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#201 aliblabla2007
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[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"][QUOTE="legol1"][QUOTE="mudman91878"]

First of all, learn how to write. Your post is almost unreadable.

Second, I didn't say ANY of that nor did I say anything that even remotely implied what you're claiming.

Grow the #$%^ up.

legol1

no my post is easyto read and you are upset because I'm right. you have a elitist speech and you hate console that's your problem .

Oh, once again a console fanboy cannot debate properly and instead resorts to insulting his opponent without supporting his argument! Why am I not surprised? :roll:

once again a hermit cant proove is point. so he insult peoples when they do not agree with him . why i am not surprised.

Ah, yet again you dodge your opponent because you can't frakking win the debate.

Prove my original statement wrong. Meaning show me where you proved mudman wrong. Now.

And no, calling someone an elitist does not qualify as winning the debate, in case that didn't get into your head last time.

Neither does "no my post is easyto read" count as a proper rebutal.

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#202 AlexKidd5000
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Can I play Banjo-Kazooie on a pc?LanDC77
Of course you can.
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#203 Saturos3091
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What if I enjoy my fighters and action games? PC doesn't have 'em. Exclusives are included as well in this argument, it all depends on what a person wants.
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#204 skrat_01
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If you're a pc gamer you don't have interest in consoles anyways.Senor_Kami
Hu?

Im a PC gamer and I have a 360 and PS3....

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#205 mastershake575
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="legol1"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="legol1"]the opposite is also true if you have a 360 for gaming you dont need a gaming rig a good workstation will do the job just fine burning dvd browse internet the kind of work a pc is good at.:)legol1

If you simply stick a better video card, memory and cpu in your computer then there is no need for an xbox 360 - according to that logic.

Opposites dont really work.

It boils down to what you want, titles and experience wise.

However you can easily stick the two systems down and determine which is better of the two....

ok but imagine i have to change my mobo plus my harddrive. So in resume i have to buy a brand new pc to play new game but for a workstation like i said burn dvd and browse internet my old pc do a great job and my 360 for gaming its a realy good combo dont you see the opposite is also true you can have a low end pc for utility program and a 360 for gaming and be a totaly satisfied gamer.

Well motherboard depends on many variables, and hard drive, you can use the same. I think power supply would be a better example.

What I meant is that if you put down money for a new workstation computer, why not spend the little extra and raise the performance level fo the components to that of a reasonable gaming computer.

You can simply have a computer with those specs to be a totally satisfied gamer, or hell you could have a Wii, PS3, 360 and be a totally satisfied gamer. What satisfies you is ultimately your own opinion, but of course I understand the point you are making.

maybe im not clear my mobo already have the bigest cpu it can take my hardrive is not sata i have to change everything in order to play new games there no upgrade to be made on my old rig but for utility program its strong enough and 360 is a very not expensive gaming solution dont you think ? i have two choice a brand new pc for around 1000$ or a 300$ 360 ... easy choice.

I just bought a brand new pc with a dual core and 2gigs of ram for $309. With $70 I got a HD3850 and a new powersupply so its not really $1000 but nice try. Try $380-$400 and can play pretty much any game on max. With $10-$15 cheaper games, on paper the best games even with higher standards, free online($50 a year your saving), better controlls (can choose controller if you perfer) and mods......your right the choice really is easy :|
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#206 dsmccracken
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well all teh greatest exclusives like gears of war , halo , mass effect...umm...ya all that stuff you can play on the pcReaperV7

You have Halo 3 on your PC? Oh, right, you're talking about Halo 1 from last gen... enjoy!

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#207 Phenom316
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Okay, PC Gaming is the best from facts. Its got my far the most Exclusives blah blah blah you know it all. But Xbox 360 has some awesome things also, some REALY awesome things. Sure, its no where NEAR as good as PC gaming but the thing is. Liking PC Gaming and having an awesome rig is like having your favorite food. Having an Xbox 360 also would be like having your second favorite food also.
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#208 VendettaRed07
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my friends dont play on pc so why would i care if those games are on pc as well?
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#209 wiistation360
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pgr and forza series must be fun on the pc
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#210 Kez1984
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You have Halo 3 on your PC?

dsmccracken

lol.

