IGN "PSVita destined to outsell the 3DS."

In a perfect world yes, the vita covered all the things that were missing in the PSP, the touch pad, the terrible hardware, the 2nd analuge stick, the UMD driver ...etc ...while 3Ds failed to bring anything new to the table, the 3D is cool but it's barely a game changing feature.

IGN basically said at the launch of the DS that no one was interested, that the system was gonna fail, and that the PSP would outsell it right out the gate. Look how that turned out. http://ds.ign.com/articles/569/569911p1.htmlcharizard1605

IGN says alot of things, and they do it just to get hits on their site (which makes them more money).

LikeI remember they said that Zelda should be more like Skyrim and that Skyrim needs multiplayer modes. They say these things just for attention, that's it. It's kind of funny too how they always jump around from fanboys to fanboys, like one week they'll say "xbox is the true hardcore gameing system" then next week they'll say "PSN is the new standard for online gaming"

But on topic, I think 3DS will sell more, but the Vita will probably do alright.

I've said this before and I'll say it again, superior tech does not guarantee victory for any handheld that competes with Nintendo. The Atari Lynx, Turboexpress, Sega Game Gear, Sega Nomad, Neo Geo Pocket, Game. Com, Wonderswan, Gizmondo, Ngage, and the PSP were all handhelds that boasted superior hardware, more features, and tried to appeal to a "mature" market when compared to Nintendo handhelds of their time.

Only two of those managed to gain some form of success. The Sega Game Gear and PSP managed to get some share of the market, but their numbers where still outclassed by Nintendo's sales.

These kinds of posts and articles were seen back in 2005 with the PSP and DS. People kept claiming the PSP would outsell the DS and dethrone Nintendo as the leader of the handheld market. Flash forward to 2011 and none of that has come to pass. The DS is still the dominant handheld and the PSP while having sold impressive numbers, is largely dead outside Japan.

Now, I have to ask. What is suddenly different about the Vita that guarantees its success against the 3DS? From the looks of it, history is repeating itself. Sony is banking on a superior handheld that blows Nintendo's offering out of the water tech wise and tries to justify the higher price by offering more features. Nintendo on the other hand is banking on their first-party games, cheaper price, and a unique feature(3D) to sell the 3DS.

Outside of more powerful systems on both end, what has changed?

I should make one thing abundantly clear before I continue. The 3DS' future is not assured at this point. Its still a young system and many things can happen to hurt its chances. But on the same token, its way to early to declare the Vita the winner when it has not even launched yet.

The most common argument that I see about the Vita is that its launch library is very good and far superior to what the 3DS offered. While that is impressive on paper, people need to keep in mind that games can be delayed, canceled, or miss the launch window due to other factors. Banking on launch titles is great for hype, but let's not make this a key advantage until the system actually launches.

And there is one other thing people seem to forget. Even if the launch lineup is impressive, that advantage will be meaningless if the Vita suffers from a game drought in the months that follow. This was something that plagued the PSP, and its still unclear if the Vita can avoid the same fate.

Fact is, this generation's handheld war was has not even started yet. The 3DS has not even been store shelves for a year and the Vita has not even launched yet. While the Vita is impressive on paper, its not on store shelves yet. There is little point in declaring it destined to outsell the 3DS if it has not found its way to consumers.

On one hand, it could outsell the 3DS and become the best selling handheld of all time. On the other hand, it could be a massive flop that leads Sony to shut down their gaming division. Truth is, the crystal ball is far too hazy to make any prediction that will be remotely accurate. How many people predicted Nintendo would slash the 3DS' price so quickly?

Maybe everyone should take a step back and wait for things to unfold.

Sony is the least inventive of current console makers. Their strategy has always seemed to be, make a console, and get a crap load of 3rd party developers to make games for them. It's worked well for them, but Nintendo has a hold on a lot of people (myself included) and their games are always fun. The only (Sony developed) game I've played that was something special was Shadow of the Colossus. Great experience. But when it comes down to it, Nintendo has a direct hand in developing many of their system sellers.

