If MS did what Sony did and dropped its price 100 dollars, game over for Sony?

[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

[QUOTE="garland51"]

Disagree. Sony has had more pricecuts than MS did for this entire gen, & then they realize that a $300 PS3 would get more PS3's selling. Not to mention that MS has had the same price of $200 & $300 for like, a year now when it's Sony who's been dropping prices just to play catch-up to the 360 in sales.

So who's really desperate here?

clone01

some people only see it their way, anyway good point.

Maybe you should blog it, or blog me since you think im 4 other people or whatever you think. :lol:, thanks for taking so time, and I will friend you on PSN since I see your cool sig.

[QUOTE="Kuromino"]

[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

This exactly, thanks for putting it much better than I did.

PrimusGears

If you read those links, you would see that the 360 is making a profit of approximately $75 US. So dropping the price of the console by $100 US wouldn't exactly be a smart idea; they would start losing approximately $25 off each console.

Looking at your responses and other posts, I'm getting the impression you truly want Sony to fail and have no choice but to pull out of the video game industry. If this is inaccurate, what exactly do you want to see from Sony?

I would like MS to put the pressure on the Sony, and I think this would be a way of doing it. It would collect the market share and would force Sony to drop its price and lose even more to stay competitive. I think Sony deserves no mercy since at the beginning of this gen they basically said MS would be a non factor and that isnt the case. All I see from Sony and its fanbase is a bunch of excuses. They continue to believe that the PS3 is doing better than the 360 and will in fact never give MS any kind of credit. WIth that being said, I say, try and deliver the knockout punch in 2010 and cement PS3 in last place for this gen.

I think you need to not concern yourself with what the PS3 fanboys are doing. They will never give credit to the Xbox360, just like the Xbox360 fanboys will never give credit to the PS3; and neither will give credit to the Wii. All fanboys talk trash about the competition; that's something that will never change. Ignore them if it bothers you so much. Praying for failure for Sony though is starting to get a bit extreme. Sony failing and having to pull out has the potential to hurt the video game industry badly.

This is fine and I will take that into consideration, but from my experience, I think the polling data is jaded since I feel SW is overrun by cows. Next Time I will add a poll or if I get time edit in a poll, thanks.

PrimusGears

do you really feel like you'd get any sort of honest poll on system wars? and, for the record, you seem to throw around the fanboy and cow moniker very loosely. might i suggest you take a look at your own posting history before passing such judgements?

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

some people only see it their way, anyway good point.

PrimusGears

Maybe you should blog it, or blog me since you think im 4 other people or whatever you think. :lol:, thanks for taking so time, and I will friend you on PSN since I see your cool sig.

[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="Ryan_Som"]

If the PS3 continues selling well and the 360 starts selling worse a 360 price cut will be a move of desperation, not domination. In that sense, they would be one in the same.

PrimusGears

Disagree. Sony has had more pricecuts than MS did for this entire gen, & then they realize that a $300 PS3 would get more PS3's selling. Not to mention that MS has had the same price of $200 & $300 for like, a year now when it's Sony who's been dropping prices just to play catch-up to the 360 in sales.

So who's really desperate here?

some people only see it their way, anyway good point.

Oh, I get it. Since I'm not agreeing with you I'm wrong, right? Fair enough.

I was in general agreement with whoever said that MS is currently turning a profit. This is true. Given that notion, any undercutting more than likely wouldn't happen unless the sales figures became too close for comfort in Microsoft's eyes in which case it would be a move of desperation. Even if a price cut doesn't provoke the projected spike in sales, it sparks interest in the product. In the long run, that can equal greater sales.

Microsoft dropped prices to match Sony's shortly after the release of the Slim. Now it's just a waiting game to see the who, what, and when of the next price cut is. I'm sure it's a long way off though.

