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#101 Prydes
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This is a flop, easily. I hyped this to be a 10, I was hoping it would surpass the greatest game of all time, Killzone 2, but no, it didn't. At least it's graphics king, but now, as you can see in the poster a few spaces above me's sig, I must fulfill my bet. Sigh... let me down.
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#102 simslifer
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[QUOTE="simslifer"]

still no AAAAE or AAAE for wii

OreoMilkshake

Wii has AAAE's.

talking about this year

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#103 VendettaRed07
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looks good, but .. i have to many games to get for wii, im not sure if i should get this tiger or mario kart

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#104 hy4k
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2 AAAE and an AAA thats only in last gen system as well.

simslifer

wow 3 whole games!!!

i'm going out to get me a 400 dollar failure right now, i heard it also lets yo play worse versions of 360 games with a PS1 pad!

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#105 nick31189
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still no AAAAE or AAAE for wii

simslifer

Yea there is a AAAE for Wii

Smash Brothers Brawl,

SMG

Metriod Prime 3

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#106 OreoMilkshake
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[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"][QUOTE="simslifer"]

still no AAAAE or AAAE for wii

simslifer

Wii has AAAE's.

talking about this year

Well the AAAAE threw me off.
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#107 jonnyt61
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[QUOTE="jonnyt61"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

All those games you listed, with the exception of the Half-Life franchise and maybe Halo: Combat Evolved, can all be described as average FPS's (well, except Gears, as that's a TPS). There's nothing that sets them apart.

nintendo-4life

Yet by many critics, they're rated as Outstanding and "Editor's Choice" which would imply, that they indeed, weren't average. Generic and average aren't the same.

Why are you guys focusing so hard on FPS? :| I'm not just talking about a specific genre. TBH when i posted that comment two games came to mind. Uncharted and heavenly sword. Both games were pretty average, the only thing that saved them were good storytelling and graphics... other than that they are....pretty average. Guitar hero world tour is also a good example, etc. See what i mean?

Well, I wouldn't call them average, in any way. They both had outstanding production and presentation, and great gameplay to boot. They scored an 8 out of 10, on here, which shows that the short length, and not exactly unique approach knocked them from being amazing games, to being above average titles.

On the other hand, we have a game that has scored very close to a 9, when it does absolutely nothing new, and doesn't appear to do them to a standard that has already been set by other games in its genre. It seems to be a very run of the mill game, saved by its control scheme.

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#108 deactivated-5d25ae64ef918
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This is a flop, easily. I hyped this to be a 10, I was hoping it would surpass the greatest game of all time, Killzone 2, but no, it didn't. At least it's graphics king, but now, as you can see in the poster a few spaces above me's sig, I must fulfill my bet. Sigh... let me down.Prydes
Do it while watching this. It will make it less painful.

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#109 sonicmj1
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[QUOTE="simslifer"]

still no AAAAE or AAAE for wii

nick31189

Yea there is a AAAE for Wii

Smash Brothers Brawl,

SMG

Metriod Prime 3

Prime 3 is an 8.5.

No More Heroes and Warioware are AAA, though.

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#110 spectravoid
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[QUOTE="hy4k"][QUOTE="simslifer"]

still no AAAAE or AAAE for wii

simslifer

still only 2 good exclusives for ps3 this year

2 AAAE and an AAA thats only in last gen system as well.

Brawl, NMH, Galaxy, Wario ware all AAA here Good score. Now when will GS review it. I'm going to say that they will do it around October 18 of this year (They still haven't reviewed rune factory frontier and Rock Band wii to name a couple).
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#111 nintendo-4life
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="jonnyt61"] Yet by many critics, they're rated as Outstanding and "Editor's Choice" which would imply, that they indeed, weren't average. Generic and average aren't the same.jonnyt61

Why are you guys focusing so hard on FPS? :| I'm not just talking about a specific genre. TBH when i posted that comment two games came to mind. Uncharted and heavenly sword. Both games were pretty average, the only thing that saved them were good storytelling and graphics... other than that they are....pretty average. Guitar hero world tour is also a good example, etc. See what i mean?

Well, I wouldn't call them average, in any way. They both had outstanding production and presentation, and great gameplay to boot. They scored an 8 out of 10, on here, which shows that the short length, and not exactly unique approach knocked them from being amazing games, to being above average titles.

On the other hand, we have a game that has scored very close to a 9, when it does absolutely nothing new, and doesn't appear to do them to a standard that has already been set by other games in its genre. It seems to be a very run of the mill game, saved by its control scheme.

