IGN's Top 10 Gaming Disappointments of 2010

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"which consists of essentially moving in a straight line for the first twenty hours, repeatedly hitting X."

And that's when I stopped taking the list seriously.

DJ-Lafleur

How is that not an accurate statement?

There are plenty of times you can take an alternate paths to grab a treasure and/or fight more monsters, or where you jump from one spot to another, pr where the map becomes more circular. There's more than just walking straight. FFXIII is one of the more linear games, but it's not THAT linear.

And only pressing X in battle would get you killed in many battles. You'll need to take advantage of the paardigm shift if you want to beat an enemy, or atleast do so in as an efficient a way as possible.

The thing is: you don't really have to really start paradigm shifting in any meaningful way until about 20 hours in.

And while there are alternative paths, the areas are still much more linear than people are used to. It managed to top FFX in that department and that'sno easy feat.

So, yes, they were exaggerating, but their statement encapsulates how many people felt about FFXIII's first third.

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IGN:Gt5 best racing sim...

IGN: Gt5 number 2 biggest dissapointment us smh gt5 you dissapointed us

Aboogie5

Way to take both the review and the list out of context. :roll: But that's the System Wars way.

They said it was an excellent racing sim, but a sloppy unpolished game, which is a shock since GT is usually so polished. What is hard to understand?

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And what possible motivation could they have for peddling flame bait?

GreySeal9

Ok, that's true, but their reputation would also take a hit as well, so its a double-edged sword.

Really, though, what they said wasn't flame bait. People are just mad at the choice, which makes perfect sense according to IGN's review.

People have to remember that this is IGN's greatest dissapointments. Not everybody has to agree.

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"which consists of essentially moving in a straight line for the first twenty hours, repeatedly hitting X."

And that's when I stopped taking the list seriously.

DJ-Lafleur

How is that not an accurate statement?

There are plenty of times you can take an alternate paths to grab a treasure and/or fight more monsters, or where you jump from one spot to another, pr where the map becomes more circular. There's more than just walking straight. FFXIII is one of the more linear games, but it's not THAT linear.

And only pressing X in battle would get you killed in many battles. You'll need to take advantage of the paardigm shift if you want to beat an enemy, or atleast do so in as an efficient a way as possible.

Yea pretty much. Which is why I liked the paardigm shift it made the combat more interactive for me.

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[QUOTE="savebattery"] The same motivation every other site has. Controversy -> Page views -> Ad revenue Also Controversy -> Page views-> flame wars in comments section-> new members to partake in said flame warssavebattery

Ok, that's true, but their reputation would also take a hit as well, so its a double-edged sword.

Really, though, what they said wasn't flame bait. People are just mad at the choice, which makes perfect sense according to IGN's review.

People have to remember that this is IGN's greatest dissapointments. Not everybody has to agree.

This is not entirely true.

GameSpot was damage controlling like CRAZY when Gerstman got fired. If they didn't care about their reputation, why would they even bother?

And can you explain how this article is in any way shape or form flamebait? And can you give me an example of other flame bait peddled by IGN?

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How is that not an accurate statement?

GreySeal9

There are plenty of times you can take an alternate paths to grab a treasure and/or fight more monsters, or where you jump from one spot to another, pr where the map becomes more circular. There's more than just walking straight. FFXIII is one of the more linear games, but it's not THAT linear.

And only pressing X in battle would get you killed in many battles. You'll need to take advantage of the paardigm shift if you want to beat an enemy, or atleast do so in as an efficient a way as possible.

The thing is: you don't really have to really start paradigm shifting in any meaningful way until about 20 hours in.

And while there are alternative paths, the areas are still much more linear than people are used to. It managed to top FFX in that department and that'sno easy feat.

So, yes, they were exaggerating, but their statement encapsulates how many people felt about FFXIII's first third.

What do you mean by "meaningful way" exactly? I nwould think any time you use a paradigm shift would have some meaning to it.

Other than those summon temples in FFX, FFFX really wasn't any less linear than FFXIII. If anything FFXIII may have felt less linear had it not included the map in the corner to show where you need to head.