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#211 vashkey
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Can I play Banjo-Kazooie on a pc?LanDC77

Same here.

Can I play with all my friends who play exclusively with consoles on the PC?

Will Final Fantasy XIII, Star Ocean 4, Lost Odyssey, Rockband, Dragon Ball Z Burst Limit, Infinite Undiscovery, Dead or Alive 4, Soul Calibur 4, Street Fighter 4, Ninja gaiden 2, The Last Remnant, Too Human or Cry on be ported?

And what if I like Halo 3? It's going to be years before it's ported to the PC, by then not many people will care.

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#212 Kez1984
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Okay, PC Gaming is the best from facts. Phenom316

This is true.

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#213 ArisShadows
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I love my Dead Rising. Oh Wait. Thats okay I just stick in Lost Oddyess or maybe Blue Dragon. Shoot. Thats okay, we know games like Eternal Sonata, Soul Calibur 4, and Banjo-Kazooie are coming to the PC. ...
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#214 loudharley
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Considering i hate playing with a keyboard and mouse ill stick with the 36o.Dude everyone has a preference and if u prefer a computer over a console than rock that sh&%.I just prefer a console,nothing personal.Technically u dont really "need" a computer or 360 when u really think about it.
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#215 Jeimseu
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When I think about it, PC gaming is dead to me

There are no upcoming games I wantToriko42

Heh, thats the opposite to me.

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#216 _rock_
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Please show me how that ties in with "it has more games that I like". :roll:

aliblabla2007
My quote says just as much not more. And I didn't litrally mean the exact same amount. Just that the 360 had quality titles that can make people buy the console just for that game.
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#217 legol1
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[QUOTE="legol1"][QUOTE="aliblabla2007"][QUOTE="legol1"][QUOTE="mudman91878"]

First of all, learn how to write. Your post is almost unreadable.

Second, I didn't say ANY of that nor did I say anything that even remotely implied what you're claiming.

Grow the #$%^ up.

aliblabla2007

no my post is easyto read and you are upset because I'm right. you have a elitist speech and you hate console that's your problem .

Oh, once again a console fanboy cannot debate properly and instead resorts to insulting his opponent without supporting his argument! Why am I not surprised? :roll:

once again a hermit cant proove is point. so he insult peoples when they do not agree with him . why i am not surprised.

Ah, yet again you dodge your opponent because you can't frakking win the debate.

Prove my original statement wrong. Meaning show me where you proved mudman wrong. Now.

And no, calling someone an elitist does not qualify as winning the debate, in case that didn't get into your head last time.

Neither does "no my post is easyto read" count as a proper rebutal.

first if my post is unreadable how do you do to reply me ? second if you have invest a ton of cash in your gaming rig its obvious you are a pc gamer and you like pc more ,nobody here is surprise to see a hermit bashing a console . but when you say 360 exclusive do not worth the purchase of a 360 THIS IS YOUR OPINION nothing more .
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#218 legol1
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[QUOTE="legol1"][QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="legol1"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="legol1"]the opposite is also true if you have a 360 for gaming you dont need a gaming rig a good workstation will do the job just fine burning dvd browse internet the kind of work a pc is good at.:)mastershake575

If you simply stick a better video card, memory and cpu in your computer then there is no need for an xbox 360 - according to that logic.

Opposites dont really work.

It boils down to what you want, titles and experience wise.

However you can easily stick the two systems down and determine which is better of the two....

ok but imagine i have to change my mobo plus my harddrive. So in resume i have to buy a brand new pc to play new game but for a workstation like i said burn dvd and browse internet my old pc do a great job and my 360 for gaming its a realy good combo dont you see the opposite is also true you can have a low end pc for utility program and a 360 for gaming and be a totaly satisfied gamer.

Well motherboard depends on many variables, and hard drive, you can use the same. I think power supply would be a better example.

What I meant is that if you put down money for a new workstation computer, why not spend the little extra and raise the performance level fo the components to that of a reasonable gaming computer.

