If 360 is as powerful as PS3 then we would have seen it by now.

[QUOTE="ocstew"][QUOTE="leadernator"]

you said IF. So far console multiplat titles don't compare to certain PS3 exclusives graphically. So... ownage denied.

ratchet_usa

The thing about RDR is that the world is big, but there is barely anything going on screen, and games like this have been shown before like fall out 3 also great game big world, but you can only fight like 2 or 3 enemies on screen at the same time, there is when consoles like xbox 360 shows their limits.

and games with big worlds are a thing of the past, what about Shadow of the Colossus ??? big world, alot to explore, some of the best graqphics of last gen. and everything with zero load times.

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

The poll must be a lie.

erglesmergle

Any fanboy can vote on a poll, it doesn't discredit the facts that are already there.

In your world everyone who disagrees with you is a fanboy. That was a neutral vote. Your favorite system lost. You lost. Get over it. Lets wait until Gears 3, Crysis 2 and Rage to come out first. If they really do look better than the best looking PS3 exclusive like Uncharted 2 then you can come back here and call everyone fanboys and call facts opinions. Right youre using off screen gameplay and disregarding the fact that all games evolve and the PS3 will likely have an even better looking game than the ones use using to your defense.

But their technology is roughly equal. It lost a poll, boo hoo? Cows are the most defensive people on this forum. The site is full of cows that are embarassed that Sony is in last place this gen, and act out like they have something to prove. There is nothing to prove that the Xbox360 cannot do what the PS3 can. Gears of War 3, Rage, and Crysis 2 will prove you wrong. I didn't say they'll look better, but at the least they will look just as good. You cannot prove me wrong, nobody on here can say they know the potential of the Xbox, and so far things are going in my favor.

[QUOTE="ocstew"][QUOTE="leadernator"]

you said IF. So far console multiplat titles don't compare to certain PS3 exclusives graphically. So... ownage denied.

ratchet_usa

The thing about RDR is that the world is big, but there is barely anything going on screen, and games like this have been shown before like fall out 3 also great game big world, but you can only fight like 2 or 3 enemies on screen at the same time, there is when consoles like xbox 360 shows their limits.

and games with big worlds are a thing of the past, what about Shadow of the Colossus ??? big world, alot to explore, some of the best graqphics of last gen. and everything with zero load times.

So ... RDR shows off the 360's limits, but the 360 version is better than the PS3 version, so you're saying that the PS3 has lower limits than the 360 ...

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

Why dont we wait for them to show the PS3s versions of those games. At one time i could have sworn that both of these companys have said the PS3 version of their gamewill look the best on consoles. And if they do, id otn know, that might say something.

XboximusPrime

They never said that.

Dude, please dont make me dig those quotes out. im tired right now. Go do it yourself if you dont believe me.

Aw, what the hell:

http://ps3thevolution.com/2010/04/14/crysis-2-performing-better-on-ps3-says-crytek/

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/carmack-id-rage-xbox-ps3,news-2254.html

Note: the ID article says that probaly the only place the PS3 game might look better is in a place no one would really go. But im kinda confident that itll look at the very least as good as the 360 version, but I have incline that it might look a tad better on PS3 due to extra space on PS3. Again, maybe all these things have changed, but until we see them side by side, this is all we have to go by.

I never said they'll look better on Xbox360, I said they'll at least look equal to the PS3, and like I said, there is nothing proving that the Xbox360 is incapable of not being able to match Sony. The only proof that there is is in my favor.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

They never said that.

yodaddyninja

Dude, please dont make me dig those quotes out. im tired right now. Go do it yourself if you dont believe me.

Aw, what the hell:

http://ps3thevolution.com/2010/04/14/crysis-2-performing-better-on-ps3-says-crytek/

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/carmack-id-rage-xbox-ps3,news-2254.html

Note: the ID article says that probaly the only place the PS3 game might look better is in a place no one would really go. But im kinda confident that itll look at the very least as good as the 360 version, but I have incline that it might look a tad better on PS3 due to extra space on PS3. Again, maybe all these things have changed, but until we see them side by side, this is all we have to go by.

I never said they'll look better on Xbox360, I said they'll at least look equal to the PS3, and like I said, there is nothing proving that the Xbox360 is incapable of not being able to match Sony. The only proof that there is is in my favor.

[QUOTE="ratchet_usa"]

[QUOTE="ocstew"] That still denys his weak argument. And multiplats do compare to all of your so called PS3 graphics kings. RDR is huge and open world while the games you're talking about are tiny.Snugenz

The thing about RDR is that the world is big, but there is barely anything going on screen, and games like this have been shown before like fall out 3 also great game big world, but you can only fight like 2 or 3 enemies on screen at the same time, there is when consoles like xbox 360 shows their limits.

and games with big worlds are a thing of the past, what about Shadow of the Colossus ??? big world, alot to explore, some of the best graqphics of last gen. and everything with zero load times.

