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#1 DazKurupt
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He will be immortalized in gaming history. It reminds me of when superman died in comic not real life.

Its kinda sadto hear he may die , would make for a good story.Yet Iknow hes not real still ...Im not even a big halo fan ive only played with pals from time to time. Still:cry:

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I hope the convenant castrate him for being suck-box's face character. He deserves it for helping to sell such a faulty product.
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He will be immortalized in gaming history. It reminds me of when superman died in comic not real life.

DazKurupt

Superman died in real life too...now George Bush is in total power :(

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Wouldn't he be anyways?
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TC FTW. It will be epic. Whenever the hero dies, he lives on forever. Booyah.
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He will be immortalized in gaming history. It reminds me of when superman died in comic not real life.

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Are you suggesting that Superman is alive in real life?
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:|He's a vidoegame character, and not a very involved one either....get a grip.
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:|He's a vidoegame character, and not a very involved one either....get a grip.proof11102

what are you talking about?

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:|He's a vidoegame character, and not a very involved one either....get a grip.proof11102

Did you play ff7 and watch aeris die?

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[QUOTE="DazKurupt"]

He will be immortalized in gaming history. It reminds me of when superman died in comic not real life.

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Are you suggesting that Superman is alive in real life?

Yeah, he and Santa play poker every night with the Tooth Fairy. Her name is Eugenia.
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He needs a face for me to care. I'm not going to mourn the death of some ambiguous metal kermit the frog.
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He needs a face for me to care. I'm not going to mourn the death of some ambiguous metal kermit the frog.Vandalvideo

lol

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I hope the convenant castrate him for being suck-box's face character. He deserves it for helping to sell such a faulty product.ISA_Scum

ahahah nice. me too. it won't be that bad, all he did was grunt and say cliche lines.

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He needs a face for me to care. I'm not going to mourn the death of some ambiguous metal kermit the frog.Vandalvideo
Hmm. So you missed the memo where that suit gives him a certain mystique that makes the story that much more engaging?
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I hope the convenant castrate him for being suck-box's face character. He deserves it for helping to sell such a faulty product.ISA_Scum

wow come on man. when the pS2 had its problems people still loved it

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cows will somehow feel necessary to scream ownage
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He will be immortalized in gaming history. It reminds me of when superman died in comic not real life.

DazKurupt

And he was brought back. Much like there'll likely be several Halo spin-offs eventually. MC/John or no, they won't simply pull the plug on such a successful franchise.

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MC is so damn shallow, I seriously can't imagine how his death could have any impact. Unless he became really interesting in the third game (doubt it).
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]He needs a face for me to care. I'm not going to mourn the death of some ambiguous metal kermit the frog.musicalmac
Hmm. So you missed the memo where that suit gives him a certain mystique that makes the story that much more engaging?

I guess I did. It makes him just seem like a transparent character. I want a face. If his death scene involves a chest cut with his helmet rolling down a hill I will beat my local EB games sales clerk with a baseball bat. You hear it first.
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#21 bobby_king
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If anyone in the Halo-series should me immortalized, it's the Arbiter. Such character...
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]He needs a face for me to care. I'm not going to mourn the death of some ambiguous metal kermit the frog.Vandalvideo
Hmm. So you missed the memo where that suit gives him a certain mystique that makes the story that much more engaging?

I guess I did. It makes him just seem like a transparent character. I want a face. If his death scene involves a chest cut with his helmet rolling down a hill I will beat my local EB games sales clerk with a baseball bat. You hear it first.

Note to self- advise all my friends NOT to get jobs at EB games :lol: The MC being who he is, doing what he's doing, and the story surrounding him makes his anonymity quite engaging. If we see a face... it'll ruin him.
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[QUOTE="DazKurupt"]

He will be immortalized in gaming history. It reminds me of when superman died in comic not real life.

Jagazaar

And he was brought back. Much like there'll likely be several Halo spin-offs eventually. MC/John or no, they won't simply pull the plug on such a successful franchise.

They could still manage it. They'd just do a series of prequels.
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Yeah. And Solid Snake is gonna die...

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He will be immortalized in gaming history. It reminds me of when superman died in comic not real life.

Its kinda sadto hear he may die , would make for a good story.Yet Iknow hes not real still ...Im not even a big halo fan ive only played with pals from time to time. Still:cry:

DazKurupt

oh boy crying over a video game characters possible death how humilitating.

