IGN "PSVita destined to outsell the 3DS."

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IGN has been pretty sloppy with its "journalism" lately. On top of having typos in many of their articles, there are an increasing number of opinions being represented, rather than facts. While I respect the author's opinion on the Vita's marketing strategy and etc, something like this should be a blog.

VendettaRed07

I think it has to do with the fact that a lot of the more qualified, people who were actually good at their jobs have left recently at that site, so the people under them all got promoted instead of them going out and looking for other people to take their place when they clearly were not ready. It seems like Greg and Colin basically run that site now and they just don't know what their are doing.. They have been there long and got popular for being obnoxious while working under the good journalists there, but now that those guys are gone there is no one to contest them anymore so they can basically say whatever they want.. Its getting worse and worse every day.

That wouldn't surprise me. I really started noticing typos and blatant bias about a year ago. Then, the plethora of Nintendo/3DS doomsday articles came out almost daily at IGN. After reading each one, I would think to myself, "WHY ISN'T THIS A BLOG?!" Their credibility is gone, in my eyes. They seem to be going in a direction similar to G4. Who knows, maybe if the Vita doesn't sell well, we'll see a bunch of anti-Sony articles.

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I hope so. It's obvious the Sony Designers and engineers put a lot more thought, effort, and actual concern in a gaming point of view while the making the Vita while the 3ds is a mess. But alas 3ds has Pokemon and now Monster Hunter.

APiranhaAteMyVa

Just like the PS3 "had" Gran Turismo 5, Metal Gear Solid 4, God of War 3, etc...

Did these games make the PS3 suddenly blast past the 360? Nope. They were good games that simply came and went.

3DS vs VITA arguements are almost identicall to PS3 vs 360 arguements at the beginning of the gen.

we dont understand simple logic here, its not allowed!:evil:

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Sony is the least inventive of current console makers. Their strategy has always seemed to be, make a console, and get a crap load of 3rd party developers to make games for them. It's worked well for them, but Nintendo has a hold on a lot of people (myself included) and their games are always fun. The only (Sony developed) game I've played that was something special was Shadow of the Colossus. Great experience. But when it comes down to it, Nintendo has a direct hand in developing many of their system sellers.

And I can't help but respect that.

*Flame shield up*

nhh18

Changing the way games are viewed, adding actual depth to the visual experience IS something new, and it's pretty dramatic. Video games are an immensly visual medium (obviously) and something like this just adds more to the experience, it's almost as dramatic as moving from SD to HD gaming. The 3DS features a new way to view games, with gyroscope and touch screen abilities. What's so great about the Vita (aside from it's hardware strength?) The PSP was stronger than the DS, but the DS still won.

From the first Gameboy, to Virtual Boy (a huge dud, I know) to the DS and Wii, Nintendo has done a decent job at trying new things. What has Sony done? PSX. PS2. PSP. PS3. The consoles were all essentially the same idea, buy tons of 3rd party games and put them on the system, with either CD support, DVD support, or Blu Ray support.

PSP was pretty good, but many of the games were found on PS2 and really, I like my portables to offer something different in terms of games. And yes, you can argue that all Nintendo does is rehash old franchises, but taking the same basic idea, and building upon it, and creating a new experience within the same world and having people love it is a huge thing in itself.

Sony Move was just a rip off of the Wii, and at least Kinect was a different take on motion gaming. Now I'm not even a huge fan of motion gaming, but the fact that Nintendo is trying to create new ways to experience games is something Sony lacks.

Sony is the least innovative over the three main video game console makers. That said, Vita might be good, but it's looking like it's offering games that many people can buy or have already bought for PS3.

Nintendo has always been in the business of making games, to me it seems Sony is in the business of buying them.

^^ Oddly enough sony and MS both had 3d titles before 3DS launched. But lets forget about that and pretend nintendo is bringing something new to the table with 3ds.

Vita will be a great console, but you're a tool if you think it will outsell the 3DS.