And I can't help but respect that.

*Flame shield up*

Can't spell ignorant without IGN.

PSV has a much higher chance of success than PSP had with the DS.

Couple of reasons:
1. Strong launch lineup
2. Developers express how familiar and cheaperit is in developing games with the Vita

Mind you, PSP still sold well at 70 million.

"The 3DS won't take the Vita out with n64 ports and Nintendos worn out series"

Yeah its going to take it out with fantastic software, and cheaper hardware, and a broader appeal thats what..

My god can they freaking fire Colin, I seriously hate that guy. I don't normally complain about journalists but this guy is the biggest fanboy I've ever seen.. he was a good guides writter but his opinions are horrible.

VendettaRed07

[QUOTE="Oil_rope_bombs"][QUOTE="bbkkristian"]

I saw that. I loled a lot. :lol: $170 (3DS) is bound to sell more with no games than $250 (Vita) with more social features and no games.

bbkkristian

Watch as Super Mario Land 3DS and Mario Kart 7 will make the system impossible to get at Christmas.

IGN seems to to not use logic when coming up with random articles like this.

Vita has a much narrow target market than the 3DS does. That alone should be an indication that it won't be able to outsell the 3DS.

Lets be realistic here - the 3DS will appeal to a larger market - Super Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7, Monster Hunter 3G/Monster Hunter 4 and the inevitable Pokemon ___ game will all guarantee the 3DS' success in capturing the mainstream audience, all while satisfying the core Nintendo fans and maybe even core gamers in general.

Sony's approach is going after the most dedicated gamer only. Granted, the 3DS launched at $249.99 as well (which as we saw, was the wrong decision given the demographics), launching the Vita at $249.99 for a Wifi only version and $299.99 for a 3G+Wifi version isn't going to cut it for the average consumer. The average consumer doesn't give a **** about an OLED screen or the fact that the Vita has a quad core processor - no one outside of this forum cares. On top of that Sony's going to ask you to get a game for around $39.99 I presume and you'll need that proprietary memory format if you want to save certain games like Uncharted: Golden Abyss.

The average consumer is not going to pay $400-450 for a Vita, a game and memory. The most core dedicated audience probably has no problem doing so, but the demographic that matters for this whole outselling business, won't side with Sony.

Though, none of this really matters as Sony said they're happy if the Vita outperforms the PSP - and they should be, the PSP was still a success despite the DS outselling it by a large margin, different demographics mean different expectations. IGN just failed to realize that and decided to start a war between fans of both.

I hope it will, Sony put much more time and money into the design of this device and we probably won't see stupid add ons like another analog stick because Sony thought much more about it's design, they deserve to outsell the 3DS, but in the end nobody knows what's going to happen

Sony is the least inventive of current console makers. Their strategy has always seemed to be, make a console, and get a crap load of 3rd party developers to make games for them. It's worked well for them, but Nintendo has a hold on a lot of people (myself included) and their games are always fun. The only (Sony developed) game I've played that was something special was Shadow of the Colossus. Great experience. But when it comes down to it, Nintendo has a direct hand in developing many of their system sellers.

And I can't help but respect that.

*Flame shield up*

glimpus

IGN seems to to not use logic when coming up with random articles like this.

Vita has a much narrow target market than the 3DS does. That alone should be an indication that it won't be able to outsell the 3DS.

Lets be realistic here - the 3DS will appeal to a larger market - Super Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7, Monster Hunter 3G/Monster Hunter 4 and the inevitable Pokemon ___ game will all guarantee the 3DS' success in capturing the mainstream audience, all while satisfying the core Nintendo fans and maybe even core gamers in general.

Sony's approach is going after the most dedicated gamer only. Granted, the 3DS launched at $249.99 as well (which as we saw, was the wrong decision given the demographics), launching the Vita at $249.99 for a Wifi only version and $299.99 for a 3G+Wifi version isn't going to cut it for the average consumer. The average consumer doesn't give a **** about an OLED screen or the fact that the Vita has a quad core processor - no one outside of this forum cares. On top of that Sony's going to ask you to get a game for around $39.99 I presume and you'll need that proprietary memory format if you want to save certain games like Uncharted: Golden Abyss.