They weren't anything special, the games were great for, as i said, graphics and story. Conduit is said to have controls more fluid controls than any other console. That's something pretty big. As big, at least, as the presentational side of the mentioned games. It also seems pretty lengthy and a good online sport the length shortages and is solid all around. All three games are average, with little perks here and there to set them just a bit apart from the rest of the group.
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#112 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="jonnyt61"] Yet by many critics, they're rated as Outstanding and "Editor's Choice" which would imply, that they indeed, weren't average. Generic and average aren't the same.jonnyt61

Why are you guys focusing so hard on FPS? :| I'm not just talking about a specific genre. TBH when i posted that comment two games came to mind. Uncharted and heavenly sword. Both games were pretty average, the only thing that saved them were good storytelling and graphics... other than that they are....pretty average. Guitar hero world tour is also a good example, etc. See what i mean?

Well, I wouldn't call them average, in any way. They both had outstanding production and presentation, and great gameplay to boot. They scored an 8 out of 10, on here, which shows that the short length, and not exactly unique approach knocked them from being amazing games, to being above average titles.

On the other hand, we have a game that has scored very close to a 9, when it does absolutely nothing new, and doesn't appear to do them to a standard that has already been set by other games in its genre. It seems to be a very run of the mill game, saved by its control scheme.

Uh, Uncharted scored a 9.1 on IGN.

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#113 foxhound_fox
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Aren't IGN scores usually a little higher than average?

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#114 Phazevariance
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The wii has been diong pretty well ont he software side lately. Not killer, but still pretty good.
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#115 BioShockOwnz
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This is one good lookin' Wii game. I don't care what anyone says, I could mistake the environment at 1:45 in the video review for a first-gen 360 or PS3 title, like PDZ or R: FoM. I know it's obviously not as good as either of those titles in terms of technical power, but it sure does try hard to convince me otherwise with the fancy bells and whistles they're using on Wii.

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#116 deactivated-5f4694ac412a8
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...And they gave Medal of Honor: Heroes 2 an 8.4, so I'm still not excited.

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#117 789shadow
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[QUOTE="simslifer"]

[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]Wii has AAAE's.OreoMilkshake

talking about this year

Well the AAAAE threw me off.

What are you talking about?:question:

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#118 OreoMilkshake
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[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"][QUOTE="simslifer"]

talking about this year

789shadow

Well the AAAAE threw me off.

What are you talking about?:question:

He was bragging about how Wii doesn't have a AAAAE this year so it didn't make sense because no system does. So I assumed he was talking about overall.
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#119 RandolphScott
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So a man with a known slant towards Nintendo, who is married into the Nintendo family, gave an exclusive game for the Wii he hyped for months a good score. What is the relevance of anything Matt has to say about a Wii game? He can't be impartial.
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#120 kozzy1234
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game looks to be good, but ill see once i get a chacne to play it.

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#121 OreoMilkshake
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So a man with a known slant towards Nintendo, who is married into the Nintendo family, gave an exclusive game for the Wii he hyped for months a good score. What is the relevance of anything Matt has to say about a Wii game? He can't be impartial.RandolphScott
So we shouldn't take him seriously because he likes a game you don't?
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#122 NAPK1NS
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I'm surprised! Hooray for anyone who was excited for this one. However... Matt? He gets excited about anything Wii related, but that's okay.
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#123 ActicEdge
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Good score. Still expect a 7 at gamespot.

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#124 sonicmj1
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[QUOTE="RandolphScott"]So a man with a known slant towards Nintendo, who is married into the Nintendo family, gave an exclusive game for the Wii he hyped for months a good score. What is the relevance of anything Matt has to say about a Wii game? He can't be impartial.OreoMilkshake
So we shouldn't take him seriously because he likes a game you don't?

No.

We shouldn't take him too seriously because he's married to a Nintendo employee and, having hyped the game significantly himself, has a personal stake in its success, and, as a result, has a biased perspective.

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#125 VideoGameGuy
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So a man with a known slant towards Nintendo, who is married into the Nintendo family, gave an exclusive game for the Wii he hyped for months a good score. What is the relevance of anything Matt has to say about a Wii game? He can't be impartial.RandolphScott
it was a fair review.
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#126 STRETCH-E
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[QUOTE="RandolphScott"]So a man with a known slant towards Nintendo, who is married into the Nintendo family, gave an exclusive game for the Wii he hyped for months a good score. What is the relevance of anything Matt has to say about a Wii game? He can't be impartial.OreoMilkshake
So we shouldn't take him seriously because he likes a game you don't?



Wow it's like you totally disregarded everything he said and went ahead with a typical "oooh because you don't agree with him" reply.


Anyways, it'll be a surprise if The Conduit even gets A here.

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#127 eyesofnight
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i don't know. didn't they give wario ware smooth moves a 9.0?

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#128 Cherokee_Jack
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i don't know. didn't they give wario ware smooth moves a 9.0?

