http://psp.ign.com/articles/121/1210474p1.html
It's like they never learn.
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I saw that. I loled a lot. :lol: $170 (3DS) is bound to sell more with no games than $250 (Vita) with more social features and no games.
I hope so. It's obvious the Sony Designers and engineers put a lot more thought, effort, and actual concern in a gaming point of view while making the Vita while the 3ds is a mess. But alas 3ds has Pokemon and now Monster Hunter.
*sigh*
inbefore blind hate and ad hominems spewed towards IGN by the nintendo faithful because they said something negative about nintendo.
And by "in before" I mean
inAFTERblind hate and ad hominems spewed towards IGN by the nintendo faithful because they said something negative about nintendo.
The 3DS' gimmick as a massive flop, and PS Vita comes with more technology than we've ever seen in a single gadget, for a decent price. It's not hard to predict PSVita outselling 3ds.
People are falling back on "but nintendo has....xxxx, xxxx, and xxxx..." the same way Cows were when the PS3 came out and was a clusterf***.I hope so. It's obvious the Sony Designers and engineers put a lot more thought, effort, and actual concern in a gaming point of view while the making the Vita while the 3ds is a mess. But alas 3ds has Pokemon and now Monster Hunter.
Jolt_counter119
Just like the PS3 "had" Gran Turismo 5, Metal Gear Solid 4, God of War 3, etc...
Did these games make the PS3 suddenly blast past the 360? Nope. They were good games that simply came and went.
3DS vs VITA arguements are almost identicall to PS3 vs 360 arguements at the beginning of the gen.
People are falling back on "but nintendo has....xxxx, xxxx, and xxxx..." the same way Cows were when the PS3 came out and was a clusterf***.
Just like the PS3 "had" Gran Turismo 5, Metal Gear Solid 4, God of War 3, etc...
Did these games make the PS3 suddenly blast past the 360? Nope. They were good games that simply came and went.
3DS vs VITA arguements are almost identicall to PS3 vs 360 arguements at the beginning of the gen.
StrongDeadlift
And yet at the end of the day, it's almost certain 3DS will still outsell the Vita. Because it is targeted at children.
And there's certainly a lot more children running around begging their parents for one than adults willing to buy a Vita.
People are falling back on "but nintendo has....xxxx, xxxx, and xxxx..." the same way Cows were when the PS3 came out and was a clusterf***.[QUOTE="Jolt_counter119"]
I hope so. It's obvious the Sony Designers and engineers put a lot more thought, effort, and actual concern in a gaming point of view while the making the Vita while the 3ds is a mess. But alas 3ds has Pokemon and now Monster Hunter.
StrongDeadlift
Just like the PS3 "had" Gran Turismo 5, Metal Gear Solid 4, God of War 3, etc...
Did these games make the PS3 suddenly blast past the 360? Nope. They were good games that simply came and went.
3DS vs VITA arguements are almost identicall to PS3 vs 360 arguements at the beginning of the gen.
I don't think those games really compare to Pokemon. This is a game that literally hasn't changed since Red and every sequel and even remake makes ridiculous sales. If Pokemon can't catapult 3ds's sales past Vita then nothing can.
edit: and that's if Vita ever surpasses 3ds to begin with.
People are falling back on "but nintendo has....xxxx, xxxx, and xxxx..." the same way Cows were when the PS3 came out and was a clusterf***.[QUOTE="Jolt_counter119"]
I hope so. It's obvious the Sony Designers and engineers put a lot more thought, effort, and actual concern in a gaming point of view while the making the Vita while the 3ds is a mess. But alas 3ds has Pokemon and now Monster Hunter.
StrongDeadlift
Just like the PS3 "had" Gran Turismo 5, Metal Gear Solid 4, God of War 3, etc...
Did these games make the PS3 suddenly blast past the 360? Nope. They were good games that simply came and went.
3DS vs VITA arguements are almost identicall to PS3 vs 360 arguements at the beginning of the gen.
actually it's sounds more like the ds vs psp arguments too me lolPeople are falling back on "but nintendo has....xxxx, xxxx, and xxxx..." the same way Cows were when the PS3 came out and was a clusterf***.[QUOTE="Jolt_counter119"]
I hope so. It's obvious the Sony Designers and engineers put a lot more thought, effort, and actual concern in a gaming point of view while the making the Vita while the 3ds is a mess. But alas 3ds has Pokemon and now Monster Hunter.
