If GT5 scores less than 9.5 on GS, will SW consider it a failure?

Just as a game no since there are some games that are relatively fun despite scoring lower than 9.5, but comparing it directly to other sim racer than sure.

AAA is AAA. I've seen that mantra repeated umpteen times when discussing flops here on SW. It's hyped AAA, so anything 9 or better qualifies.

If you wanna get into Forza vs GT debates, fine. I mean, people have been fighting that war with old scores for forever. This will just be new ammo, whatever the score is. But if it meets hype it isn't a failure... by SW definition.:|

Grand Turismo 5 and Forza 3 = :|

Given Gran Turismo's previous history...the ridiculously long developmental time, the high score of Forza 3 among other reasons I think anything less than 9.5 would be a flop. Still I think a 9.5 is nearly on lock for this game. I think GS will be afraid to give it 9.0 because there would be so much hate (and people would want a legit reason for the deduction), but won't want to give a racing sim a 10.

Grand Turismo 5 and Forza 3 = :|

LegatoSkyheart

At the time of release yes...of course I would hope that GT5 would become number 1 being released significantly later.

[QUOTE="Scythes777"]

Anything less than a 10 and I would consider it a flop. I know its going to be a great game regardless.

SolidTy

Same thing for Zelda and Halo Reach then, right?

:P

if this game gets a 94 on MC but gs decides to be gs and gives it a 9.0, ppl would say it underachieved?.allife

Yes, that is what people would be saying and they would be correct. If it cannot outscore Forza 3, then it is a failure.

[QUOTE="allife"]if this game gets a 94 on MC but gs decides to be gs and gives it a 9.0, ppl would say it underachieved?.Silverbond

Yes, that is what people would be saying and they would be correct. If it cannot outscore Forza 3, then it is a failure.

I think so OP. Xbros would have a field day.

There will be GT5 is a failure threads regardless of score. Reasons will vary from you can't alter your drivers height to the lack of spaceship racing.

Pug-Nasty

I have absolutely no doubt Gran Turismo 5 scores 9.5 or better.

That said, I will also say that it needs to. Here on SWs it needs a 9.5 to equal Forza 3 or 10 to beat it. The battle between the games have become more important than the games them selves here.

But I wouldn't be suprised if GT5 scores a 10.

I actually want the game to get an 8.5 just to see what kind of chaos erupts on SW :P. I know, I'm evil :D. DethSkematik

dude half the cows would boycott the site. You would see a massive drop in traffic around here. And the reviewer would get threats against his life and entire websites created, dedicatated to the sacrilidge of having the gall to scrore a flagship PS3 exclusive down (maybe a playstationcommunitycollege.com since the PS university of edumacation was taken).

:( I wouldn't wish that on anyone... ooOO you are evil :twisted: :P

Sadly I cant chose if GT5 scores 10 then Cows will trash lems for a very long time and if it scores less than 9.5 it will be the opposite so both of them will be interesting :P.

Not a failure but it will be considered a flop here because thats how this place works, to be fair its had a huge development cycle and it is mega hyped (probably the most hyped racer I have ever seen). Personally I think it is overhyped and a lot of people will be a little disappointed no matter what which is a shame, but I don't think that will effect its score because GT has always been so easy to pick up and play.

who cares realistic racing games are lame and dumb

It has to get a 10 or it's a flop.

who cares realistic racing games are lame and dumb

edinsftw

Partially true. GT4 had a terrible structure. It was a good game, but pretty dull, imo.

Motorstorm is the best racing game this generation so far.

Since it was called the 'Forza 3 killer', if it fails to either meet a 9.5 or get a 10. It'd probably be a flop.

It has to get a 10 or it's a flop.

xhawk27

Well with the long development time and having it score less than Forza would be disappointing.

That would be an anticlimax, a "damp squib". I'd be very surprised if it isn't 9.5. Maybe 10, they're all the rage now.

No because if it gets a 9 then thats the opinion of the one guy that reviewed it, everyone always says opinions =/= facts, which is true. But of course on this forum fanboys on either side will be raging.

