I think MS proved something to us this month

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#251 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Not yet? it's been talked about on this board countless amounts of times. And my nerves aren't exposed when I have the Ps3 and PC to take care of me :DAnimal-Mother

ts been talked about by cows countless of times you mean, i concede there are a few genuine people who are complaining about it also but i don't see lems complaining about it

Now not just cows. I know plenty of good people here who have discussed the issue. The masses who love the 360 like to cry wolf when their system is getting ripped on. It's the truth. MS hasn't done a damn thing this year and plenty of people know it. And I have a question. If this is system wars. Why the hell would lems complain about something to make their beloved system look worse?

that depends, if you like XBL arcade games, which i do, then MS has done plenty this year, if you like kinect, which i don't but i know plenty of people who do, then thay have done plenty this year, you cannot say that just because you personally do not like what they have done that they have not done plenty, if you count XBL and PSN games and Kinect and move games then MS have released just as many exclusives as SONY have just to a different demographic, if you say MS has not done much as far as core gamers are concerned then that's your opinion, to me a core gamer is anybody who plays games as htere primary hobby be it kinect, MOVE ,PSN arcade, XBL arcade,wii games,DS games PSP games whatever, besides, it's good business sense for them to support kinect as much as they have, they want it to take off and make them money which is the sole motivation of any business.
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#252 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Krelian-co"]no we are not happy with the lack of exclusives 360, and only two people ? have you even read the thread or you put your fanboy glasses to do so? hafve you even checked the xbox forums? yeah really happy people there. and you cant just shut people up, they bought the system they can speak wheatever they feel like it, i dont care if you dont like what we say, wtf is this if you dont like it dont play it and dont talk about it, news flash we can talk about it all we want if we feel like it, microsoft is dissapointing people with the lack of exclusives. period.Heil68
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I'm currently unhappy with lack of exclusives too, it makes for tough times for my 360. I guess MS doesn't care about people who own more than one gaming system. Maybe in their world they only think people just buy theirs and aren't interested in anything else.

are you ever happy with the 360? you are one of the people i was talking about
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#253 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]ts been talked about by cows countless of times you mean, i concede there are a few genuine people who are complaining about it also but i don't see lems complaining about itdelta3074

Now not just cows. I know plenty of good people here who have discussed the issue. The masses who love the 360 like to cry wolf when their system is getting ripped on. It's the truth. MS hasn't done a damn thing this year and plenty of people know it. And I have a question. If this is system wars. Why the hell would lems complain about something to make their beloved system look worse?

that depends, if you like XBL arcade games, which i do, then MS has done plenty this year, if you like kinect, which i don't but i know plenty of people who do, then thay have done plenty this year, you cannot say that just because you personally do not like what they have done that they have not done plenty, if you count XBL and PSN games and Kinect and move games then MS have released just as many exclusives as SONY have just to a different demographic, if you say MS has not done much as far as core gamers are concerned then that's your opinion, to me a core gamer is anybody who plays games as htere primary hobby be it kinect, MOVE ,PSN arcade, XBL arcade,wii games,DS games PSP games whatever, besides, it's good business sense for them to support kinect as much as they have, they want it to take off and make them money which is the sole motivation of any business.

You can't apply one person or a small group of people to represent the population.
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#254 delta3074
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] You can't apply one person or a small group of people to represent the population.

how do you know that only a 'small group' of 360 owners like XBL arcade games or kinect?, roughly 10 million people have bought kinect, thats roughly 20% of people who own 360's and i see plenty of people on these very boards praising XBL arcade games, like i said, it's all subjective, some people are happy with there 360's, some people ain't but i have not see Ps3 sales jump 10 fold this year so i am aassuming that most people are happy.
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#255 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] You can't apply one person or a small group of people to represent the population.delta3074
how do you know that only a 'small group' of 360 owners like XBL arcade games or kinect?, roughly 10 million people have bought kinect, thats roughly 20% of people who own 360's and i see plenty of people on these very boards praising XBL arcade games, like i said, it's all subjective, some people are happy with there 360's, some people ain't but i have not see Ps3 sales jump 10 fold this year so i am aassuming that most people are happy.