StrongDeadlift
Just like the PS3 "had" Gran Turismo 5, Metal Gear Solid 4, God of War 3, etc...
Did these games make the PS3 suddenly blast past the 360? Nope. They were good games that simply came and went.
3DS vs VITA arguements are almost identicall to PS3 vs 360 arguements at the beginning of the gen.
In terms of game quality it certainly did "blast past" sales? not so much."The 3DS won't take the Vita out with n64 ports and Nintendos worn out series"
Yeah its going to take it out with fantastic software, and cheaper hardware, and a broader appeal thats what..
My god can they freaking fire Colin, I seriously hate that guy. I don't normally complain about journalists but this guy is the biggest fanboy I've ever seen.. he was a good guides writter but his opinions are horrible.
I feel sorry for the next generation of people that have to read this ****.
The headline is fine, but if that above quote was actually in the article, smh.
I'm not clicking the link because I don't want to contribute to the IGN getting more traffic.
Vita has an uphill battle no doubt. 3DS advantages -
All I really know about the Vita is that it will be cool and Sony rocks of course. Now sales and third parties though ? It could be a real disaster. They will need some luck to even get close to PSP level of success. It was all so new and so exciting back then when adult gamers thought they wanted a cool handheld , but then realised they didn't and would rather spend on console stuff or play junk on their phones because it is less cumbersome and embarrassing. :oops:
I just can't see it happen with Monster Hunter being exclusive for the 3DS at the moment. PSV has no killer apps thus far, while Nintendo has Mario Kart/Pokemon and now Monster Hunter. Of course though, its all speculation at this point.bobcheeseball
I think it's a pretty safe bet 3ds will win Japan so it's up to America to tip the scales. Uncharted is a big killer app in the U.S but I don't know if the UC/COD crowd are the type to shell out for a $250 handheld
[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]I just can't see it happen with Monster Hunter being exclusive for the 3DS at the moment. PSV has no killer apps thus far, while Nintendo has Mario Kart/Pokemon and now Monster Hunter. Of course though, its all speculation at this point.Jolt_counter119
I think it's a pretty safe bet 3ds will win Japan so it's up to America to tip the scales. Uncharted is a big killer app in the U.S but I don't know if the UC/COD crowd are the type to shell out for a $250 handheld
As good as Uncharted is, it has no chance of holding up against any Mario or Pokemon game, even in the US.It seem like there forgetting about all the 3ds title coming with the next 4-6 months
Pokemon Rumble Blast(Oct 24)
SM3DL
Sonic Generations
MK7
KI:U
Luigi's Mansion 2
In Japan
MH3G
In 2012
Paper Mario
Mario Tennis 3d
Animal Crossing
Heroes of Ruin
PS: I am no way implying the vita has no games and think it has a sweet lineupjust that the 3ds has a lot of great games coming too.
I probably won't though. And the article made some points but the points can be turned right around on vita. It may be advanced but the smart phones and tablets are already advanced. Sure they don't have buttoms but has that stopped games from selling on them, no. And while the vita and 3ds are pretty much going to have the same specs for several years, Apple and Android get new specs every year. So I don't belive vita will beat 3ds. But the way the smart phones and tablets keep evolving, by the end of that gen neither may even half what their formers sold.
IGN has been pretty sloppy with its "journalism" lately. On top of having typos in many of their articles, there are an increasing number of opinions being represented, rather than facts. While I respect the author's opinion on the Vita's marketing strategy and etc, something like this should be a blog.
IGN has been pretty sloppy with its "journalism" lately. On top of having typos in many of their articles, there are an increasing number of opinions being represented, rather than facts. While I respect the author's opinion on the Vita's marketing strategy and etc, something like this should be a blog.
YearoftheSnake5
I think it has to do with the fact that a lot of the more qualified, people who were actually good at their jobs have left recently at that site, so the people under them all got promoted instead of them going out and looking for other people to take their place when they clearly were not ready. It seems like Greg and Colin basically run that site now and they just don't know what their are doing.. They have been there long and got popular for being obnoxious while working under the good journalists there, but now that those guys are gone there is no one to contest them anymore so they can basically say whatever they want.. Its getting worse and worse every day.