So ... RDR shows off the 360's limits, but the 360 version is better than the PS3 version, so you're saying that the PS3 has lower limits than the 360 ...

He's in his own little world, just ignore him until he brings a valid argument.

Dude, please dont make me dig those quotes out. im tired right now. Go do it yourself if you dont believe me.

Aw, what the hell:

http://ps3thevolution.com/2010/04/14/crysis-2-performing-better-on-ps3-says-crytek/

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/carmack-id-rage-xbox-ps3,news-2254.html

Note: the ID article says that probaly the only place the PS3 game might look better is in a place no one would really go. But im kinda confident that itll look at the very least as good as the 360 version, but I have incline that it might look a tad better on PS3 due to extra space on PS3. Again, maybe all these things have changed, but until we see them side by side, this is all we have to go by.

XboximusPrime

Actually the Crysis 2 one was clarified later on by Crytek, what they meant was that the current (at the time) PS3 build was performing better than the previous PS3 build.

Edit: 5000th post ... :D

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

They never said that.

yodaddyninja

Dude, please dont make me dig those quotes out. im tired right now. Go do it yourself if you dont believe me.

Aw, what the hell:

http://ps3thevolution.com/2010/04/14/crysis-2-performing-better-on-ps3-says-crytek/

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/carmack-id-rage-xbox-ps3,news-2254.html

Note: the ID article says that probaly the only place the PS3 game might look better is in a place no one would really go. But im kinda confident that itll look at the very least as good as the 360 version, but I have incline that it might look a tad better on PS3 due to extra space on PS3. Again, maybe all these things have changed, but until we see them side by side, this is all we have to go by.

I never said they'll look better on Xbox360, I said they'll at least look equal to the PS3, and like I said, there is nothing proving that the Xbox360 is incapable of not being able to match Sony. The only proof that there is is in my favor.

I saw nothing you posted thats in your favor. Right now, PS3 is producing better visuals. i can give two **** about potential.

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

Dude, please dont make me dig those quotes out. im tired right now. Go do it yourself if you dont believe me.

Aw, what the hell:

http://ps3thevolution.com/2010/04/14/crysis-2-performing-better-on-ps3-says-crytek/

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/carmack-id-rage-xbox-ps3,news-2254.html

Note: the ID article says that probaly the only place the PS3 game might look better is in a place no one would really go. But im kinda confident that itll look at the very least as good as the 360 version, but I have incline that it might look a tad better on PS3 due to extra space on PS3. Again, maybe all these things have changed, but until we see them side by side, this is all we have to go by.

ocstew

I never said they'll look better on Xbox360, I said they'll at least look equal to the PS3, and like I said, there is nothing proving that the Xbox360 is incapable of not being able to match Sony. The only proof that there is is in my favor.

Yes, they never said the PS3 version is better. Somethings may be better on the Xbox version, while some parts could be better on the PS3 version, thus further showing the equal hardware in the two consoles.

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

Dude, please dont make me dig those quotes out. im tired right now. Go do it yourself if you dont believe me.

Aw, what the hell:

http://ps3thevolution.com/2010/04/14/crysis-2-performing-better-on-ps3-says-crytek/

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/carmack-id-rage-xbox-ps3,news-2254.html

Note: the ID article says that probaly the only place the PS3 game might look better is in a place no one would really go. But im kinda confident that itll look at the very least as good as the 360 version, but I have incline that it might look a tad better on PS3 due to extra space on PS3. Again, maybe all these things have changed, but until we see them side by side, this is all we have to go by.

ocstew

I never said they'll look better on Xbox360, I said they'll at least look equal to the PS3, and like I said, there is nothing proving that the Xbox360 is incapable of not being able to match Sony. The only proof that there is is in my favor.

They went on to say that it will be 60 FPS also.

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

Dude, please dont make me dig those quotes out. im tired right now. Go do it yourself if you dont believe me.

Aw, what the hell:

http://ps3thevolution.com/2010/04/14/crysis-2-performing-better-on-ps3-says-crytek/

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/carmack-id-rage-xbox-ps3,news-2254.html

Note: the ID article says that probaly the only place the PS3 game might look better is in a place no one would really go. But im kinda confident that itll look at the very least as good as the 360 version, but I have incline that it might look a tad better on PS3 due to extra space on PS3. Again, maybe all these things have changed, but until we see them side by side, this is all we have to go by.

