If it wasnt for XBL, PSN would never be as it is now

Alot of people have been saying how PSN is better because it's free and such, fairenough. Do those people even know where PSN got all their features from? Thats right, XBL. XBL was invented much more before PSN was made. PSN took many things like trophies, in game XMB support, in game messaging, voice chat, join session in progress, recent players all from XBL. People have been saying how XBL is same as PSN, but do people know 70% of the features in PSN are plainly ripped-off from XBL? If one of the two services were to add something different and innovative, it will be xbox live. Also if XBL didnt exist, I wonder where PSN would of ripped their ideas from? People need to realise that XBL is far original, and that PSN is company that clones features from XBL. This is plain fact. Sorry cows but true.

But what makes it worse is that we have to pay for the "original features". So..... yeah. Not that great.

But what makes it worse is that we have to pay for the "original features". So..... yeah. Not that great.

Thuganomic05

But what makes it worse is that we have to pay for the "original features". So..... yeah. Not that great.

I'm just glad that ms is taking online gaming in the right direction Who doesn't love paying to play online?ultraking

Here's hoping online on next gen consoles stay free.

I'm just glad that ms is taking online gaming in the right direction Who doesn't love paying to play online?ultraking

[QUOTE="ultraking"]I'm just glad that ms is taking online gaming in the right direction Who doesn't love paying to play online?Ly_the_Fairy

[QUOTE="ultraking"]I'm just glad that ms is taking online gaming in the right direction Who doesn't love paying to play online?Ly_the_Fairy

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[QUOTE="ultraking"]I'm just glad that ms is taking online gaming in the right direction Who doesn't love paying to play online?Thuganomic05

I'm just glad that ms is taking online gaming in the right direction Who doesn't love paying to play online?ultraking

is that really a joke? if PSN wouldn't be what it is today with out XBL, than how is MS taking online gaming in the wrong direction?. cause you have to pay?

GIVE ME A BREAK, PC gaming wouldn't even be where its at today if gamers weren't given it money. PC gaming is supported by the community, same goes for XBL,

And if it wasn't for Sony and it's Playstation brand, MS wouldn't have a complete gaming division that popularized the market that made the 360 today.Bazooka_4ME

[QUOTE="ultraking"]I'm just glad that ms is taking online gaming in the right direction Who doesn't love paying to play online?gamer-adam1

is that really a joke? if PSN wouldn't be what it is today with out XBL, than how is MS taking online gaming in the wrong direction?. cause you have to pay?

GIVE ME A BREAK, PC gaming wouldn't even be where its at today if gamers weren't given it money. PC gaming is supported by the community, same goes for XBL,

[QUOTE="Thuganomic05"][QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"] Paying to play games online existed before MS introduced XBL.

vashkey

Alot of people have been saying how PSN is better because it's free and such, fairenough. Do those people even know where PSN got all their features from? Thats right, XBL. XBL was invented much more before PSN was made. PSN took many things like trophies, in game XMB support, in game messaging, voice chat, join session in progress, recent players all from XBL. People have been saying how XBL is same as PSN, but do people know 70% of the features in PSN are plainly ripped-off from XBL? If one of the two services were to add something different and innovative, it will be xbox live. Also if XBL didnt exist, I wonder where PSN would of ripped their ideas from? People need to realise that XBL is far original, and that PSN is company that clones features from XBL. This is plain fact. Sorry cows but true.

shahilsyed

Anyone who says "PSN is better" is delusional, a diehard PS3 fanboy, or has simply never used a 360 (or Xbox Live) for an extended period of time. (IE. Owning a 360, not going over to your friends house and using it)

Anyone who says "PSN is better" is delusional, a diehard PS3 fanboy, or has simply never used a 360 (or Xbox Live) for an extended period of time. (IE. Owning a 360, not going over to your friends house and using it)

StrongDeadlift

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Anyone who says "PSN is better" is delusional, a diehard PS3 fanboy, or has simply never used a 360 (or Xbox Live) for an extended period of time. (IE. Owning a 360, not going over to your friends house and using it)

tormentos

If it's better then it's better. Deal with it.