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I would rejoice with cheer and laughter.Greatest day ever if he dies, no more halo at all
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I would rejoice with cheer and laughter.Greatest day ever if he dies, no more halo at allGarchomPro
Greatest thing about having an amibguous lead character, another ambiguous lead character could step up.
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[QUOTE="DazKurupt"]

He will be immortalized in gaming history. It reminds me of when superman died in comic not real life.

Jagazaar

And he was brought back. Much like there'll likely be several Halo spin-offs eventually. MC/John or no, they won't simply pull the plug on such a successful franchise.

Ya they already working on a couple spin offs i believe peter jackson was involved in one if I recall correct.

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This is my opinion...so please dont flame. When or if MC dies in Halo3 he will not get immortalized. Why you ask? because we dont know MC. Superman was immortalized because we knew him. We knew what he stood for, where he came from, what he wanted to do. We knew the man behind the cape. As for MC we dont know anything about him. He doesnt even have a glimmer of persona in his character. So when he dies, he will not be remembered, but Halo will be remembered. The game has far more personality than its protagonist. Now, when David (Solid Snake) dies in MGS4 guns of the patriots...that will place him in legendary status. He was a human being with emotions. Always pondering the value of his life, and the decisions he makes. He is a damaged hero, which is sumthing alot of people can relate to. When he finally dies in the epic finally, people will remember the man (character?) over the game.
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#30 DazKurupt
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[QUOTE="DazKurupt"]

He will be immortalized in gaming history. It reminds me of when superman died in comic not real life.

Its kinda sadto hear he may die , would make for a good story.Yet Iknow hes not real still ...Im not even a big halo fan ive only played with pals from time to time. Still:cry:

kingyotoX

oh boy crying over a video game characters possible death how humilitating.

I dont cry IRL dont be ashamed of emotion anyway it whats makes you human.

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This is my opinion...so please dont flame. When or if MC dies in Halo3 he will not get immortalized. Why you ask? because we dont know MC. Superman was immortalized because we knew him. We knew what he stood for, where he came from, what he wanted to do. We knew the man behind the cape. As for MC we dont know anything about him. He doesnt even half a glimmer of persona in his character. So when he dies, he will not be remembered, but Halo will be remembered. The game has far more personality than its protagonist. Now, when David (Solid Snake) dies in MGS4 guns of the patriots...that will place him in legendary status. He was a human being with emotions. Always pondering the value of warm the value of his life, and the decisions he makes. He is a damaged hero, which is sumthing alot of people can relate to. When he finally dies in the epic finally, people will remember the man (character?) over the game.Viviath

Wow... you should really read the Halo-books :|

And those how have read the books have followed John since he was 6 years old. That will be legendary.

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This is my opinion...so please dont flame. When or if MC dies in Halo3 he will not get immortalized. Why you ask? because we dont know MC. Superman was immortalized because we knew him. We knew what he stood for, where he came from, what he wanted to do. We knew the man behind the cape. As for MC we dont know anything about him. He doesnt even half a glimmer of persona in his character. So when he dies, he will not be remembered, but Halo will be remembered. The game has far more personality than its protagonist. Now, when David (Solid Snake) dies in MGS4 guns of the patriots...that will place him in legendary status. He was a human being with emotions. Always pondering the value of warm the value of his life, and the decisions he makes. He is a damaged hero, which is sumthing alot of people can relate to. When he finally dies in the epic finally, people will remember the man (character?) over the game.Viviath

True but mgs story lines are notoriously hard to follow. So the masses know just as much about solid as they do master chief . They both are Icons . Legendary characters dont need personal story. Look at Mario.

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if halo 3 doesnt score atleast AAA, i will buy a ps3 and record it for all gamespot users to see.
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[QUOTE="Viviath"]This is my opinion...so please dont flame. When or if MC dies in Halo3 he will not get immortalized. Why you ask? because we dont know MC. Superman was immortalized because we knew him. We knew what he stood for, where he came from, what he wanted to do. We knew the man behind the cape. As for MC we dont know anything about him. He doesnt even half a glimmer of persona in his character. So when he dies, he will not be remembered, but Halo will be remembered. The game has far more personality than its protagonist. Now, when David (Solid Snake) dies in MGS4 guns of the patriots...that will place him in legendary status. He was a human being with emotions. Always pondering the value of warm the value of his life, and the decisions he makes. He is a damaged hero, which is sumthing alot of people can relate to. When he finally dies in the epic finally, people will remember the man (character?) over the game.bobby_king

Wow... you should really read the Halo-books :|

And those how have read the books have followed John since he was 6 years old. That will be legendary.