And I never said a small group of 360 owners like arcade games. I said you can't use yourself or the basis of so many people like this to represent the population of 360 users. 10 million isn't a lot for the amount of users out there. Lol, so you cry cows and here you are bashing the PS3. Is there a theme to this? Anyways. 360 has done NOTHING this year. Sales don't matter to me, kinect certainly doesn't . MS has dropped the ball on core. Plain and simple.

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#256 clone01
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[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] I was talking about exclusives...You know,the reason why people buy a console.

call_of_duty_10

I didn't know the only reason to buy a console was for exclusives? Interesting

Uhh,exclusives ARE the reason why people buy a particular console:|

If console A has 0 exclusives and console B has 5,isn't it logical to buy console B?You get to play more games.

Not really. Exclusives are a part of it, but multiplats are far more prevalent in the gaming landscape.
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Not yet? it's been talked about on this board countless amounts of times. And my nerves aren't exposed when I have the Ps3 and PC to take care of me :DAnimal-Mother

ts been talked about by cows countless of times you mean, i concede there are a few genuine people who are complaining about it also but i don't see lems complaining about it

Now not just cows. I know plenty of good people here who have discussed the issue. The masses who love the 360 like to cry wolf when their system is getting ripped on. It's the truth. MS hasn't done a damn thing this year and plenty of people know it. And I have a question. If this is system wars. Why the hell would lems complain about something to make their beloved system look worse?

I've never understood that argument... "Why are cows worried about Live fees? I don't see lems complaining about them!" "Why do cows care how many exclusives 360 has, Lems aren't complaining about it!" That's pretty weak logic. Why did Lems complain about $599!!!!? Why do Lems complain about mandatory installs? Why do Lems complain about 10 hour patch downloads? The cows thought the price ws reasonable at the time. The cows don't mind an occasional install for better performance. The cows don't mind the time it takes to patch (which isn't that long, and doesn't happen that often anyway).

If only the fansboys of a system are allowed to make arguments against that system, they may as well close the forum, because there will be zero threads. The whole point of SysWars is to have a place to argue over systems... which is done by pointing out the advantages of the system you favor and the DISADVANTAGES of the competition. If every system has free online, $60 a year online is a DISADVANTAGE. Why the hell wouldn't a cow talk about that? If one system gets basically all the same multiplats PLUS 3-4 times as many exclusives as another, that's a DISADVANTAGE for the system with no exclusives. Why the hell wouldn't cows talk about it? OBVIOUSLY the supporters of a system aren't the ones talking about that systems disadvantages...

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#259 Heil68
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look, just to sum it up, your logic is pathetic at best, im not gonna run and sell it because im dissapointed at it, nor do i have to be happy with it, im not happy with the lack of exclusives. Period.Krelian-co
Apparently that line of thinking is frowned upon by 360 supporters. *shrug* Friend request sent. :)
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#260 KiZZo1
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ts been talked about by cows countless of times you mean, i concede there are a few genuine people who are complaining about it also but i don't see lems complaining about itdelta3074

LOL. WilliamRLBaker was complaining about the lack of exclusives ... Is that enough to admit defeat?