XboximusPrime

I never said they'll look better on Xbox360, I said they'll at least look equal to the PS3, and like I said, there is nothing proving that the Xbox360 is incapable of not being able to match Sony. The only proof that there is is in my favor.

I saw nothing you posted thats in your favor.

Go back and read. And you have absoutely nothing in your favor but a lie you made up.

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

Dude, please dont make me dig those quotes out. im tired right now. Go do it yourself if you dont believe me.

Aw, what the hell:

http://ps3thevolution.com/2010/04/14/crysis-2-performing-better-on-ps3-says-crytek/

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/carmack-id-rage-xbox-ps3,news-2254.html

Note: the ID article says that probaly the only place the PS3 game might look better is in a place no one would really go. But im kinda confident that itll look at the very least as good as the 360 version, but I have incline that it might look a tad better on PS3 due to extra space on PS3. Again, maybe all these things have changed, but until we see them side by side, this is all we have to go by.

XboximusPrime

I never said they'll look better on Xbox360, I said they'll at least look equal to the PS3, and like I said, there is nothing proving that the Xbox360 is incapable of not being able to match Sony. The only proof that there is is in my favor.

I saw nothing you posted thats in your favor.

You can't prove the PS3 has superior hardware, you can't.

[QUOTE="ratchet_usa"]

[QUOTE="ocstew"] That still denys his weak argument. And multiplats do compare to all of your so called PS3 graphics kings. RDR is huge and open world while the games you're talking about are tiny.Snugenz

The thing about RDR is that the world is big, but there is barely anything going on screen, and games like this have been shown before like fall out 3 also great game big world, but you can only fight like 2 or 3 enemies on screen at the same time, there is when consoles like xbox 360 shows their limits.

and games with big worlds are a thing of the past, what about Shadow of the Colossus ??? big world, alot to explore, some of the best graqphics of last gen. and everything with zero load times.

So ... RDR shows off the 360's limits, but the 360 version is better than the PS3 version, so you're saying that the PS3 has lower limits than the 360 ...

' ' and no lems multi-plat's dont show the true and full power of a console. ' '

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="ratchet_usa"]

The thing about RDR is that the world is big, but there is barely anything going on screen, and games like this have been shown before like fall out 3 also great game big world, but you can only fight like 2 or 3 enemies on screen at the same time, there is when consoles like xbox 360 shows their limits.

and games with big worlds are a thing of the past, what about Shadow of the Colossus ??? big world, alot to explore, some of the best graqphics of last gen. and everything with zero load times.

ratchet_usa

So ... RDR shows off the 360's limits, but the 360 version is better than the PS3 version, so you're saying that the PS3 has lower limits than the 360 ...

' ' and no lems multi-plat's dont show the true and full power of a console. ' '

Still can't prove the PS3 has superior hardware.

You can't prove the PS3 has superior hardware, you can't.

yodaddyninja

The exclusive games have proven that PS3 is alot more powerfull then xbox 360.

simple fact.

You can't prove the PS3 has superior hardware, you can't.

yodaddyninja

I have games as my proof. I can give two **** about 360s so called potential, it doesent mean jack if its not being realized. Right now, as of this moment, PS3 is overall able to produce better visuals then 360s Exclusives. Multiplats dont **** count because they usually arent using all the consoles can and we all know 360 is better for multipaltform because of their archetecture, not their actual graphical power. Graphics power has always been about Exclusives. this hasnt changed and it never will IMO. Go ahead and try to Rebut this.

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="ratchet_usa"]

The thing about RDR is that the world is big, but there is barely anything going on screen, and games like this have been shown before like fall out 3 also great game big world, but you can only fight like 2 or 3 enemies on screen at the same time, there is when consoles like xbox 360 shows their limits.

and games with big worlds are a thing of the past, what about Shadow of the Colossus ??? big world, alot to explore, some of the best graqphics of last gen. and everything with zero load times.

ratchet_usa

So ... RDR shows off the 360's limits, but the 360 version is better than the PS3 version, so you're saying that the PS3 has lower limits than the 360 ...

' ' and no lems multi-plat's dont show the true and full power of a console. ' '

What are you talking about, how is that a response to my post, are you ok?

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

You can't prove the PS3 has superior hardware, you can't.

ratchet_usa

The exclusive games have proven that PS3 is alot more powerfull then xbox 360.

simple fact.

Where's proof showing the Xbox360's limitations, because Gears of War 3 wants to have a word with you. And give me an article or sometihng, because every article I've seen has compared their hardware thoroughly, and concluded that their roughly equal.

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

You can't prove the PS3 has superior hardware, you can't.

