IGN's Lair review (4.9) - edited with link.

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#201 Eddie-Vedder
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I think it'll flop just as hard here, it´s a dragon game I don´t know, not my thing. Anyway could someone explain the review? It got ( 8 ), (7.5), ( 8 ), (4.5), (5.5) = 4.9 I´m not saying the game deserves more I just don't understand how that works.
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#202 Tnasty11
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[QUOTE="XL83"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

TCHBO.

This has crushed the Cows hopes and dreams that this game Lair would be one of the games listed that justifies paying $600 for a gaming console. This game is pathetic. This PS3 is pathetic. This is inexcusable.

CassiusGaius

Our pathetic machine is on overload right now, playing our latest slice of MP awesomeness, Warhawk. Enjoy BioShock, and when you finish it the next day, go back to playing Gears online. :D

Btw, what's with your sig listing a PS3. You spent $600 on something you hate. Self-owned?

Its fine to defend your system, but the PS3 is far from being the overlord now. Bioshock, rated 9.0 here and rated at 96%(4th best game of all time) was just released on the 360/PC. The 360/PC are the clear winners of August.

the wii owns august bioshock, MP3and warhawk own software sales
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#203 Ollivander
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Geez, I haven't uttered the word Flop in years but damn that's pretty bad. I couldn't even forsee the game being THAT bad.
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#204 OregonTrailing
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I think it'll flop just as hard here, it´s a dragon game I don´t know, not my thing. Anyway could someone explain the review? It got ( 8 ), (7.5), ( 8 ), (4.5), (5.5) = 4.9 I´m not saying the game deserves more I just don't understand how that works.Eddie-Vedder

It says "Not an average" by the catagories and thats the way it should be. Gameplay should defintely have more weight than, say, sound.

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#205 FF-resevil-halo
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lol I hyped it AA and admit floppage even if gamespot gave it a 10 seriously this game failed hahha oh well WARHAWK FTW YAY!
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#206 Koopaknight29
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Remember everyone, Lair can only be done on the PS3.Zero_Fate_

If that's all it can do, then they can keep it.

Where are all the trees and color? And is it all bridges and water? Jeez talk about lazy background artists.

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#207 Kayrod29
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I knew from the start that this game was made of epic fail... but did anyone listen? Nooooo.foxhound_fox

Wrong because I was calling this from the beginning too. I knew it, I just knew it.

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#208 karram
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ROFL
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#209 m_machine024
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I really shouldn't but.. I admit... I laughed a little. Maaaan, that's low.
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#210 amtentori
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I ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS said lair looked like garbage, yet fanboys flamed me. I was so right it is not funny. Wait, it is.

I always said the game looked bad, sure impressive from a technical standpoint, but the end product looked like a brown piece of...

And let's not start with the gameplay... it always looked: BORING

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#211 Koopaknight29
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[QUOTE="XL83"]

Maybe the next Wii game should feature 50 Cent killing historically accurate crab people with a chainsaw :lol:

Corvin

Theres nothing in that setence I didn't like.

If they can integrate real-time-weapons-changing and combo breakers into the waggle-mote, then I'm all for it. Even better if its a Haloz-killer.

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#212 Areola54
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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

owned

bu.. bu.. but it couldn't be done on teh 360 :cry:

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#213 m_machine024
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]I knew from the start that this game was made of epic fail... but did anyone listen? Nooooo.Kayrod29

Wrong because I was calling this from the beginning too. I knew it, I just knew it.

I didn't understand the hype neither. But I sure didn't expect that score. I know it's not GS but still...
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#214 amtentori
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See... boogie did score better than lair. and not only at gamepro.

And people say wii has crappy third party support.... at least it gets better scores than ps3 HYPED ALLEGEDLY GOTY CANDIDATE SYSTEM SELLING THE REASON TO OWN A PS3 games.... lol

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#215 Tnasty11
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See... boogie did score better than lair. and not only at gamepro.

And people say wii has crappy third party support.... at least it gets better scores than ps3 HYPED ALLEGEDLY GOTY CANDIDATE SYSTEM SELLING THE REASON TO OWN A PS3 games.... lol

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#216 JB730
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battle of exclusive ps3 and wii titles

this round: the ps3's highly touted GOTY candidate, lair vs......boogie

aaaaaand boogie wins

*chalks up another L for the PS3*

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#217 Areola54
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[QUOTE="amtentori"]

See... boogie did score better than lair. and not only at gamepro.