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[QUOTE="savebattery"] The same motivation every other site has. Controversy -> Page views -> Ad revenue Also Controversy -> Page views-> flame wars in comments section-> new members to partake in said flame warsGreySeal9

Yup, this. ^

Even though I agree with FFXIII being up their, it is sure to run the same effect as well.

And how is their GT5 section of the article flame bait?

Oh, I dunno, taking an excellent game that just so happens to be an exclusive title and one of the biggest to release this year and giving it the #2 SPOT ON THE TOP 10 DISAPPOINTMENTS OF 2010...

I think its pretty self explanatory. It would be the same as if they had put SMG2, or Reach in that spot. It would cause tons of flaming, and rightfully so.

Come to think of it, imagine if SC2 had been in that spot. Same situation. An excellent game by all means, but it sure took long enough. Just like GT5.

Its just another way to get hits and generate discussion. GT5 just happens to be the big thing right now, thus a great target.

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[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

There are plenty of times you can take an alternate paths to grab a treasure and/or fight more monsters, or where you jump from one spot to another, pr where the map becomes more circular. There's more than just walking straight. FFXIII is one of the more linear games, but it's not THAT linear.

And only pressing X in battle would get you killed in many battles. You'll need to take advantage of the paardigm shift if you want to beat an enemy, or atleast do so in as an efficient a way as possible.

DJ-Lafleur

The thing is: you don't really have to really start paradigm shifting in any meaningful way until about 20 hours in.

And while there are alternative paths, the areas are still much more linear than people are used to. It managed to top FFX in that department and that'sno easy feat.

So, yes, they were exaggerating, but their statement encapsulates how many people felt about FFXIII's first third.

What do you mean by "meaningful way" exactly? I nwould think any time you use a paradigm shift would have some meaning to it.

Other than those summon temples in FFX, FFFX really wasn't any less linear than FFXIII. If anything FFXIII may have felt less linear had it not included the map in the corner to show where you need to head.

I mean that the paradigm shifts that had to be performed before the 20 hour mark were not really difficult or mentally taxing. They were pretty obvious and became second nature before long.

After the 20 hour mark, you have to start putting a heck of alot more thought into the paradigm shifts.

Oh, I dunno, taking an excellent game that just so happens to be an exclusive title and one of the biggest to release this year and giving it the #2 SPOT ON THE TOP 10 DISAPPOINTMENTS OF 2010...

I think its pretty self explanatory. It would be the same as if they had put SMG2, or Reach in that spot. It would cause tons of flaming, and rightfully so.

sandbox3d

RIGHT after the game was released.. lol

If they were waiting for the end of the year, they would have waited until the year was actually closer to being finished.

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Yup, this. ^

Even though I agree with FFXIII being up their, it is sure to run the same effect as well.

sandbox3d

And how is their GT5 section of the article flame bait?

Oh, I dunno, taking an excellent game that just so happens to be an exclusive title and one of the biggest to release this year and giving it the #2 SPOT ON THE TOP 10 DISAPPOINTMENTS OF 2010...

I think its pretty self explanatory. It would be the same as if they had put SMG2, or Reach in that spot. It would cause tons of flaming, and rightfully so.

They don't believe it is an excellent game or else they wouldn't have given it an 8.5? :shock: They even called it less than excellent.Why should their articles be tailored to your opinions? Their articles are based on their opinions.

SMG2? Are you serious? SMG2 exceeded hype and is the third highest rated game of all time. Gran Turismo, by comparison, is not AAA on either Metacritic or GameRankings?

Seriously, you haven't given a single solid reason that the article was flamebait. You merely disagree.

Come to think of it, imagine if SC2 had been in that spot. Same situation. An excellent game by all means, but it sure took long enough. Just like GT5.

Its just another way to get hits and generate discussion. GT5 just happens to be the big thing right now, thus a great target.

sandbox3d

Like I said: IGN does not believe that GT5 is an excellent game.

Your own opinion on the game is irrelevant to the matter of the article being flamebait.

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And how is their GT5 section of the article flame bait?