XboximusPrime

I have games as my proof. I can give two **** about 360s so called potential, it doesent mean jack if its not being realized. Right now, as of this moment, PS3 is overall able to produce better visuals then 360s Exclusives. Multiplats dont **** count because they usually arent using all the consoles can and we all know 360 is better for multipaltform because of their archetecture, not their actual graphical power. Graphics power has always been about Exclusives. this hasnt changed and it never will IMO. Go ahead and try to Rebut this.

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

You can't prove the PS3 has superior hardware, you can't.

ratchet_usa

The exclusive games have proven that PS3 is alot more powerfull then xbox 360.

simple fact.

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

You can't prove the PS3 has superior hardware, you can't.

XboximusPrime

I have games as my proof. I can give two **** about 360s so called potential, it doesent mean jack if its not being realized. Right now, as of this moment, PS3 is overall able to produce better visuals then 360s Exclusives. Multiplats dont **** count because they usually arent using all the consoles can and we all know 360 is better for multipaltform because of their archetecture, not their actual graphical power. Graphics power has always been about Exclusives. this hasnt changed and it never will IMO. Go ahead and try to Rebut this.

Why does Gears of War 3 look so good. You don't have proof because you can't show the 360 isn't capable of doing what Sony can, and right now it's clear Xbox can match Sony in terms of graphics. Crysis 2 and Rage, some of the best looking graphics on consoles, are going to look equal. If the PS3 had superior hardware, they wouldn't look equal, the PS3 would be able to maximize it's hardware and make the games look better. Gears 3 will look as good as any PS3 game, and try to prove me wrong.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

You can't prove the PS3 has superior hardware, you can't.

yodaddyninja

I have games as my proof. I can give two **** about 360s so called potential, it doesent mean jack if its not being realized. Right now, as of this moment, PS3 is overall able to produce better visuals then 360s Exclusives. Multiplats dont **** count because they usually arent using all the consoles can and we all know 360 is better for multipaltform because of their archetecture, not their actual graphical power. Graphics power has always been about Exclusives. this hasnt changed and it never will IMO. Go ahead and try to Rebut this.

Why does Gears of War 3 look so good. You don't have proof because you can't show the 360 isn't capable of doing what Sony can, and right now it's clear Xbox can match Sony in terms of graphics. Crysis 2 and Rage, some of the best looking graphics on consoles, are going to look equal. If the PS3 had superior hardware, they wouldn't look equal, the PS3 would be able to maximize it's hardware and make the games look better. Gears 3 will look as good as any PS3 game, and try to prove me wrong.

If Gears 3 does look as good as say UC 2, what does it prove, that one game out of like 20 can look just as good as a PS3 Exclusive? Thats pretty bad if your trying to make the case their equal in power. IF they were truely equal in power, we would see almost every Exclusive on both look just as good. Were not. So obviously PS3 is able to get a bit more performance out. Again, who cares about peak performance if its not realised?

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

You can't prove the PS3 has superior hardware, you can't.

XboximusPrime

I have games as my proof. I can give two **** about 360s so called potential, it doesent mean jack if its not being realized. Right now, as of this moment, PS3 is overall able to produce better visuals then 360s Exclusives. Multiplats dont **** count because they usually arent using all the consoles can and we all know 360 is better for multipaltform because of their archetecture, not their actual graphical power. Graphics power has always been about Exclusives. this hasnt changed and it never will IMO. Go ahead and try to Rebut this.

Easily, who's to say a multiplat cant and wont use the consoles full potential. There's 3 exclusives on the PS3 that look better than 360 games, which is great and they really do look a bit better. But look at one of the games your comparing and its counterpart on the 360.

KZ2 - Halo 3 = One is a tightly driven corridor shooter with a bit of content. The other is a sanbox shooter, with a ton of content. One uses and updated engine from the previous gen. The other uses a newly built engine.

Clearly different goals and approach going on here. Do you think that if KZ2 went for Halo's sandbox style gameplay and content it would still look as good ?.

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

I have games as my proof. I can give two **** about 360s so called potential, it doesent mean jack if its not being realized. Right now, as of this moment, PS3 is overall able to produce better visuals then 360s Exclusives. Multiplats dont **** count because they usually arent using all the consoles can and we all know 360 is better for multipaltform because of their archetecture, not their actual graphical power. Graphics power has always been about Exclusives. this hasnt changed and it never will IMO. Go ahead and try to Rebut this.

