If Mass Effect and Halo 3 go to PC would there be a reason to own a 360?

I'm a big fan of PC gaming, but I bought a 360 to play Mass Effect this November instead of next November.

When KotoR came out, I had a xbox and a PC but I got the PC version since it wasn't released too much later after the xbox version (since it was published by Lucasarts instead of Microsoft)

oh yeah as for the monitor/tv argument. I play my PC games on my 40" 1080p bravia now that recent games support 16:9 1080p resolutions, like half life 2 and bioshock.

[QUOTE="RaveRabbid"]I was looking to solutions for my problem and there are none except spending gobs of money (atleast you didn't provide me any except convincing me to not upgrade my PC since I can play all the games I want in an internet cafe (which is a lie by the way and you haven't provided any proof after asking you a gazillion times). Yes I have money but not to waste.

Vandalvideo

Stop twisting my words. I never used innately and in my situation a PC is more impractical than a console and that is a FACT for me. As far as the internet cafe argument, it is flawed because it is contradictory to your whole statement. No I can't rent PC games at home but I can rent a whole PC (under strict guidelines).

But, there would be even less purpose for me to invest in a gaming rig. As you said, $10 and play all the games you want.......... which is a lie since you have not provided any proof of any place (ph. no. and address) in the U.S. providing such a service. I suggest you move on. You have waisted enough of my time. Not interested in anymore useless arguments. You replace one useless argument with another. Bravo...... Good Job........

Then your price for a reasonable gaming machine is wrong and not really 500-600 because without all that stuff I mentioned, it's NOT a computer.Why would I not include a monitor? When you purchase a console it's assumed youown a TV or else whybuy it. When you're building a computer a monitor is PART of the purchase.You can't useit without some sort of output device or else you'd just have a box with pretty lights in it. I also forgot to mention you need a motherboardAND case. So your $500 - $600 window just got smashedinto a thousand pieces. So please don't tell me you can build a decent "gaming rig" from scratch for around $500 - $600. Games today require a lot of resources and a cheap Emachine build ISN'T going to work. kingtito

[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"][QUOTE="kingyotoX"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="kingtito"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="kingtito"]This would be an upgrade and not really a build of a new PC. All I know if I easily spend 700-1000 almost every year just in upgrades. Basically 600-700 going towards the video card. I prefer most of my gaming on the PC but sometimes the simplicity of just popping in a game, turning on the TV and grabbing a controller just as much fun. Bill_McBlumpkin

How in the hell is a 7900gs, 1g of ram and e6600 CPU an entirely new PC????? Genius you realize that you still need

1. Monitor

2. HDD

3. Keyboard

4. Gaming mouse

5. OS software

So if all you're going is replacing the CPU, Video card and ram then it's called an UPGRADE. Last time I checked you can't get all of that stuff plus what you mentioned for 500-600. Why don't you ponder that for a while

lol good point with the moniter

The problem with the the whole monitor argument is that if you don't have a PC, the monitor is pretty much useless, but if you don't have a game console you can still us your tv.

Honsetly though, who doesn't have a PC monitor?

Including the price of a PC monitor in a PC setupis just as lame as including the price of a HDTV in a console setup(after all, you can play your 360 on a PC monitor in HD using a VGA cable.)

That being said, as I said before, it costs more to own/upgrade your PC than it does to purchase a new 360, the games are far more convenient (plug and play, none of this root kit/Securom/activation/fiddling with settings etc, nonsense.) The TC's original points were why own a360 when its biggest games make it to the PC eventually (Gears, Halo, Mass Effect,) my question is why own a PC if games like that are your primary reason for buying one? It makes no sense, the PC is more expensive and it can take up to 3 years for those games to make it over to it? By the time certain 360-first games make it to the PC the next iteration of the XBox will be on the horizon, and XBox players would have moved on to newer games.