[QUOTE="shahilsyed"]

Alot of people have been saying how PSN is better because it's free and such, fairenough. Do those people even know where PSN got all their features from? Thats right, XBL. XBL was invented much more before PSN was made. PSN took many things like trophies, in game XMB support, in game messaging, voice chat, join session in progress, recent players all from XBL. People have been saying how XBL is same as PSN, but do people know 70% of the features in PSN are plainly ripped-off from XBL? If one of the two services were to add something different and innovative, it will be xbox live. Also if XBL didnt exist, I wonder where PSN would of ripped their ideas from? People need to realise that XBL is far original, and that PSN is company that clones features from XBL. This is plain fact. Sorry cows but true.

tormentos

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]And if it wasn't for Sony and it's Playstation brand, MS wouldn't have a complete gaming division that popularized the market that made the 360 today.Ace6301

Here's hoping online on next gen consoles stay free.

ActionRemix

And if it wasn't for Sony and it's Playstation brand, MS wouldn't have a complete gaming division that popularized the market that made the 360 today.Bazooka_4ME

My question is - who brought the payments up? As if it's been such a problem since the launch?

My question is - who brought the payments up? As if it's been such a problem since the launch?

Thuganomic05

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My question is - who brought the payments up? As if it's been such a problem since the launch?

KC_Hokie

[QUOTE="ultraking"]I'm just glad that ms is taking online gaming in the right direction Who doesn't love paying to play online?gamer-adam1

is that really a joke? if PSN wouldn't be what it is today with out XBL, than how is MS taking online gaming in the wrong direction?. cause you have to pay?

GIVE ME A BREAK, PC gaming wouldn't even be where its at today if gamers weren't given it money. PC gaming is supported by the community, same goes for XBL,

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[QUOTE="ultraking"]I'm just glad that ms is taking online gaming in the right direction Who doesn't love paying to play online?Thuganomic05

My question is - who brought the payments up? As if it's been such a problem since the launch?

True, but both are great and have flaws.

I'm sure competition helps each company grow or be more productive, trying to have the best product, or service out there. Look at how Madden is just updating each installment little by little, mainly just updated rosters, and tweaking the game engine a bit. NFL2K's competition had Madden on the ropes, and if it was still around I guarantee you would see a much better Madden game currently.

[QUOTE="Thuganomic05"][QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"] Paying to play games online existed before MS introduced XBL.

mems_1224

I think XBL influences game development to the detriment of the single-player experience.ZombieKiller7

And if it wasn't for Sony and it's Playstation brand, MS wouldn't have a complete gaming division that popularized the market that made the 360 today.Bazooka_4ME

Turn back the clock; if it wasn't for Nintendo and it's gaming brand power during the 8bit and 16bit era, Sony wouldn't have created its own gaming division when previously the company was focused on media electronics (TVs, walkmans, CD players, etc...). And what got Nintendo into the business in the first place? That would be Atari.

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]And if it wasn't for Sony and it's Playstation brand, MS wouldn't have a complete gaming division that popularized the market that made the 360 today.AdobeArtist

Turn back the clock; if it wasn't for Nintendo and it's gaming brand power during the 8bit and 16bit era, Sony wouldn't have created its own gaming division when previously the company was focused on media electronics (TVs, walkmans, CD players, etc...). And what got Nintendo into the business in the first place? That would be Atari.

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[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]And if it wasn't for Sony and it's Playstation brand, MS wouldn't have a complete gaming division that popularized the market that made the 360 today.Ly_the_Fairy

Turn back the clock; if it wasn't for Nintendo and it's gaming brand power during the 8bit and 16bit era, Sony wouldn't have created its own gaming division when previously the company was focused on media electronics (TVs, walkmans, CD players, etc...). And what got Nintendo into the business in the first place? That would be Atari.

Every single console generation has brought loads of innovation. It is almost what defines a generation.

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[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]And if it wasn't for Sony and it's Playstation brand, MS wouldn't have a complete gaming division that popularized the market that made the 360 today.Ly_the_Fairy

Turn back the clock; if it wasn't for Nintendo and it's gaming brand power during the 8bit and 16bit era, Sony wouldn't have created its own gaming division when previously the company was focused on media electronics (TVs, walkmans, CD players, etc...). And what got Nintendo into the business in the first place? That would be Atari.