You can simply have a computer with those specs to be a totally satisfied gamer, or hell you could have a Wii, PS3, 360 and be a totally satisfied gamer. What satisfies you is ultimately your own opinion, but of course I understand the point you are making.

maybe im not clear my mobo already have the bigest cpu it can take my hardrive is not sata i have to change everything in order to play new games there no upgrade to be made on my old rig but for utility program its strong enough and 360 is a very not expensive gaming solution dont you think ? i have two choice a brand new pc for around 1000$ or a 300$ 360 ... easy choice.

I just bought a brand new pc with a dual core and 2gigs of ram for $309. With $70 I got a HD3850 and a new powersupply so its not really $1000 but nice try. Try $380-$400 and can play pretty much any game on max. With $10-$15 cheaper games, on paper the best games even with higher standards, free online($50 a year your saving), better controlls (can choose controller if you perfer) and mods......your right the choice really is easy :|

you are freaking hilarious ROFL no there noway i will beleive you maybe in fantasy land but in the real world you need a minimum of 1000$ to build a decent gaming rig from scratch .......!
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[QUOTE="LanDC77"]Can I play Banjo-Kazooie on a pc?vashkey

Same here.

Can I play with all my friends who play exclusively with consoles on the PC?

Will Final Fantasy XIII, Star Ocean 4, Lost Odyssey, Rockband, Dragon Ball Z Burst Limit, Infinite Undiscovery, Dead or Alive 4, Soul Calibur 4, Street Fighter 4, Ninja gaiden 2, The Last Remnant, Too Human or Cry on be ported?

And what if I like Halo 3? It's going to be years before it's ported to the PC, by then not many people will care.

Street Fighter 4 and Last Remnant are already confirmed.

Rockband lol :roll: I'm sure there will be a software to play any song you want using it soon enough.

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first if my post is unreadable how do you do to reply me ? second if you have invest a ton of cash in your gaming rig its obvious you are a pc gamer and you like pc more ,nobody here is surprise to see a hermit bashing a console . but when you say 360 exclusive do not worth the purchase of a 360 THIS IS YOUR OPINION nothing more .legol1

Do you understand the concept of "exaggeration"? It's not that your posts are unreadable, it's that they're damn hard to read (and I agree) to the point where people start saying that it's "unreadable" to stress the pure difficulty of it to get their point across better.

Besides, show me where mudman or I said that 360 exclusives to not make the 360 a worthwhile purchase - I have yet to see where either of us said that.

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#221 skrat_01
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you are freaking hilarious ROFL no there noway i will beleive you maybe in fantasy land but in the real world you need a minimum of 1000$ to build a decent gaming rig from scratch .......!legol1
I spent as much as a PS3 costs here, to completely upgrade my computer.

:|

Explain please.

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#222 _rock_
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[QUOTE="legol1"]you are freaking hilarious ROFL no there noway i will beleive you maybe in fantasy land but in the real world you need a minimum of 1000$ to build a decent gaming rig from scratch .......!skrat_01

I spent as much as a PS3 costs here, to completely upgrade my computer.

:|

Explain please.

:oSerious? my gaming desktop cost $3500 and laptop $2000.
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#223 legol1
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[QUOTE="legol1"]you are freaking hilarious ROFL no there noway i will beleive you maybe in fantasy land but in the real world you need a minimum of 1000$ to build a decent gaming rig from scratch .......!skrat_01

I spent as much as a PS3 costs here, to completely upgrade my computer.

:|

Explain please.

ok here in canada the ps3 cost 399$ for the 40gig and a 360 cost 350$ for the premium and i am not talking about upgrading my old rig i cant i have to build a new one from scratch and i cant do it under 1000$cdn this is what i mean .
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#224 vashkey
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[QUOTE="vashkey"]

[QUOTE="LanDC77"]Can I play Banjo-Kazooie on a pc?PC360Wii

Same here.

Can I play with all my friends who play exclusively with consoles on the PC?

Will Final Fantasy XIII, Star Ocean 4, Lost Odyssey, Rockband, Dragon Ball Z Burst Limit, Infinite Undiscovery, Dead or Alive 4, Soul Calibur 4, Street Fighter 4, Ninja gaiden 2, The Last Remnant, Too Human or Cry on be ported?