The average consumer is not going to pay $400-450 for a Vita, a game and memory. The most core dedicated audience probably has no problem doing so, but the demographic that matters for this whole outselling business, won't side with Sony.

Though, none of this really matters as Sony said they're happy if the Vita outperforms the PSP - and they should be, the PSP was still a success despite the DS outselling it by a large margin, different demographics mean different expectations. IGN just failed to realize that and decided to start a war between fans of both.

Haziqonfire

[QUOTE="glimpus"]

Sony is the least inventive of current console makers. Their strategy has always seemed to be, make a console, and get a crap load of 3rd party developers to make games for them. It's worked well for them, but Nintendo has a hold on a lot of people (myself included) and their games are always fun. The only (Sony developed) game I've played that was something special was Shadow of the Colossus. Great experience. But when it comes down to it, Nintendo has a direct hand in developing many of their system sellers.

And I can't help but respect that.

*Flame shield up*

nhh18

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

IGN seems to to not use logic when coming up with random articles like this.

Vita has a much narrow target market than the 3DS does. That alone should be an indication that it won't be able to outsell the 3DS.

Lets be realistic here - the 3DS will appeal to a larger market - Super Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7, Monster Hunter 3G/Monster Hunter 4 and the inevitable Pokemon ___ game will all guarantee the 3DS' success in capturing the mainstream audience, all while satisfying the core Nintendo fans and maybe even core gamers in general.

Sony's approach is going after the most dedicated gamer only. Granted, the 3DS launched at $249.99 as well (which as we saw, was the wrong decision given the demographics), launching the Vita at $249.99 for a Wifi only version and $299.99 for a 3G+Wifi version isn't going to cut it for the average consumer. The average consumer doesn't give a **** about an OLED screen or the fact that the Vita has a quad core processor - no one outside of this forum cares. On top of that Sony's going to ask you to get a game for around $39.99 I presume and you'll need that proprietary memory format if you want to save certain games like Uncharted: Golden Abyss.

The average consumer is not going to pay $400-450 for a Vita, a game and memory. The most core dedicated audience probably has no problem doing so, but the demographic that matters for this whole outselling business, won't side with Sony.

Though, none of this really matters as Sony said they're happy if the Vita outperforms the PSP - and they should be, the PSP was still a success despite the DS outselling it by a large margin, different demographics mean different expectations. IGN just failed to realize that and decided to start a war between fans of both.

nhh18

In Japan, it is. It sells like candy out there.

I lol @ Ninty lovers when they say the Vita has no games. Wasn't the 3DS just in that position a couple of months ago? Hell, it still doesn't have a great lineup. millerlight89

and its still selling at an incredible rate. what you think is going to happen when it does get games? the topic on hand is about outselling the 3ds though anythingcould happen i just dk this article is poorly written

The Good: Vita is launching with a system-seller game.

The Bad: Vita is launching with a system-seller game that requires a memory card (at least, that is the rumor).

Ugh. They really should've tried their hardest to get Uncharted saves directly on to the cartridge.

People who want to pay the minimum will invest in a small memory card size. But, that group may pay for it in the long run by not getting discount-priced digital downloads, being forced to carry around cartridges at their inconvenience, and having little space to access the PSP backlibrary.

The Vita's starting price looked good when it was announced, but now the initial expense feels more and more out of most impulse consumers' price range. They're entering a market with a $169 3DS, $199 iPod Touch, and smartphones/tablets everywhere. Not good.

I don't really know how to call this one. It'd be a shame to see it do badly, but I don't see how it competes all that well with the 3DS. And I don't say that as someone who believes the 3DS has a super-strong future ahead of it, either. I am skeptical the 3DS will sell even half as well as the DS did in the long-haul.

The Good: Vita is launching with a system-seller game.

The Bad: Vita is launching with a system-seller game that requires a memory card (at least, that is the rumor).