You mean how they copied from Nintendo, time and again?

Nintendo introduces shoulder buttons - Sony does same but with more
Nintendo introduces rumble pack - Sony adds it to theirs
Nintendo introduces first analog stick on gamepad - Sony follows suit
Nintendo goes with "tv remote" model of motion controller - helloooooo PS move

And then there's Sony's copying.... sorry, "innovation" of their entire online infrastructure that just happens to mirror that of Xbox Live (universal friends contact list, trophies, online store, arcade games, game demos, etc...).

I guess their innovation really IS incomprehensible :roll:

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Turn back the clock; if it wasn't for Nintendo and it's gaming brand power during the 8bit and 16bit era, Sony wouldn't have created its own gaming division when previously the company was focused on media electronics (TVs, walkmans, CD players, etc...). And what got Nintendo into the business in the first place? That would be Atari.

AdobeArtist

You mean how they copied from Nintendo, time and again?

Nintendo introduces shoulder buttons - Sony does same but with more
Nintendo introduces rumble pack - Sony adds it to theirs
Nintendo introduces first analog stick on gamepad - Sony follows suit
Nintendo goes with "tv remote" model of motion controller - helloooooo PS move

And then there's Sony's copying.... sorry, "innovation" of their entire online infrastructure that just happens to mirror that of Xbox Live (universal friends contact list, trophies, online store, arcade games, game demos, etc...).

I guess their innovation really IS incomprehensible :roll:

Complete and utter ownage. Bravo

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Turn back the clock; if it wasn't for Nintendo and it's gaming brand power during the 8bit and 16bit era, Sony wouldn't have created its own gaming division when previously the company was focused on media electronics (TVs, walkmans, CD players, etc...). And what got Nintendo into the business in the first place? That would be Atari.

AdobeArtist

You mean how they copied from Nintendo, time and again?

Nintendo introduces shoulder buttons - Sony does same but with more
Nintendo introduces rumble pack - Sony adds it to theirs
Nintendo introduces first analog stick on gamepad - Sony follows suit
Nintendo goes with "tv remote" model of motion controller - helloooooo PS move

And then there's Sony's copying.... sorry, "innovation" of their entire online infrastructure that just happens to mirror that of Xbox Live (universal friends contact list, trophies, online store, arcade games, game demos, etc...).

I guess their innovation really IS incomprehensible :roll:

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[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"] Pfft. The mere existance of the Playstation is more innovation than is comprehensibleLy_the_Fairy

You mean how they copied from Nintendo, time and again?

Nintendo introduces shoulder buttons - Sony does same but with more
Nintendo introduces rumble pack - Sony adds it to theirs
Nintendo introduces first analog stick on gamepad - Sony follows suit
Nintendo goes with "tv remote" model of motion controller - helloooooo PS move

And then there's Sony's copying.... sorry, "innovation" of their entire online infrastructure that just happens to mirror that of Xbox Live (universal friends contact list, trophies, online store, arcade games, game demos, etc...).

I guess their innovation really IS incomprehensible :roll:

Oh shoot, I missed the hyberbole, didn't I? :P :oops:

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[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"] Pfft. The mere existance of the Playstation is more innovation than is comprehensibletccavey2

You mean how they copied from Nintendo, time and again?

Nintendo introduces shoulder buttons - Sony does same but with more
Nintendo introduces rumble pack - Sony adds it to theirs
Nintendo introduces first analog stick on gamepad - Sony follows suit
Nintendo goes with "tv remote" model of motion controller - helloooooo PS move

And then there's Sony's copying.... sorry, "innovation" of their entire online infrastructure that just happens to mirror that of Xbox Live (universal friends contact list, trophies, online store, arcade games, game demos, etc...).

I guess their innovation really IS incomprehensible :roll:

Complete and utter ownage. Bravo

And if it wasn't for Sony and it's Playstation brand, MS wouldn't have a complete gaming division that popularized the market that made the 360 today.Bazooka_4ME