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That was GS. IGN gave it an 8.2
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#129 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"][QUOTE="simslifer"]

still no AAAAE or AAAE for wii

simslifer

Wii has AAAE's.

talking about this year

In that case the PS3 doesn't have any AAAAE. :|

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#130 loco145
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[QUOTE="simslifer"]

[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]Wii has AAAE's.Silverbond

talking about this year

In that case the PS3 doesn't have any AAAAE. :|

The Ps3 does. But xbox does not.

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#131 OreoMilkshake
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[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"][QUOTE="RandolphScott"]So a man with a known slant towards Nintendo, who is married into the Nintendo family, gave an exclusive game for the Wii he hyped for months a good score. What is the relevance of anything Matt has to say about a Wii game? He can't be impartial.STRETCH-E

So we shouldn't take him seriously because he likes a game you don't?



Wow it's like you totally disregarded everything he said and went ahead with a typical "oooh because you don't agree with him" reply.


Anyways, it'll be a surprise if The Conduit even gets A here.

You don't think he would fall in love with him if he hated the game?

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#132 Tragic_Kingdom7
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As someone who thought The Conduit looked mediocre at first, I have to say that it looks pretty good, especially for a Wii FPS. And if the controls are really as good as IGN says they are, that counts for alot.

Honestly, I don't see how some people can hype games that look as severely unpolished as MAG (and some others)and make fun of how The Conduit looks, especially considering that it's running on the Wii's hardware. It boggles my mind.

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#133 Sully28
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Thats awesome, i just saw a comercial for it somewhere, i forget, but it looks good, congrats wii owners.

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#134 haziqonfire
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The majority have been trashing The Conduit on these forums. If it gets even an A, it's a success. Show HVS some respect.

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My problem with them is they talk too much and let it get to their heads. really there is nothing wrong with any of their projects, though, I still think the conduit is an ugly Wii game - mostly because of the art direction, which I dislike. Grinder looks a lot better - not interested in Gladiator AD.
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#135 Lto_thaG
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"it's also a straightforward one. Run and gun, enemy spawners, and little else."

Ugh :x

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"The biggest complaint I can make of the package is that it doesn't really upend the genre with some fantastic new twist, but simply clings to the fundamentals that made shooters fun to begin with. Thus, if you already own a PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360, both clogged with FPS titles, you've probably experiened some variation of The Conduit before." -Matt Casamassina IGN

That is what I was afraid of :/ I already own a 360 with a ton of amazing fps games with an awesome online servie to support them, in order for the conduit to warrant a buy from me it would have to rise above them in gameplay, however this dosen't seem to be the case.... not to mention the NWFC is no where near the best console based online service this gen with most games on it being hit or miss and the conduit seems to face this problem also, "I tested the online portion several times in preparation for this review and it yielded mixed results."

Oh well, this game still sounds geat for gamers who only own a wii this gen and want a decent fps fix (as Matt emphasised throughout the review) however, chances are that by now most wii gamers who are into the fps scene already own a 360 or PS3 and might turn this game down as I will and that may effect sales negativley! I'm sure people will be watchong its sales performance very closley in these following weeks!

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#137 loco145
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Oh well, this game still sounds geat for gamers who only own a wii this gen and want a decent fps fix (as Matt emphasised throughout the review) however, chances are that by now most wii gamers who are into the fps scene already own a 360 or PS3 and might turn this game down as I will and that may effect sales negativley! I'm sure people will be watchong its sales performance very closley in these following weeks!

kenakuma

How about the like of us who realised that the wii-mote is far superior to dual analog (for Fpses)?

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#138 RuprechtMonkey
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I'll put this together with the few reviews it already has - in the pile that I don't trust so much.

Nothing against IGN but Casmassina has been hyping the Hell out of this game to no end. Honestly, I'm surprised he didn't give it a 9.

I'll wait for a GS or GT review.

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#139 psychobrew
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"it's also a straightforward one. Run and gun, enemy spawners, and little else."

Ugh :x

Lto_thaG

What's wrong with that?

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#140 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

"it's also a straightforward one. Run and gun, enemy spawners, and little else."

Ugh :x

psychobrew

What's wrong with that?

It means this game will be boring for me.
"The biggest complaint I can make of the package is that it doesn't really upend the genre with some fantastic new twist, but simply clings to the fundamentals that made shooters fun to begin with. Thus, if you already own a PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360, both clogged with FPS titles, you've probably experiened some variation of The Conduit before."

I've played so many fps' and this one isn't gonna come close to entertaining me.

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#141 psychobrew
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[QUOTE="loco145"]

[QUOTE="kenakuma"]

Oh well, this game still sounds geat for gamers who only own a wii this gen and want a decent fps fix (as Matt emphasised throughout the review) however, chances are that by now most wii gamers who are into the fps scene already own a 360 or PS3 and might turn this game down as I will and that may effect sales negativley! I'm sure people will be watchong its sales performance very closley in these following weeks!