I mean, there's always the chance that it will, but its "destined" to? LOL

^^ Oddly enough sony and MS both had 3d titles before 3DS launched. But lets forget about that and pretend nintendo is bringing something new to the table with 3ds.

MFDOOM1983

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^^ Oddly enough sony and MS both had 3d titles before 3DS launched. But lets forget about that and pretend nintendo is bringing something new to the table with 3ds.

lordlors

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[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"] Please stop, no one knows what the launch line up is officially for regions other than JP. It could be terrible, and most likely will be. All launches are mediocre. Developers will look to the Vita and say "hey we can develop this game for the Vita in addition to the PS3!" and it will inevitably get way too many console ports like the PSP. I really think Sony making their handheld too much like their home consoles is a problem and it gives their handhelds an identity crisis. Whereas, Nintendo at least we know the Wii ports to 3DS will stop once the Wii U releases. Additionally, you don't see Advance Wars, or Pokemon 2D RPGs on the Wii.layton2012

Sorry sheep but its destiny!!!!!

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Well, i may have worded it wrongly :P

What I meant was they found it easier and cheaperthan they thought it would be.

bonesawisready5

that i can agree with

People said that about the PSP as well. TBH, I don't mind it.

PSP still had a great collection of exclusive games.

If the handheld gods can't sell a $250 handheld, then Sony sure as hell won't be able to.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]If the handheld gods can't sell a $250 handheld, then Sony sure as hell won't be able to.p4s2p0

That's a lot of money for a portable. A lot of people have a hard time justifying that much on a home console.

^^ Oddly enough sony and MS both had 3d titles before 3DS launched. But lets forget about that and pretend nintendo is bringing something new to the table with 3ds.

MFDOOM1983

Have you checked out AR technology? It's pretty wild. Arguably more so than anything the Vita's got. Oh yeah, double analog sticks. That's about the only thing the Vita has over the 3DS, which would be useful for FPS's.. which are usually played on PC's or home consoles anyway.

^^ Oddly enough sony and MS both had 3d titles before 3DS launched. But lets forget about that and pretend nintendo is bringing something new to the table with 3ds.

MFDOOM1983

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^^ Oddly enough sony and MS both had 3d titles before 3DS launched. But lets forget about that and pretend nintendo is bringing something new to the table with 3ds.

layton2012

[QUOTE="lordlors"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

^^ Oddly enough sony and MS both had 3d titles before 3DS launched. But lets forget about that and pretend nintendo is bringing something new to the table with 3ds.

MFDOOM1983

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

^^ Oddly enough sony and MS both had 3d titles before 3DS launched. But lets forget about that and pretend nintendo is bringing something new to the table with 3ds.

glimpus

Have you checked out AR technology? It's pretty wild. Arguably more so than anything the Vita's got. Oh yeah, double analog sticks. That's about the only thing the Vita has over the 3DS, which would be useful for FPS's.. which are usually played on PC's or home consoles anyway.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]If the handheld gods can't sell a $250 handheld, then Sony sure as hell won't be able to.p4s2p0

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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

^^ Oddly enough sony and MS both had 3d titles before 3DS launched. But lets forget about that and pretend nintendo is bringing something new to the table with 3ds.

MFDOOM1983

Have you checked out AR technology? It's pretty wild. Arguably more so than anything the Vita's got. Oh yeah, double analog sticks. That's about the only thing the Vita has over the 3DS, which would be useful for FPS's.. which are usually played on PC's or home consoles anyway.

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]If the handheld gods can't sell a $250 handheld, then Sony sure as hell won't be able to.Dibdibdobdobo

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="lordlors"] I didn't know Sony and MS produced 3D titles that can be played anywhere and don't require glasses.lordlors

For ps3/360 its the tv that needs to be glasses free not the console

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]If the handheld gods can't sell a $250 handheld, then Sony sure as hell won't be able to.Dibdibdobdobo

The PSVita SHOULD outsell the 3DS but I really doubt it will.