GreySeal9

Oh, I dunno, taking an excellent game that just so happens to be an exclusive title and one of the biggest to release this year and giving it the #2 SPOT ON THE TOP 10 DISAPPOINTMENTS OF 2010...

I think its pretty self explanatory. It would be the same as if they had put SMG2, or Reach in that spot. It would cause tons of flaming, and rightfully so.

They don't believe it is an excellent game or else they wouldn't have given it an 8.5? :shock: They even called it less than excellent.Why should their articles be tailored to your opinions? Their articles are based on their opinions.

SMG2? Are you serious? SMG2 exceeded hype and is the third highest rated game of all time. Gran Turismo, by comparison, is not AAA on either Metacritic or GameRankings?

Seriously, you haven't given a single solid reason that the article was flamebait. You merely disagree.

Hey, SMG2 is by far my favorite game this gen. But just like my opinion on the game, all those reviews are also opinions that put it at such a highly rated spot. Its still by no means fact.

If IGN had considered SMG2 to be 2nd biggest disappointment this year, then would you still agree with the article? Probably not. You would likely agree that it is flamebat.

And here is the main point. Even if IGN does not find the game excellent, plenty of gamers do. That is how the flame bait works. They know that. Anybody that knows what these sites do for hits knows it as well. This isnt some grand mystery, or conspiracy.

And I love how everyone is throwing out metascores for this game when the dust is far from settled. Its sitting just below AAA right now. If 1.2 points out of 100 is truly what takes a game from being excellent to the realm of mega disappointment then excuse my ignorance.:lol:

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Oh, I dunno, taking an excellent game that just so happens to be an exclusive title and one of the biggest to release this year and giving it the #2 SPOT ON THE TOP 10 DISAPPOINTMENTS OF 2010...

I think its pretty self explanatory. It would be the same as if they had put SMG2, or Reach in that spot. It would cause tons of flaming, and rightfully so.

sandbox3d

They don't believe it is an excellent game or else they wouldn't have given it an 8.5? :shock: They even called it less than excellent.Why should their articles be tailored to your opinions? Their articles are based on their opinions.

SMG2? Are you serious? SMG2 exceeded hype and is the third highest rated game of all time. Gran Turismo, by comparison, is not AAA on either Metacritic or GameRankings?

Seriously, you haven't given a single solid reason that the article was flamebait. You merely disagree.

Hey, SMG2 is by far my favorite game this gen. But just like my opinion on the game all those reviews are also opinions that put it at such a highly rated spot. Its still by no means fact.

If IGN had considered SMG2 to be 2nd biggest disappointment this year, then would you still agree with the article? Probably not. You would likely agree that it is flamebat.

And here is the main point. Even if IGN does not find the game excellent, plenty of gamers do. That is how the flame bait works. And I love how everyone is throwing out metascores for the this game when the dust is far from settled. Its sitting just below AAA right now. If 1.2 points out of 100 is truly what takes a game from being excellent to the realm of mega disappointment then excuse my ignorance.:lol:

Jesus Christ.

Tons of games have lots of fans. That doesn't mean that IGN must account for these people when they lay out their list of dissapointments. If they had to keep games off their list simply because they have fans, then their intellectual freedom would be compromised.

I would have to read IGN's reasoning for saying that SMG2 is the number one dissapointment before calling flame bait. But that's an irrelevant hypothetical because IGN gave SMG2 a perfect 10 and called it gaming perfection. Whereas they thought GT5 was less than excellent,and sloppy and unpolished for all its strengths in the driving department. Compared to the hype, they felt the game underdelivered big time. That's all there is to it.

And really, SMG2/=/GT5. So I don't know why you think they are comparable. They represent far different situations.

It's plain to see that you think this is flame bait simply because youthink the game is excellent. Not because there's actual flame baitish language in the article.

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They don't believe it is an excellent game or else they wouldn't have given it an 8.5? :shock: They even called it less than excellent.Why should their articles be tailored to your opinions? Their articles are based on their opinions.

SMG2? Are you serious? SMG2 exceeded hype and is the third highest rated game of all time. Gran Turismo, by comparison, is not AAA on either Metacritic or GameRankings?