That's not true. He's talking about building a brand new PC and not just an upgrade. If you're building a new PC it's assumed you don't have one. IF you don't have a PC then you wouldn't own a monitor. If that's the case then you would HAVE to factor in the price of a monitor. Most people have TV's be it HDTV's or regular SD so factoring in the price of the TV when buying a console isn't the same thing.

My point isif you're building a brand new PC and NOT upgrading, it's a hell of a lot more expensive than just buying a console.

But, there would be even less purpose for me to invest in a gaming rig. As you said, $10 and play all the games you want.......... which is a lie since you have not provided any proof of any place (ph. no. and address) in the U.S. providing such a service. I suggest you move on. You have waisted enough of my time. Not interested in anymore useless arguments. You replace one useless argument with another. Bravo...... Good Job........RaveRabbid

That's not true. He's talking about building a brand new PC and not just an upgrade. If you're building a new PC it's assumed you don't have one. IF you don't have a PC then you wouldn't own a monitor. If that's the case then you would HAVE to factor in the price of a monitor. Most people have TV's be it HDTV's or regular SD so factoring in the price of the TV when buying a console isn't the same thing. My point isif you're building a brand new PC and NOT upgrading, it's a hell of a lot more expensive than just buying a console. kingtito

This only makes sense if you want to wait a yr or 2 to play these games.

So as any self respecting person would say," this doesn't make a lick of sense"...

I 'd say this thread should have stop at like 2 post or something.

I give this thread a 1.3

HPPL3

This is the topic.

Someone lock this pathetic thread.

[QUOTE="kingtito"]Then your price for a reasonable gaming machine is wrong and not really 500-600 because without all that stuff I mentioned, it's NOT a computer.Why would I not include a monitor? When you purchase a console it's assumed youown a TV or else whybuy it. When you're building a computer a monitor is PART of the purchase.You can't useit without some sort of output device or else you'd just have a box with pretty lights in it. I also forgot to mention you need a motherboardAND case. So your $500 - $600 window just got smashedinto a thousand pieces. So please don't tell me you can build a decent "gaming rig" from scratch for around $500 - $600. Games today require a lot of resources and a cheap Emachine build ISN'T going to work. Vandalvideo

So tell me how is someone going to order all this without a PC to begin with???? The average personbuilding his own PC isn't going to order everything online.

Frankly those components aren't going to run games such as Bioshock better than the 360 would.

Yeah PCs can hook up to a TV assuming you have it near. Most people DON'T and wouldn't even think of hooking it up that way.

349 console >build your own PC any day of the week.

So tell me how is someone going to order all this without a PC to begin with???? The average personbuilding his own PC isn't going to order everything online. Frankly those components aren't going to run games such as Bioshock better than the 360 would. Yeah PCs can hook up to a TV assuming you have it near. Most people DON'T and wouldn't even think of hooking it up that way. 349 console >build your own PC any day of the week. kingtito

[QUOTE="kingtito"]That's not true. He's talking about building a brand new PC and not just an upgrade. If you're building a new PC it's assumed you don't have one. IF you don't have a PC then you wouldn't own a monitor. If that's the case then you would HAVE to factor in the price of a monitor. Most people have TV's be it HDTV's or regular SD so factoring in the price of the TV when buying a console isn't the same thing. My point isif you're building a brand new PC and NOT upgrading, it's a hell of a lot more expensive than just buying a console. Vandalvideo

True, but if most people actually did that monitors wouldn't exist. Also SDTV resolution is so very low.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="kingtito"]That's not true. He's talking about building a brand new PC and not just an upgrade. If you're building a new PC it's assumed you don't have one. IF you don't have a PC then you wouldn't own a monitor. If that's the case then you would HAVE to factor in the price of a monitor. Most people have TV's be it HDTV's or regular SD so factoring in the price of the TV when buying a console isn't the same thing. My point isif you're building a brand new PC and NOT upgrading, it's a hell of a lot more expensive than just buying a console. thirstychainsaw

True, but if most people actually did that monitors wouldn't exist. Also SDTV resolution is so very low.