And people say wii has crappy third party support.... at least it gets better scores than ps3 HYPED ALLEGEDLY GOTY CANDIDATE SYSTEM SELLING THE REASON TO OWN A PS3 games.... lol

Tnasty11

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warhawk = half game. more like a XBL Arcade game.

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#218 CPM_basic
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ROFL this is one of the biggest most-awaited and most hyped ps3 titles.. hahahha... ROFL u cows get a real system like a Wii or 360. Invest in a pc while your at it.
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#219 amtentori
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[QUOTE="amtentori"]

See... boogie did score better than lair. and not only at gamepro.

And people say wii has crappy third party support.... at least it gets better scores than ps3 HYPED ALLEGEDLY GOTY CANDIDATE SYSTEM SELLING THE REASON TO OWN A PS3 games.... lol

Tnasty11

warhawk

im not sure, but isnt warhawk a sony title?....

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#220 Dreams-Visions
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wowsers.
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#221 Tnasty11
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battle of exclusive ps3 and wii titles

this round: the ps3's highly touted GOTY candidate, lair vs......boogie

aaaaaand boogie wins

*chalks up another L for the PS3*

JB730
but both titles flop
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#222 Dreams-Visions
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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

owned

bu.. bu.. but it couldn't be done on teh 360 :cry:

Areola54

hell...with a score like that, it SHOULDN'T be done on teh 360...forget "couldn't"! :cry:

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#223 Verge_6
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And to think, this game had been hyped as one of the key PS3 exclusives for 2007...sad.
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#224 goblaa
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It's amazing that the front page is still covered with topics like "lair is AAA!!! for sure" when this review is up.
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#225 Ospi
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Don't understand why people are happy when a game flops, you do realise this is only bad for gaming in general, when a developer spends so much time and resources on a product only for it to turn out like a piece of crap. More top end games the better for us all.
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#226 VACASCULIADAS
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:lol: and it was hyped AAA another flop for the cows.
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#227 konichiwa21
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Don't understand why people are happy when a game flops, you do realise this is only bad for gaming in general, when a developer spends so much time and resources on a product only for it to turn out like a piece of crap. More top end games the better for us all.Ospi

you must understand system wars soley consists of people that own the respective companies

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#228 GunSmith1_basic
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Don't understand why people are happy when a game flops, you do realise this is only bad for gaming in general, when a developer spends so much time and resources on a product only for it to turn out like a piece of crap. More top end games the better for us all.Ospi
I must admit there is a sick pleasure in reading a terrible review and watching supporters of a rival system twisting in the wind. Man the lems must be happy, as this distracted from terrible blue dragon
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#229 Forza_2
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It's amazing that the front page is still covered with topics like "lair is AAA!!! for sure" when this review is up.goblaa

Is that a joke ? Because those are all old threads.

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#230 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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Oh barf. Damn Factor 5, what happened? :(

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#231 hashyboy
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lair, haha, being a cow i know that game would be trash
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#232 Afrikanxl
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there are sure alot of sh!t talking for a game that has not been reviewed by Gamespot...... alot and I mean alot of you folks better pray that this game doesn't get a 7.5 or 8.0......lol

I have played this game and it is not a game that should receive an overall score of 4.9.... even the reviewer seems childish..... speaking about Lucifer.... WTF.....lol

seems there are alot of bitter "owned" Warhawk bashers in this thread.......

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#233 manningbowl135
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Wow. This may turn out to be the biggest flop so far this gen. AA hype=8.0. Let's see how much below that it gets.
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#234 Nysuki
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there are sure alot of sh!t talking for a game that has not been reviewed by Gamespot...... alot and I mean alot of you folks better pray that this game doesn't get a 7.5 or 8.0......lolAfrikanxl

Actually, you'd better pray that GameSpot doesn't do that.

When considering that Lair has been getting 4's, 5's, and 6's, I guanrentee that GameSpot with be the laughing stock of the gaming community if they turn around and give it an 8.0 and above. Sure, you'll have your little SW bet won (Or skewed to AA at least), but it'll be a pretty hollow victory if its reputation goes even further under.

