If MS did what Sony did and dropped its price 100 dollars, game over for Sony?

[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

If someone walks into a store and sees a PS3 for $300, then they see a 360 Elite for $200, chances are, the 360 will win. That would definately hurt Sony, ALOT more than it would hurt MS, Sony cannot compare financially to MS. MS can handle something like that, Sony would be hurt pretty bad.

HuusAsking

Not to mention that there's the Arcade model also at $200, in which mostly casuals will go for. Also, MS has a lot more billions in their accounts than Sony. They could easily afford to buy out Sony if they wanted.

Not to mention MS failing to buy some smaller companies then Sony

Being that MS is "actually" making a profit on each and every console being sold, it wouldnt be out of the question to drop the Elite to 199 in 2010. If this was the case, how bad would it beat Sony in sales? 3-1 is my call. We all know this might be a pipedream because we know MS isnt as desperate as Sony was when it had to drop its price to be competitive, but if MS wanted to be really aggressive I could see this move really cement them and their market share this gen.

PrimusGears

nahh sony has a revenue of 79.618 billion and MS gets 58.437billion this year.

[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

Being that MS is "actually" making a profit on each and every console being sold, it wouldnt be out of the question to drop the Elite to 199 in 2010. If this was the case, how bad would it beat Sony in sales? 3-1 is my call. We all know this might be a pipedream because we know MS isnt as desperate as Sony was when it had to drop its price to be competitive, but if MS wanted to be really aggressive I could see this move really cement them and their market share this gen.

SLIisaownsystem

nahh sony has a revenue of 79.618 billion and MS gets 58.437billion this year.

And in terms of buyouts, Sony has a much smaller market cap. It's just that Sony as a whole is not worth the effort for Microsoft to buy out--too much baggage.

i could see the elite drop to 249.99 and the acrade down to 149.99.

but i doubt it will drop 100.

i really doubt if we even see another price drop this gen.

[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

Being that MS is "actually" making a profit on each and every console being sold, it wouldnt be out of the question to drop the Elite to 199 in 2010. If this was the case, how bad would it beat Sony in sales? 3-1 is my call. We all know this might be a pipedream because we know MS isnt as desperate as Sony was when it had to drop its price to be competitive, but if MS wanted to be really aggressive I could see this move really cement them and their market share this gen.

SLIisaownsystem

nahh sony has a revenue of 79.618 billion and MS gets 58.437billion this year.

i have high doubts sony made more money with microsoft this year. esp with windows 7 coming out

Then M$ Officially Wins. And the Cheapest Console In This GEN In The Market :PBloodSeeker1337

[QUOTE="BloodSeeker1337"]Then M$ Officially Wins. And the Cheapest Console In This GEN In The Market :Pfuromaster_99

[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]

[QUOTE="BloodSeeker1337"]Then M$ Officially Wins. And the Cheapest Console In This GEN In The Market :PBloodSeeker1337

[QUOTE="BloodSeeker1337"][QUOTE="furomaster_99"]Wins at what? Mediocrity? Let's see...Wii has the sales and uniqueness; ps3 has GOTY , best graphics, and most features; 360 has...umm, well...mediocrity and multiplats. :D

furomaster_99

[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

Being that MS is "actually" making a profit on each and every console being sold, it wouldnt be out of the question to drop the Elite to 199 in 2010. If this was the case, how bad would it beat Sony in sales? 3-1 is my call. We all know this might be a pipedream because we know MS isnt as desperate as Sony was when it had to drop its price to be competitive, but if MS wanted to be really aggressive I could see this move really cement them and their market share this gen.

SLIisaownsystem

nahh sony has a revenue of 79.618 billion and MS gets 58.437billion this year.

i could see the elite drop to 249.99 and the acrade down to 149.99.

but i doubt it will drop 100.

i really doubt if we even see another price drop this gen.

James161324

from a business front.

Sony can't afford to cut the price any more. They are finally not taking quater billion dollar looses each quater. A price cut would cause that agian.

A price cut by MS would also sent ms into taking looses on the 360. As they are making next to nothing on the 360.

If ms wanted to destroy sony. A price drop would be the way to do it.

