If You Think About It..Master Chief Is Kind Of A Pathetic Character

[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

I'm not with him or anything, but so are a bunch of other games that catter to younger audiences. Kids like mature stuff, it has always been this way since... ever

lundy86_4

You realize that they are legal ratings, right?

You're saying that games will cater to younger audience, but kids will play it solely for the mature rating? It doesn't make sense if it caters to a young audience, by providing mature content.

are you serious? Are you honestly gonna tell me you werent interested in violent movies/games when you were younger? I know I was, and many other kids I met throughout my life. Hell, I was like 14yo when I first played RE because I kept hearing how gory it was. Being branded for mature by "legal ratings" mean sh1t when most kids still end up playing it. Wanna know how many kids play Halo? Just play online.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

There is no gore in Halo, nor is there any sexual content or F-Bombs. It should be rated a T game at best.

An M rated game should be like Fallout or something, where you shoot the guy's head off. Even the old COD games are more violent than Halo, and those are rated T.

lundy86_4

Here is their rating process. It astounds me that you think you are more qualified to ascertain the game's intended age level.

It contains an immense amount of violence. All you do is kill things :?

All you do is kill things in Uncharted, many of the same things in Halo rating are found in Uncharted. There is nothing super violent about Halo and I see no reason for it to be an M rated game, I know I'm not the only one who thinks like this.

And the ESRB brings in random people, most of whom are not gamers, they watch parts of a game then decide what they think it should be. You are using a appeal to authority fallacy, for someone who claims to take a political science class you should know better than this.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

I'm not with him or anything, but so are a bunch of other games that catter to younger audiences. Kids like mature stuff, it has always been this way since... ever

Vatusus

You realize that they are legal ratings, right?

You're saying that games will cater to younger audience, but kids will play it solely for the mature rating? It doesn't make sense if it caters to a young audience, by providing mature content.

are you serious? Are you honestly gonna tell me you werent interested in violent movies/games when you were younger? I know I was, and many other kids I met throughout my life. Hell, I was like 14yo when I first played RE because I kept hearing how gory it was. Being branded for mature by "legal ratings" mean sh1t when most kids still end up playing it. Wanna know how many kids play Halo? Just play online.

And?

Halo caters to a mature audience. Kids play it, but that's not the audience Halo caters to, period.

A proper character is a severely flawed person. It makes us more easily able to identify with them. A "perfect" individual is usually very bland and uninspiring. And the SPARTAN-II and SPARTAN-III program participants were all extremely flawed people. The prior were genetically "perfect" but had no proper development. The latter were orphans, of an extremely vengeful nature, many with severe mental disorders (a lot of sociopaths), trained to be suicide squads. The beauty about the Halo lore is that it represents humanity at it's absolute worst, trying to overcome it's impending extinction.Zeviander

This.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

There is no gore in Halo, nor is there any sexual content or F-Bombs. It should be rated a T game at best.

An M rated game should be like Fallout or something, where you shoot the guy's head off. Even the old COD games are more violent than Halo, and those are rated T.

ShadowMoses900

Here is their rating process. It astounds me that you think you are more qualified to ascertain the game's intended age level.

It contains an immense amount of violence. All you do is kill things :?

All you do is kill things in Uncharted, many of the same things in Halo rating are found in Uncharted. There is nothing super violent about Halo and I see no reason for it to be an M rated game, I know I'm not the only one who thinks like this.

And the ESRB brings in random people, most of whom are not gamers, they watch parts of a game then decide what they think it should be. You are using a appeal to authority fallacy, for someone who claims to take a political science class you should know better than this.

And what, exactly, makes you more suited to judge a game's rating than them?

The ESRB is a nationally recognized ratings board. I couldn't care less what you have to say compared to them.

I have seen the whole game from start to finish and played a couple of those levels. If you want details PM me, I won't spoil the story for anyone.