XboximusPrime

Why does Gears of War 3 look so good. You don't have proof because you can't show the 360 isn't capable of doing what Sony can, and right now it's clear Xbox can match Sony in terms of graphics. Crysis 2 and Rage, some of the best looking graphics on consoles, are going to look equal. If the PS3 had superior hardware, they wouldn't look equal, the PS3 would be able to maximize it's hardware and make the games look better. Gears 3 will look as good as any PS3 game, and try to prove me wrong.

If Gears 3 does look as good as say UC 2, what does it prove, that one game out of like 20 can look just as good as a PS3 Exclusive? Thats pretty bad if your trying to make the case their equal in power. IF they were truely equal in power, we would see almost every Exclusive on both look just as good. Were not. So obviously PS3 is able to get a bit more performance out. Again, who cares about peak performance if its not realised?

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

I have games as my proof. I can give two **** about 360s so called potential, it doesent mean jack if its not being realized. Right now, as of this moment, PS3 is overall able to produce better visuals then 360s Exclusives. Multiplats dont **** count because they usually arent using all the consoles can and we all know 360 is better for multipaltform because of their archetecture, not their actual graphical power. Graphics power has always been about Exclusives. this hasnt changed and it never will IMO. Go ahead and try to Rebut this.

XboximusPrime

Why does Gears of War 3 look so good. You don't have proof because you can't show the 360 isn't capable of doing what Sony can, and right now it's clear Xbox can match Sony in terms of graphics. Crysis 2 and Rage, some of the best looking graphics on consoles, are going to look equal. If the PS3 had superior hardware, they wouldn't look equal, the PS3 would be able to maximize it's hardware and make the games look better. Gears 3 will look as good as any PS3 game, and try to prove me wrong.

If Gears 3 does look as good as say UC 2, what does it prove, that one game out of like 20 can look just as good as a PS3 Exclusive? Thats pretty bad if your trying to make the case their equal in power. IF they were truely equal in power, we would see almost every Exclusive on both look just as good. Were not. So obviously PS3 is able to get a bit more performance out. Again, who cares about peak performance if its not realised?

But the majority of multiplats look superior on the 360. The only claim cows have that the PS3 is more powerful is with it's 3 exclusives. The gifs I posted look as good as PS3s best. If Gears 3 looks better then UC2, then the 360 is more powerful then the PS3, by cows logic.

[QUOTE="ratchet_usa"]

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

You can't prove the PS3 has superior hardware, you can't.

jasonharris48

The exclusive games have proven that PS3 is alot more powerfull then xbox 360.

simple fact.

Yes they are, but no games are proving this yet, microsoft can be so stupid sometimes.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

You can't prove the PS3 has superior hardware, you can't.

Snugenz

I have games as my proof. I can give two **** about 360s so called potential, it doesent mean jack if its not being realized. Right now, as of this moment, PS3 is overall able to produce better visuals then 360s Exclusives. Multiplats dont **** count because they usually arent using all the consoles can and we all know 360 is better for multipaltform because of their archetecture, not their actual graphical power. Graphics power has always been about Exclusives. this hasnt changed and it never will IMO. Go ahead and try to Rebut this.

Easily, who's to say a multiplat cant and wont use the consoles full potential. There's 3 exclusives on the PS3 that look better than 360 games, which is great and they really do look a bit better. But look at one of the games your comparing and its counterpart on the 360.

KZ2 - Halo 3 = One is a tightly driven corridor shooter with a bit of content. The other is a sanbox shooter, with a ton of content. One uses and updated engine from the previous gen. The other uses a newly built engine.

Clearly different goals and approach going on here. Do you think that if KZ2 went for Halo's sandbox style gameplay and content it would still look as good ?.

Exactly, it has to do with devs, not hardware limitations, and Gears of War 3, Crysis 2, and Rage are proving it. They look just as good as any PS3 exclusive.

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="ratchet_usa"]

The exclusive games have proven that PS3 is alot more powerfull then xbox 360.

simple fact.

ratchet_usa

Yes they are, but no games are proving this yet, microsoft can be so stupid sometimes.

Gears of War 3, Crysis 2, and Rage are proving it. Go ahead and prove me wrong. You can say the games not out or whatever, but from what we've seen, the Xbox can indeed match the Ps3 graphic wise.

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

You can't prove the PS3 has superior hardware, you can't.

ratchet_usa

The exclusive games have proven that PS3 is alot more powerfull then xbox 360.

simple fact.

It doesn't prove PS3 > xbox 360. KZ2 uses an efficient rendering method for multiple lights (deferred rendering for lights), uses static sun shadows and avoided HDR(FP).

If KZ2 enabled HDR while it uses hardware MSAA, it will have it's wings clipped.A programmer could enable HDR by moving (image based) AA to CELL e.g. GOW3.