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#236 Zeliard9
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I just think it's amusing how since the IGN review came out, posts in both the stickied Warhawk and Blue Dragon threads have slowed to a halt.
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#237 Wanderer5
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I wonder what has happened to Factor 5? RS II and III were great game. Now their new game Lair isn't doing good.
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#238 shadowrun69
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Wow, poor cows. This is turning out to be a bigger flop than Red Steel.
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#240 ironcreed
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Ok, I just beat the 'Crossing at Dawn' level that the guy pretty much based his entire review on, and he over exaggerated how difficult it was by a long shot. He clearly did not learn how to brake/hover the dragon properly, and tilt the six axis to turn around so that you do not have to fly out to sea and turn around to come in for another wave.

The first portion of the level has you rescuing a couple of robed Assylian individuals from an incoming ice dragon assult....super easy. Pick up one at a time, follow the directional arrow down the bridge to a plarform where you automatically drop off the 1st robed Assylian, rinse and repeat 1 more time.

Now you have to fly along the bridge (braking/hovering and tiliting where necessary in order to look) and find the calvary with the blue flags (the Mokai) where you simply land, romp, chew, and breathe fire with the square, circle, and tringle buttons until you have killed a certain number of troops. Very fast, and easy portion of the level.

Now here is the part that Mr. review guy had a fit with apparently. A few dragons come in and drop off 'Toros' (giant Taurus the bull looking creatures.) Simply stay within the length of the bridge, by braking and tilting at the same time where need be, fly down the bridge until you see the Toros mowing through your ground troops in red, fly towards one at a time, lock on and repeatedly press the square button to roast him alive. Rinse and repeat for remaining Toros....cake.

Now we have to knock a few defender dragons out of the sky, or roast them to death (takes longer) Fly up and down the bridge until you meet one head on, lock on and fireball them to death (takes a bit) or ram him out of the sky. Repeat a few times. Not too difficult.

Now we have the armored rhinos that you cannot kill with fire. Use the same flying procedure as outlined with the Toros, lock on, push triangle when prompted to fly in, shake the controller up and down once you have latched onto the Rhino, press triangle again. Rinse and repeat a few more times....easy.

Sorry for the diatribe, but I just wanted you guys to know that he completely exaggerated the difficulty of this level, and even the controls for that matter. If you know how and when to break/hover, and tilt at the same time in order to get lined up where you want to go, flying is MUCH easier and more fun than the mess he described. Apparently he was just mad because he sucked at playing the game, so he slapped a 4.9 on the game because he got aced by the easy fifth level, lol. I sure had no problem with it.

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#241 VACASCULIADAS
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4.9 :lol: keep the good work with the exclusive cows.
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#242 dlind70
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Lolololololololol *sheds tear for future dragon fighters*
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#243 waynehead895
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4.9??

Grrrrrrrrrr. That is just deplorable.

I don't even care about getting "owned" by lemmings or shiip, I'm just sad that a game that I thought had so much potential could turn out to be such a huge stinking pile of crap. I hate you Factor 5. I really wanted to play this, and felt like I might just say screw the reviews and buy it anyway, but 4.9 is a big red sign saying STAY THE **** AWAY FROM ME!

XL83

Post of the thread. Seriously. As much As I laughed at reading through this thread, the laugh from this quote was the loudest.

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#244 Art_424
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A dragon size flop for the cows, and to think this was going to be a AAA game, a game that the 360 wasnt capable of doing!:cry: (You can keep it cows, wellkeep our Blue dragon).:lol:

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#245 Halo2_Norad
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Wow. I knew Lair was going to be bad ever since I read the very first hands on previews but damn. A 4.9, that is very bad. If GS scores it something similar to that, that would no doubt be the biggest FLOP in SW history. Bigger than Zelda TP, Fable, or Killzone 1.
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#246 VACASCULIADAS
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Have fun with the flying turds game.
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#247 Eltroz
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This really shows how bad PS3 is doing as far as games. I mean look how nuts cows are going over a AA score in warhawk. The PS3 has fallen into such a sad state. Lair was hyped as a huge system seller at first too. I remember so many threads saying how much better then gears Lair is. Now look a 4.9. heavenly sword does not look to great either. How does it feel paying that $600 now :lol:
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#248 Eltroz
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That is dissapointing. A game flopping should not be applauded. A company releasing a dud is not good for gamers.

I think we should hold a minutes silence for the game that could have been...

poptart
Only gamers it hurt was the cows. Does not effect Lemmings or sheep at all. For example lemmings just got a AAA game so those gamers are doing just fine.
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#249 Seckzy_Gamer
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Sony should of put the motion tilt in the console instead of the controllers:o
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#250 delta_leader_4
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How does it feel paying that $600 now :lol:Eltroz

Im loving every minute of it.