ShadowMoses900

I didn't play much of the game, only a level or two. I don't believe in piracey so I don't support it. But it's only 5 hours long dude, it's really short and a bunch of QTE. Don't believe me, I don't care, you will find out for yourself soon. Just don't buy it for the campign, that's all I'm saying. If you want to know more about it PM me, I don't want to spoil the story for other people.

ShadowMoses900

It sucking is subjective, some people may enjoy it. The game has 8 missions, neither of which are very long. I played a level that was mid way through the game, I had to destroy 3 cores, which is very reptitive, and the immediately after that do the same thing again. Not going to talk about the other level due to spoilers.

The apparently has another ending that I didn't see beause my friend replayed it by himself on legendary and told me about it. I don't really like them as gamers because they don't support the industry, and my other legit 360 friends are tempted to mod their 360's too. I talk them out of it. Overall though it is one of the shortest campaigns ever made, and I don't think it's worth buying if you don't have XBL.

ShadowMoses900

Halo caters to a mature audience.

The_Game21x

Could have fooled me...

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Halo caters to a mature audience.

Vatusus

Could have fooled me...

I'm not surprised.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I don't see why, they should be rated T.

ShadowMoses900

I was trolling, it was obvious I wasn't being serious dude.

Hahaha typical!!! *types post, totally serious* *someone calls out his stupidity* "LOLOLOLOL got u i TROLLED U RITE??? !!!!! LOLOLOLOLO

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Speaking of Master Chief, Shadowmoses and pathological lying - I finished the campaign dude. You know the one you said you played/observed friends playing? The one you said is 'full of quick time events.' WEIRDEST THING, there are no quick time events at all outside of the first level and even then there are only two; press X to open door and press X to pull an elite over the edge. Did you play a different version of the game that's chock full of QTEs? Can you loan me it? GOGOGOGURT

I was trolling, it was obvious I wasn't being serious dude.

Hahaha typical!!! *types post, totally serious* *someone calls out his stupidity* "LOLOLOLOL got u i TROLLED U RITE??? !!!!! LOLOLOLOLO

[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Halo caters to a mature audience.

The_Game21x

Could have fooled me...

I'm not surprised.

I'm surprised you're not

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I was trolling, it was obvious I wasn't being serious dude.

Ninja-Hippo

Hahaha typical!!! *types post, totally serious* *someone calls out his stupidity* "LOLOLOLOL got u i TROLLED U RITE??? !!!!! LOLOLOLOLO

Hahaha I kno! "i hav pc friend, and xbox friend, and ps3 friend, and wii friend, and scool friend..."

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

Could have fooled me...

Vatusus

I'm not surprised.

I'm surprised you're not

I'm not surprised you're not

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

have you ever seen a Power RangerVatusus

Yes, and MC looks like one

[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

I'm not surprised.

GOGOGOGURT

I'm surprised you're not

I'm not surprised you're not

But... I said I was surprised... :?

c-c-c-c-combo breaker

Think you just proved you didn't have a real childhood.mems_1224

Nah, I had a fake one. IT WASNT REAL!!!

Nah, but seriously, 1st time I ever saw MC I immediately thought of Power Rangers

All you do is kill things in Uncharted, many of the same things in Halo rating are found in Uncharted. There is nothing super violent about Halo and I see no reason for it to be an M rated game, I know I'm not the only one who thinks like this.

And the ESRB brings in random people, most of whom are not gamers, they watch parts of a game then decide what they think it should be. You are using a appeal to authority fallacy, for someone who claims to take a political science class you should know better than this.

ShadowMoses900

Actually, the fallacy is only committed when the appeal to said authority is not actually an authority on the required subject.

Uncharted and Halo are also rather different. Blood and Gore for a Mature rating denotes blood and possible mutilation of body parts, which takes place when fighting the Flood. Cortana could also be seen as a depiction of sexual content due to her noted "nudity" as an AI, this becomes more and more apparent as the Halo series progresses, note: Halo 4.