Ugh. They really should've tried their hardest to get Uncharted saves directly on to the cartridge.

People who want to pay the minimum will invest in a small memory card size. But, that group may pay for it in the long run by not getting discount-priced digital downloads, being forced to carry around cartridges at their inconvenience, and having little space to access the PSP backlibrary.

The Vita's starting price looked good when it was announced, but now the initial expense feels more and more out of most impulse consumers' price range. They're entering a market with a $169 3DS, $199 iPod Touch, and smartphones/tablets everywhere. Not good.

I don't really know how to call this one. It'd be a shame to see it do badly, but I don't see how it competes all that well with the 3DS. And I don't say that as someone who believes the 3DS has a super-strong future ahead of it, either. I am skeptical the 3DS will sell even half as well as the DS did in the long-haul.

SakusEnvoy

Forgot about the memory cards lol. Aren't they expensive too? Well at least Gravity Rush doesn't require one which is what I'm mostly interested in.

The Good: Vita is launching with a system-seller game.

The Bad: Vita is launching with a system-seller game that requires a memory card (at least, that is the rumor).

Ugh. They really should've tried their hardest to get Uncharted saves directly on to the cartridge.

People who want to pay the minimum will invest in a small memory card size. But, that group may pay for it in the long run by not getting discount-priced digital downloads, being forced to carry around cartridges at their inconvenience, and having little space to access the PSP backlibrary.

The Vita's starting price looked good when it was announced, but now the initial expense feels more and more out of most impulse consumers' price range. They're entering a market with a $169 3DS, $199 iPod Touch, and smartphones/tablets everywhere. Not good.

I don't really know how to call this one. It'd be a shame to see it do badly, but I don't see how it competes all that well with the 3DS. And I don't say that as someone who believes the 3DS has a super-strong future ahead of it, either. I am skeptical the 3DS will sell even half as well as the DS did in the long-haul.

SakusEnvoy

This is a fake rumor.You don't need the memory card to play and save your games on the PSVita.You can save your game directly on to the cartridge.The memory card Is need for the downloads from PSN,movies and music files.

PSV has a much higher chance of success than PSP had with the DS.

Couple of reasons:
1. Strong launch lineup
2. Developers express how familiar and cheaperit is in developing games with the Vita

Mind you, PSP still sold well at 70 million.

nitekids2004

i have a hard time believeing the vita is cheaper to make games for then the 3ds

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

The Good: Vita is launching with a system-seller game.

The Bad: Vita is launching with a system-seller game that requires a memory card (at least, that is the rumor).

Ugh. They really should've tried their hardest to get Uncharted saves directly on to the cartridge.

People who want to pay the minimum will invest in a small memory card size. But, that group may pay for it in the long run by not getting discount-priced digital downloads, being forced to carry around cartridges at their inconvenience, and having little space to access the PSP backlibrary.

The Vita's starting price looked good when it was announced, but now the initial expense feels more and more out of most impulse consumers' price range. They're entering a market with a $169 3DS, $199 iPod Touch, and smartphones/tablets everywhere. Not good.

I don't really know how to call this one. It'd be a shame to see it do badly, but I don't see how it competes all that well with the 3DS. And I don't say that as someone who believes the 3DS has a super-strong future ahead of it, either. I am skeptical the 3DS will sell even half as well as the DS did in the long-haul.

AtariKidX

I hope it will, Sony put much more time and money into the design of this device and we probably won't see stupid add ons like another analog stick because Sony thought much more about it's design, they deserve to outsell the 3DS, but in the end nobody knows what's going to happen

ArchoNils2

they relly didnt they added a second analog and touch functionalities its not hard to hear consistent negative aspects of your first device to change that around in your second.....

[QUOTE="glimpus"]

Sony is the least inventive of current console makers. Their strategy has always seemed to be, make a console, and get a crap load of 3rd party developers to make games for them. It's worked well for them, but Nintendo has a hold on a lot of people (myself included) and their games are always fun. The only (Sony developed) game I've played that was something special was Shadow of the Colossus. Great experience. But when it comes down to it, Nintendo has a direct hand in developing many of their system sellers.

