If you have a good Gaming Rig PC you don't need a 360

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#51 skrat_01
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the opposite is also true if you have a 360 for gaming you dont need a gaming rig a good workstation will do the job just fine burning dvd browse internet the kind of work a pc is good at.:)legol1
If you simply stick a better video card, memory and cpu in your computer then there is no need for an xbox 360 - according to that logic.

Opposites dont really work.

It boils down to what you want, titles and experience wise.

However you can easily stick the two systems down and determine which is better of the two....

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#52 crunchUK
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actually 360 still has more AAAEs/AAes than ps3
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[QUOTE="_rock_"]Look dgsag I am not hear so say the PC has no good quality games. I just prefer playing my 360 more so. And I know I will own many more 360 games then PC. Im just saying the games that are avaliable on both xbox and PC I prefer on xbox so to me the xbox has more titles. I mainly just buy PC exclusives.skrat_01

Then why did you refute dgsag, when he corrected you to begin with?

[QUOTE="_rock_"]I just bought a brand new gaming PC but I game much more with my 360, There are plenty more games that I likedgsag

Fixed.

Thank you, skrat.

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Pretty Much

But Lemmings have convinced themselves that paying 50 bucks a year for online is a good thing. They've also convinved themselves that playing shooters with a pad is better

THe 360 caters primarily to 12 year old American boys, who know as much about gaming as the casuals that buy the Wii

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#55 legol1
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[QUOTE="legol1"]the opposite is also true if you have a 360 for gaming you dont need a gaming rig a good workstation will do the job just fine burning dvd browse internet the kind of work a pc is good at.:)skrat_01

If you simply stick a better video card, memory and cpu in your computer then there is no need for an xbox 360 - according to that logic.

Opposites dont really work.

It boils down to what you want, titles and experience wise.

However you can easily stick the two systems down and determine which is better of the two....

ok but imagine i have to change my mobo plus my harddrive. So in resume i have to buy a brand new pc to play new game but for a workstation like i said burn dvd and browse internet my old pc do a great job and my 360 for gaming its a realy good combo dont you see the opposite is also true you can have a low end pc for utility program and a 360 for gaming and be a totaly satisfied gamer.
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#56 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="legol1"]the opposite is also true if you have a 360 for gaming you dont need a gaming rig a good workstation will do the job just fine burning dvd browse internet the kind of work a pc is good at.:)legol1

If you simply stick a better video card, memory and cpu in your computer then there is no need for an xbox 360 - according to that logic.

Opposites dont really work.

It boils down to what you want, titles and experience wise.

However you can easily stick the two systems down and determine which is better of the two....

ok but imagine i have to change my mobo plus my harddrive. So in resume i have to buy a brand new pc to play new game but for a workstation like i said burn dvd and browse internet my old pc do a great job and my 360 for gaming its a realy good combo dont you see the opposite is also true you can have a low end pc for utility program and a 360 for gaming and be a totaly satisfied gamer.

Well motherboard depends on many variables, and hard drive, you can use the same. I think power supply would be a better example.

What I meant is that if you put down money for a new workstation computer, why not spend the little extra and raise the performance level fo the components to that of a reasonable gaming computer.

You can simply have a computer with those specs to be a totally satisfied gamer, or hell you could have a Wii, PS3, 360 and be a totally satisfied gamer. What satisfies you is ultimately your own opinion, but of course I understand the point you are making.

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Pretty Much

But Lemmings have convinced themselves that paying 50 bucks a year for online is a good thing. They've also convinved themselves that playing shooters with a pad is better

THe 360 caters primarily to 12 year old American boys, who know as much about gaming as the casuals that buy the Wii

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ok what?

I have a gaming PC
I prefer MODs with my online games
I Know damn well the Mouse and Keyboard are superior for FPS.

That said

The 360 has offered alot of great games that are both exclusive and multiplat for the console. The controller is very,very good for a ton of genres, and is good for FPS(not Mouse and Keyboard, god no its good but not fantastic)

The 360 from its library caters to a broad audience. Casuals, Shooter fans, RPG fans, Action, etc

Live is a scam. I agree(I pay for it, but I agree)

But that doesn't mean the 360 suddenly sucks or the gamers don't know crap.