But that would probley come with millions of dollars in looses in doing so.

a 249 or even 199 elite or just destory the ps3 sales.

But as it seem there is no plan to make a price drop any time in the near future. Maybe there will be a price cut in 2010. Maybe the walmart deal was a look in the future that the acrade may be 99.99 in the next years.

But no rumors are floating around so i doubt to see any prices cuts soon.

The earliest i would be looking for a price cut is right before natal comes out or when natal comes out.

from a business front.

Sony can't afford to cut the price any more. They are finally not taking quater billion dollar looses each quater. A price cut would cause that agian.

A price cut by MS would also sent ms into taking looses on the 360. As they are making next to nothing on the 360.

If ms wanted to destroy sony. A price drop would be the way to do it.

But that would probley come with millions of dollars in looses in doing so.

a 249 or even 199 elite or just destory the ps3 sales.

But as it seem there is no plan to make a price drop any time in the near future. Maybe there will be a price cut in 2010. Maybe the walmart deal was a look in the future that the acrade may be 99.99 in the next years.

But no rumors are floating around so i doubt to see any prices cuts soon.

James161324

People bought the PS3 a full $200 dollars above the 360. Yes, it would take some potential PS3 buyers from Sony but I wouldn't expect anything drastic.

[QUOTE="James161324"]

from a business front.

Sony can't afford to cut the price any more. They are finally not taking quater billion dollar looses each quater. A price cut would cause that agian.

A price cut by MS would also sent ms into taking looses on the 360. As they are making next to nothing on the 360.

If ms wanted to destroy sony. A price drop would be the way to do it.

But that would probley come with millions of dollars in looses in doing so.

a 249 or even 199 elite or just destory the ps3 sales.

But as it seem there is no plan to make a price drop any time in the near future. Maybe there will be a price cut in 2010. Maybe the walmart deal was a look in the future that the acrade may be 99.99 in the next years.

But no rumors are floating around so i doubt to see any prices cuts soon.

StealthMonkey4

People bought the PS3 a full $200 dollars above the 360. Yes, it would take some potential PS3 buyers from Sony but I wouldn't expect anything drastic.

The economy was lot better. But look at the sales. I think the ps3 would sell but thet 360 would probley out sell it week after week.

Sony came into this gen thinking they could sell a system for really what ever they wanted and their fanbase would buy it.

I really hope ms doesn't do the same next gen.

[QUOTE="SLIisaownsystem"]

[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

Being that MS is "actually" making a profit on each and every console being sold, it wouldnt be out of the question to drop the Elite to 199 in 2010. If this was the case, how bad would it beat Sony in sales? 3-1 is my call. We all know this might be a pipedream because we know MS isnt as desperate as Sony was when it had to drop its price to be competitive, but if MS wanted to be really aggressive I could see this move really cement them and their market share this gen.

James161324

nahh sony has a revenue of 79.618 billion and MS gets 58.437billion this year.

i have high doubts sony made more money with microsoft this year. esp with windows 7 coming out

http://www.geek.com/articles/games/sony-revenue-drops-13-loses-1-billion-for-the-year-first-time-in-14-years-20090514/

http://www.microsoft.com/msft/reports/ar09/10k_fh_fin.html

[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

If someone walks into a store and sees a PS3 for $300, then they see a 360 Elite for $200, chances are, the 360 will win. That would definately hurt Sony, ALOT more than it would hurt MS, Sony cannot compare financially to MS. MS can handle something like that, Sony would be hurt pretty bad.

furomaster_99

Not to mention that there's the Arcade model also at $200, in which mostly casuals will go for. Also, MS has a lot more billions in their accounts than Sony. They could easily afford to buy out Sony if they wanted.

Thats not far from the truth, MS COULD straight out buy Sony, but would it be worth it for them?

MS

Sony

Hell, MS just bought Yahoo, remember?

from a business front.

Sony can't afford to cut the price any more. They are finally not taking quater billion dollar looses each quater. A price cut would cause that agian.

A price cut by MS would also sent MS into taking looses on the 360. As they are making next to nothing on the 360.

If ms wanted to destroy sony. A price drop would be the way to do it.

But that would problaby come with millions of dollars in losses in doing so.

