IGN The Conduit Review.

[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"][QUOTE="RandolphScott"]So a man with a known slant towards Nintendo, who is married into the Nintendo family, gave an exclusive game for the Wii he hyped for months a good score. What is the relevance of anything Matt has to say about a Wii game? He can't be impartial.sonicthemegaman

How did the game get that high of a score if it only got an 8.0 in gameplay :? O well I'm not gonna complain. Might have to dust off the Wii and check it out.

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

Because it doesn't have a Wii-mote :? Stupid reason to miss out on a ****load of good games.

[QUOTE="kenakuma"]

Oh well, this game still sounds geat for gamers who only own a wii this gen and want a decent fps fix (as Matt emphasised throughout the review) however, chances are that by now most wii gamers who are into the fps scene already own a 360 or PS3 and might turn this game down as I will and that may effect sales negativley! I'm sure people will be watchong its sales performance very closley in these following weeks!

loco145

I also think the wii-mote is superior to the dual analog but that is in no way enough to warrant a buy from me! Not to mention I got used to dual analog within like a day of first using it so I'm more than happy with using it :)

I'm more worried about the ACTUAL gameplay and online support! What good are great controls when a decent portion of onlinematches are gonna suffer from horrid lag rendering them unplayable :/, "However, I also encountered situations overrun with lag in which on-screen characters would skip around erratically, making maintained matches virtually unplayable. It seems clear to me that the technology is in place for some great online experiences, but whether or not you actually get them may depend on your connection speed, as well as how many people are playing against you. Even with this split between good and bad connections, though, I think there will be a lot of Wii owners willing to suffer through some laggy battles for the good ones, which make possible some truly entertaining fragfests."

Still though, online aside, its mostly the meh gameplay that turn me off great controls or not!

Keyboard/mouse> Dual analog> wii mote. thats how it goes.

Hungry_Jello

:lol: ... No.

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

Because it doesn't have a Wii-mote :? Stupid reason to miss out on a ****load of good games.

loco145

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]So we shouldn't take him seriously because he likes a game you don't?OreoMilkshake

[QUOTE="loco145"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

Because it doesn't have a Wii-mote :? Stupid reason to miss out on a ****load of good games.

sonicthemegaman

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

And a KB/M is far superior to the Wiimote? What's your point?

loco145

Lol, you can't play Resistance 2, Killzone 2, or Halo 3, or TF2, or HL2o n the Wii from a comfy couch either (all 3 of which are miles above anything on the Wii even with dual analog.)

And if you honestly prefer MoH:H2 or WaW to the other available FPS's, especially compared towhat's on the PC...well, I guess there's no accounting for taste. Seriously, those are some very, very average FPS's. HL2 and CS:S those are not. I have nothing against the Wii, and I'll try Conduit because I try basically all notable FPS's that come out, but for FPS fans the Wii is not the system to get, among any platform, to satiate an appetite for a good FPS game.

I'm not all that familiar with this forum so I don't know who's who, but I'm going to go out on the world's shortest limb and guess you're a bit of a Nintendo fanboy. I have no preference, I only prefer game genres (FPS being about at the top of the list) - not system companies.... so I call it like I see it.

And there are issues with the WiiMote as well that don't necessarily make them "far superior" dual analog as KB/M is without a doubt superior to dual analog and the WiiMote. Here's an old thread of mine, but I posted a more recent thread that I can't find based on tons of more experince clocked withMOH and I had just as bad issues with the scheme as I did then.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26597511&page=0

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"] PDZ was decent. Nothing terrible. Besides, The Conduit has me totally uninterested. How many shooters do we need?sonicthemegaman

But the Wii doesn't have alot of shooters.

Perhaps not, but I don't see why it has to make the genre less derivative. Being a competent Wii shooter is a good enough endeavor IMO. The Wii needs more genre-balancing in the area of the FPS and this seems like a worthy entry.

[QUOTE="Hungry_Jello"]

Keyboard/mouse> Dual analog> wii mote. thats how it goes.

loco145

:lol: ... No.

Uh........yeah. That is the way it goes for the most part.......................

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

Because it doesn't have a Wii-mote :? Stupid reason to miss out on a ****load of good games.

loco145

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

"it's also a straightforward one. Run and gun, enemy spawners, and little else."

Ugh :x

Lto_thaG

What's wrong with that?

Got it. I just started playing FPSs again, so I'm ready to go. I'm just glad there's no ultra linear scripted events like the Russian campaign in COD:WAW (and, from what I hear, Modern Warfare). I never finished WAW because it started playing like you were reading a book -- that's way too linear for me. Sometimes, the "else" can kill a game.

Lol, you can't play Resistance 2, Killzone 2, or Halo 3, or TF2, orHL2on the Wii from a comfy couche either (all 3 of which are miles above anything on the Wii even with dual analog.)