The way i see it the 2 BIG platforms that really cover the big genres are the PC and 360.

and in that situation it comes down to do you want the best option possible- PC(but it is a bit expensive to get into at first)

or do you want something more conveniant, lower priced, but you get more restrictions and just the 2nd best platform(the 360).

that is all there really is.

the 360 is just 2nd fiddle to the PC....
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#58 legol1
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[QUOTE="legol1"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="legol1"]the opposite is also true if you have a 360 for gaming you dont need a gaming rig a good workstation will do the job just fine burning dvd browse internet the kind of work a pc is good at.:)skrat_01

If you simply stick a better video card, memory and cpu in your computer then there is no need for an xbox 360 - according to that logic.

Opposites dont really work.

It boils down to what you want, titles and experience wise.

However you can easily stick the two systems down and determine which is better of the two....

ok but imagine i have to change my mobo plus my harddrive. So in resume i have to buy a brand new pc to play new game but for a workstation like i said burn dvd and browse internet my old pc do a great job and my 360 for gaming its a realy good combo dont you see the opposite is also true you can have a low end pc for utility program and a 360 for gaming and be a totaly satisfied gamer.

Well motherboard depends on many variables, and hard drive, you can use the same. I think power supply would be a better example.

What I meant is that if you put down money for a new workstation computer, why not spend the little extra and raise the performance level fo the components to that of a reasonable gaming computer.

You can simply have a computer with those specs to be a totally satisfied gamer, or hell you could have a Wii, PS3, 360 and be a totally satisfied gamer. What satisfies you is ultimately your own opinion, but of course I understand the point you are making.

maybe im not clear my mobo already have the bigest cpu it can take my hardrive is not sata i have to change everything in order to play new games there no upgrade to be made on my old rig but for utility program its strong enough and 360 is a very not expensive gaming solution dont you think ? i have two choice a brand new pc for around 1000$ or a 300$ 360 ... easy choice.
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#59 jg4xchamp
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Anyway if you get a gaming PC do you really need a Wii or PS3? no not really. The library for the PC dwarfs the PS3 and Wii as well. And if we play "but the exclusives" game

Fine

Halo 3
Forza 2
Banjo Nuts and BOlts
Perfect Dark Zero
PGR 3, PGR 4
Viva Pinata Trouble in Paradise
Lost Odyssey
Star Ocean 4
Tales of Vesperia
Infinite Undiscoverey
Ninja Gaiden 2
Dead Rising
Too Human
Gears of War 2(for now atleast)
Fable 2
Saints Row
and a bunch of others are only exclusive to the 360

Plus there are the multiplats that PC didn't get

like
Virtua Fighter 5
Soul Caliber 4
Burnout Paradise(not sure why on this one)
The Darkness(how the hell did this not go on PC?)

If anything the 360 has offered a PC gamer far more than the PS3 and Wii so far.
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maybe im not clear my mobo already have the bigest cpu it can take my hardrive is not sata i have to change everything in order to play new games there no upgrade to be made on my old rig but for utility program its strong enough and 360 is a very not expensive gaming solution dont you think ? i have two choice a brand new pc for around 1000$ or a 300$ 360 ... easy choice.legol1
I gutted my PC completely for the price of a PS3 here. A computer for gaming, applications, work and multimedia entertainment. Go figure.

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[QUOTE="legol1"] maybe im not clear my mobo already have the bigest cpu it can take my hardrive is not sata i have to change everything in order to play new games there no upgrade to be made on my old rig but for utility program its strong enough and 360 is a very not expensive gaming solution dont you think ? i have two choice a brand new pc for around 1000$ or a 300$ 360 ... easy choice.skrat_01

I gutted my PC completely for the price of a PS3 here. A computer for gaming, applications, work and multimedia entertainment. Go figure.

do you mean you built a new pc from scratch for 399$ where do you live ?
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[QUOTE="_rock_"]Look dgsag I am not hear so say the PC has no good quality games. I just prefer playing my 360 more so. And I know I will own many more 360 games then PC. Im just saying the games that are avaliable on both xbox and PC I prefer on xbox so to me the xbox has more titles. I mainly just buy PC exclusives.skrat_01

Then why did you refute dgsag, when he corrected you to begin with?

[QUOTE="_rock_"]I just bought a brand new gaming PC but I game much more with my 360, There are plenty more games that I likedgsag

Fixed.

Because I wanted to show him that the 360 had just as much quality titles.
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#63 aliblabla2007
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="_rock_"]Look dgsag I am not hear so say the PC has no good quality games. I just prefer playing my 360 more so. And I know I will own many more 360 games then PC. Im just saying the games that are avaliable on both xbox and PC I prefer on xbox so to me the xbox has more titles. I mainly just buy PC exclusives._rock_

Then why did you refute dgsag, when he corrected you to begin with?