James161324

You got everything right, but the ones that I highlighted in bold. MS has been making a boatload of money off of 360's since late '06. They won't lose any money, ever. They'll make it all back through games, Live, & accessories, & they'll still profit off of each 360. They're in a good standing to do so.

Speaking of price drops, one or two things could happen. MS can either drop the price of both the Arcade & the Elite models by $50 each (making them $150 & $250), or they can just discontinue the Arcade model & drop the price of the elite down to $200.

MS has been making a boatload of money off of 360's since late '06. They won't lose any money, ever.

garland51

Post like that are why I come to system wars :lol:.

[QUOTE="James161324"]

from a business front.

Sony can't afford to cut the price any more. They are finally not taking quater billion dollar looses each quater. A price cut would cause that agian.

A price cut by MS would also sent MS into taking looses on the 360. As they are making next to nothing on the 360.

If ms wanted to destroy sony. A price drop would be the way to do it.

But that would problaby come with millions of dollars in losses in doing so.

garland51

You got everything right, but the ones that I highlighted in bold. MS has been making a boatload of money off of 360's since late '06. They won't lose any money, ever. They'll make it all back through games, Live, & accessories, & they'll still profit off of each 360. They're in a good standing to do so.

Speaking of price drops, one or two things could happen. MS can either drop the price of both the Arcade & the Elite models by $50 each (making them $150 & $250), or they can just discontinue the Arcade model & drop the price of the elite down to $200.

[QUOTE="garland51"]

MS has been making a boatload of money off of 360's since late '06. They won't lose any money, ever.

ownage_denied

Post like that are why I come to system wars :lol:.

[QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

[QUOTE="garland51"]

MS has been making a boatload of money off of 360's since late '06. They won't lose any money, ever.

HuusAsking

Post like that are why I come to system wars :lol:.

"They won't lose any money, ever." That's what's funny :lol:.

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]

[QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

Post like that are why I come to system wars :lol:.

ownage_denied

"They won't lose any money, ever." That's what's funny :lol:.

actually it wouldn't be that bad. I'd still have to buy the charging kit thing, wireless adapter, and pay for live.... The PS3 also has blu ray so technically PS3 is still a better deal...

after all these posts, i found out the this, x360 price cut will boost the x360 sales but it won't kill the PS3, at 299$ and so much value in the machine, PS3 will continue to sell but of course markdly lower than than the x360. However MS won't make such a step coz it won't risk that huge money waste, some thinks that MS is making alot of money since the introduction of the machine (no proof at all) but RRoD and the technical errors are also money consuming so we can just say MS makes money overall but not to the extent that it will risk a loss willingly ...............just imagine x360 (4 years old)that's priced as much as a PS2 (8 years oldor so)(99$), this is just not possibe.

Yes, I'd think so TC. $199 360 and it is indeed game over. I would still go with the PS3 though.

[QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]What's so funny? That's at least mostly fact. The 360 has been in the black since about late 2006. It's been three years since then and the price has only come down so much while the price for the components has kept coming down (since they're commodity parts, for the most part).

garland51

"They won't lose any money, ever." That's what's funny :lol:.

Give me a break. Like you know anything.:roll:

The irony in this post is killing me.

So, basically the Elite needs to come down another $100 already? Just making sure I understand lol

I'm not reading the whole thread. But actually its MS that does drop its price everytime the ps3 has lowerd its price. So infact what your saying is if MS wanted to look even more desperate they would need two price drops to one of Sony's. Cause it does look rather desperate than with in weeks or months of a ps3 price drop MS has one themselves. Once is a coincidence,but I think its happen now like atleast 2 times and a possible 3rd time. While MS drops theres and it takes a year or more for Sony to drop the ps3.

I'm not reading the whole thread. But actually its MS that does drop its price everytime the ps3 has lowerd its price. So infact what your saying is if MS wanted to look even more desperate they would need two price drops to one of Sony's. Cause it does look rather desperate than with in weeks or months of a ps3 price drop MS has one themselves. Once is a coincidence,but I think its happen now like atleast 2 times and a possible 3rd time. While MS drops theres and it takes a year or more for Sony to drop the ps3.