For those who didn't see this, it's a good read explaining how the Xbox360 and PS3 are pretty equal spec wise, with no console having a clear edge over the other.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3904/processing_the_truth_an_interview_.php?page=3

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="ratchet_usa"]

The exclusive games have proven that PS3 is alot more powerfull then xbox 360.

simple fact.

ratchet_usa

Yes they are, but no games are proving this yet, microsoft can be so stupid sometimes.

[QUOTE="ratchet_usa"]

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

You can't prove the PS3 has superior hardware, you can't.

ronvalencia

The exclusive games have proven that PS3 is alot more powerfull then xbox 360.

simple fact.

Yep. And like I said, until you can prove the limitations of the Xbox360, you can't prove the PS3 is superior. And great link you posted btw, very interesting.

ITT: 360 fanboys are mad PS3 graphics are better at this moment and use unreleased games as their argument.

ITT: 360 fanboys are mad PS3 graphics are better at this moment and use unreleased games as their argument.

roflumadkid

You can't prove me wrong though. Until you can prove the limitations of the Xbox360, you can't prove the PS3 is superior. And if you don't want to believe that Gears of War 3, Crysis 2, and Rage will look just as good as any PS3 game, that's your choice.

i have both consoles, and i can't honestly tell the diffrence. the only diffrence is color, 360 is more darker than PS3 games....thats about it, i've seen plenty of jaggies on ps3

[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

Any fanboy can vote on a poll, it doesn't discredit the facts that are already there.

yodaddyninja

In your world everyone who disagrees with you is a fanboy. That was a neutral vote. Your favorite system lost. You lost. Get over it. Lets wait until Gears 3, Crysis 2 and Rage to come out first. If they really do look better than the best looking PS3 exclusive like Uncharted 2 then you can come back here and call everyone fanboys and call facts opinions. Right youre using off screen gameplay and disregarding the fact that all games evolve and the PS3 will likely have an even better looking game than the ones use using to your defense.

But their technology is roughly equal. It lost a poll, boo hoo? Cows are the most defensive people on this forum. The site is full of cows that are embarassed that Sony is in last place this gen, and act out like they have something to prove. There is nothing to prove that the Xbox360 cannot do what the PS3 can. Gears of War 3, Rage, and Crysis 2 will prove you wrong. I didn't say they'll look better, but at the least they will look just as good. You cannot prove me wrong, nobody on here can say they know the potential of the Xbox, and so far things are going in my favor.

The poll proved you wrong. Why does everything have to be cows and lemming for you? 80% of the voters agreed that PS3 exclusives look better than Xbox 360 exclusives. And at that time, which was just 3 months ago, no console multiplat looked better than Uncharted 2 (commonly accepted fact), and by that logic, the PS3 had the best looking game, probably Uncharted 2.

Its only natural for games like Gears 3, Crysis 2, and Rage to look better than Uncharted 2 since graphics get better over time. You make it seem like Uncharted 2 is the peak of the PS3 and since these newer multiplats look as good as Uncharted 2, the 360 and the PS3 are equal. If we follow the pattern, Uncharted 3 will probably come out and look better than those games. And youre forgetting about Killzone 3.

You are the true definition of a fanboy. Disregarding facts and majority vote.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

Dude, please dont make me dig those quotes out. im tired right now. Go do it yourself if you dont believe me.

Aw, what the hell:

http://ps3thevolution.com/2010/04/14/crysis-2-performing-better-on-ps3-says-crytek/

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/carmack-id-rage-xbox-ps3,news-2254.html

Note: the ID article says that probaly the only place the PS3 game might look better is in a place no one would really go. But im kinda confident that itll look at the very least as good as the 360 version, but I have incline that it might look a tad better on PS3 due to extra space on PS3. Again, maybe all these things have changed, but until we see them side by side, this is all we have to go by.

Snugenz

Actually the Crysis 2 one was clarified later on by Crytek, what they meant was that the current (at the time) PS3 build was performing better than the previous PS3 build.

Edit: 5000th post ... :D

Here's the links clarifying those posts...

Crytek internal teams compete

April 19th, 2010

"We have two really strong internal teams on the programming side working on 360 and PS3 all the time, and they're always in competition with each other," said Camarillo, speaking after the reveal of the shooter in New York two weeks ago.

"If you think 'the internet' are going at each other about this, internally our developers are doing this as well," Camarillo said. "For a week or two PS3 will look better, then the 360 guys go, 'No, no, no, we won't have that,' and they make the 360 version look and play better."

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PS3 version of Rage may have superior texture quality

August 1st, 2008

In an interview with Shacknews, id's John Carmack reiterated that the Xbox 360 version of Rage will look worse than the PlayStation 3 version.