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="p4s2p0"] Sony ppl are used to paying more, for more tech. N ppl look at me funny when I tell them I paid 500(at best buy) for launch psp memory card and 1 game

bonesawisready5

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"] So you get ripped off and that automatically means "Sony people are expected to pay more" lol. Reason people look at you weird is because Sony seen you coming from a mile away with your big bag of monies.p4s2p0

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"] So you get ripped off and that automatically means "Sony people are expected to pay more" lol. Reason people look at you weird is because Sony seen you coming from a mile away with your big bag of monies.p4s2p0

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[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"] Apple could've said the same about the iPad when deciding the pricing, they could've priced it at $700-$1200 for the base 16GB WiFi model But they were aggressive. You don't just assume people are use to paying more for your product. If Nintendo can't sell a 3DS for $250 on the heels of Zelda OOT 3D, and with some piggy back support from Pokemon Black/White (even though they were on DS) then Sony won't be able to get Uncharted to sell units at a better rate. The 3DS will have a 12-15 million unit lead by the time the Vita is available everywhere. It can't catch up, it doesn't even have Monster Hunter, Dragon Quest, an original Final Fantasy yet, Mario, Pokemon, or Zelda. It literally, as of this moment, has only Sony IPs and third party IPs that while well and good, aren't system sellers. bonesawisready5

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[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"] Apple could've said the same about the iPad when deciding the pricing, they could've priced it at $700-$1200 for the base 16GB WiFi model But they were aggressive. You don't just assume people are use to paying more for your product. If Nintendo can't sell a 3DS for $250 on the heels of Zelda OOT 3D, and with some piggy back support from Pokemon Black/White (even though they were on DS) then Sony won't be able to get Uncharted to sell units at a better rate. The 3DS will have a 12-15 million unit lead by the time the Vita is available everywhere. It can't catch up, it doesn't even have Monster Hunter, Dragon Quest, an original Final Fantasy yet, Mario, Pokemon, or Zelda. It literally, as of this moment, has only Sony IPs and third party IPs that while well and good, aren't system sellers. bonesawisready5

Dont doubt the exper... :lol: cant even joke about it. Shut up ign and give us news.

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[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"] Apple could've said the same about the iPad when deciding the pricing, they could've priced it at $700-$1200 for the base 16GB WiFi model But they were aggressive. You don't just assume people are use to paying more for your product. If Nintendo can't sell a 3DS for $250 on the heels of Zelda OOT 3D, and with some piggy back support from Pokemon Black/White (even though they were on DS) then Sony won't be able to get Uncharted to sell units at a better rate. The 3DS will have a 12-15 million unit lead by the time the Vita is available everywhere. It can't catch up, it doesn't even have Monster Hunter, Dragon Quest, an original Final Fantasy yet, Mario, Pokemon, or Zelda. It literally, as of this moment, has only Sony IPs and third party IPs that while well and good, aren't system sellers. bonesawisready5

The VITA VERSION on the other hand will be a lot more similar to the PS360 versions, so I garauntee the Vita COD's will sell tremendously

/argument.

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"][QUOTE="p4s2p0"] So call of duty isn't a system seller they are #1 on ps3/360, and I'm sure vita will get another MH and FF. No need to mention the rest they have always been exlusivce to N and not of intrest to psp/vita ppl.

rasengan2552

The VITA VERSION on the other hand will be a lot more similar to the PS360 versions, so I garauntee the Vita COD's will sell tremendously

/argument.

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[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"] COD is a system seller on those platforms. COD sold terribly on the PSP, and it had many good COD versions on the DS and while they were nice, they didn't sell great either. Nor did the Wii CODs, so the arguement is invalid Sure, Vita will get FF, and it remains to be seen if it gets MH. But when is it too late? An original Kingdom Hearts, two new IPs from Square Enix, a new Dragon Quest spin off all for 3DS, yet not much for the Vita. Square will bring support for the Vita, but its shaping up to be just like the PSP/DS where whenever the PSP gets 1-2 good games from Square then the DS gets 5 good games from them.El_Zo1212o

The VITA VERSION on the other hand will be a lot more similar to the PS360 versions, so I garauntee the Vita COD's will sell tremendously

/argument.

