If GT5 scores less than 9.5 on GS, will SW consider it a failure?

i guess. although imo, since forza 3 raised the standards, if GT5 gets a 9.0 it should be equal to forza 3's 9.5Silenthps

So then we are in agreement that Gamespot will likely have to changer the maximum score to 20, and give GT5 a 32?

Yea, there would be ownage here for a few weeks probably with lems playing up scores, playing down sales while cows do the exact opposite93soccer

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]i guess. although imo, since forza 3 raised the standards, if GT5 gets a 9.0 it should be equal to forza 3's 9.5foxhound_fox

Wouldn't stop it from outselling anyliving 360 game :P

And that alone, will be ownage...for an entire generation.

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[QUOTE="Silenthps"]i guess. although imo, since forza 3 raised the standards, if GT5 gets a 9.0 it should be equal to forza 3's 9.5Silenthps

Wouldn't stop it from outselling anyliving 360 game :P

And that alone, will be ownage...for an entire generation.

tonitorsi

so now sales matters?

I gotta make this clear, no AAA game will ever, ever be a failure.

Ever.

I gotta make this clear, no AAA game will ever, ever be a failure.

Ever.

Chutebox

yep. and the same can happen to Halo Reach.

Anything less than a 10 is a failure, methinks.

You guys can quote me on this, put in your sigs, anything. Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit will outscore GT5. Not because it's more realistic, but because it's more FUN. Take it to the bank.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

I gotta make this clear, no AAA game will ever, ever be a failure.

Ever.

Anjunaddict

oh snap:P

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

I gotta make this clear, no AAA game will ever, ever be a failure.

Ever.

Anjunaddict

Yes it will fail below 9.5 in system wars.

Standards increase over time, if anything GT5 has a lot of proving to do against the amazing FORZA 3, and previous Gran Turismo games to the Gamespot staff. If the game gets AAA, then it's truly earned it, if it gets lower than AAA, then GT5 failed to meet Hype. That's the rules TC, and you know it.

I gotta make this clear, no AAA game will ever, ever be a failure.

Ever.

Chutebox

That's how I feel, this whole cutting into an AAA score by halves (.5's), is damage control if you ask me, as it shows a worry that a game may score AAA, but bashing still is needed to be done by certain folks.

I saw a banned user, I believe his name was BSO try to make only PS3 AAA games flop if they didn't get that .5 half.

Sure, there have been some great AAA games that got AA at GS, and even some A games that got AAA at GS, but as far as the GS spreadsheet they still count, and are used in arguments to this day.

I don't see a GIANT SW thread about Halo : Reach or ZELDA having to score a 9.5 or 10, or it's a failure (especially considering Halo ODST got 9.0)...and there is a reason why. It wouldn't make sense, if that thread existed, I would post the same thing I'm posting now.

The SW rules are about Hype and Flop based on initial Hype. GT5's hype is AAA, so if it fails to meet AAA, it's a flop, if it meets AAA then it isn't a flop.

tbh i couldnt cae cause i will be too busy playing it.Where as 13 y/o lemmings and cows who aint played the game will be trying to claim some form of superiority.

Since the release of GT4 there's been two Forza's released on the XBOX 360, both of which scored considerabley well. Forza 3 really set the bar for racing simulators and with the production GT5 been so long and hyped if it scores anything less than 9.5 (Which Forza 3 scored) do you see SW exploding and calling it a failure?

Zune_HD

If there is a different reviewer than the one who reviewed Forza 3, then if it was still 9.0, I wouldn't call it inferior. Why? Because we're talking about two different people, with two different opinions.

Hmm.... it should go without saying no AAA game is ever going to be a flop.

I thought official hype was AAA and whether it meets the hype was the thing to determine flops and failures.

yeah but standards are raised as time progresses. look at Gears 360 > PC. The PC version was superior to the 360 in everyway and got .6 less because it came out a year later. zelda spirit tracks got an 8.5 despite being superior in everyway to zelda phantom hourglass which got a 9.

Silenthps

Anything less than a 10 and I would consider it a flop. I know its going to be a great game regardless.

Anything less than a 10 and I would consider it a flop. I know its going to be a great game regardless.

Scythes777

Same thing for Zelda and Halo Reach then, right?

:P

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

I gotta make this clear, no AAA game will ever, ever be a failure.

Ever.

Anjunaddict

Isn't the hype AAA? A 9 would be a good score but lemmings would definitely use it as ownage. I can already see the comments now.

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]yeah but standards are raised as time progresses. look at Gears 360 > PC. The PC version was superior to the 360 in everyway and got .6 less because it came out a year later. zelda spirit tracks got an 8.5 despite being superior in everyway to zelda phantom hourglass which got a 9.

foxhound_fox

I genuinely don't think it will score more than 9.2 here - GS will whine on about how it feels "incomplete" because there are only 200 premium cars, and the other 800 just feel "unfinished". That's my bet anyway.

It doesn't really matter to me since (IMO) it'll be better than Forza.

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]yeah but standards are raised as time progresses. look at Gears 360 > PC. The PC version was superior to the 360 in everyway and got .6 less because it came out a year later. zelda spirit tracks got an 8.5 despite being superior in everyway to zelda phantom hourglass which got a 9.

foxhound_fox

Any game that scores 9.0 isn't a failure :).

Any game that scores 9.0 isn't a failure :).

lbjkurono23

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[QUOTE="Silenthps"]yeah but standards are raised as time progresses. look at Gears 360 > PC. The PC version was superior to the 360 in everyway and got .6 less because it came out a year later. zelda spirit tracks got an 8.5 despite being superior in everyway to zelda phantom hourglass which got a 9.

zero_snake99

I genuinely don't think it will score more than 9.2 here - GS will whine on about how it feels "incomplete" because there are only 200 premium cars, and the other 800 just feel "unfinished". That's my bet anyway.

GnR-SLaSh

[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"]

Any game that scores 9.0 isn't a failure :).

GnR-SLaSh

not really, GT5 will sell 5-10 million copies, forza isnt even that popular. and whyis GS the "ultimate' review center? its still one person's opinion.

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]
Actually, that had more to do with it being on PC than coming out later. Look at the difference between the two versions of Halo 2, the PC version scored low 7, but was still called the definitive version. You need to text of the review to make any hedge-way, but when just comparing scores, and not to the PC, if they are unequal, then the games are unequal.

Anjunaddict

Any game that scores 9.0 isn't a failure :).

lbjkurono23

It will be failure in the sense that it failed to outscore Forza 3 which is the point everyone here is making.

not really, GT5 will sell 5-10 million copies, forza isnt even that popular.

YankeesNYC4life

So every FPS other than Halo and Call of Duty are failures?

Lems would have a field day with it, scoring less than 9.5 is not failure I can't say that, I'd be crazy if I said that it's not even a failure in the Forza VS GT sense, it'd only mean that Forza >>>>>>>>>>>GT series.