This "read the Halo books" junk needs to stop. I bought Halo for Xbox (360) ok! The game alone should tell the full story, or atleast a coherent story instead of half assing it and then telling the reader "hey, our story isnt crappy, you just gotta buy our books to understand it!" I can say with almost absolute certainty that the majority of people who play Halo have not read the books. Hence alot of people dont get the full story. This "read the book" junk is just an excuse for sloppy story telling.

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oh boy crying over a video game characters possible death how humilitating.

kingyotoX

And people crying over books/movies or whatever is acceptable? Feelings of sympathy/empathy are intangible, they don't discriminate for media formats, they do for stories.

People who like to look down on others for showing emotion towards an instance seems pretty shallow to me. But hey, I'm not normal, so I could be looking at this in a completely wrong light. *shrug*

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MC is cool but does anyone actually CARE about him on a deep personal level?

Not me. I mean...I have no idea who he is, where he comes from, or how I can relate to him in any way.

Not like a character like kratos which is developed really well so you can sympathize with him in some form or another.

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I will cry my damn eyes out if Master Chief dies.
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This "read the book" junk is just an excuse for sloppy story telling.

Viviath
Incorrect. The games tell the story quite well, but in an unconventional way. If you're not ready to listen to all the little bits and pieces, you'll miss out on the whole thing. Reading the books gives you more of what you've already been given. Bungie is masterful at telling a story.
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[QUOTE="Viviath"]This is my opinion...so please dont flame. When or if MC dies in Halo3 he will not get immortalized. Why you ask? because we dont know MC. Superman was immortalized because we knew him. We knew what he stood for, where he came from, what he wanted to do. We knew the man behind the cape. As for MC we dont know anything about him. He doesnt even half a glimmer of persona in his character. So when he dies, he will not be remembered, but Halo will be remembered. The game has far more personality than its protagonist. Now, when David (Solid Snake) dies in MGS4 guns of the patriots...that will place him in legendary status. He was a human being with emotions. Always pondering the value of warm the value of his life, and the decisions he makes. He is a damaged hero, which is sumthing alot of people can relate to. When he finally dies in the epic finally, people will remember the man (character?) over the game.DazKurupt

True but mgs story lines are notoriously hard to follow. So the masses know just as much about solid as they do master chief . They both are Icons . Legendary characters dont need personal story. Look at Mario.

I understand the story may seem overly contrived and may take several sun throughs of the game to understand, but thats irrelavent. Even if you understand absolutely nothing about what going on in the MGS story, you still know master chief. With Master chief its the present that is important. All of his major accomplishments have been achieved in-game allowing the ser to play them out. And even if you dont understand why he is killing his brother in MGS, you get a sense of the jaded relationship between the 2. And you also get a glimpse of his softer side as he communicates with the other characters. It doesnt matter what the story is, the interactions of the characters is what brings about Snake's persona.

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[QUOTE="bobby_king"]

[QUOTE="Viviath"]This is my opinion...so please dont flame. When or if MC dies in Halo3 he will not get immortalized. Why you ask? because we dont know MC. Superman was immortalized because we knew him. We knew what he stood for, where he came from, what he wanted to do. We knew the man behind the cape. As for MC we dont know anything about him. He doesnt even half a glimmer of persona in his character. So when he dies, he will not be remembered, but Halo will be remembered. The game has far more personality than its protagonist. Now, when David (Solid Snake) dies in MGS4 guns of the patriots...that will place him in legendary status. He was a human being with emotions. Always pondering the value of warm the value of his life, and the decisions he makes. He is a damaged hero, which is sumthing alot of people can relate to. When he finally dies in the epic finally, people will remember the man (character?) over the game.Viviath

Wow... you should really read the Halo-books :|

And those how have read the books have followed John since he was 6 years old. That will be legendary.

This "read the Halo books" junk needs to stop. I bought Halo for Xbox (360) ok! The game alone should tell the full story, or atleast a coherent story instead of half assing it and then telling the reader "hey, our story isnt crappy, you just gotta buy our books to understand it!" I can say with almost absolute certainty that the majority of people who play Halo have not read the books. Hence alot of people dont get the full story. This "read the book" junk is just an excuse for sloppy story telling.

Man that's the most pathetic thing I've read today. You can add to the Halo-story by reading the books - if you want to. So you can understand the whole story - if you want to. Apparently, you don't want to, so stop complaining about it when you're to lazy to care.

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[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]I would rejoice with cheer and laughter.Greatest day ever if he dies, no more halo at allVandalvideo
Greatest thing about having an amibguous lead character, another ambiguous lead character could step up.

his son????!!!:o sorry bungie i couldnt help myself

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MC is cool but does anyone actually CARE about him on a deep personal level?