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

It has to get a 10 or it's a flop.

mystervj

It has to get a 10 or it's a flop.

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"][QUOTE="mystervj"] No game can be expected to get a 10, I think it does need a 9.5 for SW arguments.GnR-SLaSh

[QUOTE="GnR-SLaSh"][QUOTE="mo0ksi"] People expect it to be better than Forza 3, which got a 9.5 So yeah, people ARE expecting GT5 to get a 10.red12355

Since the release of GT4 there's been two Forza's released on the XBOX 360, both of which scored considerabley well. Forza 3 really set the bar for racing simulators and with the production GT5 been so long and hyped if it scores anything less than 9.5 (Which Forza 3 scored) do you see SW exploding and calling it a failure?

Zune_HD

[QUOTE="red12355"][QUOTE="GnR-SLaSh"] Anything over AAA is not a flop, stop trying to push up the hype for this game for argument's sake. Why does beating 9.5 instantly mean that it needs a 10?! Call me nuts but I was sure there were another 4 decimals between 9.5 and 10... I am a massive fan of both GT and FM, but IMO it won't beat Forza 3's score at Gamespot. Gamespot will give it a low 9 and whine on about how there are only 200 premium cars, and the other 800 standard aren't enough for them not to call the game incomplete. They will also drag on about the fact that you can't customize your car to the extent that you can on FM3, such as the in depth customisation system with decals and paintwork. GT5 will be the better driving simulator, there is no doubt, in terms of realism, driving physics and weather conditions, but I'm positive that GS will not reward it to the level that it will deserve.GnR-SLaSh

[QUOTE="red12355"][QUOTE="GnR-SLaSh"]but I'm positive that GS will not reward it to the level that it will deserve.GnR-SLaSh

No. You see, since it's coming out a year later, the standards are going to be much higher, so if it gets an 8.5 that's like the equivalent of a 10 when Forza 3 came out.

Also, platform standards come into account, and since the 360 has no good games, Forza Motorsport 3 getting a 9.5 on the 360 is the equiavlent of getting a 7.0 on the PS3. So Gran Turismo 5 only needs to get like a 6 to be better than Forza 3.

/pre-damage control

A AAAE is a AAAE. If it scores less than a 9, than yes. I however, don't see the appeal to this game, so I wouldn't care if it scored a 2. I'll still have WAY more fun playing Motorstorm: Pacific Rift. I don't like Sim Racers.

Since it was called the 'Forza 3 killer', if it fails to either meet a 9.5 or get a 10. It'd probably be a flop.

Vesica_Prime

yeah, pretty much

[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

Since it was called the 'Forza 3 killer', if it fails to either meet a 9.5 or get a 10. It'd probably be a flop.

KarateeeChop

yeah, pretty much

I'd say if it does less than 9.

Im not a huge racer fan but if this game isnt AAA after SO LONG in development it deserves to get bashed.

No it will not be a failure , but it will mean that Forza is the better game. And to all the cows trying to setup the standards change excuse for damage control. Forza set the bar for console sim racers so no a 9.0 from GT will not = Forza's 9.5 good try though.

[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

Since it was called the 'Forza 3 killer', if it fails to either meet a 9.5 or get a 10. It'd probably be a flop.

KarateeeChop

yeah, pretty much

Same for Halo : Reach man...it better get 9.5 or 10.

After all, Halo ODST was just a mere expansion, and a low metascoring Halo game...this is HALO 3's TRUE sequel, and BUNGIE's FAREWELL OPUS. It better deliver, right?

If ODST got a 9 from Gamespot, considering all it's faults...HALO REACH better get a 9.5 or 10.

Also, I'm not serious, no game should be required to be a 9.5 or 10 or it's a failure, c'mon. : P

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[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

Since it was called the 'Forza 3 killer', if it fails to either meet a 9.5 or get a 10. It'd probably be a flop.

Blaze-Agent

yeah, pretty much

What? :lol: All Forza games have been AAA. GT5's playing catch-up every time a Forza game comes out, and that's probably why they kept delaying it.