[QUOTE="_rock_"]I just bought a brand new gaming PC but I game much more with my 360, There are plenty more games that I likedgsag

Fixed.

Because I wanted to show him that the 360 had just as much quality titles.

The real problem is that the 360 does not even have half the exclusive library that the PC has.

It's vastly outnumbered in exclusive games - the PC has over three times as many highly-rated exclusives, and has about represents half the genres in its exclusive library that the PC does.

In short, trying to do an on-paper comparison for libraries between ANY console and the PC is considered suicide.

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The 360 has offered alot of great games that are both exclusive and multiplat for the console. The controller is very,very good for a ton of genres, and is good for FPS(not Mouse and Keyboard, god no its good but not fantastic)

jg4xchamp

I think the the point being made is that if you own a PC the 360 is largely worthless

Other than a few exceptions every big name 360 game ends up on the PC, and you can use your controller with the PC as well.

Take away the 360 games that are also on the PC and you don't have much left. In fact I would rather not sell my Wii than buy a 360, It has far more exclusive coontent that would otherwise be unavailible to me, and with the recent announcement of GFW marketplace the 360 has become even less attractive

The 360 from its library caters to a broad audience. Casuals, Shooter fans, RPG fans, Action, etc

jg4xchamp

True. But it's not exactly revolutionising the action genre, casual games are better on Wii and the PC destroys it when it comes to RPGs and shooters



the 360 is just 2nd fiddle to the PC....jg4xchamp

Pretty much

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#65 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="_rock_"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="_rock_"]Look dgsag I am not hear so say the PC has no good quality games. I just prefer playing my 360 more so. And I know I will own many more 360 games then PC. Im just saying the games that are avaliable on both xbox and PC I prefer on xbox so to me the xbox has more titles. I mainly just buy PC exclusives.aliblabla2007

Then why did you refute dgsag, when he corrected you to begin with?

[QUOTE="_rock_"]I just bought a brand new gaming PC but I game much more with my 360, There are plenty more games that I likedgsag

Fixed.

Because I wanted to show him that the 360 had just as much quality titles.

The real problem is that the 360 does not even have half the exclusive library that the PC has.

It's vastly outnumbered in exclusive games - the PC has over three times as many highly-rated exclusives, and has about represents half the genres in its exclusive library that the PC does.

In short, trying to do an on-paper comparison for libraries between ANY console and the PC is considered suicide.

but so are the Wii and PS3 which are being beaten by the 360 in exclusives...so why is it the PC can only overrule a 360 and not the other 2....if anything the 360 still offers a PC gamer more quality exclusives than a Wii or PS3.
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The real problem is that the 360 does not even have half the exclusive library that the PC has.

It's vastly outnumbered in exclusive games - the PC has over three times as many highly-rated exclusives, and has about represents half the genres in its exclusive library that the PC does.

In short, trying to do an on-paper comparison for libraries between ANY console and the PC is considered suicide.

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Mainly because the PC library extends back to the 1980's.
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#67 aliblabla2007
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[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"]

The real problem is that the 360 does not even have half the exclusive library that the PC has.

It's vastly outnumbered in exclusive games - the PC has over three times as many highly-rated exclusives, and has about represents half the genres in its exclusive library that the PC does.

In short, trying to do an on-paper comparison for libraries between ANY console and the PC is considered suicide.

_rock_

Mainly because the PC library extends back to the 1980's.

See, the thing is, my references only include games from this generation. :|

Please research the topics you debate next time, okay?

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but so are the Wii and PS3 which are being beaten by the 360 in exclusives...so why is it the PC can only overrule a 360 and not the other 2....if anything the 360 still offers a PC gamer more quality exclusives than a Wii or PS3.jg4xchamp

Uh, the point of my post was to prove the guy wrong (he said that the 360 matches the PC for exclusives) not to say that the 360 is worse than the other consoles as a choice for a PC gamer, which I don't actually agree with.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] but so are the Wii and PS3 which are being beaten by the 360 in exclusives...so why is it the PC can only overrule a 360 and not the other 2....if anything the 360 still offers a PC gamer more quality exclusives than a Wii or PS3.aliblabla2007

Uh, the point of my post was to prove the guy wrong (he said that the 360 matches the PC for exclusives) not to say that the 360 is worse than the other consoles as a choice for a PC gamer, which I don't actually agree with.

oh....my bad.
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[QUOTE="blitzkid1"]Can i play Gears 2 this year on my pc ?C_BozkurT_C
no but next year you can :P

Still waiting on Halo 3.

