for the scores to be underrated or overrated.

An exception only proves the rule ...

JK :)

gears 3, forza 4, & halo remake is cool with me

only ps3game i a really want more then those3is uncharted 3 and maybe twisted metal but thats kinda looking mediocre now

[QUOTE="KevinPlanet"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

You have no clue on what MS will do with the next xbox...you do not know what they are working on

chikenfriedrice

And you neither do you. Judging by how their stance NOW is, I've seen the interviews Microsoft does and they make it known that they believe their fans are content with Halo, Forza and Fable. Their words...

I would like a link to them saying those words

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/33551/Interview_Microsofts_Kevin_Unangst_On_Building_PC_Exclusives.php

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/xbox-360-first-party-has-been-superior-to-ps3-wii-says-microsoft/

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

I don't see why they can't keep that same game plan for this gen and the next

call_of_duty_10

[QUOTE="SquirrelTamer"]GS is obviously biased, look at the MC scores of Gears and the gunstringerCaseyWegner

or halo wars. whoops.

and what is wrong with the gears review? gs uses increments of .5 and since the averaged score is 91 the only two possibilities are for the scores to be underrated or overrated.

[QUOTE="SquirrelTamer"]GS is obviously biased, look at the MC scores of Gears and the gunstringerCaseyWegner

or halo wars. whoops.

and what is wrong with the gears review? gs uses increments of .5 and since the averaged score is 91 the only two possibilities are for the scores to be underrated or overrated.

I'm not calling "hacks" yet. I'll wait for the later Q4 exclusives reviews to start flowing in before making my decision. If UC3 gets raving reviews everywhere, and pulls an 8.5 here, while Halo Anniversary gets 8.5 and 8.0 mostly everywhere, and pulls a 9.0 here, then I'm jumping on the "GS reviews are biased" bandwagon.

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]Look at the ps3's past line-up for 2011, and try to tell me, with a straight face, that ps3 owners wasn't satified with games this year so far.

ermacness

I own a PS3 and am happy with it...but what does that have to do with playing to both casuals and core gamers?

multiplats were dumpin on ps3's big timeexclusives all yr seriously multiplats is where the big games are consistently coming every yr

[QUOTE="KevinPlanet"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

You have no clue on what MS will do with the next xbox...you do not know what they are working on

ermacness

And you neither do you. Judging by how their stance NOW is, I've seen the interviews Microsoft does and they make it known that they believe their fans are content with Halo, Forza and Fable. Their words...

They have two of the most talented developers out there working on Kinect games..while Sony bought a developer that made two AAA games for the PS3

And then look at how much effort their putting in for Halo 4 and a Halo Remake and look how little effort they're putting in to make an Alan Wake sequel...

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

I own a PS3 and am happy with it...but what does that have to do with playing to both casuals and core gamers?

ianuilliam

multiplats were dumpin on ps3's big timeexclusives all yr seriously multiplats is where the big games are consistently coming every yr

johnnyblazed88

Umm no...

"Portal 2" has been the only multiplatform game thats rivaled EVERY exclusive game this year including Gears 3

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="KevinPlanet"]

And you neither do you. Judging by how their stance NOW is, I've seen the interviews Microsoft does and they make it known that they believe their fans are content with Halo, Forza and Fable. Their words...

KevinPlanet

They have two of the most talented developers out there working on Kinect games..while Sony bought a developer that made two AAA games for the PS3

And then look at how much effort their putting in for Halo 4 and a Halo Remake and look how little effort they're putting in to make an Alan Wake sequel...