[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

[QUOTE="Kuromino"]

If you read those links, you would see that the 360 is making a profit of approximately $75 US. So dropping the price of the console by $100 US wouldn't exactly be a smart idea; they would start losing approximately $25 off each console.

Looking at your responses and other posts, I'm getting the impression you truly want Sony to fail and have no choice but to pull out of the video game industry. If this is inaccurate, what exactly do you want to see from Sony?

Kuromino

I would like MS to put the pressure on the Sony, and I think this would be a way of doing it. It would collect the market share and would force Sony to drop its price and lose even more to stay competitive. I think Sony deserves no mercy since at the beginning of this gen they basically said MS would be a non factor and that isnt the case. All I see from Sony and its fanbase is a bunch of excuses. They continue to believe that the PS3 is doing better than the 360 and will in fact never give MS any kind of credit. WIth that being said, I say, try and deliver the knockout punch in 2010 and cement PS3 in last place for this gen.

I think you need to not concern yourself with what the PS3 fanboys are doing. They will never give credit to the Xbox360, just like the Xbox360 fanboys will never give credit to the PS3; and neither will give credit to the Wii. All fanboys talk trash about the competition; that's something that will never change. Ignore them if it bothers you so much. Praying for failure for Sony though is starting to get a bit extreme. Sony failing and having to pull out has the potential to hurt the video game industry badly.

well good points, I really dont wanna see PS3 fail though, I just wanna see the 360 really pull out so its not even a debate. I am a fanboy of the 360, but I will give the PS3 credit, and I do own a PS3 and games like Uncharted 2 I got day 1. thanks though as your points are really well put together and seem really sensible.

Maybe you should blog it, or blog me since you think im 4 other people or whatever you think. :lol:, thanks for taking so time, and I will friend you on PSN since I see your cool sig.

PrimusGears

and btw, what am i supposed to "blog?" i don't understand. i was merely making the observation that you seem to have a bias to MS, yet accuse other people of having a bias to Sony. what is worth blogging here?

[QUOTE="vistamanV5"]Sony continues too lose money on consoles... And there software sales have been rather lackluster. Heavy hitters like Killzone and U2 have disappointing sales when compared too the games one the xbox like the halos and fable and gears... History has shown that whoever can get too that magical sub first $200, $199.99.... They win,TheArmyGuy48

EDIT: BTW, the original Xbox says hai as well. You do realise the xbox dropped its price to $200 BEFORE PS2 did right?

[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]This is fine and I will take that into consideration, but from my experience, I think the polling data is jaded since I feel SW is overrun by cows. Next Time I will add a poll or if I get time edit in a poll, thanks.

clone01

do you really feel like you'd get any sort of honest poll on system wars? and, for the record, you seem to throw around the fanboy and cow moniker very loosely. might i suggest you take a look at your own posting history before passing such judgements?

No but he suggested it sO I was being polite, you can look at my posting history, but I never am really off base in what I say. I say things that actually have a basis. Im sorry if the 360 is doing better than the PS3 and I have material that I will spew. I am a proud lemming, and maybe if Sony and cows didnt talk so much at the beginning of this gen I might be a little more moderate in my threads, thanks for noticing what I write, feel free to track me.

[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

[QUOTE="vistamanV5"]Sony continues too lose money on consoles... And there software sales have been rather lackluster. Heavy hitters like Killzone and U2 have disappointing sales when compared too the games one the xbox like the halos and fable and gears... History has shown that whoever can get too that magical sub first $200, $199.99.... They win,Midnightshade29

very well said, so why doesnt MS go for the gusto in 2010. They have a better lineup of games and Natal so I think now is the time to stick the stake into the PS3 heart once and for all and focus on Nintendo which I dont think they will beat out this gen, but nonetheless make the PS3 a nonfactor.