Seriously, you haven't given a single solid reason that the article was flamebait. You merely disagree.

GreySeal9

Hey, SMG2 is by far my favorite game this gen. But just like my opinion on the game all those reviews are also opinions that put it at such a highly rated spot. Its still by no means fact.

If IGN had considered SMG2 to be 2nd biggest disappointment this year, then would you still agree with the article? Probably not. You would likely agree that it is flamebat.

And here is the main point. Even if IGN does not find the game excellent, plenty of gamers do. That is how the flame bait works. And I love how everyone is throwing out metascores for the this game when the dust is far from settled. Its sitting just below AAA right now. If 1.2 points out of 100 is truly what takes a game from being excellent to the realm of mega disappointment then excuse my ignorance.:lol:

Jesus Christ.

Tons of games have lots of fans. That doesn't mean that IGN must account for these people when they lay out their list of dissapointments. If they had to keep games off their list simply because they have fans, then their intellectual freedom would be compromised.

I wouldhave to read IGN's reasoning for saying that SMG2 is the number one dissapointment before calling flame bait. But that's an irrelevant hypothetical because IGN gave SMG2 a perfect 10 and called it gaming perfection. Whereas they thought GT5 was less than excellent,and sloppy and unpolished for all its strengths in the driving department. Compared to the hype, they felt the game underdelivered big time. That's all there is to it.

No need to get upset, bud. :P

I'm having just as much trouble agreeing your point of view as you are agreeing mine (among others in this topic that agree).

To boil it all down. They took a game that so far is considered at least good, if not great by gamers and reviewers alike. Certainly not the 2nd biggest disapointment of 2010, if even a disapointment at all. Even their review of the game does not indicate that this is their opinion. Its quite obviously a means of generating hits. Do you not find it odd that this happens the day after the games release? :lol:

Most people will agree that the industry has seen much bigger disapoinments this year.

But anyways we are just shooting the same points back and forth and I'm fine with agreeing to disagree. Its not really worth the effort to argue over something so pointless and I do understand your point of view on this.

Off topic, but how are you liking DKCR? I'm loving it so far. Its much better than what I was expecting. Between GT5 and DKCR its tough finding time to sleep.:lol:

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Hey, SMG2 is by far my favorite game this gen. But just like my opinion on the game all those reviews are also opinions that put it at such a highly rated spot. Its still by no means fact.

If IGN had considered SMG2 to be 2nd biggest disappointment this year, then would you still agree with the article? Probably not. You would likely agree that it is flamebat.

And here is the main point. Even if IGN does not find the game excellent, plenty of gamers do. That is how the flame bait works. And I love how everyone is throwing out metascores for the this game when the dust is far from settled. Its sitting just below AAA right now. If 1.2 points out of 100 is truly what takes a game from being excellent to the realm of mega disappointment then excuse my ignorance.:lol:

sandbox3d

Jesus Christ.

Tons of games have lots of fans. That doesn't mean that IGN must account for these people when they lay out their list of dissapointments. If they had to keep games off their list simply because they have fans, then their intellectual freedom would be compromised.

I wouldhave to read IGN's reasoning for saying that SMG2 is the number one dissapointment before calling flame bait. But that's an irrelevant hypothetical because IGN gave SMG2 a perfect 10 and called it gaming perfection. Whereas they thought GT5 was less than excellent,and sloppy and unpolished for all its strengths in the driving department. Compared to the hype, they felt the game underdelivered big time. That's all there is to it.

No need to get upset, bud. :P

I'm having just as much trouble agreeing your point of view as you are agreeing mine (among others in this topic that agree).

To boil it all down. They took a game that so far is considered at least good, if not great by gamers and reviewers alike. Certainly not the 2nd biggest disapointment of 2010, if even a disapointment at all. Even their review of the game does not indicate that this is their opinion. Its quite obviously a means of generating hits. Do you not find it odd that this happens the day after the games release? :lol:

Most people will agree that the industry has seen much bigger disapoinments this year.

But anyways we are just shooting the same points back and forth and I'm fine with agreeing to disagree. Its not really worth the effort to argue over something so pointless and I do understand your point of view on this.