And I can't help but respect that.

*Flame shield up*

nhh18

there both not innovative saying the vita is more inovative is bs as well then

The Good: Vita is launching with a system-seller game.

The Bad: Vita is launching with a system-seller game that requires a memory card (at least, that is the rumor).

Ugh. They really should've tried their hardest to get Uncharted saves directly on to the cartridge.

People who want to pay the minimum will invest in a small memory card size. But, that group may pay for it in the long run by not getting discount-priced digital downloads, being forced to carry around cartridges at their inconvenience, and having little space to access the PSP backlibrary.

The Vita's starting price looked good when it was announced, but now the initial expense feels more and more out of most impulse consumers' price range. They're entering a market with a $169 3DS, $199 iPod Touch, and smartphones/tablets everywhere. Not good.

I don't really know how to call this one. It'd be a shame to see it do badly, but I don't see how it competes all that well with the 3DS. And I don't say that as someone who believes the 3DS has a super-strong future ahead of it, either. I am skeptical the 3DS will sell even half as well as the DS did in the long-haul.

SakusEnvoy

what system seller game? sony hoenstly has o system sellers besides GT

[QUOTE="ArchoNils2"]

I hope it will, Sony put much more time and money into the design of this device and we probably won't see stupid add ons like another analog stick because Sony thought much more about it's design, they deserve to outsell the 3DS, but in the end nobody knows what's going to happen

Mario1331

they relly didnt they added a second analog and touch functionalities its not hard to hear consistent negative aspects of your first device to change that around in your second.....

Apparenty pretty hard for Nintendo:P

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"][QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

The Good: Vita is launching with a system-seller game.

The Bad: Vita is launching with a system-seller game that requires a memory card (at least, that is the rumor).

Ugh. They really should've tried their hardest to get Uncharted saves directly on to the cartridge.

People who want to pay the minimum will invest in a small memory card size. But, that group may pay for it in the long run by not getting discount-priced digital downloads, being forced to carry around cartridges at their inconvenience, and having little space to access the PSP backlibrary.

The Vita's starting price looked good when it was announced, but now the initial expense feels more and more out of most impulse consumers' price range. They're entering a market with a $169 3DS, $199 iPod Touch, and smartphones/tablets everywhere. Not good.

I don't really know how to call this one. It'd be a shame to see it do badly, but I don't see how it competes all that well with the 3DS. And I don't say that as someone who believes the 3DS has a super-strong future ahead of it, either. I am skeptical the 3DS will sell even half as well as the DS did in the long-haul.

SakusEnvoy

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="ArchoNils2"]

I hope it will, Sony put much more time and money into the design of this device and we probably won't see stupid add ons like another analog stick because Sony thought much more about it's design, they deserve to outsell the 3DS, but in the end nobody knows what's going to happen

Jolt_counter119

they relly didnt they added a second analog and touch functionalities its not hard to hear consistent negative aspects of your first device to change that around in your second.....

Apparenty pretty hard for Nintendo:P

yea they are dumb too for not adding two analogs idk what they were thinking at that one....maybe the touch screened out way most of the bad of it not having two analogs i assume but still pretty dumb move

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

The Good: Vita is launching with a system-seller game.

The Bad: Vita is launching with a system-seller game that requires a memory card (at least, that is the rumor).

Ugh. They really should've tried their hardest to get Uncharted saves directly on to the cartridge.

People who want to pay the minimum will invest in a small memory card size. But, that group may pay for it in the long run by not getting discount-priced digital downloads, being forced to carry around cartridges at their inconvenience, and having little space to access the PSP backlibrary.

The Vita's starting price looked good when it was announced, but now the initial expense feels more and more out of most impulse consumers' price range. They're entering a market with a $169 3DS, $199 iPod Touch, and smartphones/tablets everywhere. Not good.

I don't really know how to call this one. It'd be a shame to see it do badly, but I don't see how it competes all that well with the 3DS. And I don't say that as someone who believes the 3DS has a super-strong future ahead of it, either. I am skeptical the 3DS will sell even half as well as the DS did in the long-haul.