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Still waiting on Halo 3.

dsmccracken

Play Crysis, Staker or the dozens of other quality shooters in the meantime

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I see arguments about the cost of the PC versus the cost of the 360.

I'll note here that I know that the 360 is a cheaper alternative to the PC, and that is one of the advantages of console gaming over PC gaming.



However the title of this topic isn't "The PC is better than the 360", the title is "If you HAVE a good gaming rig pc, you don't need a 360"

If your PC can run Crysis well, you really don't need a 360.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] but so are the Wii and PS3 which are being beaten by the 360 in exclusives...so why is it the PC can only overrule a 360 and not the other 2....if anything the 360 still offers a PC gamer more quality exclusives than a Wii or PS3.aliblabla2007

Uh, the point of my post was to prove the guy wrong (he said that the 360 matches the PC for exclusives) not to say that the 360 is worse than the other consoles as a choice for a PC gamer, which I don't actually agree with.

If your referring to me as "the other guy" then I was not saying the xbox 360 has more EXCLUSIVES then the PC just more games suited to ME and many other people who like a varity of games.
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I see arguments about the cost of the PC versus the cost of the 360.

I'll note here that I know that the 360 is a cheaper alternative to the PC, and that is one of the advantages of console gaming over PC gaming.



However the title of this topic isn't "The PC is better than the 360", the title is "If you HAVE a good gaming rig pc, you don't need a 360"

If your PC can run Crysis well, you really don't need a 360.

mstc_Q
and if you have low end pc for workstation and a 360 you dont need a gaming rig did you see the opposite is also true and cheaper alternative .
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="legol1"] maybe im not clear my mobo already have the bigest cpu it can take my hardrive is not sata i have to change everything in order to play new games there no upgrade to be made on my old rig but for utility program its strong enough and 360 is a very not expensive gaming solution dont you think ? i have two choice a brand new pc for around 1000$ or a 300$ 360 ... easy choice.legol1

I gutted my PC completely for the price of a PS3 here. A computer for gaming, applications, work and multimedia entertainment. Go figure.

do you mean you built a new pc from scratch for 399$ where do you live ?

Australia, A PS3 was $750-800 at the time of my PC overhaul, which was everything but the 160gb hdd and dvd/rw and case (all from my previous 3 year old computer, that was built on budget hardware when i first assembled it). Yes I did it myself.
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="_rock_"]Look dgsag I am not hear so say the PC has no good quality games. I just prefer playing my 360 more so. And I know I will own many more 360 games then PC. Im just saying the games that are avaliable on both xbox and PC I prefer on xbox so to me the xbox has more titles. I mainly just buy PC exclusives._rock_

Then why did you refute dgsag, when he corrected you to begin with?

[QUOTE="_rock_"]I just bought a brand new gaming PC but I game much more with my 360, There are plenty more games that I likedgsag

Fixed.

Because I wanted to show him that the 360 had just as much quality titles.

Well the thing is it doesent, as the lists show, and then you said 'I rather it because I rather the titles it delivers', which brings your argument right back to the first base, where dsasg corrected your statement
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[QUOTE="mstc_Q"]

I see arguments about the cost of the PC versus the cost of the 360.

I'll note here that I know that the 360 is a cheaper alternative to the PC, and that is one of the advantages of console gaming over PC gaming.



However the title of this topic isn't "The PC is better than the 360", the title is "If you HAVE a good gaming rig pc, you don't need a 360"

If your PC can run Crysis well, you really don't need a 360.

legol1

and if you have low end pc for workstation and a 360 you dont need a gaming rig did you see the opposite is also true and cheaper alternative .

A 360 isnt a PC alternative, unless it has the games you want on it.

I cant play Crysis, Stalker, CoH, The Witcher, ArmA, SoASE, ME:TW ect. ect. ect. on a 360.

I would know so, look at my sig.

