If you have a good Gaming Rig PC you don't need a 360

No, i hate Keyboard controls, i like controller better, XBL, and just playing games on a 360.

[QUOTE="Philmon"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Anyway if you get a gaming PC do you really need a Wii or PS3? no not really. The library for the PC dwarfs the PS3 and Wii as well. And if we play "but the exclusives" game

Fine

Halo 3
Forza 2
Banjo Nuts and BOlts
Perfect Dark Zero
PGR 3, PGR 4
Viva Pinata Trouble in Paradise
Lost Odyssey
Star Ocean 4
Tales of Vesperia
Infinite Undiscoverey
Ninja Gaiden 2
Dead Rising
Too Human
Gears of War 2(for now atleast)
Fable 2
Saints Row
and a bunch of others are only exclusive to the 360

Plus there are the multiplats that PC didn't get

like
Virtua Fighter 5
Soul Caliber 4
Burnout Paradise(not sure why on this one)
The Darkness(how the hell did this not go on PC?)

If anything the 360 has offered a PC gamer far more than the PS3 and Wii so far. Grive

There is no point in comparing 360 AAAE and AAE game library to the PC simply because it is way ahead. I mean the PC has only 5 less AAAE that the total number of 360 AAA, and only 11 less AAE than the total number of 360 AA, so even if you add the games that are not on the PC to the 360s exclusives list the PC would still be ahead.Not to mention that it works both ways and the PC would end up with additional AAAE and AAE.

Congratulations, you sidestepped the argument by stating the blindingly obvious, which he had acknowledged.

He stated two things:

1.- Under the OP's argument, both the PS3 and the Wii go out the wayside. Why pick on the 360?

2.- What if you want to play the 360's exclusives (along with multiplats the PC doesn't get)? That's the case of a lot of people. I want me Halo 3. I want me Dead Rising. I can go on. The PC and 360 do not fully overlap. You can justify the purchase of a 360 just by it's exclusives, even if you have a PC.

1. Wi/PS3 have more titles in development that are likely to be exclusives than the 360. Dont just look at the here and now, but the trend in general. When MS talks about 360 exclusive, that means if they can they will try and release the game on the PC sometime down the line. However I dont see the same thing happening to PS3/Wii exclusives which would make those two the obvious choice if we are going just by number of AAAe and AAe.

2. Yes, if you want specific games an argument can be made for each platform, but if you wanted to get the most coverage and wanted to spend money on only one platform to supplement your PC (and say spend your money on games instead of a third or forth platform), then the 360 would not be my first choice.

360 is basically a poor mans PC

PC has better online. PC has free online. PC has much better graphics (you know, the main selling point of your console), PC has better controls, PC has a HUGE back catalogue of games, PC has better WRPGs, PC has beter shooters, PC has better strategy games

There a few good exclusives on the 360 that you'll never see on the PC such as Forza 2 and Ninja Gaiden but I never really missed them

No, i hate Keyboard controls, i like controller better, XBL, and just playing games on a 360.

SilentNight_

Yea you say that in every thread, we get it.

I was not basing my opinion purley on critic scores. You also need to look at user scores to see what the community think of the game. People say Crysis recived a rediculiously high score others think GTA 4. In the end it dose come down to your opinion on what system has the best games. I may not like a few genres which may contain half of the PC's AAA titles. People fight over these things because they mainly base there stats on different aspects._rock_

If all you want to say is "I like my system, not yours", why even bother posting? It's not really up for discussion is it?

[QUOTE="SilentNight_"]

No, i hate Keyboard controls, i like controller better, XBL, and just playing games on a 360.

PC360Wii

Yea you say that in every thread, we get it.

Read the title.

360 is basically a poor mans PC

PC has better online. PC has free online. PC has much better graphics (you know, the main selling point of your console), PC has better controls, PC has a HUGE back catalogue of games, PC has better WRPGs, PC has beter shooters, PC has better strategy games

There a few good exclusives on the 360 that you'll never see on the PC such as Forza 2 and Ninja Gaiden but I never really missed them

vicmackey39

No.

No.

SilentNight_

Great comeback

[QUOTE="vicmackey39"]

360 is basically a poor mans PC

PC has better online. PC has free online. PC has much better graphics (you know, the main selling point of your console), PC has better controls, PC has a HUGE back catalogue of games, PC has better WRPGs, PC has beter shooters, PC has better strategy games

There a few good exclusives on the 360 that you'll never see on the PC such as Forza 2 and Ninja Gaiden but I never really missed them

SilentNight_

No.

Vicmackey's summary is probably the most accurate comparison of the two.

While I wouldn't call a 360 a poor mans PC directly, it does come of that way with its constant sharing of titles with the PC, and push for online and shooters, which of course are done much better on the pc.