IGN :D
History shows that every single console generation the hardware king sells least, usually because it is more expensive.
Both portables will suffer from port and sequel overload just you watch; accept Vita will have PS3 ports and 3DS will get sequels of all the main Ninty franchises.
I have to laugh at that statement IGN made. Because the system that has Monster Hunter will win in Japan. Period.
MH was about the only reason I had to even consider a Vita. Now that the 3DS is getting it, I have no reason to invest in yet another portable. I dont care if it is a timed exclusive, it will be awesome regardless.
Wouldn't surprise me at all if the Vita ended up beating the 3ds in sales and vice versa. What really matters fo consumers is how many good games come out for it but sales are defiantly important to a degree a larger user base means more devlopers interest which in turn means more games for the system. I expect both to do well and break 50 million total sales which should put to rest people who say mobile phone gaming has totally wiped out dedicated handheld market there is a big enough of a market for both to coexist.
IGN has some of the biggest playstation fanboys as editors. This isn't surprising at all. MFDOOM1983Sure that's why UC2 got a 10, KZ3 is AAA, LBP is AAAA, Demon's Souls won GOTY and MGS4 got an 11. Oh wait? :?
[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]IGN has some of the biggest playstation fanboys as editors. This isn't surprising at all. Mozelleple112Sure that's why UC2 got a 10, KZ3 is AAA, LBP is AAAA, Demon's Souls won GOTY and MGS4 got an 11. Oh wait? :? Actually listen to what they say on their podcasts then come back to me.
I lol @ Ninty lovers when they say the Vita has no games. Wasn't the 3DS just in that position a couple of months ago? Hell, it still doesn't have a great lineup. millerlight89But mario kart 7, mario sports, mario bros. 10 and mario and luigi changes everything.:P
[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]IGN has some of the biggest playstation fanboys as editors. This isn't surprising at all. Mozelleple112Sure that's why UC2 got a 10, KZ3 is AAA, LBP is AAAA, Demon's Souls won GOTY and MGS4 got an 11. Oh wait? :?
More than one person writes every review there. Some kid reviewed kilzone 3, UC2 got a 9.5 ... And Chris Roper reviewed it who was a good journalist but he doesn't work there anymore.. LBP was AAA, Demon Souls got a 9.4, and MGS4 got a 10... Greg, and Colin are HUGE playstation fanboys... I have no issue with them saying the PSvita will succeed because I think it will as well.. But coming up with some biased, pseudo-intellectual nonsense that is based off of false assumptions is where they go wrong...
I can give a reason why the PSVita will succeed... ITS CALLED JAPAN... They will LOOSE THEIR **** when this comes out...Thats all they needed to say really, Like I don't understand where all this smart phone, 3DS sucks nonsense is coming from or how his ridiculous opinions are relevant to anything.. Like he says Nintendo's tired old series shouldn't worry Sony... Or really? Fine you can feel however you want about Nintendo's main running series but to deny that they are sales GIANTS is just being blind. Mario Kart Wii and New Super Mario Bros. both sold like 25+ million copies.. These articles they right are just so fanboyish it just drives me nuts.. They twist their opinions and basically talk down on the reader like we don't know what we are talking about and if we think differently we are wrong. Just the gall they have is unbelievable.
iPhone destined to outsell both. Portable gaming is done, yo.enterawesomeSales with the iphone and sales with Vita and 3ds are mutually exclusive and should not be compared because I know a lot of people who bought the iPhone for a phone and have no interest and have no interest in the gaming aspect of the device.
I saw that. I loled a lot. :lol: $170 (3DS) is bound to sell more with no games than $250 (Vita) with more social features and no games.
bbkkristian
All have a chance of being solid titles. So that "no games" claim is un founded. In fact, all that Vita needs to release on their handheld for it to be a success is Call of Duty.