Not me. I mean...I have no idea who he is, where he comes from, or how I can relate to him in any way.

Not like a character like kratos which is developed really well so you can sympathize with him in some form or another.

Bread_or_Decide

Well some can see someone die and care simply on the level that they dont like watching a fellow die no matter if you know his story.

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[QUOTE="Viviath"]

This "read the book" junk is just an excuse for sloppy story telling.

musicalmac

Incorrect. The games tell the story quite well, but in an unconventional way. If you're not ready to listen to all the little bits and pieces, you'll miss out on the whole thing. Reading the books gives you more of what you've already been given. Bungie is masterful at telling a story.

No matter how ingenious and deep your story and characters are, if you cant express them clearly through your chosen medium, it is a waste. So while im sure the Halo books clear alot of things up, they should have taken care of that in the game. I mean how the hell can u leave out character development of your main character from your game!? that is just disgusting. You can argue about the story, but lack of character development for master chief ingame is the most abysmal thing i have ever witnessed when it comes to story telling.

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it will be an end of an era
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Viviath"]

This "read the book" junk is just an excuse for sloppy story telling.

Viviath

Incorrect. The games tell the story quite well, but in an unconventional way. If you're not ready to listen to all the little bits and pieces, you'll miss out on the whole thing. Reading the books gives you more of what you've already been given. Bungie is masterful at telling a story.

No matter how ingenious and deep your story and characters are, if you cant express them clearly through your chosen medium, it is a waste. So while im sure the Halo books clear alot of things up, they should have taken care of that in the game. I mean how the hell can u leave out character development of your main character from your game!? that is just disgusting. You can argue about the story, but lack of character development for master chief ingame is the most abysmal thing i have ever witnessed when it comes to story telling.

It could have been done intentionaly though so fans would watch the movie when it comes out and be excited to see if they reveal more about him.

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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Viviath"]

This "read the book" junk is just an excuse for sloppy story telling.

Viviath

Incorrect. The games tell the story quite well, but in an unconventional way. If you're not ready to listen to all the little bits and pieces, you'll miss out on the whole thing. Reading the books gives you more of what you've already been given. Bungie is masterful at telling a story.

No matter how ingenious and deep your story and characters are, if you cant express them clearly through your chosen medium, it is a waste. So while im sure the Halo books clear alot of things up, they should have taken care of that in the game. I mean how the hell can u leave out character development of your main character from your game!? that is just disgusting. You can argue about the story, but lack of character development for master chief ingame is the most abysmal thing i have ever witnessed when it comes to story telling.

Man that's the most pathetic thing I've read today. You can add to the Halo-story by reading the books - if you want to. So you can understand the whole story - if you want to. Apparently, you don't want to, so stop complaining about it when you're to lazy to care.

You can only blame yourself for not caring about him, because some do care about him. In their eyes, he'll be a legend when he dies, who are you to say that's wrong when you don't know what they do know?

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#47 Bread_or_Decide
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The "read the books" comment is valid but unfortunately it can come off as a cop-out for the games inability to tell its story properly. For die hards reading the book is a no brainer but for someone like me who just played the games how come after2 games I still know so little about MC?

MGS told you so much about snake in just the first game. Heck MGS3 goes as far as to give you the origin of big boss and have you sympathize with him as well. You can a sense of lineage with the snake clones and when you see snake put a gun to his mouth in the MGS4 trailer...well you understand why he might want to end it all.

The final shot in the Halo 3 trailer with MC looking down for a moment and the music gets lighter. Its like..wait...is this a glimpse of emotion? Cause...with that helmet on..who the heck knows. It was a real failure at copying the gears of war trailer.

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#48 Mordred19
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The MC won't die, he's the Jack Slater of video games. He could get stabbed in the chest with a plasma sword, and the field medic would say, "Is this some kind of joke? I wouldn't even call this a flesh wound."
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#49 redstormrisen
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MC is so damn shallow, I seriously can't imagine how his death could have any impact. Unless he became really interesting in the third game (doubt it).Chaos_Daro

He might not be and interesting Character to people who have only played the games but after reading the books. You see him turn rom a 6 year old who needs to win to an unstoppable (almost) killing machine. You see his relationship with cortana turn from an annoyance to a great freindship.

Those are the people who are going to care if he dies. People who don't care will enjoy playing the game sure. But the story will still not be as good unless you do. They are not essential but the sure to help.

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I hope the convenant castrate him for being suck-box's face character. He deserves it for helping to sell such a faulty product.ISA_Scum

My second ever post I read in system wars :shock:
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