RuprechtMonkey

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

Because it doesn't have a Wii-mote :? Stupid reason to miss out on a ****load of good games.

yet you're favoring the wii, a console where many of it's games don't even get motion sensing down properly? :?Sonick54

[QUOTE="Sonick54"] yet you're favoring the wii, a console where many of it's games don't even get motion sensing down properly? :?loco145

But the online is faaaaar from lagless according to IGN so doesn't that pretty much throw the superior controls out the window ina decent portion ofonline matches :/

Not to mention this game has NO local multiplayer to help make up for a faulty online :(

[QUOTE="loco145"]

[QUOTE="Sonick54"] yet you're favoring the wii, a console where many of it's games don't even get motion sensing down properly? :?kenakuma

But the online is faaaaar from lagless according to IGN so doesn't that pretty much throw the superior controls out the window ina decent portion ofonline matches :/

Not to mention this game has NO local multiplayer to help make up for a faulty online :(

[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="loco145"]How about the like of us who realised that the wii-mote is far superior to dual analog (for Fpses)?

Lto_thaG

Whatever. FPSs weren't made for dual analog, and dual analogwasn't made for FPSs. I find myself bored out of my mind whenever I try to play an FPS on a dual analog controller. Games just seem slower and the movement is awkward. Since I'm not going to like Halo 3 or Killzone 2 because of the controls, why would I get a 360 or PS3? I'd rather update my PC first....

The game has problems, or so I hear, but other than that, I hear it's basically Perfect Dark with online multiplayer. And that, my friends, is a positive. This is the spiritual successor to Perfect Dark. Let's forget about PDZ, shall we? ;)

Whatever. FPSs weren't made for dual analog, and dual analogwasn't made for FPSs. I find myself bored out of my mind whenever I try to play an FPS on a dual analog controller. Games just seem slower and the movement is awkward. Since I'm not going to like Halo 3 or Killzone 2 because of the controls, why would I get a 360 or PS3? I'd rather update my PC first....

psychobrew

FPS, in general - are a boring, tired and true genre that needs to take a chill pill.

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]

Whatever. FPSs weren't made for dual analog, and dual analogwasn't made for FPSs. I find myself bored out of my mind whenever I try to play an FPS on a dual analog controller. Games just seem slower and the movement is awkward. Since I'm not going to like Halo 3 or Killzone 2 because of the controls, why would I get a 360 or PS3? I'd rather update my PC first....

Haziqonfire

FPS, in general - are a boring, tired and true genre that needs to take a chill pill.

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]

Whatever. FPSs weren't made for dual analog, and dual analogwasn't made for FPSs. I find myself bored out of my mind whenever I try to play an FPS on a dual analog controller. Games just seem slower and the movement is awkward. Since I'm not going to like Halo 3 or Killzone 2 because of the controls, why would I get a 360 or PS3? I'd rather update my PC first....

Haziqonfire

FPS, in general - are a boring, tired and true genre that needs to take a chill pill.

Anyone can say that about any popular genre or franchise they didn't like.

I'd rather play TF2 or CS:S when I play a multiplayer game then pretty much anything else.

So would a ton of people.

So the wii is a good system now? Did this happen over night or something.... With the year the wii has been having i kind of wanted this game to flop a bit just because it would be ironic that it's most hyped game of the year flops when it gets all these unexpected AA's and what not.

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]

Whatever. FPSs weren't made for dual analog, and dual analogwasn't made for FPSs. I find myself bored out of my mind whenever I try to play an FPS on a dual analog controller. Games just seem slower and the movement is awkward. Since I'm not going to like Halo 3 or Killzone 2 because of the controls, why would I get a 360 or PS3? I'd rather update my PC first....

FPS, in general - are a boring, tired and true genre that needs to take a chill pill.

I would pick this up, but my wii sensor bar is broken or something, can't play Zak and Wiki either :(

I would pick this up, but my wii sensor bar is broken or something, can't play Zak and Wiki either :(

millwrought

You can get a new sensor bar for less than $10 shipped.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=wii+sensor+bar

[QUOTE="loco145"]

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

And a KB/M is far superior to the Wiimote? What's your point?

RuprechtMonkey

Lol, you can't play Resistance 2, Killzone 2, or Halo 3, or TF2, or HL2o n the Wii from a comfy couch either (all 3 of which are miles above anything on the Wii even with dual analog.)

And if you honestly prefer MoH:H2 or WaW to the other available FPS's, especially compared towhat's on the PC...well, I guess there's no accounting for taste. Seriously, those are some very, very average FPS's. HL2 and CS:S those are not. I have nothing against the Wii, and I'll try Conduit because I try basically all notable FPS's that come out, but for FPS fans the Wii is not the system to get, among any platform, to satiate an appetite for a good FPS game.

I'm not all that familiar with this forum so I don't know who's who, but I'm going to go out on the world's shortest limb and guess you're a bit of a Nintendo fanboy. I have no preference, I only prefer game genres (FPS being about at the top of the list) - not system companies.... so I call it like I see it.

And there are issues with the WiiMote as well that don't necessarily make them "far superior" dual analog as KB/M is without a doubt superior to dual analog and the WiiMote. Here's an old thread of mine, but I posted a more recent thread that I can't find based on tons of more experince clocked withMOH and I had just as bad issues with the scheme as I did then.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26597511&page=0

[QUOTE="loco145"]

[QUOTE="Hungry_Jello"]

Keyboard/mouse> Dual analog> wii mote. thats how it goes.