Carmack said that the uncompressed build of Rage encompasses a terrabyte of data, and that id will need to use a "different type of compression" to fit the game on two dual-layer Xbox 360 DVDs.

When asked whether the difference will be significant, Carmack noted that "hero shots" should look similar, but that Xbox 360 players might find a rock that is more blurry when exploring the periphery of Rage's world.

According to Carmack, the royalty fees to include a third disc in the Xbox 360 version would be so high that it simply isn't a feasible solution, with the programmer hoping for Microsoft to make a concession. He stressed that the issue is merely a storage problem and has nothing to do with the power of the Xbox 360 hardware, while adding that the PlayStation 3's Blu-ray format is Sony's one leg up on the competition.

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The Rage link was from 2008.

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

Dude, please dont make me dig those quotes out. im tired right now. Go do it yourself if you dont believe me.

Aw, what the hell:

http://ps3thevolution.com/2010/04/14/crysis-2-performing-better-on-ps3-says-crytek/

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/carmack-id-rage-xbox-ps3,news-2254.html

Note: the ID article says that probaly the only place the PS3 game might look better is in a place no one would really go. But im kinda confident that itll look at the very least as good as the 360 version, but I have incline that it might look a tad better on PS3 due to extra space on PS3. Again, maybe all these things have changed, but until we see them side by side, this is all we have to go by.

gamecubepad

Actually the Crysis 2 one was clarified later on by Crytek, what they meant was that the current (at the time) PS3 build was performing better than the previous PS3 build.

Edit: 5000th post ... :D

Here's the links clarifying those posts...

Crytek internal teams compete

April 19th, 2010

"We have two really strong internal teams on the programming side working on 360 and PS3 all the time, and they're always in competition with each other," said Camarillo, speaking after the reveal of the shooter in New York two weeks ago.

"If you think 'the internet' are going at each other about this, internally our developers are doing this as well," Camarillo said. "For a week or two PS3 will look better, then the 360 guys go, 'No, no, no, we won't have that,' and they make the 360 version look and play better."

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PS3 version of Rage may have superior texture quality

August 1st, 2008

In an interview with Shacknews, id's John Carmack reiterated that the Xbox 360 version of Rage will look worse than the PlayStation 3 version.

Carmack said that the uncompressed build of Rage encompasses a terrabyte of data, and that id will need to use a "different type of compression" to fit the game on two dual-layer Xbox 360 DVDs.

When asked whether the difference will be significant, Carmack noted that "hero shots" should look similar, but that Xbox 360 players might find a rock that is more blurry when exploring the periphery of Rage's world.

According to Carmack, the royalty fees to include a third disc in the Xbox 360 version would be so high that it simply isn't a feasible solution, with the programmer hoping for Microsoft to make a concession. He stressed that the issue is merely a storage problem and has nothing to do with the power of the Xbox 360 hardware, while adding that the PlayStation 3's Blu-ray format is Sony's one leg up on the competition.

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The Rage link was from 2008.

Thats not the clarification i was talking about, i'll dig about and find a link for ya.

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

In your world everyone who disagrees with you is a fanboy. That was a neutral vote. Your favorite system lost. You lost. Get over it. Lets wait until Gears 3, Crysis 2 and Rage to come out first. If they really do look better than the best looking PS3 exclusive like Uncharted 2 then you can come back here and call everyone fanboys and call facts opinions. Right youre using off screen gameplay and disregarding the fact that all games evolve and the PS3 will likely have an even better looking game than the ones use using to your defense.

erglesmergle

But their technology is roughly equal. It lost a poll, boo hoo? Cows are the most defensive people on this forum. The site is full of cows that are embarassed that Sony is in last place this gen, and act out like they have something to prove. There is nothing to prove that the Xbox360 cannot do what the PS3 can. Gears of War 3, Rage, and Crysis 2 will prove you wrong. I didn't say they'll look better, but at the least they will look just as good. You cannot prove me wrong, nobody on here can say they know the potential of the Xbox, and so far things are going in my favor.

The poll proved you wrong. Why does everything have to be cows and lemming for you? 80% of the voters agreed that PS3 exclusives look better than Xbox 360 exclusives. And at that time, which was just 3 months ago, no console multiplat looked better than Uncharted 2 (commonly accepted fact), and by that logic, the PS3 had the best looking game, probably Uncharted 2.

Its only natural for games like Gears 3, Crysis 2, and Rage to look better than Uncharted 2 since graphics get better over time. You make it seem like Uncharted 2 is the peak of the PS3 and since these newer multiplats look as good as Uncharted 2, the 360 and the PS3 are equal. If we follow the pattern, Uncharted 3 will probably come out and look better than those games. And youre forgetting about Killzone 3.