And what if I like Halo 3? It's going to be years before it's ported to the PC, by then not many people will care.

Street Fighter 4 and Last Remnant are already confirmed.

Rockband lol :roll: I'm sure there will be a software to play any song you want using it soon enough.

Good job. Two games. Im sure now I'll go buy a powerful computer, right?

Considering that right now the only exlusive PC game I want is Crysis, don't you think I'd be throwing a bag of cash out the window getting such a PC?

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#225 mo0ksi
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[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="vashkey"]

[QUOTE="LanDC77"]Can I play Banjo-Kazooie on a pc?vashkey

Same here.

Can I play with all my friends who play exclusively with consoles on the PC?

Will Final Fantasy XIII, Star Ocean 4, Lost Odyssey, Rockband, Dragon Ball Z Burst Limit, Infinite Undiscovery, Dead or Alive 4, Soul Calibur 4, Street Fighter 4, Ninja gaiden 2, The Last Remnant, Too Human or Cry on be ported?

And what if I like Halo 3? It's going to be years before it's ported to the PC, by then not many people will care.

Street Fighter 4 and Last Remnant are already confirmed.

Rockband lol :roll: I'm sure there will be a software to play any song you want using it soon enough.

Good job. Two games. Im sure now I'll go buy a powerful computer, right?

Considering that right now the only exlusive PC game I want is Crysis, don't you think I'd be throwing a bag of cash out the window getting such a PC?

Well there's your first problem. Crysis isn't that great of a game compared to other PC exclusives this gen.
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#226 PC360Wii
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[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="vashkey"]

[QUOTE="LanDC77"]Can I play Banjo-Kazooie on a pc?vashkey

Same here.

Can I play with all my friends who play exclusively with consoles on the PC?

Will Final Fantasy XIII, Star Ocean 4, Lost Odyssey, Rockband, Dragon Ball Z Burst Limit, Infinite Undiscovery, Dead or Alive 4, Soul Calibur 4, Street Fighter 4, Ninja gaiden 2, The Last Remnant, Too Human or Cry on be ported?

And what if I like Halo 3? It's going to be years before it's ported to the PC, by then not many people will care.

Street Fighter 4 and Last Remnant are already confirmed.

Rockband lol :roll: I'm sure there will be a software to play any song you want using it soon enough.

Good job. Two games. Im sure now I'll go buy a powerful computer, right?

Considering that right now the only exlusive PC game I want is Crysis, don't you think I'd be throwing a bag of cash out the window getting such a PC?

Yea Yea, im not bothering, I dont care what you do. the typical "I list all the console exclusives" then say "I only want 1 game for another system! Lozl!".

No thanks. not worth the effort, either way.

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#227 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="legol1"]you are freaking hilarious ROFL no there noway i will beleive you maybe in fantasy land but in the real world you need a minimum of 1000$ to build a decent gaming rig from scratch .......!_rock_

I spent as much as a PS3 costs here, to completely upgrade my computer.

:|

Explain please.

:oSerious? my gaming desktop cost $3500 and laptop $2000.

Wow you spent way to much.

I spent around $800 AUD, Ps3 was $750AUD here at the time - that was my whole system, minus the case, 160gb hdd and dvd rom drive (which I salvaged from my 3 year old computer - at the time).

I really dont recommend buying pre built, heck if you want value for money, start a thread in the pc hardware forum, get a hardware list, go down to the local comp store and have the folks there assemble it for you. All on the cheap.

ok here in canada the ps3 cost 399$ for the 40gig and a 360 cost 350$ for the premium and i am not talking about upgrading my old rig i cant i have to build a new one from scratch and i cant do it under 1000$cdn this is what i mean .legol1
Well price difference per region does change things, however im sure if you ask on the Pc tech forum, you can easily get a decent gaming computer, with similar specs - hell better specs - for a very good price.
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#228 legol1
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[QUOTE="legol1"] first if my post is unreadable how do you do to reply me ? second if you have invest a ton of cash in your gaming rig its obvious you are a pc gamer and you like pc more ,nobody here is surprise to see a hermit bashing a console . but when you say 360 exclusive do not worth the purchase of a 360 THIS IS YOUR OPINION nothing more .aliblabla2007

Do you understand the concept of "exaggeration"? It's not that your posts are unreadable, it's that they're damn hard to read (and I agree) to the point where people start saying that it's "unreadable" to stress the pure difficulty of it to get their point across better.