How about the like of us who realised that the wii-mote is far superior to dual analog (for Fpses)?

Exactly. There's a reason I don't own a 360 or PS3.
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#142 RuprechtMonkey
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[QUOTE="kenakuma"]

Oh well, this game still sounds geat for gamers who only own a wii this gen and want a decent fps fix (as Matt emphasised throughout the review) however, chances are that by now most wii gamers who are into the fps scene already own a 360 or PS3 and might turn this game down as I will and that may effect sales negativley! I'm sure people will be watchong its sales performance very closley in these following weeks!

loco145

How about the like of us who realised that the wii-mote is far superior to dual analog (for Fpses)?

And a KB/M is far superior to the Wiimote? What's your point?

I'd still rather play a fantastic FPS on the PS3 / 360 than I would an average, ho-hum one on the PC (despite its superior control.) As would the majority of FPS fans. The 360, PS3, and PC all have a ton of AAA quality FPS stock to choose from. Just because an average unspectacular game uses the WiiMote doesn't exempt it from being average and unspectacular. This has always been a bit of a problem for the Wii.

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#143 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="loco145"]

[QUOTE="kenakuma"]

Oh well, this game still sounds geat for gamers who only own a wii this gen and want a decent fps fix (as Matt emphasised throughout the review) however, chances are that by now most wii gamers who are into the fps scene already own a 360 or PS3 and might turn this game down as I will and that may effect sales negativley! I'm sure people will be watchong its sales performance very closley in these following weeks!

psychobrew

How about the like of us who realised that the wii-mote is far superior to dual analog (for Fpses)?

Exactly. There's a reason I don't own a 360 or PS3.

Because it doesn't have a Wii-mote :? Stupid reason to miss out on a ****load of good games.

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#144 sonicthemegaman
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The game has problems, or so I hear, but other than that, I hear it's basically Perfect Dark with online multiplayer. And that, my friends, is a positive. This is the spiritual successor to Perfect Dark. Let's forget about PDZ, shall we? ;)

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PDZ was decent. Nothing terrible. Besides, The Conduit has me totally uninterested. How many shooters do we need?
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#145 Tragic_Kingdom7
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

The game has problems, or so I hear, but other than that, I hear it's basically Perfect Dark with online multiplayer. And that, my friends, is a positive. This is the spiritual successor to Perfect Dark. Let's forget about PDZ, shall we? ;)

sonicthemegaman

PDZ was decent. Nothing terrible. Besides, The Conduit has me totally uninterested. How many shooters do we need?

But the Wii doesn't have alot of shooters.

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#146 loco145
Member since 2006 • 12226 Posts

And a KB/M is far superior to the Wiimote? What's your point?

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You can't play KB/M from a confy couch. I found that MoH:H2 and CoD:WaW to be more relaxed experiences than what I got on PC. I like both, and there's time for both on my schedule. What i have not time for is fighting with subpar controls like dual analogs.

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#147 sonicthemegaman
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[QUOTE="RandolphScott"]So a man with a known slant towards Nintendo, who is married into the Nintendo family, gave an exclusive game for the Wii he hyped for months a good score. What is the relevance of anything Matt has to say about a Wii game? He can't be impartial.OreoMilkshake
So we shouldn't take him seriously because he likes a game you don't?

You just don't know how biased Matt is do you?
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#148 Hungry_Jello
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[QUOTE="kenakuma"]

Oh well, this game still sounds geat for gamers who only own a wii this gen and want a decent fps fix (as Matt emphasised throughout the review) however, chances are that by now most wii gamers who are into the fps scene already own a 360 or PS3 and might turn this game down as I will and that may effect sales negativley! I'm sure people will be watchong its sales performance very closley in these following weeks!

loco145

How about the like of us who realised that the wii-mote is far superior to dual analog (for Fpses)?

Keyboard/mouse> Dual analog> wii mote. thats how it goes.

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#149 sonicthemegaman
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[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

The game has problems, or so I hear, but other than that, I hear it's basically Perfect Dark with online multiplayer. And that, my friends, is a positive. This is the spiritual successor to Perfect Dark. Let's forget about PDZ, shall we? ;)

PDZ was decent. Nothing terrible. Besides, The Conduit has me totally uninterested. How many shooters do we need?

But the Wii doesn't have alot of shooters.

So? Copying the other consoles that do FPS far better isn't making the genre less derivative.
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#150 loco145
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Because it doesn't have a Wii-mote :? Stupid reason to miss out on a ****load of good games.

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FOr many of us, dual analog are frustrating, and in the bad way. We don't like to be frustrated by games.