[QUOTE="kingtito"]That's not true. He's talking about building a brand new PC and not just an upgrade. If you're building a new PC it's assumed you don't have one. IF you don't have a PC then you wouldn't own a monitor. If that's the case then you would HAVE to factor in the price of a monitor. Most people have TV's be it HDTV's or regular SD so factoring in the price of the TV when buying a console isn't the same thing. My point isif you're building a brand new PC and NOT upgrading, it's a hell of a lot more expensive than just buying a console. Vandalvideo

Really and how many people will hook up a computer to the TV??? Anything to back it up? Didn't think so.

No one will buy a PC w/o a monitor just to hook it up to the TV. I bet less than 1% of PC owners have it hooked up the way you suggest.

Like I said purchasing a monitor is a must and DOES factor in the final cost of building a PC. I know I know you can't grasp that concept yet. Say what ever you like to TRY and back up your previous post but you'll still be wrong.

Anyway I have a real game to play. Peace

Lately I've been contemplating whether or not I should buy a 360 and after listening to the recent Hotspot podcast I realised Mass effect is more than likely going to be ported to the PC as kotor was and Halo 1 and 2 are already on the Pc so there's really nothing stopping them from releasing halo 3 on the Pc too. And then I thought if all of the 360s big games (bioshock, Halo 3, Mass effect, Gears) end up going to the PC is there any point in owning a 360 or am I just better off buying a high end PC. I will probably end up getting the 360 because a good pc is expensive but do you guys think MS is making a wrong move by porting all of its big titles to another platform?MGS9150

Halo 3 will probably go to the PC, but why wait 2-3 years for it tocome to the PC?

Really and how many people will hook up a computer to the TV??? Anything to back it up? Didn't think so. No one will buy a PC w/o a monitor just to hook it up to the TV. I bet less than 1% of PC owners have it hooked up the way you suggest. Like I said purchasing a monitor is a must and DOES factor in the final cost of building a PC. I know I know you can't grasp that concept yet. Say what ever you like to TRY and back up your previous post but you'll still be wrong. Anyway I have a real game to play. Peacekingtito

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That's not true. He's talking about building a brand new PC and not just an upgrade. If you're building a new PC it's assumed you don't have one. IF you don't have a PC then you wouldn't own a monitor..

kingtito

Then how the Hell does he view and post in this forum so often, voodoo magic?!?!

And I never disagreed that PC gaming was more expensive. It is more expensive, hence my question "Why own a PC" if those games are your reason for owning one. That being said, factoring in the price of a monitor is foolish.

Lately I've been contemplating whether or not I should buy a 360 and after listening to the recent Hotspot podcast I realised Mass effect is more than likely going to be ported to the PC as kotor was and Halo 1 and 2 are already on the Pc so there's really nothing stopping them from releasing halo 3 on the Pc too. And then I thought if all of the 360s big games (bioshock, Halo 3, Mass effect, Gears) end up going to the PC is there any point in owning a 360 or am I just better off buying a high end PC. I will probably end up getting the 360 because a good pc is expensive but do you guys think MS is making a wrong move by porting all of its big titles to another platform?MGS9150

If Microsoft doesn't want Mac to get anymore marketshare, they should keep porting the games.

[QUOTE="Burnout_Player0"]if i've played all PS3's AAAs on my xbox whats the reason to own ps3?LastSamurai14

[QUOTE="kingtito"]Really and how many people will hook up a computer to the TV??? Anything to back it up? Didn't think so. No one will buy a PC w/o a monitor just to hook it up to the TV. I bet less than 1% of PC owners have it hooked up the way you suggest. Like I said purchasing a monitor is a must and DOES factor in the final cost of building a PC. I know I know you can't grasp that concept yet. Say what ever you like to TRY and back up your previous post but you'll still be wrong. Anyway I have a real game to play. PeaceVandalvideo

PCs can indeed hook up to a TV, but that requires a few specific components that people may or may not have. It also assumes people wish to keep their computer right next to their TV, which for a lot of people with multiple rooms, isn't the case. I don't see how this topic went from a debate about Halo 3 and ME on the PC to a war on whether or not everyone has a PC hooked up to their television (most people do not).