Hungry_Jello

:lol: ... No.

Uh........yeah. That is the way it goes for the most part.......................

[QUOTE="Hungry_Jello"]

[QUOTE="loco145"]

:lol: ... No.

Head_of_games

Uh........yeah. That is the way it goes for the most part.......................

[QUOTE="loco145"]

:lol: ... No.

Uh........yeah. That is the way it goes for the most part.......................

I think the real issue stems from the fact that there's no good way of knowing when you've moved the cursor too far from 'you're just moving the cursor' to 'you're turning.' LongZhiZi

Yes, there is. Is called practice. Also, with The Conduit you can setup the dead box to whatever size you like. Even no dead box so the screen is attached to the cursor like in a mouse.

Sometimes you just want to aim at the guy who's slightly into the 'turning zone', but once you move the cursor over him, the whole camera moves and your aim is off.LongZhiZi

Huh? just keep aiming at the dude. Is way more natural and real life-like than dual analog and even the mouse. In real life, when you are aiming at something, if you move your head (camera) your aiming doest no unless you move your dam hands too.

I prefer my FPS on PC over my PS3, even if the only difference was controls. But would I rather play a game like Haze on my PC over The Orange Box on my PS3? **** no.LongZhiZi

Wow that did better than expected.

Not bad. I really don't know why but I just can't get hyped for this game. I have a friend who will buy it and I will probably play it with him though.

As far as having any sort of realism, the Wiimote is definitely superior to the mouse. Mouse/kb is great, but it basically has built in cheating.psychobrew

KB/M has autoaim now? :?

:roll:

[QUOTE="LongZhiZi"]

And sticky aim, auto aim and aim assist do? :roll:

[QUOTE="LongZhiZi"]

Yes, there is. Is called practice. Also, with The Conduit you can setup the dead box to whatever size you like. Even no dead box so the screen is attached to the cursor like in a mouse.

[QUOTE="LongZhiZi"]Sometimes you just want to aim at the guy who's slightly into the 'turning zone', but once you move the cursor over him, the whole camera moves and your aim is off.loco145

Huh? just keep aiming at the dude. Is way more natural and real life-like than dual analog and even the mouse. In real life, when you are aiming at something, if you move your head (camera) your aiming doest no unless you move your dam hands too.

I prefer my FPS on PC over my PS3, even if the only difference was controls. But would I rather play a game like Haze on my PC over The Orange Box on my PS3? **** no.LongZhiZi

"Built in cheating?!?" LOL!

As far as having any sort of realism, the Wiimote is definitely superior to the mouse. Mouse/kb is great, but it basically has built in cheating.psychobrew

So... much... fail. :|

So when you go to aim at a person in real life, your head keeps turning until you move your gun slightly more to the center?LongZhiZi

Is in your best interest to keep your vision close to the scope. WHat im saying is that aiming and camera movement is responsive, smooth and natural. No problems whatsoever of keeping your aim in your target with the camera moving, since your aiming is detached from the camera....

The fact that the Conduit allows you to lock the cursor to the center MAY make for better gameplay, but it's something I'd have to try before I'd believe it since the controls haven't worked nearly as well as we thought they would when the Wii launched. And even if this game isn't 'Haze' quality, the point still stands. If you're willing to accept an average game with better controls over a great game with with average controls, well, that tells me enough not to bother discussing any gaming-related topic with you. Good day.LongZhiZi

I don't consider dual analog average controls, more like subpar controls. So, there.

[QUOTE="psychobrew"] As far as having any sort of realism, the Wiimote is definitely superior to the mouse. Mouse/kb is great, but it basically has built in cheating.Guybrush_3

KB/M has autoaim now? :?

:roll:

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]As far as having any sort of realism, the Wiimote is definitely superior to the mouse. Mouse/kb is great, but it basically has built in cheating.strudel420

So... much... fail. :|

"The Conduit is a fun first-person shooter, but beware: it's also a straightforward one. Run and gun, enemy spawners, and little else." this is 8/10 gameplay according to IGN. that place has always been a joke for professional reviews.HoldThePhone

No kidding! Since when did fun count for anything?

Fun + excellent controls + good graphics = epic fail!

[QUOTE="strudel420"]

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]As far as having any sort of realism, the Wiimote is definitely superior to the mouse. Mouse/kb is great, but it basically has built in cheating.psychobrew

So... much... fail. :|

Pick one.

So The Conduit is a derivative run of the mill FPS that don't even have split-screen multiplayer,whose only saving grace is some good controls and some slightly better graphics than most Wii games. What is my incentive to buy an experience that i can get much better in 3 other consoles?

Dont own a Wii but i always kept an eye on this game, since I always thought Wii was lacking in the fps dept.. Seems like The Conduit is a solid game and surely Wii owners who happen to like FPS titles will surely enjoy the game..

The Wii has lower standards.