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If you feel it should be rated lower, then that is your prerogative. The fact remains, however, that it is rated Mature, for a mature audience.

are you serious? Are you honestly gonna tell me you werent interested in violent movies/games when you were younger? I know I was, and many other kids I met throughout my life. Hell, I was like 14yo when I first played RE because I kept hearing how gory it was. Being branded for mature by "legal ratings" mean sh1t when most kids still end up playing it. Wanna know how many kids play Halo? Just play online.

Vatusus

Anecdotal evidence?

Halo is intended for a Mature audience.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]Think you just proved you didn't have a real childhood.Vatusus

Nah, I had a fake one. IT WASNT REAL!!!

Nah, but seriously, 1st time I ever saw MC I immediately thought of Power Rangers

Yeah, I hate it when my characters have flaws. Makes them so boring.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Being kidnapped from your home at the age of six, trained as a soldier, fed propaganda, experimented on, and watching pretty much eveyone you grew up with die horrible deaths will do that to a person.

Chuubby

Bungie / 343 did such a bad job at presenting the Chiefs backstory and making him a likeable character. The only reason I know this stuff is because I read your post. ;/

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Speaking of Master Chief, Shadowmoses and pathological lying - I finished the campaign dude. You know the one you said you played/observed friends playing? The one you said is 'full of quick time events.' WEIRDEST THING, there are no quick time events at all outside of the first level and even then there are only two; press X to open door and press X to pull an elite over the edge. Did you play a different version of the game that's chock full of QTEs? Can you loan me it? GOGOGOGURT

I was trolling, it was obvious I wasn't being serious dude.

Hahaha typical!!! *types post, totally serious* *someone calls out his stupidity* "LOLOLOLOL got u i TROLLED U RITE??? !!!!! LOLOLOLOLO

You actually made him sound kind of interesting OP. AAllxxjjnn

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I think Master Cheif appeals to a younger audience. The 360 fanbase is probably made up of younger mostly kids could not afford a PS3 when it launched, so they had their parents buy them a 360 instead with Halo.

I would argue that most 360 users only started gaming this gen or last gen.

Vatusus

Halo games are rated as Mature.

I'm not with him or anything, but so are a bunch of other games that catter to younger audiences. Kids like mature stuff, it has always been this way since... ever

You actually made him sound kind of interesting OP. AAllxxjjnn

Thats what I was thinking, I never cared about any Halo characters,or lore, but I'd like to learn some more now.

Isn't that how spartans are supposed to be? Basically humans made specifically for war?

Isn't that how spartans are supposed to be? Basically humans made specifically for war?

cain006

Yep, in Halo 4, at the very beginning, an interrogation of Dr. Halsey sheds some light on the SPARTANs.

He's just a really boring and dull character. Samus is a million times better.

nah, hes an awesome character.mems_1224

You didn't read a word he wrote did you?

Being kidnapped from your home at the age of six, trained as a soldier, fed propaganda, experimented on, and watching pretty much eveyone you grew up with die horrible deaths will do that to a person.

DarkLink77

and that would make you want to hook up with a A.I. Companion? :?jessejay420

In what way did he want to "hook up" with her?

[QUOTE="jessejay420"]and that would make you want to hook up with a A.I. Companion? :?lundy86_4

In what way did he want to "hook up" with her?

He's just a really boring and dull character. Samus is a million times better.

SonySoldier-_-

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="jessejay420"]and that would make you want to hook up with a A.I. Companion? :?jessejay420

In what way did he want to "hook up" with her?

I hoped so! I was all "Whaaaaaaaaat!?"

Good, that makes him less boring.

I don't want to play as Mr. Perfect (aka Nathan Drake) :|

Master Chief may be boring and redundant, but there are far worse characters in gaming this gen:

Lightning-So boring and bland, she has ZERO personality what so ever, no emotion is ever portrayed in her character. It felt like playing a robot, she represents FF13. She is bland and souless and so is the game.