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It's not a fair assumption to say multiplats are better on PC because of slightly improved graphics etc. Take gears of war for example where the online is basically dead. Some games just work better on console just like how TF2 is a joke on 360 compared to PC. I like the 360 because I can play games like Bioshock and Mass Effect without worrying about specs and also play **** like skate, ninja gaiden and lost odyssey which aren't on PC. I'm also not big fan of RTS (besides Blizzard games), Simulators, MMO's and genres like that.
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Well the thing is it doesent, as the lists show, and then you said 'I rather it because I rather the titles it delivers', which brings your argument right back to the first base, where dsasg corrected your statementskrat_01

If you didn't notice the argument started when he said "There's no way that 360 has had more quality releases than the PC since its launch"

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[QUOTE="mstc_Q"]

I see arguments about the cost of the PC versus the cost of the 360.

I'll note here that I know that the 360 is a cheaper alternative to the PC, and that is one of the advantages of console gaming over PC gaming.



However the title of this topic isn't "The PC is better than the 360", the title is "If you HAVE a good gaming rig pc, you don't need a 360"

If your PC can run Crysis well, you really don't need a 360.

legol1

and if you have low end pc for workstation and a 360 you dont need a gaming rig did you see the opposite is also true and cheaper alternative .

Yup, except in my case, the substitute is the PS3.

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#81 dgsag
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It's not a fair assumption to say multiplats are better on PC because of slightly improved graphics etc. Take gears of war for example where the online is basically dead. Some games just work better on console just like how TF2 is a joke on 360 compared to PC. I like the 360 because I can play games like Bioshock and Mass Effect without worrying about specs and also play **** like skate, ninja gaiden and lost odyssey which aren't on PC. I'm also not big fan of RTS (besides Blizzard games), Simulators, MMO's and genres like that.ZanyIce

I can always find at least 20 games...

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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Well the thing is it doesent, as the lists show, and then you said 'I rather it because I rather the titles it delivers', which brings your argument right back to the first base, where dsasg corrected your statement_rock_

If you didn't notice the argument started when he said "There's no way that 360 has had more quality releases than the PC since its launch"

.... and he was correct.

Fact is the PC has had far more quality titles since the 360 was released.

As he said, if you rather what the 360 offers, that is fine as it is your opinion.

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#83 _rock_
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[QUOTE="_rock_"]

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Well the thing is it doesent, as the lists show, and then you said 'I rather it because I rather the titles it delivers', which brings your argument right back to the first base, where dsasg corrected your statementskrat_01

If you didn't notice the argument started when he said "There's no way that 360 has had more quality releases than the PC since its launch"

.... and he was correct.

Fact is the PC has had far more quality titles since the 360 was released.

As he said, if you rather what the 360 offers, that is fine as it is your opinion.

As it is your opinion to say that the PC has had better quality releases since the 360 release.
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#84 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="_rock_"]

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Well the thing is it doesent, as the lists show, and then you said 'I rather it because I rather the titles it delivers', which brings your argument right back to the first base, where dsasg corrected your statement_rock_

If you didn't notice the argument started when he said "There's no way that 360 has had more quality releases than the PC since its launch"

.... and he was correct.

Fact is the PC has had far more quality titles since the 360 was released.

As he said, if you rather what the 360 offers, that is fine as it is your opinion.

As it is your opinion to say that the PC has had better quality releases since the 360 release.

No its not my opinion its critical opinion, which is what the whole argument on sw is dictated by. For instance gamespot:

PC
AAA:17 AAAE:9
AA:81 AAE:55

360
AAAA:1 (soon to be on PC)
AAA:14 AAAE:4
AA:4 AAE:10

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p7pcq78sddbXfN0A-LjKWEA&gid=1

Heck go checkout gamerankings or metacritic for similar results.

This is simply how we dicatate which system is better.

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#85 _rock_
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I was not basing my opinion purley on critic scores. You also need to look at user scores to see what the community think of the game. People say Crysis recived a rediculiously high score others think GTA 4. In the end it dose come down to your opinion on what system has the best games. I may not like a few genres which may contain half of the PC's AAA titles. People fight over these things because they mainly base there stats on different aspects.
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#86 crunchUK
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[QUOTE="ZanyIce"]It's not a fair assumption to say multiplats are better on PC because of slightly improved graphics etc. Take gears of war for example where the online is basically dead. Some games just work better on console just like how TF2 is a joke on 360 compared to PC. I like the 360 because I can play games like Bioshock and Mass Effect without worrying about specs and also play **** like skate, ninja gaiden and lost odyssey which aren't on PC. I'm also not big fan of RTS (besides Blizzard games), Simulators, MMO's and genres like that.dgsag