Off topic, but how are you liking DKCR? I'm loving it so far. Its much better than what I was expecting. Between GT5 and DKCR its tough finding time to sleep.:lol:

I think DKCR is just as good as the originals. I went intoit expecting a good, but slight lesser version of DKC and was pleasently surprised by how excellent the level designs (save for a couple in the first world) are.

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Jesus Christ.

Tons of games have lots of fans. That doesn't mean that IGN must account for these people when they lay out their list of dissapointments. If they had to keep games off their list simply because they have fans, then their intellectual freedom would be compromised.

I wouldhave to read IGN's reasoning for saying that SMG2 is the number one dissapointment before calling flame bait. But that's an irrelevant hypothetical because IGN gave SMG2 a perfect 10 and called it gaming perfection. Whereas they thought GT5 was less than excellent,and sloppy and unpolished for all its strengths in the driving department. Compared to the hype, they felt the game underdelivered big time. That's all there is to it.

GreySeal9

No need to get upset, bud. :P

I'm having just as much trouble agreeing your point of view as you are agreeing mine (among others in this topic that agree).

To boil it all down. They took a game that so far is considered at least good, if not great by gamers and reviewers alike. Certainly not the 2nd biggest disapointment of 2010, if even a disapointment at all. Even their review of the game does not indicate that this is their opinion. Its quite obviously a means of generating hits. Do you not find it odd that this happens the day after the games release? :lol:

Most people will agree that the industry has seen much bigger disapoinments this year.

But anyways we are just shooting the same points back and forth and I'm fine with agreeing to disagree. Its not really worth the effort to argue over something so pointless and I do understand your point of view on this.

Off topic, but how are you liking DKCR? I'm loving it so far. Its much better than what I was expecting. Between GT5 and DKCR its tough finding time to sleep.:lol:

I think DKCR is just as good as the originals. I went intoit expecting a good, but slight lesser version of DKC and was pleasently surprised by how excellent the level designs (save for a couple in the first world) are.

Yeah I'm actually enjoying it a good deal more than I did the originals. I agree the level design is great, but even platfroming mechanics and boss fights have stepped up significantly imo. I'm really just glad to see platformers coming back so strong this gen.

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[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

No need to get upset, bud. :P

I'm having just as much trouble agreeing your point of view as you are agreeing mine (among others in this topic that agree).

To boil it all down. They took a game that so far is considered at least good, if not great by gamers and reviewers alike. Certainly not the 2nd biggest disapointment of 2010, if even a disapointment at all. Even their review of the game does not indicate that this is their opinion. Its quite obviously a means of generating hits. Do you not find it odd that this happens the day after the games release? :lol:

Most people will agree that the industry has seen much bigger disapoinments this year.

But anyways we are just shooting the same points back and forth and I'm fine with agreeing to disagree. Its not really worth the effort to argue over something so pointless and I do understand your point of view on this.

Off topic, but how are you liking DKCR? I'm loving it so far. Its much better than what I was expecting. Between GT5 and DKCR its tough finding time to sleep.:lol:

sandbox3d

I think DKCR is just as good as the originals. I went intoit expecting a good, but slight lesser version of DKC and was pleasently surprised by how excellent the level designs (save for a couple in the first world) are.

Yeah I'm actually enjoying it a good deal more than I did the originals. I agree the level design is great, but even platfroming mechanics and boss fights have stepped up significantly imo. I'm really just glad to see platformers coming back so strong this gen.

Yeah, the platformer Renaissance has pleased me as well. It has made me remember how much I love Nintendo and got me to become a Wii owner. All the same, I do realize that very strong platformers are coming out on other systems as well.

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I think DKCR is just as good as the originals. I went intoit expecting a good, but slight lesser version of DKC and was pleasently surprised by how excellent the level designs (save for a couple in the first world) are.

GreySeal9

Yeah I'm actually enjoying it a good deal more than I did the originals. I agree the level design is great, but even platfroming mechanics and boss fights have stepped up significantly imo. I'm really just glad to see platformers coming back so strong this gen.