That is just how it is *looks at 360 and PC*

[QUOTE="vicmackey39"][QUOTE="SilentNight_"]

No.

SilentNight_

Great comeback

Okay, you say 360 is a poor mans PC.

All pc gamers are basment dwellers.

What if we dont have basements? :cry:

[QUOTE="vicmackey39"][QUOTE="SilentNight_"]

No.

SilentNight_

Great comeback

Okay, you say 360 is a poor mans PC.

All pc gamers are basment dwellers.

Honestly now how immature can you get.

Everyone is a stereotype :roll:

[QUOTE="SilentNight_"][QUOTE="vicmackey39"]

360 is basically a poor mans PC

PC has better online. PC has free online. PC has much better graphics (you know, the main selling point of your console), PC has better controls, PC has a HUGE back catalogue of games, PC has better WRPGs, PC has beter shooters, PC has better strategy games

There a few good exclusives on the 360 that you'll never see on the PC such as Forza 2 and Ninja Gaiden but I never really missed them

skrat_01

No.

Vicmackey's summary is probably the most accurate comparison of the two.

While I wouldn't call a 360 a poor mans PC directly, it does come of that way with its constant sharing of titles with the PC, and push for online and shooters, which of course are done much better on the pc.

That is just how it is *looks at 360 and PC*

No.

360 has better controls.

[QUOTE="SilentNight_"][QUOTE="vicmackey39"][QUOTE="SilentNight_"]

No.

skrat_01

Great comeback

Okay, you say 360 is a poor mans PC.

All pc gamers are basment dwellers.

Honestly now how immature can you get.

Everyone is a stereotype :roll:

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u237/brokn68/nerd46422fm3.jpg

First image on google :D.

Okay, you say 360 is a poor mans PC.

All pc gamers are basment dwellers.

SilentNight_

I drew a logical conclusion based on the facts to hand. You generalised a system's entire audience based on your own prejudices

It'd be like me saying that all 360 owners were Racist American children who aren't smart enough to use a PC

[QUOTE="dgsag"]

Oh, multiplats? Bolded are on PC. ;)

_rock_

How is online play better on a 360? That is crazy! Has onone here played Team Fortress 2 on the 360? TF2 is one of the best mp games ever (on the pc). That is just one example. C+C3's controls on the 360 are horrable as well. FPS controls are much much better with a mouse. Its so hard to score a headshot with a controler. I dont have to deal with a bunch of high-pitched foulmouthed little kids on the pc either.

Can I play Banjo-Kazooie on a pc?LanDC77

Well no, but I do feel sad that I have to play some games on my 360 instead of my PC (which has a 9800GX2 for incredible graphics) because of 360 exclusivity :(

While I wouldn't call a 360 a poor mans PC directly, it does come of that way with its constant sharing of titles with the PC, and push for online and shooters, which of course are done much better on the pc

skrat_01

In many ways it is

Ask yourself, what is the main selling point of the 360? It's the graphics, and in that regard PC's chew up consoles and spit them out

There's also the issue of cost which ties directly to to the buying capacity and maturity of the relative audiences and the genre that the 360 is best known for is shooters, which the PC does a much better job of handling

No.

360 has better controls.

SilentNight_

No it doesn't.

I can use a 360 controller with my PC games, meaning that even if you prefer the 360 controller, the PC still does not have worse controls.

And if you prefer the KB/M (like most people do for most genres) then the PC is superior control wise.

No matter how you feel about the whole Controller vs. KB/M situation, the PC can not have inferior controls, but it may be seen as superior.

[QUOTE="SilentNight_"]

Okay, you say 360 is a poor mans PC.

All pc gamers are basment dwellers.

vicmackey39

I drew a logical conclusion based on the facts to hand. You generalised a system's entire audience based on your own prejudices

It'd be like me saying that all 360 owners were Racist American children who aren't smart enough to use a PC

360 has better games, online, controls.

Fact.

No.

360 has better controls.

SilentNight_

360 has better games, online, controls.

Fact.

SilentNight_

:lol:

What metric are you using?

In terms of controls the PC allows you pretty much everything, tthe 360 limits you to a gampepad

In terms of online the PC is free, has more functionality, has decidcated servers and competition

In terms of games the PC has more high rated games this gen and much more high rated games overall

[QUOTE="SilentNight_"]

No.

360 has better controls.

agentfred

No it doesn't.

I can use a 360 controller with my PC games, meaning that even if you prefer the 360 controller, the PC still does not have worse controls.

And if you prefer the KB/M (like most people do for most genres) then the PC is superior control wise.

No matter how you feel about the whole Controller vs. KB/M situation, the PC can not have inferior controls, but it may be seen as superior.