I can always find at least 20 games...

more to the point it is 4th most played on XBL... after 2 years... what an epic fail :roll:

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#87 dgsag
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[QUOTE="dgsag"]

[QUOTE="ZanyIce"]It's not a fair assumption to say multiplats are better on PC because of slightly improved graphics etc. Take gears of war for example where the online is basically dead. Some games just work better on console just like how TF2 is a joke on 360 compared to PC. I like the 360 because I can play games like Bioshock and Mass Effect without worrying about specs and also play **** like skate, ninja gaiden and lost odyssey which aren't on PC. I'm also not big fan of RTS (besides Blizzard games), Simulators, MMO's and genres like that.crunchUK

I can always find at least 20 games...

more to the point it is 4th most played on XBL... after 2 years... what an epic fail :roll:

That doesn't mean its dead.

Counterstrike has 140,000 players currently on after 10 years, epic fail. :roll:

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#88 mo0ksi
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There are some 360 games that aren't on PC. So yeah a 360 could be useful.

For me though it's just that aside from Ninja Gaiden 2 and Banjo: Nuts and Bolts, there's no reason for me to get a 360. There's nothing else that appeals to me and there's no way that I'll ever buy a console for just 2 games.

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#89 crunchUK
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[QUOTE="crunchUK"][QUOTE="dgsag"]

[QUOTE="ZanyIce"]It's not a fair assumption to say multiplats are better on PC because of slightly improved graphics etc. Take gears of war for example where the online is basically dead. Some games just work better on console just like how TF2 is a joke on 360 compared to PC. I like the 360 because I can play games like Bioshock and Mass Effect without worrying about specs and also play **** like skate, ninja gaiden and lost odyssey which aren't on PC. I'm also not big fan of RTS (besides Blizzard games), Simulators, MMO's and genres like that.dgsag

I can always find at least 20 games...

more to the point it is 4th most played on XBL... after 2 years... what an epic fail :roll:

That doesn't mean its dead.

Counterstrike has 140,000 players currently on after 10 years, epic fail. :roll:

err that was my whole point. that guy said it was basically dead on 360 when it's the 4th most played game over XBL

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#90 Philmon
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Anyway if you get a gaming PC do you really need a Wii or PS3? no not really. The library for the PC dwarfs the PS3 and Wii as well. And if we play "but the exclusives" game

Fine

Halo 3
Forza 2
Banjo Nuts and BOlts
Perfect Dark Zero
PGR 3, PGR 4
Viva Pinata Trouble in Paradise
Lost Odyssey
Star Ocean 4
Tales of Vesperia
Infinite Undiscoverey
Ninja Gaiden 2
Dead Rising
Too Human
Gears of War 2(for now atleast)
Fable 2
Saints Row
and a bunch of others are only exclusive to the 360

Plus there are the multiplats that PC didn't get

like
Virtua Fighter 5
Soul Caliber 4
Burnout Paradise(not sure why on this one)
The Darkness(how the hell did this not go on PC?)

If anything the 360 has offered a PC gamer far more than the PS3 and Wii so far. jg4xchamp

There is no point in comparing 360 AAAE and AAE game library to the PC simply because it is way ahead. I mean the PC has only 5 less AAAE that the total number of 360 AAA, and only 11 less AAE than the total number of 360 AA, so even if you add the games that are not on the PC to the 360s exclusives list the PC would still be ahead.Not to mention that it works both ways and the PC would end up with additional AAAE and AAE.

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#91 Solidus_Mute
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I'm willing to bet that Fable 2 will be on the PC as well.

Some people just like playing on consoles, but if you have a gaming rig, that probably means you're fine with playing on your comp. The 360 is just an unupgradable PC in the end, since it's running windows practically anyway.

mstc_Q

Key word, "If".... which I don't. And I can't afford one. As the same for most people.

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#92 Dutch_Mix
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Hmm, well I have a 360 and a good gaming PC, and I love them both.

*rimshot*

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Anyway if you get a gaming PC do you really need a Wii or PS3? no not really. The library for the PC dwarfs the PS3 and Wii as well. And if we play "but the exclusives" game

Fine

Halo 3
Forza 2
Banjo Nuts and BOlts
Perfect Dark Zero
PGR 3, PGR 4
Viva Pinata Trouble in Paradise
Lost Odyssey
Star Ocean 4
Tales of Vesperia
Infinite Undiscoverey
Ninja Gaiden 2
Dead Rising
Too Human
Gears of War 2(for now atleast)
Fable 2
Saints Row
and a bunch of others are only exclusive to the 360

Plus there are the multiplats that PC didn't get

like
Virtua Fighter 5
Soul Caliber 4
Burnout Paradise(not sure why on this one)
The Darkness(how the hell did this not go on PC?)