Rico-Rico is from Killzone and he is the most generic meat head soldier in gaming history. But what makes him really annoying is how loud he is and how much he swears. He drops an F-bomb in every line, I wish they would just kill him out of the series.

Pikachu-I hate Poke'mon, they need to die. Enough said.

Roman-I hate him in GTA4. Not only can I never understand a word he's saying, I keep getting calls from him on a constant basis. He is annoying.

That dumb shop keeper in Skyrim-I stole from his shop a long time ago, like when I first got the game, and I got caught for it. I paid my bounty off through theif guild, but for some reason this jack ass STILL attacks me! And worst of all he will not die, he is a character for a quest and just get's back up off his knees. I can't even finish the quest because he will just attack me, and I'm lucky if I make it through town without him chasing me (he has another person in his shop that attacks me too and he walks around town regularly). I hate him, Bethesda needs to kill him off.

Ciscero-He is also in Skyrim and is in the Dark Brotherhood. There is something wrong with this guy, mentally wrong. And he is so flamboyant it gives me a headache.

Glarther-In Oblivion there is the dumb Wood Elf that chases me around. I hate Wood Elves in general, everyone knows Dark Elves are the best race and the one you should play as.

Being kidnapped from your home at the age of six, trained as a soldier, fed propaganda, experimented on, and watching pretty much eveyone you grew up with die horrible deaths will do that to a person.

DarkLink77

136 posts later and the thread was already wrapped up on the second post.

:roll:

I thought that was the main point Halo 4 was trying to get across... This all makes him a good character rather than the bland one-dimensional "perfect" character people easily mistook him as. I don't blame them. Bungie weren't very good at showcasing the side-effects of the SPARTAN-II augmentation.Arbiterisl33t69

[QUOTE="Arbiterisl33t69"]I thought that was the main point Halo 4 was trying to get across... This all makes him a good character rather than the bland one-dimensional "perfect" character people easily mistook him as. I don't blame them. Bungie weren't very good at showcasing the side-effects of the SPARTAN-II augmentation.DarkLink77

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Arbiterisl33t69"]I thought that was the main point Halo 4 was trying to get across... This all makes him a good character rather than the bland one-dimensional "perfect" character people easily mistook him as. I don't blame them. Bungie weren't very good at showcasing the side-effects of the SPARTAN-II augmentation.mems_1224

For God's sake people, read the books. Then your opinion may have some ground.ShadowsDemon

It's story should be good enough to hold up on it's own merits, however it doesn't.

For God's sake people, read the books. Then your opinion may have some ground.ShadowsDemon

Good, that makes him less boring.

I don't want to play as Mr. Perfect (aka Nathan Drake) :|

Riadon2

thats hilarious, Drake is a tool and an opportunist thief.

[QUOTE="Riadon2"]

Good, that makes him less boring.

I don't want to play as Mr. Perfect (aka Nathan Drake) :|

Zaibach

thats hilarious, Drake is a tool and an opportunist thief.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]For God's sake people, read the books. Then your opinion may have some ground.toast_burner

It's story should be good enough to hold up on it's own merits, however it doesn't.

Have to agree with Toastie on this one, QED, a game that is praised to heavens and back should not have to rely on you doing homework to get enjoyment other games manage regardless out of it.

The Witcher games are based on books too, you dont need to enrol in the Polish folklore seminars to enjoy them.

The Halo lore is interesting, I never realised till I watched Halo Legends (only scratched the surface aswell), never found it interesting despite having played 3 halo games prior. And recently just finished watching 'Forward unto Dawn pretty descent.

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="Riadon2"]

Good, that makes him less boring.

I don't want to play as Mr. Perfect (aka Nathan Drake) :|

DarkLink77

thats hilarious, Drake is a tool and an opportunist thief.

Nah, Chloe is good for a quickie in the backseat, but Elena is a quality lass, class act all the way:cool: