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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]The games he listed are perfectly valid since we go by GameSpot's scores here. The only reason IGN is being used now is because (unless I'm mistaken) GS doesn't have a Haze review up yet.
So, yeah, aside from Resistance, all of those games he listed are fine.
BreakingPoint8
So it's fair to say Mass Effect is a flop?
Yep, and many already did. Where were you? :?
That is just so ridiculous to me. Anybody in their right mind can think outside of system wars and see Mass Effect isnt a flop.
Maybe I'm not "playing by the rules" but I think that's so ridiculous if someone calls Mass Effect or Resistance a flop.
Anybody in their right mind sure, but take a good look around you man.*Falls to knees... looks to the sky... fist in the air*
NNNOOOOOOOOOO!!!
:lol:
[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]The games he listed are perfectly valid since we go by GameSpot's scores here. The only reason IGN is being used now is because (unless I'm mistaken) GS doesn't have a Haze review up yet.
So, yeah, aside from Resistance, all of those games he listed are fine.
carljohnson3456
So it's fair to say Mass Effect is a flop?
Yep, and many already did. Where were you? :?
That is just so ridiculous to me. Anybody in their right mind can think outside of system wars and see Mass Effect isnt a flop.
Maybe I'm not "playing by the rules" but I think that's so ridiculous if someone calls Mass Effect or Resistance a flop.
System Wars has its rules just like everything else. If we don't follow them, everything will just be anarchy, with flops being declared left and right. Mass Effect was hyped AAA and scored AA so by System Wars terms, it's a flop. Just because I follow the "rules" of System Wars while I'm here doesn't mean I live by them everywhere.
I'm just going by System Wars terms, terms I could give less than a **** about in real life.
[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]The games he listed are perfectly valid since we go by GameSpot's scores here. The only reason IGN is being used now is because (unless I'm mistaken) GS doesn't have a Haze review up yet.
So, yeah, aside from Resistance, all of those games he listed are fine.
-hells-
So it's fair to say Mass Effect is a flop?
Yep, and many already did. Where were you? :?
This is the worst bit of fanboyism ever.agreeing that mass effect was a flop just so that you can make ps3 look bad .Mass effect was not a flop,just like ratchet is not a flop and uncharted is not a flop.If people still care for
GS scores then I have lost my faith in humanity
Okay. You can take it like that if you want.
I can guarantee that I won't be losing any sleep over it. :wink:
wow...
The next Timesplitters better not suck, or I will seriously crawl under a table and cry. FOR WEEKS.
Haze is not a flop IMO
It is obvious M$ paid IGN to give haze a bad score, if they didn't why else would other reviews give it 9/10 like PSM?
It isnt a flop until there are more reviews
PS_John
:|
So you still believe eh?
"That being said, you are going to have to put up with some extremely weak visuals within Haze. There is a litany of problems with the game, from the odd warping of allied soldiers that blink into view suddenly at arbitrary checkpoints to poor texture work. Many of the environmental textures are generic and weak, and you'll frequently see seams or tearing constantly pop up within the game, which distracts from the action onscreen."
This, AND it's not even high defenition.
Teh cell, people! TEH CELL!
The cows are officially owned. GS is likely to not score very far from IGN's, and the demo was utter poo, so I'd say all hope is lost.
[QUOTE="PS_John"]Haze is not a flop IMO
It is obvious M$ paid IGN to give haze a bad score, if they didn't why else would other reviews give it 9/10 like PSM?
It isnt a flop until there are more reviews
InsaneBasura
:|
So you still believe eh?
I think hes fakeboying with a oh-so-subtle dig at PSM giving it 9/10. PSM FTW! :PFree Radical are officially owned as well. I bet they'll somehow try and spin this to try and make Halo 3 sound crap.
Funnily enough my friend's mum went into Currys the other day and the staff were playing Haze. Being a bit of a gamer herself she asked what they were playing. They replied:
"It's Haze. It's way better than Halo"
:?
:lol:
Yeah, Currys are practically paid by Sony. Every time I buy something from there it's always a case of them trying to make me get the PS3 version. They told me the PS3 version of Army of Two was better than the 360 version. After playing both I can easily say that was a complete load of B.S. They also have PS3s set up EVERYWHERE, and a 360 and a Wii showing off a really crap game on one of their worst TVs sat in a dusty corner with the sound turned down.
Now I hope that the cows can put Haze to rest. After all there is a great FPS that PS3 owners already get to play.
Unreal III
[QUOTE="FamiBox"]
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Blackbond
There is going to be hamburger grilling tonight :shock:
I'm going to sound like such a fanboy but...
I'M BRINGING THE A1 AND SOME CHEESE!! (I can never pass on a good, flame-grilled cheeseburger :D)
is it better than UT3 on my PC? Cos that blows donkey balls.Now I hope that the cows can put Haze to rest. After all there is a great FPS that PS3 owners already get to play.
Unreal III
jimmyand360
Free Radical are officially owned as well. I bet they'll somehow try and spin this to try and make Halo 3 sound crap.
Funnily enough my friend's mum went into Currys the other day and the staff were playing Haze. Being a bit of a gamer herself she asked what they were playing. They replied:
"It's Haze. It's way better than Halo"
:?
:lol:
Yeah, Currys are practically paid by Sony. Every time I buy something from there it's always a case of them trying to make me get the PS3 version. They told me the PS3 version of Army of Two was better than the 360 version. After playing both I can easily say that was a complete load of B.S. They also have PS3s set up EVERYWHERE, and a 360 and a Wii showing off a really crap game on one of their worst TVs sat in a dusty corner with the sound turned down.
MegaPigeon
Wow...how much business do these tools recieve?
welcome to SW. Its not just lemmings. Some of us have been around a long long time and remember what cows were like last gen/early this one. Sounds petty I know, but hey its system wars where petty=win most of the time lol Honestly SW is being very calm about this, maybe it will erupt if GS scores it the same way?I find it funny how this completes every Microsoft fan boy's day lmao it's like losing your virginity and going to school for the first time can't seem to get that smirk of your face huh lol? I can see if it was MGS4 a well hyped game but Haze come on now..
Nolan16
EDIT its the DC I find enjoyable ("no one ever hyped this" type of stuff)
[QUOTE="Nolan16"]welcome to SW. Its not just lemmings. Some of us have been around a long long time and remember what cows were like last gen/early this one. Sounds petty I know, but hey its system wars were petty=win most of the time lol Honestly SW is being very calm about this, maybe it will erupt if GS scores it the same way?I find it funny how this completes every Microsoft fan boy's day lmao it's like losing your virginity and going to school for the first time can't seem to get that smirk of your face huh lol? I can see if it was MGS4 a well hyped game but Haze come on now..
blue_hazy_basic
like i said i can see if it was MGS4 but haze what intelligent person hyped haze over an A?
ouch, I was just gonna buy it whilst waiting for MGS4, but I wont bother now!
I dont get it, free radical made timesplitters, which was amazing. now they make this? what is wrong with them?????
Oh well, I will just get MGS4 and resistance 2. They are proven titles. unlike the rubbish called Haze.
as one guy in n4g said:
"It should be sickening to real gamers when you sit back and think what a complete failure the Xbox media has been this gen:
The 360 fan at vgchartz spewing fake sales numbers
The miserable 360 fans at gametrailers putting out bogus 'comparison' videos
Jeff Haynes at IGN
GameSpot
EGM
1Up
Eurogamer
all doing their best to trash PS3 exclusives to try to keep the review averages below 90.
All that effort by the Xbox fans who have managed to hijack so much of the legitimate gaming press and it hasn't done a single thing to help the 360 sell any better than last gen or keep gamers from making the natural leap from the PS2 to the PS3."xxThyLordxx
oh, come on. Really now, N4G? That has the worst gaming community on the internet next to GameTrailers. You can't walk a yard without stepping on Sony fanboys.
Maybe the real fact is that all of these games that get just under 90 scores deserve them? Or that the ones that score ridiculously low after hype are in fact utter crap?
If anyone wants to see epic lulz, go to the Haze board. Denial abounds. Like, at amazing levels. One poster went so far as to this;
It's also not a horribly slow game full of camping cowards. It'll definitely be better than Cod4 even if it is poor.
SteveBob103
I kind of saw this coming by watching some videos for it, the textures looked so bad, and I saw a lot of odd player animations. But i'm also kind of angry it flopped because my PS3 is just sitting there. I beat Moterstorm, Uncharted, R&C, and Heavenly Sword, but none of them were worth buying and it doesn't look like I'll buy my first PS3 game till MGS4.
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Nolan16"]welcome to SW. Its not just lemmings. Some of us have been around a long long time and remember what cows were like last gen/early this one. Sounds petty I know, but hey its system wars were petty=win most of the time lol Honestly SW is being very calm about this, maybe it will erupt if GS scores it the same way?I find it funny how this completes every Microsoft fan boy's day lmao it's like losing your virginity and going to school for the first time can't seem to get that smirk of your face huh lol? I can see if it was MGS4 a well hyped game but Haze come on now..
Nolan16
like i said i can see if it was MGS4 but haze what intelligent person hyped haze over an A?
see my edit for response :P[QUOTE="MegaPigeon"]Free Radical are officially owned as well. I bet they'll somehow try and spin this to try and make Halo 3 sound crap.
Funnily enough my friend's mum went into Currys the other day and the staff were playing Haze. Being a bit of a gamer herself she asked what they were playing. They replied:
"It's Haze. It's way better than Halo"
:?
:lol:
Yeah, Currys are practically paid by Sony. Every time I buy something from there it's always a case of them trying to make me get the PS3 version. They told me the PS3 version of Army of Two was better than the 360 version. After playing both I can easily say that was a complete load of B.S. They also have PS3s set up EVERYWHERE, and a 360 and a Wii showing off a really crap game on one of their worst TVs sat in a dusty corner with the sound turned down.
Verge_6
Wow...how much business do these tools recieve?
Lots. They're a big electronics supplier and their motto has always been "Always stomping down prices" or something like that. Ironically, this isn't the case.
Here's the Samsung HTX500R sound system at Currys.
http://www.currys.co.uk/martprd/store/cur_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1839620213.1211298888@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccfhadeedmlmjedcflgceggdhhmdgmh.0&page=Product&fm=0&sm=4&tm=3&sku=141238&category_oid=
here it is at Dixons
http://www.dixons.co.uk/martprd/store/dix_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1543721699.1211298888@@@@&BV_EngineID=cceladeeedkjddkcflgceggdhhmdgmi.0&page=Product&fm=null&sm=null&tm=null&sku=141238&category_oid=-32363
And here's something you can get for the same price at Dixons
http://www.dixons.co.uk/martprd/store/dix_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1543721699.1211298888@@@@&BV_EngineID=cceladeeedkjddkcflgceggdhhmdgmi.0&page=Product&sku=384565
And here's that same product at Currys
http://www.currys.co.uk/martprd/store/cur_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1839620213.1211298888@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccfhadeedmlmjedcflgceggdhhmdgmh.0&page=Product&fm=null&sm=null&tm=null&sku=384565&category_oid=
Yeah. Stamping down on prices.....
[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="FamiBox"]
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The_Game21x
There is going to be hamburger grilling tonight :shock:
I'm going to sound like such a fanboy but...
I'M BRINGING THE A1 AND SOME CHEESE!! (I can never pass on a good, flame-grilled cheeseburger :D)
i dont think i can eat burgers with A1 sauce. bleh.
i knew this game was going to suck something big and hard once i played the demo and found out its more linear then the later lvls of the first killzone...which ironically score HIGHER on IGN then HAZE....
it only got worse when the developers admitted they are using 580p as their resolution...i mean come on 580p they can even be on par with COD4 res. which is just sad
How can it be overrated if it got a low score?Wow, another really overrated PS3 game.. This is getting rather sad xD
MGS4 is the only salvation for the PS3.
omgimba
And as previously stated, not suprising at all if you played the demo.
i wasnt expecting the game was going to do well, but not this bad... Is it seriously worse than Hour of Victory, Turning Point, etc. I mean thats quite a feat to reach that lvl of suck. blackeneddeath
It got a worse score than Hour of Victory as well? :| The game may not be great, but it sure as hell is not as terrible as Hour of Victory, or the horrible garbage that is Turning Point for that matter.
Haha, Hour of Victloly got a 5.7. Granted these are two different IGN channels and different editors, but still, there should be some coherency. Like if asstastic games get scores like 5.0 and 5.7, better games should not be getting lower scores.
Looks like Free Radical spend too much time hyping this game as a Halo killer, and bashing Halo 3, rather than working on the game. I kinda had a bad feeling looking at the screenshots, and saw nothing that would kill Halo.
That is just so ridiculous to me. Anybody in their right mind can think outside of system wars and see Mass Effect isnt a flop.Maybe I'm not "playing by the rules" but I think that's so ridiculous if someone calls Mass Effect or Resistance a flop.
carljohnson3456
That is the rules of System Wars, I think they are just idiotic, but because we are in System Wars, they are floped. But I loved Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, and Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction. But they were hyped a score and didn't get it in the reveiw so they are all flops.
[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="FamiBox"]
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istreakforfood
There is going to be hamburger grilling tonight :shock:
I'm going to sound like such a fanboy but...
I'M BRINGING THE A1 AND SOME CHEESE!! (I can never pass on a good, flame-grilled cheeseburger :D)
i dont think i can eat burgers with A1 sauce. bleh.
Nah, the A1 is for the steaks. Can't have steaks without A1. :wink:
Hahahahaha...
I have been saying this game would suck since people first started hyping it. It has always looked like complete trash, I am just happy it was finally released in two weeks no one is ever going to mention this game again. All the cows who that were bragging about having this as an exclusive were absolutely owned.
Looks like Free Radical spend too much time hyping this game as a Halo killer, and bashing Halo 3, rather than working on the game. I kinda had a bad feeling looking at the screenshots, and saw nothing that would kill Halo.
[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]That is just so ridiculous to me. Anybody in their right mind can think outside of system wars and see Mass Effect isnt a flop.
Maybe I'm not "playing by the rules" but I think that's so ridiculous if someone calls Mass Effect or Resistance a flop.
Chaos_HL21
That is the rules of System Wars, I think they are just idiotic, but because we are in System Wars, they are floped. But I loved Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, and Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction. But they were hyped a score and didn't get it in the reveiw so they are all flops.
its like they took a page from all the media hype about killzone, and did the same thing but worse...i mean atleast it was gg talking smack about halo, it was media sites but free radical just couldnt shut their mouths
[QUOTE="vicmackey39"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]The only game comparable to this is Lair, what other game has bit the dust on the PS3?
blue_hazy_basic
ratchet, resistance, heavenly sword, folklore
motorstorm was another biggie (hyped AAA before PS3 was released and cows expected every PS3 game to anhilate everything)forgot about motorstorm, thanks for the reminder
Ok, I forgot we count Gamespot as high and mighty around here, but their reviews have become somewhat of a joke. Especially the Ratchet review.
Those games didnt bite the dust anyway. Especially Ratchet and Resistance. The fact you even listed those two are enough to tell me you might not know what you're talking about. Heavenly Sword didnt bite the dust either... and as for Folklore? I think IGN gave it like a 9.0. Since we're holding IGN's opinion so high in this thread too, do you realize that Folklore got a 9 from IGN?
Again, besides Lair what other game has bit the dust on the PS3?
carljohnson3456
Actually bovine all of those games have AA scores on Gamerankings as well and there have been other places that have rated them lower. I'm sure that in retrospect it seems that cows never hyped those games as AAA classics but everyone who as there knows the amount of crap cows were spewing which is why it's so funny to see them crash and burn
as for IGN, I couldn't care less about them as i don't particularly rate them. It's no secret that they overrate PS3 games though which should make the Gamespo, 1up and edge scores even worse
I can't wait
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