Yeah, the platformer Renaissance has pleased me as well. It has made me remember how much I love Nintendo and got me to become a Wii owner. All the same, I do realize that very strong platformers are coming out on other systems as well.

True. I got Super Meat Boy on 360 a couple of weeks back and its probably my favorite 360 game this year. Definitely worth checking out if you haven't already.

I can think of some other games that should be on that list...

Also notice how Nintendo is completely irrelevant to this top 10. wiifan001

[QUOTE="wiifan001"]Also notice how Nintendo is completely irrelevant to this top 10. UCF_Knight

:lol:He definitely asked for it.

Come to think of it though, I dont remember any serious blunders on Nintendos part this year. They did pretty damn good.

As far as GT5 goes, it just seems they should have given themselves more time with it before they rushed the review out.

:lol: GT5 is already up there and its only been out for 3 days.Sp4rtan_3

Meh IGN with another fail list seriously.

Wow i disagree with their opinion, how can the ps move be a disappointment when it was exactly like the wii remote? wouldnt the wii remote be disappoitning as well, they shouldve known? Kinect i can understand if they had such high standards, i think it was fun.

I thought FF13 was one of the best games I played doing the Summer, and this is coming from a guy that played FF5, FF7, FF9, FF10, and FF12. IMO, I thought the game was fantastic.

And what do we learnfrom numbers 1 & 2? Don't put graphics first. I'm looking at you Japan.

And what do we learnfrom numbers 1 & 2? Don't put graphics first. I'm looking at you Japan.

PatchMaster

You are looking at the wrong one (GT5) its graphics is not that great but its gameplay is amazing.

And what do we learnfrom numbers 1 & 2? Don't put graphics first. I'm looking at you Japan.

PatchMaster

I'll give you FFXIII, but GT5? Graphics are hardly the strong point of the game. I actually expected better looking visuals than the end product. If Polyphony went overboard with anything in GT5 it was content. The gameplay and content is definitely there. No need to make baseless statements as if graphics were priority #1.

And why Japan? Developers all over the world are putting out crappy games with nice visuals. I could list a ton of great games from Japan that did not put visuals first. I dont think you thought that one through too well.:P

And what do we learnfrom numbers 1 & 2? Don't put graphics first. I'm looking at you Japan.

PatchMaster

Yea cause we all know its a proven fact that the gameplay for FF13 is awful.....:|

I don't know why your guys say GT5 shouldn't be there... they probably played it by now, so they probably know what they are talking about.

GreenGoblin2099

the reviewer said you can't upgrade brakes. problem is, you can.i wonder if he spent at least 5 hours on the game?

reviewers should finish a game before reviewing it. does that mean he finished GT5 without ever upgrading his brakes? that's full of bs. he obviously played for a couple of hours then wrote the review. pretty pathetic.

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And what do we learnfrom numbers 1 & 2? Don't put graphics first. I'm looking at you Japan.

sandbox3d

I'll give you FFXIII, but GT5? Graphics are hardly the strong point of the game. I actually expected better looking visuals than the end product. If Polyphony went overboard with anything in GT5 it was content. The gameplay and content is definitely there. No need to make baseless statements as if graphics were priority #1.

And why Japan? Developers all over the world are putting out crappy games with nice visuals. I could list a ton of great games from Japan that did not put visuals first. I dont think you thought that one through too well.:P

Actually what dragged GT5 is the weird design choices somehow confusing menu and the leveling system which requires a lot of grinding before you get to the great parts of the game.

Kinect is a bigger disappointment than Move, but they are both disappointments.

Suck it motion gaming. Also, lol @ Number 1

skinny_man_69

I thought Fable 3 was fine. Sure it wasn't perfect, but I wasn't disappointed. The game is still a blast to play. As for Kinect, I was already aware that only a few games were worth owning. There was a lot of crap games (Uncaged Fighter, Sonic Riders, etc..) that weren't even worth demoing. The games i did get and play, i was pretty happy with. Like they said in their notation, Kinect still has a lot of potential. Everything else was pretty much spot on. Move is just a Wii wannabe. Making 10 already released games MOVE compatible doesn't increase it's library. Just about all those games I would rather use a controller, then use MOVE. I also agree that FF XIV should have been on the list. definitely before Fable 3.