Ds didn't have online capabilities so I see your point. But psp does and I have enjoyed playing shooters online just as much as I did on pc/home consoles.

I haven't tried a modern day cod so it will be intresting to try on vita.

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[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"] COD is a system seller on those platforms. COD sold terribly on the PSP, and it had many good COD versions on the DS and while they were nice, they didn't sell great either. Nor did the Wii CODs, so the arguement is invalid Sure, Vita will get FF, and it remains to be seen if it gets MH. But when is it too late? An original Kingdom Hearts, two new IPs from Square Enix, a new Dragon Quest spin off all for 3DS, yet not much for the Vita. Square will bring support for the Vita, but its shaping up to be just like the PSP/DS where whenever the PSP gets 1-2 good games from Square then the DS gets 5 good games from them.El_Zo1212o

The VITA VERSION on the other hand will be a lot more similar to the PS360 versions, so I garauntee the Vita COD's will sell tremendously

/argument.

The DS versions of COD had online MP ...rasengan2552

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"]The DS versions of COD had online MP ...El_Zo1212o

Unless they can play cross platform with PS3 players. If they can swing that, then Vita will most definately have earned the right to those sales. Matter of fact, if the Vita CoD can play online with the whole PS3 community, then I'd have a reason to fear the first Nintendo defeat in the handheld space.

No one I know is getting the vita, while plenty of people already have a 3ds. I don't think the vita will ever outsell the 3ds. It has one killer app: uncharted. If someone isn't interested in Uncharted, they'd never get a vita. The 3ds has multiple must haves for me: mario, pokemon, zelda, animal crossing. Vita may have some nice graphics and a big screen, but hey, that's what my gaming pc is for.YoshiYogurt

Yeah... That isn't going to happen.

[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"]No one I know is getting the vita, while plenty of people already have a 3ds. I don't think the vita will ever outsell the 3ds. It has one killer app: uncharted. If someone isn't interested in Uncharted, they'd never get a vita. The 3ds has multiple must haves for me: mario, pokemon, zelda, animal crossing. Vita may have some nice graphics and a big screen, but hey, that's what my gaming pc is for.AtariKidX

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"][QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"]No one I know is getting the vita, while plenty of people already have a 3ds. I don't think the vita will ever outsell the 3ds. It has one killer app: uncharted. If someone isn't interested in Uncharted, they'd never get a vita. The 3ds has multiple must haves for me: mario, pokemon, zelda, animal crossing. Vita may have some nice graphics and a big screen, but hey, that's what my gaming pc is for.layton2012

3DS it have a lot more inevitable flaws.PSVita it is a masterpiece.......it is the Future.AtariKidX

Oh Atari. :P

Still spreading the Sony word, eh?

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"][QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"]No one I know is getting the vita, while plenty of people already have a 3ds. I don't think the vita will ever outsell the 3ds. It has one killer app: uncharted. If someone isn't interested in Uncharted, they'd never get a vita. The 3ds has multiple must haves for me: mario, pokemon, zelda, animal crossing. Vita may have some nice graphics and a big screen, but hey, that's what my gaming pc is for.layton2012

[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"][QUOTE="rasengan2552"] Sure did. And much like on DS, no one is going to buy the Vita CoDs for the online play.

Unless they can play cross platform with PS3 players. If they can swing that, then Vita will most definately have earned the right to those sales. Matter of fact, if the Vita CoD can play online with the whole PS3 community, then I'd have a reason to fear the first Nintendo defeat in the handheld space.p4s2p0

... I'm getting vita and and not for uncharted(haven't tried yet will on vita) I'm more interested in sony other killer apps like resistance,socom,killzone,god of war. For the last comment but I can't play pc portably unelss you count a big laptop/tablet.p4s2p0

[QUOTE="layton2012"][QUOTE="AtariKidX"] I know many that they will sell the 3DS for the PSVita.AtariKidX

play between 10-12 games on it where my 3DS was in hand on launch day and I'll end up having a collection of at least 40 games for it.El_Zo1212o