Yes it does.

[QUOTE="vicmackey39"][QUOTE="SilentNight_"]

Okay, you say 360 is a poor mans PC.

All pc gamers are basment dwellers.

SilentNight_

I drew a logical conclusion based on the facts to hand. You generalised a system's entire audience based on your own prejudices

It'd be like me saying that all 360 owners were Racist American children who aren't smart enough to use a PC

360 has better games, online, controls.

Opinion

[QUOTE="SilentNight_"]

No.

360 has better controls.

skrat_01

There is no way that he's for real

[QUOTE="SilentNight_"]

360 has better games, online, controls.

Fact.

vicmackey39

:lol:

What metric are you using?

In terms of controls the PC allows you pretty much everything, tthe 360 limits you to a gampepad

In terms of online the PC is free, has more functionality, has decidcated servers and competition

In terms of games the PC has more high rated games this gen and much more high rated games overall

[QUOTE="agentfred"][QUOTE="SilentNight_"]

No.

360 has better controls.

SilentNight_

No it doesn't.

I can use a 360 controller with my PC games, meaning that even if you prefer the 360 controller, the PC still does not have worse controls.

And if you prefer the KB/M (like most people do for most genres) then the PC is superior control wise.

No matter how you feel about the whole Controller vs. KB/M situation, the PC can not have inferior controls, but it may be seen as superior.

Yes it does.

Im yet to read a convincing counter argument

There is no way that he's for real

vicmackey39

on that note, its the only plausible answer

Lets see:

Its always a console game number one in the greatest games of all time.

PC has no AAAA's ( :lol: )

Console dominates in top 10 gametrailers games.

More console games then PC games in greatest games of all time here on gamespot.

PC:

:lol:

Lets see:

Its always a console game number one in the greatest games of all time.

PC has no AAAA's ( :lol: )

Console dominates in top 10 gametrailers games.

More console games then PC games in greatest games of all time here on gamespot.

PC:

:lol:

SilentNight_

PC has no AAAA's ( :lol: )

SilentNight_

GTA4 will come to PC later on just like all other GTAs have. Thats very easy to predict.

there are games you cant get on the pc..daveg1

There are games you can only get on the PC.

[QUOTE="SilentNight_"]

Lets see:

Its always a console game number one in the greatest games of all time.

PC has no AAAA's ( :lol: )

Console dominates in top 10 gametrailers games.

More console games then PC games in greatest games of all time here on gamespot.

PC:

:lol:

skrat_01

I wouldn't be impressed either, finding out the truth :D.

[QUOTE="daveg1"]there are games you cant get on the pc..artiedeadat40

There are games you can only get on the PC.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="SilentNight_"]

Lets see:

Its always a console game number one in the greatest games of all time.

PC has no AAAA's ( :lol: )

Console dominates in top 10 gametrailers games.

More console games then PC games in greatest games of all time here on gamespot.

PC:

:lol:

SilentNight_

I wouldn't be impressed either, finding out the truth :D.

Lets see:

Its always a console game number one in the greatest games of all time.

PC has no AAAA's ( :lol: )

Console dominates in top 10 gametrailers games.

More console games then PC games in greatest games of all time here on gamespot.

PC:

:lol:

SilentNight_

List time I checked, Arcades weren't consoles.

I'm willing to bet that Fable 2 will be on the PC as well.

Some people just like playing on consoles, but if you have a gaming rig, that probably means you're fine with playing on your comp. The 360 is just an unupgradable PC in the end, since it's running windows practically anyway.

mstc_Q

What if I want to play Dead Rising, one of the best games so far this generation? No? What about Ace Combat 6, Virtua Fighter 5, Ninja Gaiden 2, Halo 3 (you still don't have it) Crackdown, and Forza 2? No? What about the upcoming Gears of War 2? What if I don't want to wait a year for a port of that game?

You fail TC, and you fail hard.

Yes it does.

SilentNight_

Color me impressed. You just took a logically irrefutable argument (If I do say so myself) and refuted it simply by ignoring the argument altogether, and re-positing your original position.

Well done sir, well done.

Can i play Gears 2 this year on my pc ?blitzkid1

yes caus i want to wait months or even years to play a game on the pc.

i mean look at halo 2, it released on the xbox and then the PC, which version do you think more people bought?

yes caus i want to wait months or even years to play a game on the pc.

i mean look at halo 2, it released on the xbox and then the PC, which version do you think more people bought?

elite_ferns1

Pc get most of the games released for xbox360... not so long time after the console version. There are some exceptions but hey irather wait 6 months to play the games as meant to be played.... at 60fps (in before ME)! lololo

Nah, even if I had a top of the line gaming rig... I would still own my 360.