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#261 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]ts been talked about by cows countless of times you mean, i concede there are a few genuine people who are complaining about it also but i don't see lems complaining about itdelta3074

Now not just cows. I know plenty of good people here who have discussed the issue. The masses who love the 360 like to cry wolf when their system is getting ripped on. It's the truth. MS hasn't done a damn thing this year and plenty of people know it. And I have a question. If this is system wars. Why the hell would lems complain about something to make their beloved system look worse?

that depends, if you like XBL arcade games, which i do, then MS has done plenty this year, if you like kinect, which i don't but i know plenty of people who do, then thay have done plenty this year, you cannot say that just because you personally do not like what they have done that they have not done plenty, if you count XBL and PSN games and Kinect and move games then MS have released just as many exclusives as SONY have just to a different demographic, if you say MS has not done much as far as core gamers are concerned then that's your opinion, to me a core gamer is anybody who plays games as htere primary hobby be it kinect, MOVE ,PSN arcade, XBL arcade,wii games,DS games PSP games whatever, besides, it's good business sense for them to support kinect as much as they have, they want it to take off and make them money which is the sole motivation of any business.

Well.... not really. 2 AE+ retail games (including Kinect) and 8 AE+ XBLA games (if the spreadsheet is accurate) is still less than 9 AE+ retail games and 4 AE+ PSN games. Then one can also consider that of those 8 AE+ XBLA games, they're mostly third party... like Braid... and Limbo... Castle Crashers... Castlevania:HoD... So SOME of those 10 exclusives on 360 will stay on 360, but some will hit PS3 eventually anyway. Just saying... even including XBLA/PSN, 360's having a worse year. Less 'core' retail exclusives. Less support for their motion peripheral. Less TOTAL (multiplats and downloadable games included) A+ games.

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#262 I_am_a_PS3_FB
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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

then how come the 360 is outselling the PS3?

chikenfriedrice

It isn't... There's a difference in having 3.3 million more units sold in 6 years than the other has in 5 years, and outselling the other guy. PS3 has outsold 360 pretty consistently ever since it launched.

I think a company looks at the final number of units sold and as of now MS has sold more...pretty simple

are you umm... serious..?

so that means if I sell 40 million in 5 years while a competitor sells 42 million in 6 years.. He's outselling me?.. where are you schooling?

SERIOUSLY!!?

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#263 chikenfriedrice
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[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]It isn't... There's a difference in having 3.3 million more units sold in 6 years than the other has in 5 years, and outselling the other guy. PS3 has outsold 360 pretty consistently ever since it launched.

I_am_a_PS3_FB

I think a company looks at the final number of units sold and as of now MS has sold more...pretty simple

are you umm... serious..?

so that means if I sell 40 million in 5 years while a competitor sells 42 million in 6 years.. He's outselling me?.. where are you schooling?

SERIOUSLY!!?

the 360 has more units sold that is a fact

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I think the only thing they are proving is that they are becoming casual. They clearly care more about Kinect. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if their next gen system was built around the Kinect 2.0, targetting moms who want fitness games and games for their kids. They see more money going in that direction.
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#265 chikenfriedrice
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I think the only thing they are proving is that they are becoming casual. They clearly care more about Kinect. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if their next gen system was built around the Kinect 2.0, targetting moms who want fitness games and games for their kids. They see more money going in that direction. Drakan11

and if that's what they do they will lose me as a loyal customer

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#266 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="I_am_a_PS3_FB"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

I think a company looks at the final number of units sold and as of now MS has sold more...pretty simple

chikenfriedrice

are you umm... serious..?

so that means if I sell 40 million in 5 years while a competitor sells 42 million in 6 years.. He's outselling me?.. where are you schooling?

SERIOUSLY!!?

the 360 has more units sold that is a fact

innhale exhale, calm down and try to understand this: 42 over 6 years > 40 in 5 years? i know its hard but im sure if you ask your math teacher you can get to an answer :D

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#267 chikenfriedrice
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[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="I_am_a_PS3_FB"]

are you umm... serious..?

so that means if I sell 40 million in 5 years while a competitor sells 42 million in 6 years.. He's outselling me?.. where are you schooling?

SERIOUSLY!!?

Krelian-co

the 360 has more units sold that is a fact

innhale exhale, calm down and try to understand this: 42 over 6 years > 40 in 5 years? i know its hard but im sure if you ask your math teacher you can get to an answer :D

do you think MS would say the PS3 has more units sold?