You are the true definition of a fanboy. Disregarding facts and majority vote.

The problem is that Uncharted 2uses a tiny world to make the good graphics, while RDR that is a huge open one, looks better on 360

As for Rage, everyone says it is the best looking game by far, and is running in 60fps on 360 and packs a open world,meaning the Uncharted 2 argument is over now

ITT: 360 fanboys are mad PS3 graphics are better at this moment and use unreleased games as their argument.

roflumadkid

[QUOTE="roflumadkid"]

ITT: 360 fanboys are mad PS3 graphics are better at this moment and use unreleased games as their argument.

Grawse

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

I have games as my proof. I can give two **** about 360s so called potential, it doesent mean jack if its not being realized. Right now, as of this moment, PS3 is overall able to produce better visuals then 360s Exclusives. Multiplats dont **** count because they usually arent using all the consoles can and we all know 360 is better for multipaltform because of their archetecture, not their actual graphical power. Graphics power has always been about Exclusives. this hasnt changed and it never will IMO. Go ahead and try to Rebut this.

XboximusPrime

Why does Gears of War 3 look so good. You don't have proof because you can't show the 360 isn't capable of doing what Sony can, and right now it's clear Xbox can match Sony in terms of graphics. Crysis 2 and Rage, some of the best looking graphics on consoles, are going to look equal. If the PS3 had superior hardware, they wouldn't look equal, the PS3 would be able to maximize it's hardware and make the games look better. Gears 3 will look as good as any PS3 game, and try to prove me wrong.

If Gears 3 does look as good as say UC 2, what does it prove, that one game out of like 20 can look just as good as a PS3 Exclusive? Thats pretty bad if your trying to make the case their equal in power. IF they were truely equal in power, we would see almost every Exclusive on both look just as good. Were not. So obviously PS3 is able to get a bit more performance out. Again, who cares about peak performance if its not realised?

I wonder why is this still going on? :o

Didnt the creator of the cell and some respected devs already confirmed 360 and PS3 are technically equal? Not even to mension the fact that latest games running on 360 (Rage, Crysis2, Gears3, etc) already proved haters wrong!

I see many ppl is having a hard time to accept the obvious :?

[QUOTE="ocstew"][QUOTE="Grawse"]This. So what IF Gears 3 looks better than Uncharted 2. It will come out what, 15 months later?

Grawse

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

In your world everyone who disagrees with you is a fanboy. That was a neutral vote. Your favorite system lost. You lost. Get over it. Lets wait until Gears 3, Crysis 2 and Rage to come out first. If they really do look better than the best looking PS3 exclusive like Uncharted 2 then you can come back here and call everyone fanboys and call facts opinions. Right youre using off screen gameplay and disregarding the fact that all games evolve and the PS3 will likely have an even better looking game than the ones use using to your defense.

erglesmergle

But their technology is roughly equal. It lost a poll, boo hoo? Cows are the most defensive people on this forum. The site is full of cows that are embarassed that Sony is in last place this gen, and act out like they have something to prove. There is nothing to prove that the Xbox360 cannot do what the PS3 can. Gears of War 3, Rage, and Crysis 2 will prove you wrong. I didn't say they'll look better, but at the least they will look just as good. You cannot prove me wrong, nobody on here can say they know the potential of the Xbox, and so far things are going in my favor.

The poll proved you wrong. Why does everything have to be cows and lemming for you? 80% of the voters agreed that PS3 exclusives look better than Xbox 360 exclusives. And at that time, which was just 3 months ago, no console multiplat looked better than Uncharted 2 (commonly accepted fact), and by that logic, the PS3 had the best looking game, probably Uncharted 2.

Its only natural for games like Gears 3, Crysis 2, and Rage to look better than Uncharted 2 since graphics get better over time. You make it seem like Uncharted 2 is the peak of the PS3 and since these newer multiplats look as good as Uncharted 2, the 360 and the PS3 are equal. If we follow the pattern, Uncharted 3 will probably come out and look better than those games. And youre forgetting about Killzone 3.

You are the true definition of a fanboy. Disregarding facts and majority vote.

Dude, 99% of posters dont really know what they are talking about. Most opinions are biased here and it´s pretty obvious when the best proof PS3 owners have in favour of PS3 graphics are 2 games that dont even have a version on 360 to compare with :?

[QUOTE="roflumadkid"]

ITT: 360 fanboys are mad PS3 graphics are better at this moment and use unreleased games as their argument.

Grawse

Except it looks as good as Killzone3 and will come in the same year.