With PC gaming, anything can go wrong, such as programs conflicting and system requirements. With consols, it's ether the disc or the system.Legendaryscmt

and console's hardware goes wrong unlike pc, lasers die or they overheat or scratch disks.

Xbox 360: Pop in and Play

PC: Verify system requirements, download patches for the game and video card, install the game and pray that it works, play with the video settings for an hour (minimum), and play until you hit a game crashing bug. Rinse and repeat.

Berserker_2

pc pop it in once install and play. x360 hope it doesn't scratch your disk to bits, hope it doesn't over heat and get rlod. get rlod send it in to ms no gaming for 2 weeks while they fix it

[QUOTE="manningbowl135"]

If you don't want to buy a high end PC that will end up costing you much more than a 360, which is alot of console owners, then 360 is a good choice.

Vandalvideo

exactly every year the extra cost of console games pay for a new graphic card

What's the point of buying a gaming PC when you can play Oblivion, Bioshock, Flatout, Fallout3, HL2, Halo3, Mass Effect, Fable2, C&C TW, GRAW, GRAW2, R6 Vegas, CoD2, CoD3, CoD4, Dark Messiah etc etc, on a 360?

What's the point of buying a gaming PC when you can play Flatout, Halo3, Mass Effect, Fable2, CoD3, etc etc, on a 360?

SgtWhiskeyjack

List edited for games which are CURRENTLY 360 exclusives.

What's the point of buying a 360 when I can get Crysis, Company of Heroes, Supreme Commander, Armed Assualt, Spore, Simcity Societies, Tabula Rasa, World of Warcraft, Starcraft 2, World in Conflict, Medal of Honor:Airborne, Brothers in Arms, Unreal Tournament 3, Oblivion, Bioshock, Fallout3, HL2, C&C TW, GRAW, GRAW2, R6 Vegas, CoD2, CoD4, Dark Messiah etc etc on a PC? :|

[QUOTE="SgtWhiskeyjack"]

What's the point of buying a gaming PC when you can play Flatout, Halo3, Mass Effect, Fable2, CoD3, etc etc, on a 360?

dgsag

List edited for games which are CURRENTLY 360 exclusives.

What's the point of buying a 360 when I can get Crysis, Company of Heroes, Supreme Commander, Armed Assualt, Spore, Simcity Societies, Tabula Rasa, World of Warcraft, Starcraft 2, World in Conflict, Medal of Honor:Airborne, Brothers in Arms, Unreal Tournament 3, Oblivion, Bioshock, Fallout3, HL2, C&C TW, GRAW, GRAW2, R6 Vegas, CoD2, CoD4, Dark Messiah etc etc on a PC? :|

I was answering the TC post. So I was just turning his question around. The 360 has loads of other exclusives too.

[QUOTE="Burnout_Player0"]if i've played all PS3's AAAs on my xbox whats the reason to own ps3?LastSamurai14

If you have one HDTV it is impractical to your PC hooked up to it, if anyone else needs to use the computer or the TV. Really I'm going to sit there and surf the internet on my HDTV, and have everyone watch me. Stupid.

And those price lists you forgot the sound card, hard drive, and desktop speakers.

Vandal you have totally lost reality, an internet cafe is in no way as convenient as blockbuster. If you think I can only wonder about the life you live.

What's the point of buying a gaming PC when you can play Oblivion, Bioshock, Flatout, Fallout3, HL2, Halo3, Mass Effect, Fable2, C&C TW, GRAW, GRAW2, R6 Vegas, CoD2, CoD3, CoD4, Dark Messiah etc etc, on a 360?