There are others also that I didn't include because these that I did include are supposedly launch titles or close to launch. :)
Maybe on the first week (maybe month) of it's release, but for the rest of the way? Probably not. (Not that it will change in matter of who the gaming community likes more though)
Sure that's why UC2 got a 10, KZ3 is AAA, LBP is AAAA, Demon's Souls won GOTY and MGS4 got an 11. Oh wait? :?[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]IGN has some of the biggest playstation fanboys as editors. This isn't surprising at all. VendettaRed07
More than one person writes every review there. Some kid reviewed kilzone 3, UC2 got a 9.5 ... And Chris Roper reviewed it who was a good journalist but he doesn't work there anymore.. LBP was AAA, Demon Souls got a 9.4, and MGS4 got a 10... Greg, and Colin are HUGE playstation fanboys... I have no issue with them saying the PSvita will succeed because I think it will as well.. But coming up with some biased, pseudo-intellectual nonsense that is based off of false assumptions is where they go wrong...
I can give a reason why the PSVita will succeed... ITS CALLED JAPAN... They will LOOSE THEIR **** when this comes out...Thats all they needed to say really, Like I don't understand where all this smart phone, 3DS sucks nonsense is coming from or how his ridiculous opinions are relevant to anything.. Like he says Nintendo's tired old series shouldn't worry Sony... Or really? Fine you can feel however you want about Nintendo's main running series but to deny that they are sales GIANTS is just being blind. Mario Kart Wii and New Super Mario Bros. both sold like 25+ million copies.. These articles they right are just so fanboyish it just drives me nuts.. They twist their opinions and basically talk down on the reader like we don't know what we are talking about and if we think differently we are wrong. Just the gall they have is unbelievable.
Their assumptions are not "false" they are every bit as sound as yours. They read the same internet WE do, they go to the same E3's WE do (or at least watch on the internet), they play the same console WE do. You know, since this is his JOB/living and everything.....that and the fact that hes had hands on experience with BOTH platforms.
But of course, because his perfectly sound opinion differs from your own, he must be "wrong", or "just doesnt understand" when chances are, they are more knowlegable on the subject than YOU are :roll:
im getting one. of course, i wont get one at launch, because if its anything like the PSP launch it will have a dozen dead pixels
[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]
I saw that. I loled a lot. :lol: $170 (3DS) is bound to sell more with no games than $250 (Vita) with more social features and no games.
killa4lyfe
All have a chance of being solid titles. So that "no games" claim is un founded. In fact, all that Vita needs to release on their handheld for it to be a success is Call of Duty.
There are others also that I didn't include because these that I did include are supposedly launch titles or close to launch. :)
Note that I said the 3DS had no games as well. :x While what I said is clearly false (for both Vita AND 3DS), I did that to please all the haters, both 3DS and Vita.I agree with IGN. They made that exact same prediction about the PSP outselling the DS for similar reasons, and the PS3 outselling the Wii, and they were right both times. Their track record is immaculate. There is no reason to suspect that the Vita will not outsell the 3DS. Like IGN said, it is bound to happen.charizard1605
There's no way Vita outsells 3DS, but Vita isa superior system in every way though, unlike PSP and PS3.
[QUOTE="charizard1605"]I agree with IGN. They made that exact same prediction about the PSP outselling the DS for similar reasons, and the PS3 outselling the Wii, and they were right both times. Their track record is immaculate. There is no reason to suspect that the Vita will not outsell the 3DS. Like IGN said, it is bound to happen.Giant_Panda
There's no way Vita outsells 3DS, but Vita isa superior system in every way though, unlike PSP and PS3.
Hardware wise? Yes, the Vita is better in every way. But then, so were the PS3 and PSP on a similar barometer.Yeah, and people said that about the PSP and DS as well.
How about we wait until the two of them are released and see what happens then?
[QUOTE="Giant_Panda"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]I agree with IGN. They made that exact same prediction about the PSP outselling the DS for similar reasons, and the PS3 outselling the Wii, and they were right both times. Their track record is immaculate. There is no reason to suspect that the Vita will not outsell the 3DS. Like IGN said, it is bound to happen.charizard1605
There's no way Vita outsells 3DS, but Vita isa superior system in every way though, unlike PSP and PS3.
Hardware wise? Yes, the Vita is better in every way. But then, so were the PS3 and PSP on a similar barometer.Not really. PSP and PS3 lacked the new control system, I'm not talking about graphics. Vita's got the whole package, except the games that is, though I hope that is fixed soon.
EDIT: Im not trying to come across as confrontational, hope I don't seem that way:)
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