I admit i dislike m$ practices, console software, and hardware , but even i recognize that with them Sony wouldn't have as robust a psn as it does right now without ms, and ms wouldn't have as good of a system either as they wouldn't need to update things. The price for the PS3 wouldn't be as cheap either... Its a great time to be a gamer.. but wanting a company to die is just dispecpable. Sony provides millions of jobs nad millons of entertainment to millions of fans around the world. with 20+ first party stuidios employing 100000's of people... You want those people to loose their jobs? You want no more Sony made games? Come on now!!! Nothing upsets me more than people who want a monopoly, especially a m$ run one. Only in the games industry do i ever hear anyone pro-monopoly.. It's sad, you guys need to learn a thing or two about how businesses work and how lack of competition hurts consumers.

I was going to say something along these lines. One of the best posts in this thread. Totally agree.

No competition = no incentive to improve.

[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

[QUOTE="garland51"]

Disagree. Sony has had more pricecuts than MS did for this entire gen, & then they realize that a $300 PS3 would get more PS3's selling. Not to mention that MS has had the same price of $200 & $300 for like, a year now when it's Sony who's been dropping prices just to play catch-up to the 360 in sales.

So who's really desperate here?

Ryan_Som

some people only see it their way, anyway good point.

Oh, I get it. Since I'm not agreeing with you I'm wrong, right? Fair enough.

I was in general agreement with whoever said that MS is currently turning a profit. This is true. Given that notion, any undercutting more than likely wouldn't happen unless the sales figures became too close for comfort in Microsoft's eyes in which case it would be a move of desperation. Even if a price cut doesn't provoke the projected spike in sales, it sparks interest in the product. In the long run, that can equal greater sales.

Microsoft dropped prices to match Sony's shortly after the release of the Slim. Now it's just a waiting game to see the who, what, and when of the next price cut is. I'm sure it's a long way off though.

To be honest, the Elite really wasn't considered a price drop at all; it's more like a replacement for the Pro model at the same price tag at $300.

[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

[QUOTE="garland51"]

Disagree. Sony has had more pricecuts than MS did for this entire gen, & then they realize that a $300 PS3 would get more PS3's selling. Not to mention that MS has had the same price of $200 & $300 for like, a year now when it's Sony who's been dropping prices just to play catch-up to the 360 in sales.

So who's really desperate here?

Ryan_Som

some people only see it their way, anyway good point.

Oh, I get it. Since I'm not agreeing with you I'm wrong, right? Fair enough.

I was in general agreement with whoever said that MS is currently turning a profit. This is true. Given that notion, any undercutting more than likely wouldn't happen unless the sales figures became too close for comfort in Microsoft's eyes in which case it would be a move of desperation. Even if a price cut doesn't provoke the projected spike in sales, it sparks interest in the product. In the long run, that can equal greater sales.

Microsoft dropped prices to match Sony's shortly after the release of the Slim. Now it's just a waiting game to see the who, what, and when of the next price cut is. I'm sure it's a long way off though.

[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

Maybe you should blog it, or blog me since you think im 4 other people or whatever you think. :lol:, thanks for taking so time, and I will friend you on PSN since I see your cool sig.

clone01

and btw, what am i supposed to "blog?" i don't understand. i was merely making the observation that you seem to have a bias to MS, yet accuse other people of having a bias to Sony. what is worth blogging here?

well the fact that you arent on subject since you havent spoken of anything that the thread details, other than who I am, or what I say. I am making an observation about you, regardless it doesnt matter about me, I am talking in theory anyway so take it with a grain of salt or dont take it anyway and stay off the thread.

[QUOTE="Ryan_Som"]

[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

some people only see it their way, anyway good point.

garland51

Oh, I get it. Since I'm not agreeing with you I'm wrong, right? Fair enough.

I was in general agreement with whoever said that MS is currently turning a profit. This is true. Given that notion, any undercutting more than likely wouldn't happen unless the sales figures became too close for comfort in Microsoft's eyes in which case it would be a move of desperation. Even if a price cut doesn't provoke the projected spike in sales, it sparks interest in the product. In the long run, that can equal greater sales.

Microsoft dropped prices to match Sony's shortly after the release of the Slim. Now it's just a waiting game to see the who, what, and when of the next price cut is. I'm sure it's a long way off though.

To be honest, the Elite really wasn't considered a price drop at all; it's more like a replacement for the Pro model at the same price tag at $300.

I dont know why they did away with the preminum as I thought it would sell great at 249.99.

[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] wow, that's kind of the pot calling the kettle black.clone01

Maybe you should blog it, or blog me since you think im 4 other people or whatever you think. :lol:, thanks for taking so time, and I will friend you on PSN since I see your cool sig.

cool Timdogg76

[QUOTE="clone01"]

[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]This is fine and I will take that into consideration, but from my experience, I think the polling data is jaded since I feel SW is overrun by cows. Next Time I will add a poll or if I get time edit in a poll, thanks.

PrimusGears

do you really feel like you'd get any sort of honest poll on system wars? and, for the record, you seem to throw around the fanboy and cow moniker very loosely. might i suggest you take a look at your own posting history before passing such judgements?

No but he suggested it sO I was being polite, you can look at my posting history, but I never am really off base in what I say. I say things that actually have a basis. Im sorry if the 360 is doing better than the PS3 and I have material that I will spew. I am a proud lemming, and maybe if Sony and cows didnt talk so much at the beginning of this gen I might be a little more moderate in my threads, thanks for noticing what I write, feel free to track me.

[QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"]

[QUOTE="vistamanV5"]Sony continues too lose money on consoles... And there software sales have been rather lackluster. Heavy hitters like Killzone and U2 have disappointing sales when compared too the games one the xbox like the halos and fable and gears... History has shown that whoever can get too that magical sub first $200, $199.99.... They win,HuusAsking

EDIT: BTW, the original Xbox says hai as well. You do realise the xbox dropped its price to $200 BEFORE PS2 did right?

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"] Sony has had fine software sales this year. Kas has already stated that they still make a profit overall even with the losses the PS3 sells at. Oh, and LOLWUT at that last part. Gamecube/dreamcast say hai.

EDIT: BTW, the original Xbox says hai as well. You do realise the xbox dropped its price to $200 BEFORE PS2 did right?

TheArmyGuy48

Its not game over, they will remain in 3rd place and keep making better exclusives than MS, lol.djsifer01

Microsoft is trying to profit from being in the video game business. Not end up broke like Sony.

reality is microsoft cant compete with sony at the same price point, ala the 200 dollar arcade period..........btw a 200 dollar ps3 can outsell the 360 easily PERIOD

reality is microsoft cant compete with sony at the same price point, ala the 200 dollar arcade period..........btw a 200 dollar ps3 can outsell the 360 easily PERIOD

Classic24

[QUOTE="vistamanV5"]Sony continues too lose money on consoles... And there software sales have been rather lackluster. Heavy hitters like Killzone and U2 have disappointing sales when compared too the games one the xbox like the halos and fable and gears... History has shown that whoever can get too that magical sub first $200, $199.99.... They win,PrimusGears

very well said, so why doesnt MS go for the gusto in 2010. They have a better lineup of games and Natal so I think now is the time to stick the stake into the PS3 heart once and for all and focus on Nintendo which I dont think they will beat out this gen, but nonetheless make the PS3 a nonfactor.

ahahaha 360 having better games than ps3

Being that MS is "actually" making a profit on each and every console being sold, it wouldnt be out of the question to drop the Elite to 199 in 2010. If this was the case, how bad would it beat Sony in sales? 3-1 is my call. We all know this might be a pipedream because we know MS isnt as desperate as Sony was when it had to drop its price to be competitive, but if MS wanted to be really aggressive I could see this move really cement them and their market share this gen.

PrimusGears

They already have..........go check ebay

I suspect a $250 dollar elite in 2010, along with Natal being pushed with the Arcade console.

I definetly wouldn't count Microsoft out in sales next year, if they make money off every console, and they lower prices even more, you know they're going to sell.

Halo Reach will be a system seller as well, especially if there is a limited Halo console with it like Halo 3

[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

[QUOTE="vistamanV5"] Sony could not compete with a $200 elite.TheArmyGuy48

they would have to drop its price and lose more money on their consoles.Do you think that this might be possible in 2010?

You don't understand business, knocking the competition out is the best business you can possibly have, if MS was to drop the 360 by $100, that would likely hurt Sony big time, MS can afford to do this, Sony does not have the pockets MS does.

[QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"][QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

they would have to drop its price and lose more money on their consoles.Do you think that this might be possible in 2010?

Nagidar

You don't understand business, knocking the competition out is the best business you can possibly have, if MS was to drop the 360 by $100, that would likely hurt Sony big time, MS can afford to do this, Sony does not have the pockets MS does.

Price really isn't the issue for the 360. Sure if they dropped the price they'd see a price surge, but overall the money loss they'd take is too great. This would hurt PS3 sales a little but if you want a PS3, you're going to buy a PS3 even if the 360 is $200.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"] so you think that MS (who is making profit right now) would start incuring a loss, end up loosing MILLIONS of dollars, just so they can brag about teh "PEWNAGE" on system wars? right. Also your assuming (wrongly) that the PS3 is going to sell at a loss forever, when they already said they are set to break even in the next 2 quarters.StealthMonkey4

You don't understand business, knocking the competition out is the best business you can possibly have, if MS was to drop the 360 by $100, that would likely hurt Sony big time, MS can afford to do this, Sony does not have the pockets MS does.

Price really isn't the issue for the 360. Sure if they dropped the price they'd see a price surge, but overall the money loss they'd take is too great. This would hurt PS3 sales a little but if you want a PS3, you're going to buy a PS3 even if the 360 is $200.

If someone walks into a store and sees a PS3 for $300, then they see a 360 Elite for $200, chances are, the 360 will win. That would definately hurt Sony, ALOT more than it would hurt MS, Sony cannot compare financially to MS. MS can handle something like that, Sony would be hurt pretty bad.

[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

[QUOTE="vistamanV5"] Sony could not compete with a $200 elite.TheArmyGuy48

they would have to drop its price and lose more money on their consoles.Do you think that this might be possible in 2010?

LOL link?

[QUOTE="Classic24"]

reality is microsoft cant compete with sony at the same price point, ala the 200 dollar arcade period..........btw a 200 dollar ps3 can outsell the 360 easily PERIOD

StealthMonkey4

They lose WAY more than $30....

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

You don't understand business, knocking the competition out is the best business you can possibly have, if MS was to drop the 360 by $100, that would likely hurt Sony big time, MS can afford to do this, Sony does not have the pockets MS does.

Nagidar

Price really isn't the issue for the 360. Sure if they dropped the price they'd see a price surge, but overall the money loss they'd take is too great. This would hurt PS3 sales a little but if you want a PS3, you're going to buy a PS3 even if the 360 is $200.

If someone walks into a store and sees a PS3 for $300, then they see a 360 Elite for $200, chances are, the 360 will win. That would definately hurt Sony, ALOT more than it would hurt MS, Sony cannot compare financially to MS. MS can handle something like that, Sony would be hurt pretty bad.

Yes, it would hurt Sony pretty bad, but MS as a company isn't aiming to just hurt the competition, they want to sell efficiently while maintaining a profit, sure it would hurt Sony but not significantly enough to make up for the financial loss of $100 from the profit they make with each system.

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

You don't understand business, knocking the competition out is the best business you can possibly have, if MS was to drop the 360 by $100, that would likely hurt Sony big time, MS can afford to do this, Sony does not have the pockets MS does.

Nagidar

Price really isn't the issue for the 360. Sure if they dropped the price they'd see a price surge, but overall the money loss they'd take is too great. This would hurt PS3 sales a little but if you want a PS3, you're going to buy a PS3 even if the 360 is $200.

If someone walks into a store and sees a PS3 for $300, then they see a 360 Elite for $200, chances are, the 360 will win. That would definately hurt Sony, ALOT more than it would hurt MS, Sony cannot compare financially to MS. MS can handle something like that, Sony would be hurt pretty bad.

Not to mention that there's the Arcade model also at $200, in which mostly casuals will go for. Also, MS has a lot more billions in their accounts than Sony. They could easily afford to buy out Sony if they wanted.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

Price really isn't the issue for the 360. Sure if they dropped the price they'd see a price surge, but overall the money loss they'd take is too great. This would hurt PS3 sales a little but if you want a PS3, you're going to buy a PS3 even if the 360 is $200.

garland51

If someone walks into a store and sees a PS3 for $300, then they see a 360 Elite for $200, chances are, the 360 will win. That would definately hurt Sony, ALOT more than it would hurt MS, Sony cannot compare financially to MS. MS can handle something like that, Sony would be hurt pretty bad.

Not to mention that there's the Arcade model also at $200, in which mostly casuals will go for. Also, MS has a lot more billions in their accounts than Sony. They could easily afford to buy out Sony if they wanted.

Well yea, MS has products like Windows OS, MS Word etc to make up for the losses....Sony has....TVs?

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"][QUOTE="Classic24"]

reality is microsoft cant compete with sony at the same price point, ala the 200 dollar arcade period..........btw a 200 dollar ps3 can outsell the 360 easily PERIOD

Yankees718

They lose WAY more than $30....

Last report I read said they lost (I think) $34 per system, rounded, $30.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

Price really isn't the issue for the 360. Sure if they dropped the price they'd see a price surge, but overall the money loss they'd take is too great. This would hurt PS3 sales a little but if you want a PS3, you're going to buy a PS3 even if the 360 is $200.

StealthMonkey4

If someone walks into a store and sees a PS3 for $300, then they see a 360 Elite for $200, chances are, the 360 will win. That would definately hurt Sony, ALOT more than it would hurt MS, Sony cannot compare financially to MS. MS can handle something like that, Sony would be hurt pretty bad.

Yes, it would hurt Sony pretty bad, but MS as a company isn't aiming to just hurt the competition, they want to sell efficiently while maintaining a profit, sure it would hurt Sony but not significantly enough to make up for the financial loss of $100 from the profit they make with each system.

MS should be able to easily make up for the small loss on each console from software sales, the more 360's there are on the market, the more the software will sell.

[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

If someone walks into a store and sees a PS3 for $300, then they see a 360 Elite for $200, chances are, the 360 will win. That would definately hurt Sony, ALOT more than it would hurt MS, Sony cannot compare financially to MS. MS can handle something like that, Sony would be hurt pretty bad.

Yankees718

Not to mention that there's the Arcade model also at $200, in which mostly casuals will go for. Also, MS has a lot more billions in their accounts than Sony. They could easily afford to buy out Sony if they wanted.

Well yea, MS has products like Windows OS, MS Word etc to make up for the losses....Sony has....TVs?

TVs, game consoles, phones, computers, and other various electronic devices.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

Price really isn't the issue for the 360. Sure if they dropped the price they'd see a price surge, but overall the money loss they'd take is too great. This would hurt PS3 sales a little but if you want a PS3, you're going to buy a PS3 even if the 360 is $200.

If someone walks into a store and sees a PS3 for $300, then they see a 360 Elite for $200, chances are, the 360 will win. That would definately hurt Sony, ALOT more than it would hurt MS, Sony cannot compare financially to MS. MS can handle something like that, Sony would be hurt pretty bad.

Not to mention that there's the Arcade model also at $200, in which mostly casuals will go for. Also, MS has a lot more billions in their accounts than Sony. They could easily afford to buy out Sony if they wanted.

[QUOTE="Yankees718"]

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"] And lose only about 130 dollars a console. :roll: Sony doesn't care about outselling the 360 if it'll garner no profits. The PS3 doesn't make a profit right now, but it only loses $30 per system, which can easily be made up by said PS3 owner buying a few games. IMO Sony should've dropped the price to $350 to make a profit on each system.StealthMonkey4

They lose WAY more than $30....

Last report I read said they lost (I think) $34 per system, rounded, $30.

They're selling it at $299 right?

So that would mean for the retailers to make a shred of profit they would be selling it at even a lower price...

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

If someone walks into a store and sees a PS3 for $300, then they see a 360 Elite for $200, chances are, the 360 will win. That would definately hurt Sony, ALOT more than it would hurt MS, Sony cannot compare financially to MS. MS can handle something like that, Sony would be hurt pretty bad.

Nagidar

Yes, it would hurt Sony pretty bad, but MS as a company isn't aiming to just hurt the competition, they want to sell efficiently while maintaining a profit, sure it would hurt Sony but not significantly enough to make up for the financial loss of $100 from the profit they make with each system.

MS should be able to easily make up for the small loss on each console from software sales, the more 360's there are on the market, the more the software will sell.

Still the PS3 managed to sell pretty good when it was a whopping $200 above the 360 and $350 above the Wii, if the 360 drops the price $100 don't expect a drastic sales plunge form Sony.

Boy how i would love to see TC own a business someday.

Slashing prices just for "teh ownage"

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

Yes, it would hurt Sony pretty bad, but MS as a company isn't aiming to just hurt the competition, they want to sell efficiently while maintaining a profit, sure it would hurt Sony but not significantly enough to make up for the financial loss of $100 from the profit they make with each system.

StealthMonkey4

MS should be able to easily make up for the small loss on each console from software sales, the more 360's there are on the market, the more the software will sell.

Still the PS3 managed to sell pretty good when it was a whopping $200 above the 360 and $350 above the Wii, if the 360 drops the price $100 don't expect a drastic sales plunge form Sony.

Doesn't matter, if MS dropped the price of the Elite to $200, that would put Sony in a bad position, big time bad.

Boy how i would love to see TC own a business someday.

Slashing prices just for "teh ownage"

brennan7777

Another killer comment, i have seen like 4 2day.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

Price really isn't the issue for the 360. Sure if they dropped the price they'd see a price surge, but overall the money loss they'd take is too great. This would hurt PS3 sales a little but if you want a PS3, you're going to buy a PS3 even if the 360 is $200.

garland51

If someone walks into a store and sees a PS3 for $300, then they see a 360 Elite for $200, chances are, the 360 will win. That would definately hurt Sony, ALOT more than it would hurt MS, Sony cannot compare financially to MS. MS can handle something like that, Sony would be hurt pretty bad.

Not to mention that there's the Arcade model also at $200, in which mostly casuals will go for. Also, MS has a lot more billions in their accounts than Sony. They could easily afford to buy out Sony if they wanted.

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

[QUOTE="Yankees718"]

They lose WAY more than $30....

Yankees718

Last report I read said they lost (I think) $34 per system, rounded, $30.

They're selling it at $299 right?

So that would mean for the retailers to make a shred of profit they would be selling it at even a lower price...

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

MS should be able to easily make up for the small loss on each console from software sales, the more 360's there are on the market, the more the software will sell.

Nagidar

Still the PS3 managed to sell pretty good when it was a whopping $200 above the 360 and $350 above the Wii, if the 360 drops the price $100 don't expect a drastic sales plunge form Sony.

Doesn't matter, if MS dropped the price of the Elite to $200, that would put Sony in a bad position, big time bad.

if they did drop the arcade to 99, and elite to 199 this christmas? then yeah sony would get destroyed unless they did the same.