Mario1331

what system seller game? sony hoenstly has o system sellers besides GT

But with this memory card issue, if true, I think it's going to hurt Uncharted Vita sales.

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

The Good: Vita is launching with a system-seller game.

The Bad: Vita is launching with a system-seller game that requires a memory card (at least, that is the rumor).

Ugh. They really should've tried their hardest to get Uncharted saves directly on to the cartridge.

People who want to pay the minimum will invest in a small memory card size. But, that group may pay for it in the long run by not getting discount-priced digital downloads, being forced to carry around cartridges at their inconvenience, and having little space to access the PSP backlibrary.

The Vita's starting price looked good when it was announced, but now the initial expense feels more and more out of most impulse consumers' price range. They're entering a market with a $169 3DS, $199 iPod Touch, and smartphones/tablets everywhere. Not good.

I don't really know how to call this one. It'd be a shame to see it do badly, but I don't see how it competes all that well with the 3DS. And I don't say that as someone who believes the 3DS has a super-strong future ahead of it, either. I am skeptical the 3DS will sell even half as well as the DS did in the long-haul.

SakusEnvoy

what system seller game? sony hoenstly has o system sellers besides GT

But with this memory card issue, if true, I think it's going to hurt Uncharted Vita sales.

cant deny UNCHarted GA s coming out in a good time for vita to get a better sales spike i heard you do need to buy Memory cards for vita and they are a certain type of memory card its not teh reg standard ones that majority of electronics use

Even if it is true....a 4GB memory is very cheap 29$.I don't have any problem with that.AtariKidX

But later, I might regret that I didn't purchase a bigger memory card due to the limitations, especially if I identified a bunch of PSP games I'd like to play during a dearth inbetween releases. And then I'd have to shell out big money for a bigger memory card, and my old memory card would then become useless (unless I went through the trouble of ebaying it). People don't want to pay big money for a memory card the day they buy a new system, because there's "sticker shock" over how much money they're spending.

At the end of the day, that's $30 I shouldn't have to pay if Sony had simply tried harder to get game saves onto the cartridge. They left out internal storage, so I really think it was very important that they offer cartridge-saves. Nobody likes having to go out and buy extra accessories on day one... they want to buy the system, pickout the best launch game, and go home and play it. Even better is when the system comes with a great launch game, but that rarely happens for understandable reasons.

I know it might seem like just a little thing, one that shouldn't affect sales much, but these kind of minor things can hurt hardware/software sales. They should've supported SD Cards like everyone else in the world, but I suppose the influence of Microsoft (proprietary storage = profit!) and the threat of piracy ensured it wasn't gonna happen. And yet, Nintendo seems totally comfortable offering an easily removeable SD Card on their system... gotta give them credit there.

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"] You don't need the memory card to play and save your games on the PSVita.You can save your game directly on to the cartridge.The memory card Is need for the downloads from PSN,movies and music files.AtariKidX

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"][QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"] That is what I assumed, but the latest info from Kotaku Japan seems to indicate otherwise: http://kotaku.com/5852609/for-some-game-saves-the-vita-needs-help. Supposedly, this information comes straight from Sony too. A real bummer.

AmazonTreeBoa

http://kotaku.com/5852609/for-some-game-saves-the-vita-needs-help

4GB memory card (¥2,200 or US$29) and 8GB memory card (¥3,200 or $42)

and here

http://bestpsp2games.blogspot.com/2011/06/sony-ps-vita-memory-cards.html

4GB memory card - 2200 Yen - $28.60
8GB memory card - 3200 yen - $42
16GB memory card-5500yen - $72
32GB card - 9500 yen - $123.50
The price will be cheaper outside Japan

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

PSV has a much higher chance of success than PSP had with the DS.

Couple of reasons:
1. Strong launch lineup
2. Developers express how familiar and cheaper it is in developing games with the Vita

Mind you, PSP still sold well at 70 million.