Besides, show me where mudman or I said that 360 exclusives to not make the 360 a worthwhile purchase - I have yet to see where either of us said that.

ok i will confess i am a french canadian and i suck when its time to write . and if i remember correctly i start to reply when someone call people who bring game only available on 360 a idiot and he also telling them every cross platform are better on pc so you dont have any reason to choose a 360 over a pc i find that offencive and elitist speech.
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#229 vashkey
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[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="vashkey"]

[QUOTE="LanDC77"]Can I play Banjo-Kazooie on a pc?mo0ksi

Same here.

Can I play with all my friends who play exclusively with consoles on the PC?

Will Final Fantasy XIII, Star Ocean 4, Lost Odyssey, Rockband, Dragon Ball Z Burst Limit, Infinite Undiscovery, Dead or Alive 4, Soul Calibur 4, Street Fighter 4, Ninja gaiden 2, The Last Remnant, Too Human or Cry on be ported?

And what if I like Halo 3? It's going to be years before it's ported to the PC, by then not many people will care.

Street Fighter 4 and Last Remnant are already confirmed.

Rockband lol :roll: I'm sure there will be a software to play any song you want using it soon enough.

Good job. Two games. Im sure now I'll go buy a powerful computer, right?

Considering that right now the only exlusive PC game I want is Crysis, don't you think I'd be throwing a bag of cash out the window getting such a PC?

Well there's your first problem. Crysis isn't that great of a game compared to other PC exclusives this gen.

Which is why you see I do not care for the PC so much.

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#230 _rock_
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Wow you spent way to much.

I spent around $800 AUD, Ps3 was $750AUD here at the time - that was my whole system, minus the case, 160gb hdd and dvd rom drive (which I salvaged from my 3 year old computer - at the time).

I really dont recommend buying pre built, heck if you want value for money, start a thread in the pc hardware forum, get a hardware list, go down to the local comp store and have the folks there assemble it for you. All on the cheap.

skrat_01

I got my custom made. But in that price it also included

Gaming keyboard logitech G15

Logitech G9 mouse

22" lcd screen

Logitech speackers

Multi function printer

$80 webcam

500 HD

Graphics card: Nvidia 8800 GT VR: 512mb.

Quad core prosessor

4 GB ram

Vista ultimate

So it was pretty much the whole set up which will last me awhile.

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#231 aliblabla2007
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[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"]

[QUOTE="legol1"] first if my post is unreadable how do you do to reply me ? second if you have invest a ton of cash in your gaming rig its obvious you are a pc gamer and you like pc more ,nobody here is surprise to see a hermit bashing a console . but when you say 360 exclusive do not worth the purchase of a 360 THIS IS YOUR OPINION nothing more .legol1

Do you understand the concept of "exaggeration"? It's not that your posts are unreadable, it's that they're damn hard to read (and I agree) to the point where people start saying that it's "unreadable" to stress the pure difficulty of it to get their point across better.

Besides, show me where mudman or I said that 360 exclusives to not make the 360 a worthwhile purchase - I have yet to see where either of us said that.

ok i will confess i am a french canadian and i suck when its time to write . and if i remember correctly i start to reply when someone call people who bring game only available on 360 a idiot and he also telling them every cross platform are better on pc so you dont have any reason to choose a 360 over a pc i find that offencive and elitist speech.

I agree that mudman came off as a not-very-nice person.

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#232 legol1
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[QUOTE="legol1"][QUOTE="aliblabla2007"]

[QUOTE="legol1"] first if my post is unreadable how do you do to reply me ? second if you have invest a ton of cash in your gaming rig its obvious you are a pc gamer and you like pc more ,nobody here is surprise to see a hermit bashing a console . but when you say 360 exclusive do not worth the purchase of a 360 THIS IS YOUR OPINION nothing more .aliblabla2007

Do you understand the concept of "exaggeration"? It's not that your posts are unreadable, it's that they're damn hard to read (and I agree) to the point where people start saying that it's "unreadable" to stress the pure difficulty of it to get their point across better.