GreyFoXX4

If you ask me, It's Sony who's being desperate throughout most of this gen just to try to play catch up to the 360 in sales.:lol:

Correct me if I'm wrong Primus, but isn't the Arcade already 100 dollars cheaper than the PS3? Shouldn't it be game over for Sony nowthen?

Yes, I'd think so TC. $199 360 and it is indeed game over. I would still go with the PS3 though.

mr-krinkles

It's called the Arcade. :?

Is this site really international or just plain American ?

All i hear sounds pratriotic crap, you DO KNOW that JAPAN is also in the Globe right?

and you do KNOW that FF just hit big time right?

and you DO KNOW that the sales of xbox360 in japan are even more pathetic than PS3's in US right?

and you DO KNOW that in EU the sales are actually toe-on-toe right?

You really think the fact that xbox360 selling more on US, makes Ps3 dissapear? my. god.

The only ones desperate here are fanboys

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

I'm not reading the whole thread. But actually its MS that does drop its price everytime the ps3 has lowerd its price. So infact what your saying is if MS wanted to look even more desperate they would need two price drops to one of Sony's. Cause it does look rather desperate than with in weeks or months of a ps3 price drop MS has one themselves. Once is a coincidence,but I think its happen now like atleast 2 times and a possible 3rd time. While MS drops theres and it takes a year or more for Sony to drop the ps3.

garland51

If you ask me, It's Sony who's being desperate throughout most of this gen just to try to play catch up to the 360 in sales.:lol:

[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

I'm not reading the whole thread. But actually its MS that does drop its price everytime the ps3 has lowerd its price. So infact what your saying is if MS wanted to look even more desperate they would need two price drops to one of Sony's. Cause it does look rather desperate than with in weeks or months of a ps3 price drop MS has one themselves. Once is a coincidence,but I think its happen now like atleast 2 times and a possible 3rd time. While MS drops theres and it takes a year or more for Sony to drop the ps3.

FIipMode

If you ask me, It's Sony who's being desperate throughout most of this gen just to try to play catch up to the 360 in sales.:lol:

Is this site really international or just plain American ?

All i hear sounds pratriotic crap, you DO KNOW that JAPAN is also in the Globe right?

and you do KNOW that FF just hit big time right?

and you DO KNOW that the sales of xbox360 in japan are even more pathetic than PS3's in US right?

and you DO KNOW that in EU the sales are actually toe-on-toe right?

You really think the fact that xbox360 selling more on US, makes Ps3 dissapear? my. god.

The only ones desperate here are fanboys

SionPT

Ehh, it's not really surprising. Nobody's ever accused the US of being globalists.

[QUOTE="TheArmyGuy48"][QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

no im not carign about ownage at system wars, im wondering why no just put away SONY as its main compeititor with a move like this and concentrate on the real leader Nintendo. Sony is on its last legs and cant even sell GOTY uncharted 2 at a good clip.

PrimusGears

come on dude, if you are ok with the sales of GOTY uncharted 2 then ok, but it is scary that a game that awesome doesnt sell at a better clip. YOu want sales, just look at HALO or even multiplat MW2 which killed the lowly PS3 in sales. SOmething is wrong when the software on the PS3 always is lackluster, but ok you are alright with this, and if u think that isnt delusional I dont know what is.

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

I'm not reading the whole thread. But actually its MS that does drop its price everytime the ps3 has lowerd its price. So infact what your saying is if MS wanted to look even more desperate they would need two price drops to one of Sony's. Cause it does look rather desperate than with in weeks or months of a ps3 price drop MS has one themselves. Once is a coincidence,but I think its happen now like atleast 2 times and a possible 3rd time. While MS drops theres and it takes a year or more for Sony to drop the ps3.

garland51

If you ask me, It's Sony who's being desperate throughout most of this gen just to try to play catch up to the 360 in sales.:lol:

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="garland51"]

If you ask me, It's Sony who's being desperate throughout most of this gen just to try to play catch up to the 360 in sales.:lol:

HuusAsking

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="FIipMode"] Then why is it Microsoft that always cuts their price so soon after Sony cuts their prices. :?Chutebox