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I don't know why your guys say GT5 shouldn't be there... they probably played it by now, so they probably know what they are talking about.

rawr89

the reviewer said you can't upgrade brakes. problem is, you can.i wonder if he spent at least 5 hours on the game?

reviewers should finish a game before reviewing it. does that mean he finished GT5 without ever upgrading his brakes? that's full of bs. he obviously played for a couple of hours then wrote the review. pretty pathetic.

Actually the whole review doesn't sum up its just seems IGN want the people to stop calling them 9gn by giving some of the big games a scores below 9 (CoD BO, GT5)

gt5 shouldnt be there. IGN and many others dont know how those cars handle in real life so they shouldnt talk crap about it. they dont understand ultra realistic handling

bigM10231

FFXIV should've been on that list. But I agree with most of the list.

ramealdabest

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And what do we learnfrom numbers 1 & 2? Don't put graphics first. I'm looking at you Japan.

I'll give you FFXIII, but GT5? Graphics are hardly the strong point of the game. I actually expected better looking visuals than the end product. If Polyphony went overboard with anything in GT5 it was content. The gameplay and content is definitely there. No need to make baseless statements as if graphics were priority #1.

And why Japan? Developers all over the world are putting out crappy games with nice visuals. I could list a ton of great games from Japan that did not put visuals first. I dont think you thought that one through too well.:P

Actually what dragged GT5 is the weird design choices somehow confusing menu and the leveling system which requires a lot of grinding before you get to the great parts of the game.

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gt5 shouldnt be there. IGN and many others dont know how those cars handle in real life so they shouldnt talk crap about it. they dont understand ultra realistic handling

blackace

Well since you didn't play the high level races so you know nothing about the A.I actually its very great and way better than all the old GT games.

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I'll give you FFXIII, but GT5? Graphics are hardly the strong point of the game. I actually expected better looking visuals than the end product. If Polyphony went overboard with anything in GT5 it was content. The gameplay and content is definitely there. No need to make baseless statements as if graphics were priority #1.

And why Japan? Developers all over the world are putting out crappy games with nice visuals. I could list a ton of great games from Japan that did not put visuals first. I dont think you thought that one through too well.:P

gaming25

Actually what dragged GT5 is the weird design choices somehow confusing menu and the leveling system which requires a lot of grinding before you get to the great parts of the game.

I'm talking about the damage which you can only get at higher levels.

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I'll give you FFXIII, but GT5? Graphics are hardly the strong point of the game. I actually expected better looking visuals than the end product. If Polyphony went overboard with anything in GT5 it was content. The gameplay and content is definitely there. No need to make baseless statements as if graphics were priority #1.

And why Japan? Developers all over the world are putting out crappy games with nice visuals. I could list a ton of great games from Japan that did not put visuals first. I dont think you thought that one through too well.:P

gaming25

Actually what dragged GT5 is the weird design choices somehow confusing menu and the leveling system which requires a lot of grinding before you get to the great parts of the game.

Yeah thats how I feel too. And I have no idea whats wrong with the menus. Obviously I'm the odd man out because I keep seeing this complaint, but really what is wrong or confusing about them? :?

Serious question here.

Yeah thats how I feel too. And I have no idea whats wrong with the menus. Obviously I'm the odd man out because I keep seeing this complaint, but really what is wrong or confusing about them? :?

Serious question here.

sandbox3d

apparently the IGN guy can navigate his facebook yet when confronted with the GT5 menu he became stunned of teh complexity. :roll: GT5 has probably the most straightforward menus. it has descriptions, pics, etc.

@9 Move: I disagree, Sports Champions was fantastic and showed pretty good what the Move can do

I do agreee with most what the article stated, but wheres FF14 and Alpha Protocoll on that list? Both were increbible big disappointments ... at least for me. I also disagree with the mention of Dante's Inferno, it's one of the best games this gen IMO

Where's Metroid Other M that game sucked, and the Force Unleashed 2.