If anything the 360 has offered a PC gamer far more than the PS3 and Wii so far. Philmon

There is no point in comparing 360 AAAE and AAE game library to the PC simply because it is way ahead. I mean the PC has only 5 less AAAE that the total number of 360 AAA, and only 11 less AAE than the total number of 360 AA, so even if you add the games that are not on the PC to the 360s exclusives list the PC would still be ahead.Not to mention that it works both ways and the PC would end up with additional AAAE and AAE.

that wasn't even my point.

Everybody says if you get a PC who needs a 360

My point is

if you get a PC who needs a PS3 or Wii is even more valid. Because the 360 still offers a PC gamer more exclusive games. I agree if there is 1 system to be had..it is the PC if we go by "quality exclusives"

But the PC just doesn't overrrule the 360 and PS3 and Wii are off the hook. No If anything PC dominates the other 2 much more than it dominates the 360. That was my point.
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#94 mudman91878
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To all the idiots posting games for the 360 that aren't on PC:

We know there exist games on the 360 that aren't on PC. Stop restating the obvious. The point is that so many of the 360 games are available (and better) on the PC that it isn't worth it to own a 360.

I completely agree. My 360 isn't even hooked up right now. I'll be selling it in the next week. It was, hands down, the least played console I've ever bought.

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#95 osan0
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i mostly agree with u TC. the 360 still has a few games of not that are not on PC like lost odyssey, forza series and PGR series....but between the shared MS games and multiplats.....the reasons for owning a 360 are fewer if u own and prefer playing on PC.

at the mo im playing LO so my 360 is busy again....but before that it was off for months. i just downloaded and played the odd demo from live...that was it.

after im finished LO....the only other game i might get this year for 360 is too human (unless that ends up on PC also). ill wait for gears 2 to appear on PC, and fable 2 will probably pop up also so ill wait for news on that. ME 2 and 3 will also be for my PC. a quick look at the european release schedule on eurogamer: fallout 3, far cry 2....PC for me. rise of the argonouts.....PC.

thats quite a few big hitters that my 360 wont be seeing. im not seeing much on the 360 list that i want and that wont be on PC. oh POP4....ill probably get that for 360 also.

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#96 skrat_01
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I was not basing my opinion purley on critic scores. You also need to look at user scores to see what the community think of the game. People say Crysis recived a rediculiously high score others think GTA 4. In the end it dose come down to your opinion on what system has the best games. I may not like a few genres which may contain half of the PC's AAA titles. People fight over these things because they mainly base there stats on different aspects._rock_
User scores count for what? They are skewed, people can rate any game a 10, or a 0, which is why we all look towards critical opinions, that are appraisals of the game.

If you rather titles on your xbox, fine, yes your purchase is ultimatley your opinion, however that doesent change the fact that the PC does deliver more quality titles.

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#97 legol1
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To all the idiots posting games for the 360 that aren't on PC:

We know there exist games on the 360 that aren't on PC. Stop restating the obvious. The point is that so many of the 360 games are available (and better) on the PC that it isn't worth it to own a 360.

I completely agree. My 360 isn't even hooked up right now. I'll be selling it in the next week. It was, hands down, the least played console I've ever bought.

mudman91878
so you say the game available on the 360 and not on pc are crap and game on pc not available on 360 are alot better than anything on 360 and multiplat are also better on pc so all 360 owner are idiot !!!!!!!!!!!!
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#98 Grive
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Anyway if you get a gaming PC do you really need a Wii or PS3? no not really. The library for the PC dwarfs the PS3 and Wii as well. And if we play "but the exclusives" game

Fine

Halo 3
Forza 2
Banjo Nuts and BOlts
Perfect Dark Zero
PGR 3, PGR 4
Viva Pinata Trouble in Paradise
Lost Odyssey
Star Ocean 4
Tales of Vesperia
Infinite Undiscoverey
Ninja Gaiden 2
Dead Rising
Too Human
Gears of War 2(for now atleast)
Fable 2
Saints Row
and a bunch of others are only exclusive to the 360

Plus there are the multiplats that PC didn't get

like
Virtua Fighter 5
Soul Caliber 4
Burnout Paradise(not sure why on this one)
The Darkness(how the hell did this not go on PC?)