Besides, show me where mudman or I said that 360 exclusives to not make the 360 a worthwhile purchase - I have yet to see where either of us said that.

ok i will confess i am a french canadian and i suck when its time to write . and if i remember correctly i start to reply when someone call people who bring game only available on 360 a idiot and he also telling them every cross platform are better on pc so you dont have any reason to choose a 360 over a pc i find that offencive and elitist speech.

I agree that mudman came off as a not-very-nice person.

ok are we friend now because i hate to lose a argument but in the same time we are arguing about this for far to long now , at least 24 hour! i wish you a nice day .
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ok are we friend now because i hate to lose a argument but in the same time we are arguing about this for far to long now , at least 24 hour! i wish you a nice day .legol1

It's okay to lose a debate. I find it more important to enjoy the debate than to win it.

And yeah, have a nice day too... though I'll be asleep soon.
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[QUOTE="legol1"] ok are we friend now because i hate to lose a argument but in the same time we are arguing about this for far to long now , at least 24 hour! i wish you a nice day .aliblabla2007

It's okay to lose a debate. I find it more important to enjoy the debate than to win it.

And yeah, have a nice day too... though I'll be asleep soon.

LOL i just woke up so good night sir .
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#235 aliblabla2007
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[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"]

[QUOTE="legol1"] ok are we friend now because i hate to lose a argument but in the same time we are arguing about this for far to long now , at least 24 hour! i wish you a nice day .legol1

It's okay to lose a debate. I find it more important to enjoy the debate than to win it.

And yeah, have a nice day too... though I'll be asleep soon.

LOL i just woke up so good night sir .

Well, good morning then. Hope you enjoy your day.

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[QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="legol1"][QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="legol1"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="legol1"]the opposite is also true if you have a 360 for gaming you dont need a gaming rig a good workstation will do the job just fine burning dvd browse internet the kind of work a pc is good at.:)legol1

If you simply stick a better video card, memory and cpu in your computer then there is no need for an xbox 360 - according to that logic.

Opposites dont really work.

It boils down to what you want, titles and experience wise.

However you can easily stick the two systems down and determine which is better of the two....

ok but imagine i have to change my mobo plus my harddrive. So in resume i have to buy a brand new pc to play new game but for a workstation like i said burn dvd and browse internet my old pc do a great job and my 360 for gaming its a realy good combo dont you see the opposite is also true you can have a low end pc for utility program and a 360 for gaming and be a totaly satisfied gamer.

Well motherboard depends on many variables, and hard drive, you can use the same. I think power supply would be a better example.

What I meant is that if you put down money for a new workstation computer, why not spend the little extra and raise the performance level fo the components to that of a reasonable gaming computer.

You can simply have a computer with those specs to be a totally satisfied gamer, or hell you could have a Wii, PS3, 360 and be a totally satisfied gamer. What satisfies you is ultimately your own opinion, but of course I understand the point you are making.

maybe im not clear my mobo already have the bigest cpu it can take my hardrive is not sata i have to change everything in order to play new games there no upgrade to be made on my old rig but for utility program its strong enough and 360 is a very not expensive gaming solution dont you think ? i have two choice a brand new pc for around 1000$ or a 300$ 360 ... easy choice.

I just bought a brand new pc with a dual core and 2gigs of ram for $309. With $70 I got a HD3850 and a new powersupply so its not really $1000 but nice try. Try $380-$400 and can play pretty much any game on max. With $10-$15 cheaper games, on paper the best games even with higher standards, free online($50 a year your saving), better controlls (can choose controller if you perfer) and mods......your right the choice really is easy :|

you are freaking hilarious ROFL no there noway i will beleive you maybe in fantasy land but in the real world you need a minimum of 1000$ to build a decent gaming rig from scratch .......!

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6183967/p-4.html The 3850 can run call of duty 4 at all max settings with 50+ FPS and at a way higher resolution the consoles...... Are you really calling that decent ? Sry but its true you don't need $1000 since you can play 360 games better for around $400. And if you want to complain about building you can't since all you have to do is buy a pre-built and buy 2 things.