SgtWhiskeyjack

It's a paper tiger and easy to tear down and only serves to put PC & 360 fans at odds with each other.

Come to think of it is another reason these threads keep being done by mad cows - just stop it already - the cats outa the bag ! ;)

Lately I've been contemplating whether or not I should buy a 360 and after listening to the recent Hotspot podcast I realised Mass effect is more than likely going to be ported to the PC as kotor was and Halo 1 and 2 are already on the Pc so there's really nothing stopping them from releasing halo 3 on the Pc too. And then I thought if all of the 360s big games (bioshock, Halo 3, Mass effect, Gears) end up going to the PC is there any point in owning a 360 or am I just better off buying a high end PC. I will probably end up getting the 360 because a good pc is expensive but do you guys think MS is making a wrong move by porting all of its big titles to another platform?MGS9150

Here is a quick thing you can say to yourself. There is absolutely been no annoucement for either those games to go toPC. Secondly if they do in fact come out for PC you will be waiting a long time for them to come out. I mean to sit here and make a decision on something thathasnt even been mentioned by anyone but fanboys is pretty ignorant.

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

yes.

i like splitscreen play that pc versions won't have.....

besides, i'd HATE to try to cram 4 people around my 19" monitor....:(

rdo

sounds like fun..

i get to disconnect all lines into my tower.

lug the tower into the next room.

hope i have the connections i need to use my hdtv.

balance a k/b and mouse on my lap while reclining in my favorite gaming chair.

somehow find more connections on my tower for 3 more controllers so my friends can play...

oooooo...that just ooozes "fun"...:roll:

i have no idea where you crawled from, but you should crawl back in...;)

and an insane balancing act.... and a tower modification to add 3 more controllers....

read next time.

thanks

great...so now i get to buy a hub? anything else i get to buy?:roll:

you hermits make me laugh..

it's just not as easy as you make it out to be...

why should i go thru all of this, when i can just push one button the the 360 and play...?

wth...

[QUOTE="rdo"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

yes.

i like splitscreen play that pc versions won't have.....

besides, i'd HATE to try to cram 4 people around my 19" monitor....:(

tango90101

sounds like fun..

i get to disconnect all lines into my tower.

lug the tower into the next room.

hope i have the connections i need to use my hdtv.

balance a k/b and mouse on my lap while reclining in my favorite gaming chair.

somehow find more connections on my tower for 3 more controllers so my friends can play...

oooooo...that just ooozes "fun"...:roll:

i have no idea where you crawled from, but you should crawl back in...;)

and an insane balancing act.... and a tower modification to add 3 more controllers....

read next time.

thanks

great...so now i get to buy a hub? anything else i get to buy?:roll:

you hermits make me laugh..

it's just not as easy as you make it out to be...

why should i go thru all of this, when i can just push one button the the 360 and play...?

wth...

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="rdo"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

yes.

i like splitscreen play that pc versions won't have.....

besides, i'd HATE to try to cram 4 people around my 19" monitor....:(

real_madrid_99

sounds like fun..

i get to disconnect all lines into my tower.

lug the tower into the next room.

hope i have the connections i need to use my hdtv.

balance a k/b and mouse on my lap while reclining in my favorite gaming chair.

somehow find more connections on my tower for 3 more controllers so my friends can play...

oooooo...that just ooozes "fun"...:roll:

i have no idea where you crawled from, but you should crawl back in...;)

and an insane balancing act.... and a tower modification to add 3 more controllers....

read next time.

thanks

great...so now i get to buy a hub? anything else i get to buy?:roll:

you hermits make me laugh..

it's just not as easy as you make it out to be...

why should i go thru all of this, when i can just push one button the the 360 and play...?

wth...

If you have one HDTV it is impractical to your PC hooked up to it, if anyone else needs to use the computer or the TV. >Vylence