If anything the 360 has offered a PC gamer far more than the PS3 and Wii so far. Philmon

There is no point in comparing 360 AAAE and AAE game library to the PC simply because it is way ahead. I mean the PC has only 5 less AAAE that the total number of 360 AAA, and only 11 less AAE than the total number of 360 AA, so even if you add the games that are not on the PC to the 360s exclusives list the PC would still be ahead.Not to mention that it works both ways and the PC would end up with additional AAAE and AAE.

Congratulations, you sidestepped the argument by stating the blindingly obvious, which he had acknowledged.

He stated two things:

1.- Under the OP's argument, both the PS3 and the Wii go out the wayside. Why pick on the 360?

2.- What if you want to play the 360's exclusives (along with multiplats the PC doesn't get)? That's the case of a lot of people. I want me Halo 3. I want me Dead Rising. I can go on. The PC and 360 do not fully overlap. You can justify the purchase of a 360 just by it's exclusives, even if you have a PC.

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#99 Philmon
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[QUOTE="Philmon"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Anyway if you get a gaming PC do you really need a Wii or PS3? no not really. The library for the PC dwarfs the PS3 and Wii as well. And if we play "but the exclusives" game

Fine

Halo 3
Forza 2
Banjo Nuts and BOlts
Perfect Dark Zero
PGR 3, PGR 4
Viva Pinata Trouble in Paradise
Lost Odyssey
Star Ocean 4
Tales of Vesperia
Infinite Undiscoverey
Ninja Gaiden 2
Dead Rising
Too Human
Gears of War 2(for now atleast)
Fable 2
Saints Row
and a bunch of others are only exclusive to the 360

Plus there are the multiplats that PC didn't get

like
Virtua Fighter 5
Soul Caliber 4
Burnout Paradise(not sure why on this one)
The Darkness(how the hell did this not go on PC?)

If anything the 360 has offered a PC gamer far more than the PS3 and Wii so far. jg4xchamp

There is no point in comparing 360 AAAE and AAE game library to the PC simply because it is way ahead. I mean the PC has only 5 less AAAE that the total number of 360 AAA, and only 11 less AAE than the total number of 360 AA, so even if you add the games that are not on the PC to the 360s exclusives list the PC would still be ahead.Not to mention that it works both ways and the PC would end up with additional AAAE and AAE.

that wasn't even my point.

Everybody says if you get a PC who needs a 360

My point is

if you get a PC who needs a PS3 or Wii is even more valid. Because the 360 still offers a PC gamer more exclusive games. I agree if there is 1 system to be had..it is the PC if we go by "quality exclusives"

But the PC just doesn't overrrule the 360 and PS3 and Wii are off the hook. No If anything PC dominates the other 2 much more than it dominates the 360. That was my point.

The thing is, going into the future I see more games coming out on the Wii/PS3 that are not on the PC in comparison to the 360. If I had to buy a console as a PC owner (putting aside personal prefrences for a sec), I would choose a console that is likely to have the most quality games that are not/will not be available on the PC and right now that choice looks like it will be between the PS3 and Wii. Yes right now the 360 has more exclusives, but look at the games in development for the PS3/Wii and you will see that they have a lot more exclusives coming out, while the 360's game are more than likely "timed exclusives".

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#100 Grive
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To all the idiots posting games for the 360 that aren't on PC:

We know there exist games on the 360 that aren't on PC. Stop restating the obvious. The point is that so many of the 360 games are available (and better) on the PC that it isn't worth it to own a 360.

I completely agree. My 360 isn't even hooked up right now. I'll be selling it in the next week. It was, hands down, the least played console I've ever bought.

mudman91878

Funny. You don't like "idiots" sending your argument down the drain?

To all the idiots posting games for the PC that aren't on the 360.

We know there exist games on the PC that aren't on 360. Stop restating the obvious. The point is that so many of the PC games are available on the 360 that it isn't worth it to own a PC.

I completely agree. My PC isn't even hooked up right now. I'll be selling it in the next week. It was, hands down, the least played system I've ever bought.

Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it?

The point all these "idiots" are making is that it can be worth it to have BOTH a PC and a 360. The 360 has enough exclusives to make it worth it under those alone. You're just spouting nonsense.

Your Brain, it's there for a reason.