Mario1331

i have a hard time believeing the vita is cheaper to make games for then the 3ds

Well, i may have worded it wrongly :P

What I meant was they found it easier and cheaperthan they thought it would be.

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

PSV has a much higher chance of success than PSP had with the DS.

Couple of reasons:
1. Strong launch lineup
2. Developers express how familiar and cheaper it is in developing games with the Vita

Mind you, PSP still sold well at 70 million.

nitekids2004

i have a hard time believeing the vita is cheaper to make games for then the 3ds

Well, i may have worded it wrongly :P

What I meant was they found it easier and cheaperthan they thought it would be.

that i can agree with

I like that vita has seperate memory for saves I would never want them on the game cartridge, or how some are locked to the hard drive on home consoles

Yea, I don't get it from IGN. They can't honestly believe that, they work in the industry, so they have to be doing it just for the site traffic. No one, in their right mind, thinks the Vita will outsell the 3DS. If Nintendo can't sell a handheld at $250 with Legend of Zelda, what makes people think Sony can with an other wise unknown Nathan Drake in comparison to Nintendo's mascots? Also, the 3DS will have a huge lead by the time the Vita is available everywhere, and its not like everyone cared about the PSP and the Vita basically has the same approach of being a "Me too" handheld that can play almost console-like games. bonesawisready5

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

i have a hard time believeing the vita is cheaper to make games for then the 3ds

Mario1331

Well, i may have worded it wrongly :P

What I meant was they found it easier and cheaperthan they thought it would be.

that i can agree with

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Well, i may have worded it wrongly :P

What I meant was they found it easier and cheaperthan they thought it would be.

bonesawisready5

that i can agree with

Developers will look to the Vita and say "hey we can develop this game for the Vita in addition to the PS3!" and it will inevitably get way too many console ports like the PSP. I really think Sony making their handheld too much like their home consoles is a problem and it gives their handhelds an identity crisis.bonesawisready5

this is a bit oversimplified... In japan at least, portables are becoming the lead console for game development. While the PSP had many console ports, it also has a lot of original games that are very good (especially JRPGs). I think the Vita will be the same because of the conditions of the japanese market. Western game development is the only question mark.

Also, "console-like" experiences are the only reason to own a dedicated handheld device. What seperates the DS and PSP from the AppsStore and games on Android devices is that you can find full-featured, high-quality gaming experiences. If I want pick up and play I'll use my iPod to game on the go. Ninty is crazy if they think that the Brain Age/Sudoku/Tetris audience is still going to buy thier system (which they don't considering that they have secured some decent 3rd party support in Japan).

All that being said... the Vita will probably gain a lot of gamer cred, but it probably will not outsell the 3DS.

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="AtariKidX"] Even if it is true....a 4GB memory is very cheap 29$.I don't have any problem with that.AtariKidX

http://kotaku.com/5852609/for-some-game-saves-the-vita-needs-help

4GB memory card (¥2,200 or US$29) and 8GB memory card (¥3,200 or $42)

and here

http://bestpsp2games.blogspot.com/2011/06/sony-ps-vita-memory-cards.html

4GB memory card - 2200 Yen - $28.60
8GB memory card - 3200 yen - $42
16GB memory card-5500yen - $72
32GB card - 9500 yen - $123.50
The price will be cheaper outside Japan

[QUOTE="93BlackHawk93"]

Ha, won't happen.

Santesyu

Maby in Japan but I don't see it happening here, most people don't even know it exists....

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

that i can agree with

[QUOTE="Jolt_counter119"]

I hope so. It's obvious the Sony Designers and engineers put a lot more thought, effort, and actual concern in a gaming point of view while the making the Vita while the 3ds is a mess. But alas 3ds has Pokemon and now Monster Hunter.

StrongDeadlift

Just like the PS3 "had" Gran Turismo 5, Metal Gear Solid 4, God of War 3, etc...

Did these games make the PS3 suddenly blast past the 360? Nope. They were good games that simply came and went.

3DS vs VITA arguements are almost identicall to PS3 vs 360 arguements at the beginning of the gen.